[00:00:05.19] Ok thanks Scott that was amazing That's a great [00:00:09.15] [00:00:09.15] introduction that I have to live up to and. [00:00:12.05] [00:00:13.17] If anyone has any microphones they want to give me I have a couple more pockets so. [00:00:18.10] [00:00:21.04] That is. [00:00:21.16] [00:00:26.18] Ok so yeah like Scott said it was perfectly put so [00:00:30.23] [00:00:30.23] I don't I won't repeat repeat it but you know in a way what I look at this is [00:00:35.12] [00:00:35.12] a kind of aspirational lecture so you know when schools call you to give a lecture [00:00:39.20] [00:00:39.20] they often ask for the title and I you know I don't want to call it recent work. [00:00:44.03] [00:00:45.05] Which is the best fall title but [00:00:47.14] [00:00:47.14] the thing that's coming out about climate change and what's going on. [00:00:50.15] [00:00:52.13] Generally. [00:00:53.10] [00:00:54.12] It's it's it is a moment to rethink everything and [00:00:57.19] [00:00:57.19] you know the Anthropocene is the is the term for the. [00:01:01.07] [00:01:02.08] World is in whereby human impact is actually creating a kind of [00:01:08.07] [00:01:08.07] geological condition that man's impact on the planet is big enough to [00:01:14.05] [00:01:14.05] you know be you know be up there with the players to sr one of those other scenes. [00:01:19.16] [00:01:21.00] So so that I so that's why I called it this but it's very. [00:01:24.11] [00:01:25.16] Heady So it's also about the future practice and [00:01:29.17] [00:01:29.17] you know I don't want to be the kind of guy that stands up here and tells you you [00:01:33.05] [00:01:33.05] know this is the future practice so I have a 3rd title for the lecture which is. [00:01:38.06] [00:01:39.06] The future practice for work I see at least so it's really just about us and [00:01:44.02] [00:01:44.02] what we're thinking through these days as we try to invent reinvent ourselves so [00:01:49.19] [00:01:49.19] I thought through you know a number of things that are related to the future of [00:01:54.09] [00:01:54.09] our practice where things that we think about as we work in as we design but [00:01:59.23] [00:01:59.23] also things that I think point in a way point the way towards this towards [00:02:04.21] [00:02:04.21] this future so I have 5 different things that we're thinking about these days [00:02:10.11] [00:02:10.11] scale is something that we've always thought about and it's not just about [00:02:14.14] [00:02:14.14] knowing scale or working different at different scales but really for [00:02:19.19] [00:02:19.19] me it's the idea that what happens at one scale let's say the level of detail or [00:02:24.16] [00:02:24.16] the level of a small project resonates in some way with. [00:02:28.14] [00:02:29.18] A project of the scale of the city that we need to be looking at issues [00:02:34.22] [00:02:34.22] always through this kind of both ends of the binocular if you will you know so [00:02:39.21] [00:02:39.21] that we're kind of you know looking at the big picture at the same time that we're [00:02:43.09] [00:02:43.09] looking at the small picture of the Dog House for [00:02:45.09] [00:02:45.09] us as always it was our 1st project you know a dog house pretty much a throw away [00:02:50.04] [00:02:50.04] project but from that 1st you know when we designed the dog house it was. [00:02:54.04] [00:02:54.04] It was for the urban we decided to make it for the urban dog so [00:02:57.04] [00:02:57.04] we created a dog house with a treadmill and an odor machine and [00:03:01.07] [00:03:01.07] 3 video screens so that the urban dog in its miserable life [00:03:04.22] [00:03:04.22] cooped up in the apartment would actually be able to experience. [00:03:08.02] [00:03:09.08] Nature and the outdoors through video but [00:03:12.16] [00:03:12.16] then we learn that dogs don't see in color. [00:03:14.16] [00:03:16.13] But in a way it's that idea so you know I did this for me this is a kids' book that [00:03:21.12] [00:03:21.12] I had when I was a kid you know it's the Christmas tree was too big so the top [00:03:26.15] [00:03:26.15] the kid got cut off and then the maid had that top but the top was too big so [00:03:30.18] [00:03:30.18] she cut off the top and then a bear found it and then a fox found it so eventually [00:03:35.01] [00:03:35.01] this top you know makes its way through the community and then ends up as this [00:03:40.06] [00:03:40.06] tiny little piece in the mouse hole which happens to be next to the big Christmas [00:03:44.05] [00:03:44.05] tree where it started so you know there's something about that idea that it's a kind [00:03:49.03] [00:03:49.03] of fact all idea where things that happen at one scale resonate throughout. [00:03:53.18] [00:03:54.22] So the 2nd thing that we always think about is the idea of civic infrastructure [00:04:00.11] [00:04:00.11] a lot of what architects used to think about and do. [00:04:04.03] [00:04:05.23] Has been co-opted by engineers and by technicians by tech companies [00:04:10.14] [00:04:10.14] I was at a cocktail party somebody was telling me about Prop Tech which is like [00:04:15.12] [00:04:15.12] property tax which is basically ideas that architects have every day but [00:04:19.05] [00:04:19.05] get capitalized by Goldman Sachs for $2000000000.00 now. [00:04:21.23] [00:04:23.09] And so I think that you know we need to really reclaim some of these expertises [00:04:28.14] [00:04:28.14] and infrastructure for me is one where there is a lot of invention out there and [00:04:35.07] [00:04:35.07] the idea that infrastructure is what connects us you know if you think about [00:04:41.17] [00:04:41.17] and infrastructure is right for reinvention you know also so this is not [00:04:46.10] [00:04:46.10] a drawing from our office this is our friends urban live in Chicago Chicago but [00:04:50.16] [00:04:50.16] really thinking through you know what are the changes in infrastructure [00:04:54.14] [00:04:54.14] that can impact changes in public space changes in how people live interact with [00:04:59.02] [00:04:59.02] each other changes in how we think about communities and living together [00:05:03.21] [00:05:03.21] which is a really big thing to put on what is normally thought of as a kind of. [00:05:09.06] [00:05:09.06] Technocrats realm but I do think you know if you even just take the simplest [00:05:14.01] [00:05:14.01] aspect of infrastructure like the street section which is here [00:05:19.01] [00:05:19.01] you know it's something we experience every day and we think we know everything [00:05:24.04] [00:05:24.04] about the street but then when you look closely at the things that the simple [00:05:29.07] [00:05:29.07] this street section does from providing from separating the different. [00:05:34.13] [00:05:36.02] Speeds from. [00:05:37.19] [00:05:38.22] Encouraging bicycle use to distributing electricity internet [00:05:43.08] [00:05:43.08] sewage connecting everyone through water infrastructure the street and [00:05:46.21] [00:05:46.21] separating the buildings you know I mean one of the basic rules of the street [00:05:50.13] [00:05:50.13] is that it keeps the buildings far apart that light can penetrate in and [00:05:54.20] [00:05:54.20] privacy so this one you know bury simple urban element [00:05:59.15] [00:05:59.15] the most basic urban element is performing at all these different levels and [00:06:04.06] [00:06:04.06] in the age of the Anthropocene and the age of climate change and sustainability [00:06:09.14] [00:06:09.14] all of these infrastructures are also ripe for reinvention you know what happens when [00:06:14.12] [00:06:14.12] there are no more cars you know or it's all bicycles or you know what [00:06:19.09] [00:06:19.09] is being distributed is not just the things that we know about today or [00:06:23.01] [00:06:23.01] the sewage it's treated in a different way than it used to. [00:06:25.17] [00:06:27.10] And this can provide new forms of public space as well. [00:06:30.20] [00:06:34.13] Open this. [00:06:35.13] [00:06:37.09] You'll see why some of these words are weird at the end. [00:06:39.22] [00:06:41.08] So this is the idea. [00:06:42.19] [00:06:43.23] That. [00:06:44.15] [00:06:46.22] The social infrastructure of our cities and our communities is also changing. [00:06:51.18] [00:06:52.20] The Anthropocene is not just the age of man but [00:06:56.06] [00:06:56.06] it's also the age of man and woman of course. [00:06:58.23] [00:07:01.00] Living in cities it's the age of the city amount of people living [00:07:06.18] [00:07:06.18] in cities has rapidly increased which in a sense is good we're all living in [00:07:11.10] [00:07:11.10] a smaller footprint but everyone living closer together also leads to different [00:07:17.21] [00:07:17.21] possibilities different things that happen in the Commons as it were [00:07:24.14] [00:07:24.14] and I think we're seeing this all over the world we have 3 projects ongoing in Beirut [00:07:29.04] [00:07:29.04] at the moment which also looks like this at the moment which makes it hard to do [00:07:34.07] [00:07:34.07] projects but you know people are demanding different things from government [00:07:40.09] [00:07:40.09] these days the Commons is also a place where government is increasingly [00:07:45.02] [00:07:45.02] asserting control in ways that were never imagined by early urban planners [00:07:50.12] [00:07:50.12] this is you know a typical situation at a street corner in China. [00:07:55.06] [00:07:56.12] Where everyone's face is being recognised and matched to d.n.a. databases so [00:08:01.15] [00:08:01.15] what happens in the Commons is also completely different from 500 years ago. [00:08:07.08] [00:08:08.13] Participation this is I think also starting in the 1970 s. [00:08:14.01] [00:08:14.01] architects increasingly withdrew from participation in [00:08:19.07] [00:08:19.07] civic discourse in politics and in ethics. [00:08:24.03] [00:08:25.05] And in architecture let's say through the eighty's and ninety's and [00:08:29.03] [00:08:29.03] now it was a moment of reengagement where architecture can reengage with the world [00:08:33.16] [00:08:33.16] I think that architects relationship with power [00:08:37.18] [00:08:37.18] has always been something like this you know that's power there's the architect [00:08:41.19] [00:08:41.19] we're completely dependent on power [00:08:44.10] [00:08:44.10] we're in a position it's very difficult as an architect to speak truth to power. [00:08:49.06] [00:08:50.10] You don't get heard and you don't get a lot of work. [00:08:52.12] [00:08:53.19] So I think we have to balance a very fine ethical line. [00:08:58.01] [00:08:59.12] But of course. [00:09:00.20] [00:09:00.20] You know when you're asked to do a project in China for example or [00:09:06.10] [00:09:06.10] even worse if you're asked to do a project in somewhere like Saudi Arabia we have to [00:09:10.20] [00:09:10.20] think you know what is the responsibility ethically of an architect and [00:09:15.22] [00:09:15.22] what is our relationship with power in our projects and for us you know it's not [00:09:20.03] [00:09:20.03] we're not going to just say you know it's not about disengagement but [00:09:25.07] [00:09:25.07] it's kind of like using what little leverage we have here like this offis [00:09:31.13] [00:09:31.13] to push power maybe slightly as much as we can towards a different direction. [00:09:37.10] [00:09:39.06] And then the last of course is environment and. [00:09:42.06] [00:09:44.03] I started thinking about this lecture around how we thought [00:09:46.22] [00:09:46.22] it's good to show scary things. [00:09:48.18] [00:09:50.13] You know I think we all know these charts these are the record heat. [00:09:55.05] [00:09:57.12] Days versus cold days from 880 through 2010. [00:10:01.03] [00:10:02.11] I think we all know these charts we know what's going on this is what the world [00:10:05.06] [00:10:05.06] looked like in July 2019 which is the hottest day ever on record globally. [00:10:10.20] [00:10:11.21] And I think also it's always helpful to remember what architecture is rather cool [00:10:17.12] [00:10:17.12] in climate change and it's diagrams like this that I think should really make us [00:10:22.23] [00:10:22.23] rethink what what we do and how we do it 45 percent This is from Toronto but [00:10:28.18] [00:10:28.18] it could be from any city or [00:10:30.23] [00:10:30.23] any place some places are worse few places are better but [00:10:35.19] [00:10:35.19] buildings in architecture are responsible for a lot of. [00:10:40.09] [00:10:41.21] Climate change so these are 5 different aspects that we've at times thought [00:10:47.03] [00:10:47.03] about in our work and what I thought is interesting is to I went back so [00:10:52.04] [00:10:52.04] it's a kind of Greatest Hits' lecture of our work to try to hand pick the projects [00:10:55.23] [00:10:55.23] which I think best exemplify the type of work and the type of approach [00:11:01.08] [00:11:01.08] that we want to use moving into the to the future so it's kind of you know for [00:11:06.17] [00:11:06.17] us this this is like a road map or it's kind of like the scope. [00:11:10.22] [00:11:12.00] Which is why do some funny words to try to get it to be the scope but [00:11:16.04] [00:11:16.04] if you know this process the scope of what the what the you know rocket that's what [00:11:20.13] [00:11:20.13] was needed scope so this is the scope of how we're going to do it. [00:11:23.15] [00:11:24.20] Let's start with scale so in 2000 and. [00:11:29.01] [00:11:30.06] 7 we we started teaching a seminar at Princeton on ecological urbanism [00:11:36.17] [00:11:36.17] which we thought sounded very cool it was a bit aspirational like this lecture [00:11:40.10] [00:11:40.10] we didn't know anything about ecology or we realized after we started teaching we [00:11:44.11] [00:11:44.11] didn't know that much about urbanism either and so it was an opportunity for [00:11:48.13] [00:11:48.13] us to start a research project a one year research project into the history [00:11:53.14] [00:11:53.14] of urban ism which resulted in this book called 39 cities [00:11:58.12] [00:11:58.12] whereby we went back through the history of visionary urban planning So [00:12:03.17] [00:12:03.17] these are not you know every day cities most of these are unbuilt cities but [00:12:07.12] [00:12:07.12] they're the kind of seminal cities. [00:12:08.23] [00:12:10.08] From the beginning of time from that kind of idealized Roman city all the way to [00:12:13.12] [00:12:13.12] mass Dar which is a city designed by Norman Foster in the Emirates and [00:12:19.04] [00:12:19.04] we looked at all of the cities through an ecological lens so [00:12:22.09] [00:12:22.09] we studied you know what the floor area ratio would have been had these cities [00:12:26.19] [00:12:26.19] been built what the density is how much population they were imagine to contain [00:12:31.21] [00:12:31.21] how much open space they had so it kind of really really reading these cities taking [00:12:35.13] [00:12:35.13] away all of the social issues you know that I think gave architecture such [00:12:40.12] [00:12:40.12] a bad name in the 1960 s. and seventy's with with the urban renewal and [00:12:45.03] [00:12:45.03] things that maybe architects were not always responsible for but [00:12:47.20] [00:12:47.20] really let's just look at how these cities could have performed in a way to [00:12:51.10] [00:12:51.10] understand you know what what the impact of urban ism urban design and architecture [00:12:56.10] [00:12:56.10] can be on the ecological development of cities one of the things we did was we [00:13:01.02] [00:13:01.02] looked at why these cities were built like what was the reaction what were they [00:13:04.22] [00:13:04.22] reacting against or or to what were the original authors thinking about when they [00:13:09.12] [00:13:09.12] were designing these cities and we thought you know it would really change throughout [00:13:13.03] [00:13:13.03] time but what was interesting this is this is the chronological list of the cities [00:13:17.04] [00:13:17.04] that we looked at 200 cities a little a little bit more than 200 and [00:13:21.09] [00:13:21.09] we narrowed it down to these kind of 4949 examples but. [00:13:24.10] [00:13:24.10] The earliest is on the left and the other ones on the right and [00:13:27.19] [00:13:27.19] it was interesting because issues like. [00:13:29.17] [00:13:30.23] Overpopulation population density overcrowding traffic [00:13:35.20] [00:13:35.20] pollution these words came up like 300 years ago people were worried about [00:13:41.08] [00:13:41.08] overcrowding in cities or pollution I think from an invasion Bros [00:13:46.10] [00:13:46.10] one that maybe disappeared like we don't design cities to repel foreign invasion so [00:13:50.19] [00:13:50.19] much and they did it but everything else kind of kept reappearing So [00:13:53.16] [00:13:53.16] it was interesting to see how these ideas have been around for a long time and [00:13:58.03] [00:13:58.03] then what we did is we redrew every city plan so you could compare the scale and [00:14:02.18] [00:14:02.18] then we used a color coding so you could see what was open space [00:14:05.20] [00:14:05.20] what was kind of law and what was park and the buildings were the right and [00:14:10.17] [00:14:10.17] the green was the green what the relationships were between the farms let's [00:14:14.20] [00:14:14.20] say or the land outside the city and land inside the city and [00:14:18.07] [00:14:18.07] we kind of compared them to each other we did a little bit of analysis and some. [00:14:21.12] [00:14:23.07] Images and for us this. [00:14:25.16] [00:14:25.16] This kind of exemplifies our approach to architecture we are interested in the data [00:14:30.03] [00:14:30.03] so the left is this kind of like nutrition chart of how the city performs so [00:14:36.02] [00:14:36.02] those are all the numbers that we were able to glean and then on the right [00:14:39.22] [00:14:39.22] is the new drawings of the city which was just about form and beauty and for [00:14:44.17] [00:14:44.17] us you know architecture our burdensome needs to have these 2 poles and [00:14:49.08] [00:14:49.08] we really love it when we can combine data and from like this so [00:14:54.18] [00:14:54.18] we looked at you know and you just find so many great stories like Paris this is [00:14:59.12] [00:14:59.12] the particular looking at house man's Paris you know where he cleared these [00:15:03.23] [00:15:03.23] great boulevards to open up views between monuments people say that it was for [00:15:08.01] [00:15:08.01] moving troops around and controlling slums but [00:15:11.15] [00:15:11.15] what was also interesting to discover was that this is where the subway system runs [00:15:15.16] [00:15:15.16] so and this is where the plumbing system one runs so this is where Housman and [00:15:20.10] [00:15:20.10] Poland were able to not only change the city visually but they also transformed [00:15:25.07] [00:15:25.07] its infrastructure from a medieval city you know with with the sewage being left [00:15:30.06] [00:15:30.06] out on the doorstep to be collected to a modern city with a modern sanitary system [00:15:34.14] [00:15:34.14] with a modern transportation system. [00:15:36.06] [00:15:39.02] Ocean City the rez a period when a lot of cities were out in the water this is [00:15:42.16] [00:15:42.16] one of them and you know and then these charts we compared all of the cities [00:15:47.02] [00:15:47.02] to each other we kind of ranked them and. [00:15:50.04] [00:15:51.15] We wanted to see who the winner was and unbelievably unexpectedly this winner was [00:15:57.11] [00:15:57.11] radiant city which was it was the highest amount of green space because he had [00:16:02.18] [00:16:02.18] green space on the roofs open space on the roof open space under the building with [00:16:06.02] [00:16:06.02] the people he accommodated the greatest number of people in the smallest footprint [00:16:10.05] [00:16:10.05] so very economical in terms of the ecological impact that the city [00:16:15.04] [00:16:15.04] would have had and we thought you know this is also the poster child for [00:16:19.02] [00:16:19.02] everything that's supposed to be bad about architecture design cities so [00:16:22.04] [00:16:22.04] we thought we would take a closer look at their original drawings forget all that's [00:16:26.05] [00:16:26.05] been written and talked about you know by the New Urbanists and others you know but [00:16:30.03] [00:16:30.03] let's just look at what he was proposing 1st of all he always called it the view of [00:16:33.07] [00:16:33.07] air and he didn't call radiant city so much he was called at the green city [00:16:36.21] [00:16:36.21] you know and the green city sounds sounds good to me and [00:16:39.04] [00:16:39.04] these drawings you know are very green that we came across this photograph and [00:16:43.23] [00:16:43.23] the caption says this is what the great open the open spaces of [00:16:47.04] [00:16:47.04] our great cities could be you know so it's not we always think of Corpus towers in [00:16:51.14] [00:16:51.14] the park like man you're curd lawns with towers but for [00:16:54.16] [00:16:54.16] him it was really about a city in nature there's a beehive in this picture you know [00:16:59.14] [00:16:59.14] it's a very different idea of what an open space in the city could be [00:17:03.17] [00:17:03.17] it's almost Victorian and it's really lush nature and [00:17:07.23] [00:17:07.23] then lastly we discovered that you know everybody knows about Corbin sports like [00:17:11.20] [00:17:11.20] he decided that modern man was going to go play sports so you have all this this is [00:17:16.18] [00:17:16.18] the residential area which was not the towers the residential is were [00:17:20.08] [00:17:20.08] 3 stories tall 50 percent open space and 50 percent apartments for [00:17:25.08] [00:17:25.08] every apartment had a balcony the same size as the apartment and [00:17:29.10] [00:17:29.10] then you had all these game fields you know where you could play but [00:17:33.11] [00:17:33.11] you also had these protege which were community gardens so [00:17:38.05] [00:17:38.05] the idea was that every person living in the radiant city would have 100 square [00:17:42.06] [00:17:42.06] meters a 1000 square foot garden and a farmer would tend to every 100 [00:17:47.00] [00:17:47.00] residences and you would also be growing food in the middle. [00:17:51.04] [00:17:51.04] City which is something that was not discussed so [00:17:54.03] [00:17:54.03] it was interesting to kind of explore how these early projects [00:17:59.04] [00:17:59.04] were already thinking about the relationship between city and [00:18:01.16] [00:18:01.16] nature in ways that maybe had been forgotten so very inspirational for [00:18:06.23] [00:18:06.23] us and in a way we took a lot of what we learned about cities and [00:18:11.15] [00:18:11.15] then applied them to projects as small as for example a temporary pavilion for [00:18:16.05] [00:18:16.05] moma that we did in 2008 so just after we finished that research project we were [00:18:20.23] [00:18:20.23] invited for the p.s. one competition where. [00:18:23.20] [00:18:25.05] The program is for parties that they have throughout the summer [00:18:28.07] [00:18:28.07] it's a temporary pavilion the requirements are shade. [00:18:31.22] [00:18:33.05] Seating and water something with water so not a very sophisticated program. [00:18:38.16] [00:18:40.04] But other than that it's completely open and so we thought since we had just done [00:18:43.19] [00:18:43.19] this study of cities like why don't we propose a tiny utopian piece of what [00:18:49.12] [00:18:49.12] a future civic infrastructure could be so we decided on the urban farm we were not [00:18:55.18] [00:18:55.18] farmers allowed to grow up in rural Rhode Island which is like an oxymoron but. [00:19:01.01] [00:19:03.01] You know the closest we had gotten the dirt was dust pretty much in our apartment [00:19:07.18] [00:19:07.18] but we decided to an urban farm and we decided to make it out of cardboard so [00:19:12.19] [00:19:12.19] that at the end of the summer when they were done partying under the pavilion [00:19:16.14] [00:19:16.14] we could simply recycle the entire thing and turn it back into into paper. [00:19:21.12] [00:19:22.22] And it turned out to be one of the largest paper structures ever [00:19:26.01] [00:19:26.01] built we convinced our engineers we said you know sugar abundance this all the time [00:19:31.12] [00:19:31.12] it's going to be fine and then they found all these You Tube videos of sugar of [00:19:35.11] [00:19:35.11] putting steel tubes down the middle of his cardboard. [00:19:38.07] [00:19:39.15] And we couldn't afford the steel tube so so I was an all paper structure. [00:19:44.02] [00:19:45.04] Their own and then the only c.n.c. [00:19:46.23] [00:19:46.23] milling we did was the disks to hold up the plants we grew 51 different. [00:19:51.04] [00:19:51.04] Types of fruits and vegetables all summer long which were used at the cafe of [00:19:54.17] [00:19:54.17] the museum so the top was this kind of urban farm and then underneath was [00:19:59.09] [00:19:59.09] this kind of idea of party infrastructure so it was kind of civic or [00:20:02.07] [00:20:02.07] infrastructure combined with party infrastructure seeding it was off grid we [00:20:07.04] [00:20:07.04] installed solar panels and solar batteries to run the pumps to do phone charging [00:20:11.20] [00:20:11.20] stations people could leave their phones to charge and then they would come back [00:20:15.06] [00:20:15.06] they'd have a lot of great pictures of other people's friends their phones. [00:20:18.18] [00:20:19.20] And you know places to sit places to hang out to get shade we had herbs [00:20:25.05] [00:20:25.05] growing with fans that blew the smell of the herbs down around so it had a smell [00:20:29.21] [00:20:29.21] component as well so it was really like a functioning piece of infrastructure that [00:20:33.11] [00:20:33.11] also created new forms of public space and new ways to interact in the city. [00:20:37.06] [00:20:38.18] We built it ourselves this is shows the irrigation lines the paper company said [00:20:43.17] [00:20:43.17] you know 2 things one don't ever tell people the name of our company because [00:20:48.20] [00:20:48.20] we don't want to be associated with this so I never say sign a tube ever and. [00:20:54.22] [00:20:56.13] And the 2nd was they said just make sure you don't get the paper wet and [00:20:59.18] [00:20:59.18] we said you know we're only putting 600 gallons of water in there every day so [00:21:03.18] [00:21:03.18] it should be fine. [00:21:04.10] [00:21:06.08] It was 35 feet high structure it's stayed up it run more structural engineering [00:21:11.15] [00:21:11.15] words than architecture words and this is what it looks like with $7000.00 people. [00:21:15.03] [00:21:16.07] So that's how we look at scale you know looking at both [00:21:19.18] [00:21:19.18] you know these incredible visionary urban plans for [00:21:22.02] [00:21:22.02] millions of people a temporary pavilion and in a way learning. [00:21:25.21] [00:21:27.04] You know taking things that we know about one scale and applying them in another. [00:21:32.05] [00:21:33.06] So civic infrastructure we were then invited again by moma since the paper [00:21:38.13] [00:21:38.13] structure had fallen down to think about the future of the suburbs and [00:21:44.17] [00:21:44.17] prior to this we had done the study of the suburbs where we decided that you could. [00:21:49.11] [00:21:51.03] You could turn New Jersey into farmland [00:21:54.17] [00:21:54.17] by moving everybody in New Jersey into Newark. [00:21:57.07] [00:21:58.15] And you know having a city as big as Manhattan and [00:22:01.22] [00:22:01.22] as dense as men had next to Manhattan and then provide all the food [00:22:06.02] [00:22:06.02] simply by forming New Jersey that was our idea of what the suburbs could become. [00:22:10.02] [00:22:11.08] But that was the idea of what the suburbs wanted to become I think so and [00:22:16.03] [00:22:16.03] moma didn't want to do that so for this project we thought like let's go back [00:22:21.09] [00:22:21.09] to the beginning of the suburbs like let's This was also in our research like what is [00:22:25.12] [00:22:25.12] that what how did this idea of the suburbs come about and this is Ebenezer Howard's [00:22:30.17] [00:22:30.17] great diagram from the 1900 to what he was the really the 1st one to kind [00:22:35.15] [00:22:35.15] of theorize the suburbs he said the city at the turn of the century is a very [00:22:39.19] [00:22:39.19] polluted very industrial place very difficult living lots of poverty [00:22:45.00] [00:22:45.00] lots of pollution not a great place but he also said the countryside at the turn of [00:22:49.22] [00:22:49.22] the century was also not a great place people had to work really really hard [00:22:53.05] [00:22:53.05] just to make enough food to eat also a lot of poverty also a lot of disease. [00:22:57.18] [00:22:58.20] Also not a great place so he said you know the people in the middle where [00:23:02.02] [00:23:02.02] will they go and he came up with this idea of the town country which would be [00:23:06.10] [00:23:06.10] amazing like would be the best of all roads you would have learned rents and [00:23:10.11] [00:23:10.11] lower prices in the field for enterprise you would have no sweating no sweating so [00:23:18.04] [00:23:18.04] it was going to be great and of course as we know the suburbs are not great. [00:23:22.13] [00:23:25.03] We were given this site in Kaiser Oregon Oregon is [00:23:30.04] [00:23:30.04] an amazing state every municipality is bounded by urban growth boundary. [00:23:35.18] [00:23:37.13] And you can really see it in satellite images the line between the city and [00:23:41.23] [00:23:41.23] the countryside is very distinct and that is the urban growth boundary [00:23:46.00] [00:23:46.00] Kaiser which is a suburb of Salem which is the capital if you were if you had been in [00:23:50.18] [00:23:50.18] 4th grade and paid attention you would know and [00:23:55.23] [00:23:55.23] Kaiser was expanding so they said we're going to get $14000.00 new people so [00:23:59.17] [00:23:59.17] their proposal was the red Let's explain span the urban growth boundary so [00:24:03.08] [00:24:03.08] we're going to comment all these people in new suburbs which is of course not [00:24:06.23] [00:24:06.23] the idea of the urban growth boundary The idea is you don't do that so we thought we [00:24:11.22] [00:24:11.22] would take this idea of 14000 new people and put it in this site which was. [00:24:16.12] [00:24:18.07] What do you call it it's like an outlet mall. [00:24:20.18] [00:24:22.20] This is what it looked like so we thought let's just take this site that nobody's [00:24:26.14] [00:24:26.14] using nobody really likes and put 14000 people there really think through [00:24:31.17] [00:24:31.17] whether it's possible to create the town country to create a place that [00:24:35.06] [00:24:35.06] has all the advantages of the city all the beauty of the countryside. [00:24:39.14] [00:24:40.17] In one place. [00:24:41.15] [00:24:42.19] So this is what we came up with and it's kind of idea of this kind of urban peers [00:24:46.22] [00:24:46.22] into this completely natural wood it in and. [00:24:51.07] [00:24:52.12] To our environment so that in the end you had what was 5 times [00:24:57.02] [00:24:57.02] typical density of a typical suburb but you also have 3 times the amount of [00:25:01.21] [00:25:01.21] open space you have in a typical suburb so it's both much more dense and urban and [00:25:06.15] [00:25:06.15] much more natural and and wild in a way so this is this is the project that [00:25:11.09] [00:25:11.09] we determine so in between those piers we worked with a landscape to call it so [00:25:15.13] [00:25:15.13] this project we work with landscape ecologist we work with urban planners we [00:25:19.13] [00:25:19.13] work to mazing Civil Engineers and sustainability consultants we also worked [00:25:25.02] [00:25:25.02] with you know people to kind of calculate all the costs government experts [00:25:31.05] [00:25:31.05] local law experts to try to really make this as realistic as possible everything [00:25:36.07] [00:25:36.07] from the finances to the legal framework to how the property would be owned and [00:25:41.04] [00:25:41.04] maintained and with the landscape ecologist it was great you know because we [00:25:45.10] [00:25:45.10] basically research what the what was deep under the parking lots of the mall [00:25:51.01] [00:25:51.01] what this land would have been like before people settled Salem and Kaiser and [00:25:56.07] [00:25:56.07] to recreate you know this kind of forests and and to create the ability for [00:26:01.06] [00:26:01.06] land for animals also to move throughout unimpeded through the through the zone so [00:26:07.12] [00:26:07.12] you have this kind of and then to create on the other side incredible density [00:26:12.20] [00:26:12.20] obviously so and to create new type ologies in the suburbs there's really [00:26:17.08] [00:26:17.08] only one type ology a building to create a myriad of type ologies for [00:26:21.11] [00:26:21.11] how people can live work entertain engage in civic discourse. [00:26:25.23] [00:26:27.17] Collaborate communicate and also create buildings that were in [00:26:32.15] [00:26:32.15] themselves new forms of sustainable infrastructure so every birding. [00:26:38.02] [00:26:39.14] Every building also contains a kind of. [00:26:42.05] [00:26:42.05] Infrastructure that crosses that in a 2nd but also a different forms of green space [00:26:47.05] [00:26:47.05] from parks to this wild woodland to yards it's cetera so [00:26:51.22] [00:26:51.22] that you not only have a plethora of building type of growth of a type or [00:26:56.14] [00:26:56.14] a landscape type and then this is the diagram of the infrastructure the idea is [00:27:00.20] [00:27:00.20] that each of the large buildings would perform one little piece of sustainable [00:27:04.03] [00:27:04.03] infrastructure which would then interact with other buildings so [00:27:07.06] [00:27:07.06] that it was not only a new vision for a community in terms of how people interact [00:27:11.17] [00:27:11.17] but the buildings itself in order for the community to function the buildings [00:27:15.07] [00:27:15.07] themselves also contributed to each other so for example we would design and [00:27:20.03] [00:27:20.03] then we would take the infrastructure and use that as inspiration for [00:27:23.13] [00:27:23.13] the design of the building so for the sewage treatment plant this is the natural [00:27:27.20] [00:27:27.20] water filtration system called a living machine which has a kind of. [00:27:32.01] [00:27:33.10] Black Water treatment which would be underground in indoors but [00:27:36.19] [00:27:36.19] then the next 2 phases of water treatment the water can actually be outside [00:27:40.12] [00:27:40.12] you can raise fish in the water which will help clean it and [00:27:43.22] [00:27:43.22] so it's this kind of series of pools which then form this kind of ribbon type ology [00:27:48.08] [00:27:48.08] of buildings around around the infrastructure we need water pressure for [00:27:53.15] [00:27:53.15] the site so they said we needed some kind of water tower so [00:27:56.08] [00:27:56.08] we combined the water tower with another building type so and instead of putting [00:28:01.03] [00:28:01.03] the water in pipes it becomes a waterfall in the middle of the building which then [00:28:05.11] [00:28:05.11] turns turbines to produce power and creates the water pressure for [00:28:08.09] [00:28:08.09] the site and creates this kind of other live work type ology tower and then [00:28:13.08] [00:28:13.08] we had to compost Hill otherwise known as affectionately known as should mountain. [00:28:18.01] [00:28:19.17] But it was really for vegetable compost so all compost food scraps etc will be [00:28:24.08] [00:28:24.08] brought here compost can turn into methane methink can be used in another building to [00:28:28.14] [00:28:28.14] form to be used in the fuel cell to power to read power for the city the only. [00:28:35.03] [00:28:36.11] Outcome of the methane production is heat so [00:28:40.04] [00:28:40.04] we have pools at the top which are heated you. [00:28:42.01] [00:28:42.01] Around for the community and you need this kind of dome and [00:28:45.11] [00:28:45.11] then the dome creates this kind of spiraling. [00:28:47.15] [00:28:49.15] Series of houses around the outside and this kind of public space so [00:28:52.16] [00:28:52.16] there's a spiral of the public walk which gets you up to the public pools and [00:28:56.11] [00:28:56.11] then a 2nd spiral of private yards and then every building is a duplex with [00:29:01.03] [00:29:01.03] access to both and then here you see how the building you know the piers so [00:29:06.07] [00:29:06.07] the streets are continuous urbanism and then the bridges you know [00:29:09.19] [00:29:09.19] if you're walking through the city on the bridges you think you're in a normal city [00:29:14.16] [00:29:14.16] urban infrastructure all the landscape is completely passing underneath you [00:29:18.16] [00:29:18.16] to provide So you have continuous organism and continuous landscape. [00:29:22.16] [00:29:24.15] We also go to than ad agency we did ads for the new community. [00:29:29.02] [00:29:30.17] Which we showed at Moma So these are a couple of the ads. [00:29:34.03] [00:30:04.20] Of course we had a huge affordable. [00:30:06.12] [00:30:08.08] Affordable component of these get. [00:30:10.06] [00:30:37.19] So the civic infrastructure. [00:30:39.03] [00:30:40.07] Openness is about public space for us it's about public space it's about reinventing [00:30:44.14] [00:30:44.14] the Commons and specifically I think rethinking. [00:30:47.21] [00:30:49.02] What our urban sprawl what open space means as cities become bigger and bigger [00:30:53.11] [00:30:53.11] and bigger and more and more dense I think throughout the history of cities public [00:30:57.16] [00:30:57.16] space the true public space has only been imagined in 2 dimensions right you [00:31:02.23] [00:31:02.23] can't have vertical public space and one of the things that we're really interested [00:31:07.11] [00:31:07.11] in is you know what happens when you have so many people that you just simply can't. [00:31:11.10] [00:31:12.10] Only have public space on the ground level and can we create a vertical public space [00:31:18.05] [00:31:18.05] so this is the garage project that Scott mentioned. [00:31:21.10] [00:31:22.12] It's in Miami. [00:31:23.12] [00:31:25.07] We were asked it's not even a parking garage it's actually Diskin of the parking [00:31:29.08] [00:31:29.08] garage we someone else did the parking garage we were asked to come and [00:31:32.09] [00:31:32.09] make the parting parking garage pretty. [00:31:34.17] [00:31:35.22] Parking garages in general is a kind of a shallow [00:31:38.21] [00:31:38.21] program to work with not much there. [00:31:40.21] [00:31:42.09] They said that we could project out flip feet if we wanted to so we could have for [00:31:46.11] [00:31:46.11] a feed of play and our facade for the parking garage thank you very much so [00:31:51.09] [00:31:51.09] that was a kind of shallow site so we had a shallow program going to shallow site [00:31:55.20] [00:31:55.20] and we were working in Miami which is. [00:31:58.14] [00:31:59.15] Kind of a shallow city so we thought we would just do the deepest [00:32:04.12] [00:32:04.12] possible program in our shallow world so in the flat feet that they gave us we [00:32:09.11] [00:32:09.11] convince them to let us put all the vertical. [00:32:11.13] [00:32:12.18] Circulation to do an art gallery an auditorium with a d.j. [00:32:17.14] [00:32:17.14] booth we're always trying to put d.j. booths in projects we have a little park [00:32:22.06] [00:32:22.06] with palm trees we have a children's playground we have a whole pet area we [00:32:26.06] [00:32:26.06] have a listening lounge where you can plug in your phone or Bluetooth and [00:32:31.06] [00:32:31.06] listen to music we have places to display Bigart and small art. [00:32:36.01] [00:32:37.02] And a bunch of other things sitting all within the 4 feet and [00:32:40.17] [00:32:40.17] we thought it would be the kind of carve outs of sometimes you saw what was going [00:32:44.00] [00:32:44.00] on behind the facade and sometimes not so it becomes this kind of vertical [00:32:48.15] [00:32:48.15] form of activity and this was the model of the outside so [00:32:53.05] [00:32:53.05] you kind of get to him says and then on the inside we thought you know it's Miami [00:32:57.09] [00:32:57.09] the only thing we know about Miami is pink So there's a library there too. [00:33:01.01] [00:33:02.02] So we painted everything pink We got in trouble with the building department [00:33:05.12] [00:33:05.12] because they were like Ok Well here are the requirements for [00:33:07.19] [00:33:07.19] an auditorium here's if you have a d.j. performing Here's all what you need for [00:33:11.22] [00:33:11.22] a library you need to hire 3 full time barbarians and [00:33:15.12] [00:33:15.12] all this stuff so we had to relabel all our drawings. [00:33:17.23] [00:33:19.05] And this is the final project what's cool is that so [00:33:23.11] [00:33:23.11] you see the kind of opaque and clear but because we needed ventilation for [00:33:27.16] [00:33:27.16] the car exhaust the opaque also is made out of perforated metal so at times you [00:33:32.14] [00:33:32.14] get glimpses through it especially at night so here's the project and [00:33:36.09] [00:33:36.09] he see the 4 feet and here it is at night and we have a little. [00:33:41.03] [00:33:42.07] Movie. [00:33:42.19] [00:33:55.15] Sorry. [00:33:56.03] [00:34:29.07] Thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks. [00:34:37.19] [00:34:38.21] Thanks to architecture students. [00:34:42.23] [00:34:46.09] And then at a different school this is a museum of art project. [00:34:50.12] [00:34:52.03] Which takes that idea. [00:34:53.14] [00:34:54.18] Of vertical public space and I think takes it maybe to the next level so [00:34:59.14] [00:34:59.14] the idea is that this is a museum where we looked at that it was a competition and [00:35:04.06] [00:35:04.06] we looked at the program with Museum experts and [00:35:06.18] [00:35:06.18] realized that there was probably about 20 percent to many galleries for [00:35:10.12] [00:35:10.12] what the back of house spaces were and the budget and so [00:35:15.00] [00:35:15.00] what we proposed is taking those galleries 20 percent of the galleries and actually [00:35:19.06] [00:35:19.06] making them more like a sculpture garden and outdoor series of project rooms and [00:35:23.20] [00:35:23.20] open spaces that wouldn't have to be climate controlled and to put those [00:35:28.12] [00:35:28.12] you know what's great about museums they are true public institutions but [00:35:32.14] [00:35:32.14] oftentimes they are very blank because you don't want a lot of windows in your museum [00:35:37.06] [00:35:37.06] so the idea is we put those 20 percent of the galleries around the outside of [00:35:41.05] [00:35:41.05] the building creating all different types of scale and space and then [00:35:45.19] [00:35:45.19] to connect all of them with a walk away so that you can also meander and experience [00:35:50.12] [00:35:50.12] the building from the outside you can kind of just walk up to the cafe at the top and [00:35:55.03] [00:35:55.03] walk back down where you can use that as the kind of [00:35:59.05] [00:35:59.05] slower connection not the elevators from gallery to gallery as you go up through [00:36:02.22] [00:36:02.22] the floors of the building and then it's also experienced obviously by [00:36:06.21] [00:36:06.21] it's on a university campus it's also experienced by anyone passing by so [00:36:11.06] [00:36:11.06] that the art there's an amazing Lebanese art scene and the museum which. [00:36:16.09] [00:36:17.23] Is going forward is now collecting a lot of the artifacts for [00:36:21.13] [00:36:21.13] the ongoing revolution so it's a very active engaged community but [00:36:26.03] [00:36:26.03] there's not a lot of cultural projects and there's not a lot of open space so [00:36:30.06] [00:36:30.06] this crude plethora of open spaces are supplanting and things like that and [00:36:34.16] [00:36:34.16] then inside it's a very straightforward stacked series a box gallery so [00:36:38.20] [00:36:38.20] you can see here you know you have 2 big galleries that can be combined or [00:36:41.23] [00:36:41.23] can be separate ringed with all these smaller galleries. [00:36:45.14] [00:36:45.14] They create this kind of catalog of different spaces and [00:36:48.13] [00:36:48.13] this kind of almost like a cityscape on the outside of the building and [00:36:52.17] [00:36:52.17] here's the path that you would take as you may have to through the building or [00:36:56.08] [00:36:56.08] you can also kind of as I said use it as the circulation from one gallery to [00:36:59.21] [00:36:59.21] the next and it's very easy technology were simply [00:37:04.01] [00:37:04.01] you know the concrete frame is the of the building is the main structure and [00:37:08.15] [00:37:08.15] then all the balconies are hung off can't leave it off and [00:37:11.12] [00:37:11.12] in fact we're using the vertical pieces as trusses so there's a brain light weight [00:37:16.00] [00:37:16.00] steel system that creates all these balconies around the outside we have a lot [00:37:20.06] [00:37:20.06] of freedom with the size and the and the placement of those as a result So [00:37:25.05] [00:37:25.05] for example this is a truss that supports this and the truss here and and [00:37:28.19] [00:37:28.19] the truss here so it has this kind of almost effortless look to it we're so [00:37:33.18] [00:37:33.18] we're in design development on this project. [00:37:35.18] [00:37:36.18] Which will be a kind of more sober I mean let's say [00:37:41.14] [00:37:41.14] participation so Scott mentioned our work with edible schoolyards. [00:37:45.11] [00:37:47.07] And do we have to be done in 5 or $530.00. [00:37:50.08] [00:37:51.18] I could skip the rest were get [00:37:54.18] [00:37:54.18] we did start a little late because of microphones. [00:37:56.10] [00:37:58.06] Ok Ok we'll keep going so. [00:38:00.23] [00:38:02.11] The Edible Schoolyard project literally someone came to the p.s. [00:38:06.17] [00:38:06.17] one the urban farm and said you know I'm on the board of this [00:38:11.11] [00:38:11.11] foundation in San Francisco that creates organic gardens and [00:38:16.04] [00:38:16.04] organic cooking for public schools in Berkeley California and [00:38:20.21] [00:38:20.21] we want to bring this to New York would you guys work with us on it and [00:38:25.11] [00:38:25.11] I was like Yeah you know we were very excited because it basically we were able [00:38:28.18] [00:38:28.18] to use everything we just learned at p.s. one and apply it to a real institution [00:38:33.22] [00:38:33.22] a permanent structure in the city so we're like Ok let's meet you know let's [00:38:38.23] [00:38:38.23] meet the people who are involved in this and the guy was like well it's me and [00:38:43.22] [00:38:43.22] you guys so that's 3 of us and he's right and I have the principal of the school who [00:38:48.09] [00:38:48.09] seems interested so we're like Ok well let's go meet the principal so [00:38:53.03] [00:38:53.03] out of that group of the 3 of us plus plus the principal. [00:38:57.04] [00:38:58.05] Is now an enormous. [00:38:59.18] [00:39:00.19] Undertaking that is in more than $100.00 schools in New York City and [00:39:06.13] [00:39:06.13] we are in the process of building one kind of major project in each of the 5 [00:39:11.09] [00:39:11.09] boroughs which has been fully funded by the city council so it's become the and [00:39:15.17] [00:39:15.17] every chef in New York City participates in the and the benefits and [00:39:19.05] [00:39:19.05] the it's just an incredible thing to see this thing go from one guy [00:39:23.13] [00:39:23.13] one incredible guy by the way I mean just lots of energy into the system and [00:39:27.18] [00:39:27.18] I think you know and it has an amazing impact on the children so they do [00:39:31.19] [00:39:31.19] it doesn't change what they learn what it does is change how they learn it and [00:39:36.16] [00:39:36.16] so and we're putting these in places with high obesity rates high rates of diabetes [00:39:41.10] [00:39:41.10] places that have less green space than the rest of New York City so [00:39:44.08] [00:39:44.08] it's also providing something completely new for this community. [00:39:47.23] [00:39:49.12] And what it does is combine math science or whatever they're studying [00:39:54.08] [00:39:54.08] with growing and cooking food so if you're studying math you're. [00:39:57.19] [00:39:57.19] Measuring out you know you do a thing about measuring if it's science about how [00:40:01.01] [00:40:01.01] water boils you know they're studying native Americans in history class so [00:40:05.23] [00:40:05.23] then they cooked what the Native Americans meant had what it took so [00:40:08.20] [00:40:08.20] it's all integrated with the curriculum and [00:40:11.07] [00:40:11.07] it really changes the way that these kids think about food you know there all [00:40:14.15] [00:40:14.15] the sudden they vote every year they have a big election they're campaigning for [00:40:18.10] [00:40:18.10] what vegetables get planted in like people like you know and [00:40:24.04] [00:40:24.04] it's amazing to see so you know 3rd times a month every month that these kids are in [00:40:28.17] [00:40:28.17] school for 7 years they are here either working in the garden or [00:40:32.22] [00:40:32.22] working in the kitchen classroom combining it with what they're learning and it's [00:40:37.07] [00:40:37.07] it's just these are the kind of projects that really are exciting to be involved [00:40:40.18] [00:40:40.18] with of course we had to translate Berkeley California warm weather lots of [00:40:44.20] [00:40:44.20] space to New York City cold weather not so much space and so the greenhouse [00:40:50.01] [00:40:50.01] became an important component of this the project has 3 parts there's a green house [00:40:54.12] [00:40:54.12] the kitchen classroom and and what we call the infrastructure well [00:40:58.16] [00:40:58.16] which is a composting toilet and. [00:41:00.11] [00:41:02.14] System it's a chicken coop and tool shed and the cistern where we [00:41:07.11] [00:41:07.11] collect all the rainwater off the roof to reuse it and we cried it in blue rubber so [00:41:11.14] [00:41:11.14] it's kind of fun and spongy and you know the idea is to kind of spark children's [00:41:15.17] [00:41:15.17] curiosity also about how the building is contributing to the environment. [00:41:19.09] [00:41:20.13] And this is the kitchen closer in the middle of the greenhouse and [00:41:23.05] [00:41:23.05] they have lessons in the greenhouse all through the winter the kitchen classroom [00:41:26.04] [00:41:26.04] was really fun to think through so it's not a industrial kitchen and [00:41:30.07] [00:41:30.07] it's not a kid kitchen it's really at the scale of what they would experience when [00:41:34.16] [00:41:34.16] they go home and the idea is that they take what they learn here about okra and [00:41:38.16] [00:41:38.16] they go and convince their parents to cook okra which happens we use these [00:41:43.18] [00:41:43.18] grounds in this pattern which has become the kind of. [00:41:46.20] [00:41:47.23] Which something to do with some to do with James wines but I won't go into it and [00:41:52.18] [00:41:52.18] then this is the 2nd one which is the 1st one is in Brooklyn this one is in [00:41:55.18] [00:41:55.18] Manhattan in Harlem. [00:41:57.22] [00:41:57.22] What's cool is that you know depending on what the school configuration is [00:42:00.18] [00:42:00.18] the building configuration is different so this is a bigger green house with [00:42:03.23] [00:42:03.23] a rooftop garden that you can't see behind it. [00:42:06.14] [00:42:07.15] That connects the kitchen classroom and the offices inside the building. [00:42:11.20] [00:42:12.21] Participation is also about working in academia it's something we're increasingly [00:42:17.16] [00:42:17.16] doing and thinking through what the changes are in school and academics for [00:42:22.10] [00:42:22.10] the 21st century this is a renovation of a building at Risd the Rhode Island School [00:42:26.13] [00:42:26.13] of Design as you can tell this building was built in 1058 [00:42:31.21] [00:42:31.21] that's mid century modernism for Providence Rhode Island. [00:42:34.15] [00:42:35.23] But you know it does in Providence they don't care like this is [00:42:38.19] [00:42:38.19] this is a historic building we're like well 958 and they're like but look at it [00:42:43.11] [00:42:43.11] it's a historic building you have to treat it the same that you do the court [00:42:46.21] [00:42:46.21] house across the street from like 810 So anyway it's a historic building. [00:42:51.17] [00:42:52.18] It's a it's a u. shaped building. [00:42:54.15] [00:42:55.21] And it's the registrar financial services on one side and [00:42:59.03] [00:42:59.03] that's going through a big transformation. [00:43:00.18] [00:43:01.19] It's much more individually. [00:43:03.18] [00:43:05.02] Focused academic advising has become a really big thing so [00:43:08.04] [00:43:08.04] this is the kind of advising center now where finance people and [00:43:12.21] [00:43:12.21] registrar people meet one on one with students to kind of plan out their [00:43:16.11] [00:43:16.11] education it's much more about you know how the school can perform for [00:43:21.09] [00:43:21.09] the students in a way that is that is really changed over the last let's say [00:43:26.21] [00:43:26.21] 30 years on the other side is the Career Center this is an art school they have 30 [00:43:31.07] [00:43:31.07] people just working on getting jobs for everybody when they graduate this is where [00:43:35.07] [00:43:35.07] the parents go to be convinced that it's Ok to send your kid to art school and [00:43:40.14] [00:43:40.14] it's very convincing I have to say they do an amazing job they get Google Apple comes [00:43:44.23] [00:43:44.23] their they hire you know dozens of kids they track every kid their graduates for [00:43:49.11] [00:43:49.11] 10 years afterwards to see where they're working to set up a network so [00:43:52.18] [00:43:52.18] that different it is really an amazing enterprise and. [00:43:57.20] [00:43:57.20] Moving here because it was much more the center of campus and then in between [00:44:01.10] [00:44:01.10] they wanted a space where students would feel comfortable they wanted more and [00:44:04.04] [00:44:04.04] more students to take advantage of these you know administrative tasks that might [00:44:08.22] [00:44:08.22] they might think you know were totally boring to try to pull of making a cool [00:44:12.07] [00:44:12.07] place to hang out so that they're really to get the most out of their education so [00:44:16.17] [00:44:16.17] there's a gallery there are some flexible meeting rooms there's like a lounge space [00:44:20.14] [00:44:20.14] and then at some point during design Rizzi said to us you know what we really need is [00:44:25.00] [00:44:25.00] the mail room and I was like who was there writing letters what's going on and [00:44:30.13] [00:44:30.13] then they were like internet shopping you know everyone lives in the dorm at risk [00:44:35.07] [00:44:35.07] and all the packages are centrally handled and [00:44:38.12] [00:44:38.12] there are billions of packages literally hundreds of packages every day this school [00:44:42.19] [00:44:42.19] 2000 students you guys know because you're in school [00:44:45.07] [00:44:45.07] 2000 students at this school they get 6 deliveries a day from Fed Ex and u.p.s.. [00:44:49.12] [00:44:50.17] And so the mailroom became a project and it's really fun because obviously the post [00:44:55.12] [00:44:55.12] office was one of the most important pieces of civic infrastructure that we had [00:44:59.15] [00:44:59.15] in the past and now you know it's kind of we look at it as an opportunity to kind of [00:45:03.21] [00:45:03.21] chance from this is what the man looked like before transformed the post office [00:45:08.20] [00:45:08.20] for the 21st century so we said you know there's obviously not enough room here for [00:45:12.11] [00:45:12.11] the mailroom you need a ton of space so that we can build some to build a building [00:45:15.22] [00:45:15.22] in the back just for the mail room but obviously then you can't get in when [00:45:20.19] [00:45:20.19] to give money to a mail room it's just not cool enough yet. [00:45:23.22] [00:45:25.02] And so we said well we'll just make it twice as big and [00:45:28.02] [00:45:28.02] then we'll have an auditorium and the people pay for the auditorium and [00:45:30.18] [00:45:30.18] that'll pay for the room and that worked really well so. [00:45:34.03] [00:45:35.22] Thank you David Byrne for the David Byrne auditorium. [00:45:39.04] [00:45:42.03] And it was cool because then we took advantage I guess [00:45:45.03] [00:45:45.03] at some point this was supposed to be a building so the that back area was [00:45:49.21] [00:45:49.21] totally blank walls you know a few windows up by but it was just a parking lot and so [00:45:54.03] [00:45:54.03] we were able to kind of insert our new building in the middle. [00:45:58.12] [00:45:58.12] And so you get glimpses of this kind of transformation both through the through [00:46:03.04] [00:46:03.04] the you know the kind of bigger scale of the in the back and then you know glimpses [00:46:07.23] [00:46:07.23] through the front so you come into this area it was clear there's a weird section [00:46:12.09] [00:46:12.09] there's a bill for an insurance company I don't know what they're doing but [00:46:14.20] [00:46:14.20] you know we got at the inside this becomes a kind of place to wait and [00:46:17.07] [00:46:17.07] then this is this big flexible space which can sometimes be a gallery in the back or [00:46:21.21] [00:46:21.21] working with just amazing company now and who manufactures acoustic curtains that [00:46:26.07] [00:46:26.07] have the same rating as Dr Bailes an amazing system so [00:46:32.15] [00:46:32.15] it can be completely open like this where you can pull the curtains and create [00:46:35.13] [00:46:35.13] privacy so it's a completely transformable space where there's furniture and [00:46:40.06] [00:46:40.06] there's a little cafe and then this is the entrance to the mail room and [00:46:44.00] [00:46:44.00] here's the whole system it's amazing the truck pulls up the packages [00:46:47.05] [00:46:47.05] come out busy has their own proprietary scanning software they scan the package [00:46:51.06] [00:46:51.06] an email goes to the student the package is ready they go to pick it up they unbox [00:46:55.00] [00:46:55.00] it we have a whole unboxing place we can take yourself in with your junk and [00:46:58.13] [00:46:58.13] then the box gets broken down we have a place to put the box and [00:47:02.09] [00:47:02.09] then the sculpture students and the furniture design students come and [00:47:04.22] [00:47:04.22] take the boxes and make models or picture out of the boxes and [00:47:09.02] [00:47:09.02] it's a nice system if it's food if you've got food shipped from Asia for [00:47:13.13] [00:47:13.13] example it goes in the fridge and there's a 24 hour countdown clock that starts and [00:47:18.21] [00:47:18.21] if you don't get your food in 24 hours it's thrown out so [00:47:22.01] [00:47:22.01] this is the kind of load in and then this is if you zoom into this photo there's [00:47:25.06] [00:47:25.06] only one company providing all these boxes. [00:47:27.18] [00:47:28.19] It's a kind of curvy arrow. [00:47:30.16] [00:47:33.15] And he has that kind of selfie unboxing area where you break down [00:47:37.22] [00:47:37.22] break down your box and then the edition in the back so we wanted to work [00:47:42.12] [00:47:42.12] you know it's something very contemporary like what we did with Miami we realized [00:47:47.05] [00:47:47.05] by back painting the perforated metal pink you get these incredibly cool [00:47:51.13] [00:47:51.13] moments from the side where the pink was in the depth of the material and [00:47:56.10] [00:47:56.10] so from the side it looked pink and from the front it looked so right and so [00:48:00.03] [00:48:00.03] here we took the grain from the pilot asters of the building and this was for [00:48:04.01] [00:48:04.01] the historic people and the and the brick red and back painted the back of it red so [00:48:10.00] [00:48:10.00] that as you move from the side it becomes more modeled and kind of red reddish Gray [00:48:15.11] [00:48:15.11] from the side and then from the front it's over and the basically lifts up and [00:48:19.01] [00:48:19.01] this is the big auditorium flexible auditorium which is also a moment where is [00:48:23.08] [00:48:23.08] the which has its own town and down issues where is the can kind of open up [00:48:27.05] [00:48:27.05] to the city there's a real projection screen so we can project you can see [00:48:31.08] [00:48:31.08] what's being projected in inside if you want or [00:48:35.18] [00:48:35.18] you can break but completely black it out so very flexible inside. [00:48:40.06] [00:48:41.08] Can be transformed into a gallery etc And [00:48:43.18] [00:48:43.18] then what was really great was the opportunity for [00:48:46.19] [00:48:46.19] us to really think through what a gender inclusive bathroom could be. [00:48:51.12] [00:48:52.23] And this was something we personally pushed for very hard. [00:48:55.18] [00:48:57.13] It's very difficult to do a from the ground up gender inclusive bathroom but [00:49:02.01] [00:49:02.01] we were able to convince the plumbing department in Providence [00:49:05.10] [00:49:05.10] basically by saying that the bathrooms were on the 2nd floor and the basement and [00:49:09.16] [00:49:09.16] that you know it's like the Wizard of Oz Pay no attention to the thing that looks [00:49:14.07] [00:49:14.07] like a bathroom in the middle of the drawing you know we have all our fixtures [00:49:18.01] [00:49:18.01] elsewhere which are completely gendered don't worry about it so [00:49:22.01] [00:49:22.01] this was basically we had the flexibility to do whatever we want the idea was [00:49:25.20] [00:49:25.20] you know from the from the all the doors of the same and then you open and [00:49:29.14] [00:49:29.14] each stall has its has a different color and a different shape we worked with [00:49:34.18] [00:49:34.18] a group called Q space which works with gender inclusive issues in architecture [00:49:41.00] [00:49:41.00] to really think through what was going to make people feel comfortable and [00:49:44.09] [00:49:44.09] what was going to be the best solution the collective think was something that [00:49:48.08] [00:49:48.08] they really pushed for and so we have the collective think in the middle but [00:49:52.13] [00:49:52.13] instead of the same saying we used every single think in the Korean catalog from [00:49:56.21] [00:49:56.21] the janitor sink to the bar sink to the circle sink so [00:50:00.06] [00:50:00.06] each sink is also different and instead of having the sink inside the stars there's [00:50:05.01] [00:50:05.01] this little kind of privacy moment where you can use the mirror touch up [00:50:10.06] [00:50:10.06] your make up there's a little shelf so you can have a moment inside before you can [00:50:14.12] [00:50:14.12] join the collective space in the middle and then the day we took photographs of [00:50:18.18] [00:50:18.18] the typical resistance happened to be there this is what it looks like and [00:50:23.14] [00:50:23.14] it's I mean it's great it's a little bit crazy because basically you [00:50:26.16] [00:50:26.16] go in there's a bunch of people taking pictures of the bathroom not so great but. [00:50:30.00] [00:50:31.04] It's fun environment last but [00:50:33.23] [00:50:33.23] not least 3 cities a project we did with and farm which is an art and [00:50:39.00] [00:50:39.00] architecture collaborative from the 1970 s. they had designed this dolphin embassy [00:50:43.03] [00:50:43.03] in the seventy's which dolphins were very big in the seventy's and [00:50:47.09] [00:50:47.09] there was an idea that dolphins would be able to communicate with people and [00:50:52.02] [00:50:52.02] the Dolphins could drive this boat by hooking up their brains to electrodes and. [00:50:55.20] [00:50:57.03] It's fun to work with people like this and. [00:50:58.20] [00:51:00.15] So and had a big they used it they had a project with aerosol cans where [00:51:05.16] [00:51:05.16] they were collecting aerosol cans it was a they were always really concerned with [00:51:08.11] [00:51:08.11] the environment they collected aerosol cans when they were being banned and [00:51:12.01] [00:51:12.01] I don't know why it's on auto. [00:51:13.01] [00:51:14.07] But they collected them all next of flame source and their entire archives [00:51:19.08] [00:51:19.08] burned down so one of the things when we started collaborating was we kind of said [00:51:22.21] [00:51:22.21] well we'll redraw your projects for you know all the drawings that you lost or [00:51:26.23] [00:51:26.23] that never existed so we redo that dolphin embassy they never had plans or sections [00:51:31.05] [00:51:31.05] they had done the color drawings of it so we created these drawings together with [00:51:34.10] [00:51:34.10] them and then we thought through this project this was for the Chicago be and [00:51:38.16] [00:51:38.16] all the idea was to think through what is the Dolphin embassy for the 21st century [00:51:43.22] [00:51:43.22] and so we call it 3 city it's culture No it's climate convention and [00:51:48.23] [00:51:48.23] cruise so it's a kind of giant cruise ship where you talk about convention [00:51:52.23] [00:51:52.23] issues that the wind powered ship that would float from city to city. [00:51:56.11] [00:51:57.12] To talk about climate change and it's kind of experimental living in this kind of [00:52:02.00] [00:52:02.00] skin which creates this big open space where you can talk to dolphins and [00:52:06.10] [00:52:06.10] whales and converse about so you have the scale of the individual on the scale of [00:52:10.20] [00:52:10.20] the collective together and different ways of being collective either through [00:52:15.13] [00:52:15.13] you know group activities group cooking lessons planning and then the private [00:52:19.13] [00:52:19.13] space is kind of defined by this inflatable wall which changes all covered [00:52:24.10] [00:52:24.10] solar panels All right the last project I'm going to show is an ongoing project. [00:52:28.18] [00:52:30.09] Where we take a lot of these kind of more theoretical ideas about how [00:52:33.14] [00:52:33.14] infrastructure and systems and [00:52:35.01] [00:52:35.01] ecology can come together it's for the north to the library in Colorado. [00:52:39.06] [00:52:40.10] But it was an amazing place. [00:52:41.20] [00:52:43.03] Not in the mountains but it was actually in the high desert which we didn't know so [00:52:47.14] [00:52:47.14] the snow melts pretty quickly there and it's right at the edge of the mountains so [00:52:52.03] [00:52:52.03] boulders up there incredible site right at the edge of the mountains and [00:52:55.23] [00:52:55.23] here you see boulders also very quirky granola kind of place. [00:53:00.03] [00:53:01.15] And we think this diagram kind of encapsulates Boulder it's basically it's [00:53:05.14] [00:53:05.14] a kind of place where everything that you would think is supposed to be horizontal [00:53:08.13] [00:53:08.13] is turned 90 degrees vertical basically so and the people are kind of like that too [00:53:12.14] [00:53:12.14] like they're always a bit 90 degrees to what you expect. [00:53:15.10] [00:53:17.20] And they're history it's a very rough environment I mean [00:53:20.18] [00:53:20.18] you don't get the snow but you have the incredible winds you know flooding. [00:53:24.23] [00:53:26.02] You have heat you know very cold days very hot days and [00:53:30.12] [00:53:30.12] if you look at the old buildings with the pioneers you know they really rough [00:53:34.22] [00:53:34.22] which is interesting and not only were they really rough you can see like [00:53:38.04] [00:53:38.04] the furthest they could take a stone was like 100 feet you know so it's really they [00:53:42.16] [00:53:42.16] built with what was there so it has it's a you know it's a city where. [00:53:47.12] [00:53:49.01] Interaction with nature is part of everyday life and [00:53:52.02] [00:53:52.02] it's not just in the residential buildings we found all these kind of buildings [00:53:56.06] [00:53:56.06] you know that there was a lot of [00:53:58.15] [00:53:58.15] capitalist exploitation let's say mineral extraction that happened in Colorado. [00:54:03.15] [00:54:04.22] But what was interesting is also the relationship even in these very [00:54:07.23] [00:54:07.23] exploitation to very manmade. [00:54:10.13] [00:54:12.03] You know human processes that also had a really interesting relationship with [00:54:15.11] [00:54:15.11] the land not only built into the side of the the cliff but [00:54:18.21] [00:54:18.21] they use gravity for the industrial system so instead of a. [00:54:22.09] [00:54:23.09] You know a whatever it's called rolling treadmill thing. [00:54:26.20] [00:54:28.14] Basically material would come in at the top and then you would use gravity as it [00:54:32.01] [00:54:32.01] got processed and come out the bottom so also we thought you know can we [00:54:36.00] [00:54:36.00] create buildings that do that have this same really interesting relationship with [00:54:39.07] [00:54:39.07] natural systems but that are using it for sustainability and [00:54:44.06] [00:54:44.06] then we found this local architect heartening amazing architect did these [00:54:48.03] [00:54:48.03] incredible houses he did that house that's in the Woody Allen movie. [00:54:50.23] [00:54:52.03] The space movie. [00:54:53.02] [00:54:54.18] Sleeper maybe I don't know Woody Allen me too I don't know never mind. [00:54:59.23] [00:55:01.00] You guys don't know it was kind of funny but anyway hotlink designed all these [00:55:05.08] [00:55:05.08] buildings also this is one of his houses that's not [00:55:09.09] [00:55:09.09] a satellite dish that's actually an experimental solar oven that he [00:55:14.12] [00:55:14.12] built into the architecture of the house this was built and tested by NASA for [00:55:19.03] [00:55:19.03] years as a kind of way to integrate solar technology and architecture [00:55:23.22] [00:55:23.22] the light in the main library itself also has this incredible relationship with with [00:55:29.10] [00:55:29.10] with nature the old libraries on the right the new library new 175 on the left. [00:55:34.05] [00:55:35.06] Connected with this bridge so you walking you know over the creek and people [00:55:38.14] [00:55:38.14] are coming down in inner tubes it's kind of an amazing place this is the site for [00:55:42.12] [00:55:42.12] a library. [00:55:43.02] [00:55:44.08] It's a kind of warehouse district that's changing into a kind of an arts district [00:55:49.01] [00:55:49.01] there's also these kind of condos there the site itself is right on one of [00:55:53.02] [00:55:53.02] the creeks but out of the flood plain which is great with these incredible views [00:55:57.10] [00:55:57.10] at the foot hills and what's called the Flat Iron Mountains to the south and so [00:56:01.21] [00:56:01.21] the idea was to really take advantage of the site and [00:56:04.13] [00:56:04.13] to create really 2 different spaces. [00:56:07.07] [00:56:08.13] On the south big public spaces that look out to this incredible view and [00:56:13.08] [00:56:13.08] on the north where it's the edge with the residential community close spaces. [00:56:18.06] [00:56:19.08] That are a little bit lower in scale a little bit more residential scale and [00:56:23.18] [00:56:23.18] to kind of create a building that uses the 2 spaces together. [00:56:26.23] [00:56:28.22] And obviously we. [00:56:30.21] [00:56:30.21] Well explain that later I guess and position the building in [00:56:35.06] [00:56:35.06] such a way that we wouldn't impact the views of the neighbors so [00:56:38.23] [00:56:38.23] it's a building that takes its form from the site in plan but then also uses [00:56:43.09] [00:56:43.09] those angles in section to put its highest point centered with the street so [00:56:48.06] [00:56:48.06] that it's not blocking the buildings so you have this big civic expansion and [00:56:51.12] [00:56:51.12] then it steps down towards the residential in the back in the front it's all clad in [00:56:56.06] [00:56:56.06] in zinc and in the back it is. [00:57:00.03] [00:57:01.06] Green roof and you can use that green roof so [00:57:03.23] [00:57:03.23] libraries Nowadays it's not really about books in fact this is our library and [00:57:08.00] [00:57:08.00] client says you know if a book is on a shelf in the library that means it's not [00:57:11.10] [00:57:11.10] in someone's house so why do we have it and so he for [00:57:14.22] [00:57:14.22] him it's about a space for community the main library has a fab lab where people [00:57:20.02] [00:57:20.02] can go what we're going to do here is a kind of maker kitchen where people can. [00:57:24.18] [00:57:26.00] Do bottling or canning small scale food preparation can take cooking classes [00:57:30.19] [00:57:30.19] can learn about new ways to integrate food we're going to community gardens so [00:57:34.10] [00:57:34.10] that will be available and then huge amounts of meeting space for [00:57:37.08] [00:57:37.08] community groups and a literacy program for non-native speakers so [00:57:41.03] [00:57:41.03] it's really a community center as much as a library and you can access all those [00:57:44.18] [00:57:44.18] community programs by walking up the roof and going in the 2nd floor so [00:57:48.01] [00:57:48.01] we can close off the library at the ground floor after hours and then to really work [00:57:54.02] [00:57:54.02] with sustainable system so the green roof part we're using a lot of concrete and [00:57:58.09] [00:57:58.09] a lot of heavy masonry materials to utilize the thermal mass so [00:58:02.08] [00:58:02.08] that will heat up during the day with the big windows facing south and [00:58:05.05] [00:58:05.05] then give off the heat at night because it is like I said the high desert and [00:58:09.03] [00:58:09.03] we're going to have it or passively ventilated so [00:58:11.11] [00:58:11.11] no air conditioning system we're putting in to collect the cold air and [00:58:17.01] [00:58:17.01] then those chimneys at the front are actually [00:58:19.20] [00:58:19.20] going to be glass chimneys that heat up the air to draw it through the building so [00:58:24.13] [00:58:24.13] to be cooled as it goes underground and then heated up and [00:58:26.19] [00:58:26.19] drawn out through the building and what we're trying to do is make a. [00:58:30.10] [00:58:30.10] All these systems visible so people can see them so [00:58:32.13] [00:58:32.13] this would be net 0 hopefully we're going to work on the embodied energy as well as [00:58:37.04] [00:58:37.04] photovoltaics on the roof the idea is that the building and nature and [00:58:41.05] [00:58:41.05] sustainability kind of all interact together so here's the softness out and [00:58:46.17] [00:58:46.17] you know because we have those big chimneys you need a lot of air to move [00:58:49.12] [00:58:49.12] through those chimneys so we have a 5 foot thick wall and then like we do in many [00:58:53.08] [00:58:53.08] of our projects utilize the thickness in other ways to create shaded areas for [00:58:57.21] [00:58:57.21] the windows to create planters balconies we have a little greenhouse built into one [00:59:02.11] [00:59:02.11] of them bookshelves communicated we have a playground for [00:59:06.03] [00:59:06.03] the kids of course here and a digital booth of course. [00:59:10.08] [00:59:11.08] So when the kids own you can climb up through the facade and [00:59:13.21] [00:59:13.21] then slide down the slide so [00:59:16.01] [00:59:16.01] this is what the model looks like here you see how it steps down to the back. [00:59:18.19] [00:59:19.22] And how it into integrated into the landscape and [00:59:23.17] [00:59:23.17] there are you can get on the roof we're using timber construction in the back. [00:59:27.23] [00:59:30.12] And that's that project that's it thank you. [00:59:33.01] [00:59:42.02] Yeah. [00:59:42.14] [00:59:43.14] I'm good. [00:59:44.03] [00:59:56.18] Yeah. [00:59:57.06] [01:00:15.18] Yeah the question is how we come up with ideas. [01:00:18.07] [01:00:20.17] Yeah I mean I think. [01:00:21.22] [01:00:23.17] I don't know ideas or you guys have good ideas too I mean I think that what we do [01:00:28.20] [01:00:28.20] is we talk a lot at the beginning and we do a lot of research and thinking. [01:00:34.13] [01:00:36.00] To kind of we basically to push the design process as far out as possible and [01:00:41.15] [01:00:41.15] do a lot of thinking about the project and about the client about the site about [01:00:46.20] [01:00:46.20] the history of the things that we're working on and just we talk we collaborate [01:00:52.00] [01:00:52.00] my partner Amal and I work together on every project and a lot of it is in [01:00:56.11] [01:00:56.11] our back and forth talking and we've talked about so many projects and you know [01:01:00.15] [01:01:00.15] sometimes it'll be ideas that we had for one party we try to bring to another but [01:01:04.12] [01:01:04.12] we talk it through and then we bring the rest of the office and we make models [01:01:07.18] [01:01:08.18] what we become what we find is when you when you can't [01:01:13.23] [01:01:13.23] sell sometimes you can't get an idea just by having a blank idea so [01:01:19.05] [01:01:19.05] when we come to kind of crossroads like that then we start making models and [01:01:24.01] [01:01:24.01] just looking at what what it looks like you know and sometimes we can come up with [01:01:29.05] [01:01:29.05] something just by looking at the model or sometimes looking at the model we built [01:01:33.01] [01:01:33.01] the model because the one idea about a relationship between different spaces but [01:01:37.03] [01:01:37.03] actually it looks like something else and then we go back and change the idea. [01:01:40.06] [01:01:41.22] The biggest thing though is having deadlines [01:01:44.08] [01:01:44.08] very good the pressure of a deadline perfect you know so [01:01:48.05] [01:01:48.05] basically we just keep doing that until we have a deadline and then we panic and [01:01:52.13] [01:01:52.13] go with what we have so it's kind of what it is and you know I think it's also not. [01:01:57.08] [01:01:58.19] It's very nerve racking being an architect because in the back of your mind you're [01:02:02.01] [01:02:02.01] thinking like what if. [01:02:03.20] [01:02:03.20] We never do any other building you know like one of those the last time somebody [01:02:07.09] [01:02:07.09] asked us to do it and [01:02:08.18] [01:02:08.18] oftentimes it'll be the last time they ask you to do that kind of building you know. [01:02:12.12] [01:02:13.21] And so there is that kind of panic that like we have to do everything [01:02:18.22] [01:02:18.22] absolute best but we try to tamp that as much as possible and [01:02:22.23] [01:02:22.23] just reassure ourselves this is just one thing let's just do what we think is [01:02:27.07] [01:02:27.07] cool and fun and this don't try to do everything like have a very clear idea and [01:02:31.11] [01:02:31.11] then we bring the clients in very early also and kind of sell them on the idea so [01:02:36.11] [01:02:36.11] that we all have something to focus on when the inevitable budget [01:02:41.15] [01:02:41.15] planning department building code you know lame donor you know all these [01:02:47.08] [01:02:47.08] forces are going to come to try to change your ideas but if we are all on board with [01:02:52.05] [01:02:52.05] a good idea from the beginning and it's simple enough and you know it's kind of [01:02:55.03] [01:02:55.03] like Ok we got it you know the 2nd floor is going to be where the community spaces [01:02:59.15] [01:02:59.15] then it's very hard to knock that down and also when you're doing budgeting we always [01:03:03.18] [01:03:03.18] try to combine let's say the big idea with the more generic spaces like don't care so [01:03:09.05] [01:03:09.05] much in this area you know we can just do a concrete floor there and [01:03:13.13] [01:03:13.13] it will be cool so that we can focus our efforts where it's going to be [01:03:17.17] [01:03:17.17] had the biggest impact on people's experiences or [01:03:21.02] [01:03:21.02] the way the building functions or or the space or you know so [01:03:25.21] [01:03:25.21] I don't know that's it's hard to totally explain experience the cool [01:03:31.03] [01:03:31.03] thing about architecture is I have this slide that compares Frank Gehry to. [01:03:35.00] [01:03:36.23] 2. [01:03:37.11] [01:03:39.23] There via the guy's name I can remember Kurt Cobain Kurt Cobain you know and [01:03:46.12] [01:03:46.12] basically we could Cobain commits suicide having achieved all he achieved in his [01:03:50.14] [01:03:50.14] rockstar life Frank Gehry decides to go to architecture school at that age 27 or [01:03:55.07] [01:03:55.07] whatever it was so and then you know he built his house when he was like 45 and [01:04:00.06] [01:04:00.06] he did when he was 16 so [01:04:05.01] [01:04:05.01] unlike a rock star we have lots of time so you know that you can kind of convince [01:04:09.09] [01:04:09.09] yourself that you're going to be a great architect all the way till you have [01:04:12.15] [01:04:12.15] grandchildren and at that point who cares you're just go on going retire so [01:04:17.14] [01:04:17.14] that's cool thing but I thought I had to say to students but I think for me it's [01:04:20.19] [01:04:20.19] kind of liberating I mean it's great to be a young architect at 45 you know like. [01:04:24.20] [01:04:26.04] You know nobody calls a young rock star young rock star at 45 that's for sure. [01:04:29.16] [01:04:58.07] So you know the favorite project thing it's interesting because [01:05:03.01] [01:05:03.01] the favorite project is always the newest project because that's you're thinking [01:05:07.03] [01:05:07.03] about that all the time but I didn't sometimes show the dog house but [01:05:12.05] [01:05:12.05] honestly our 1st that's our 1st project and we still love it it's still in a way [01:05:15.18] [01:05:15.18] our favorite project because in that tiny little stupid project the never got built [01:05:20.13] [01:05:20.13] is all these ideas about like what it's like to be in a city what it's like to be [01:05:25.00] [01:05:25.00] in nature what it's like to use technology to kind of. [01:05:28.18] [01:05:29.23] You know that don't be so precious about nature like nature can be on a video [01:05:33.17] [01:05:33.17] screen it's Ok you know to think big even though you're working small. [01:05:37.13] [01:05:39.00] So to think about animals and you know non humans and [01:05:43.06] [01:05:43.06] what their role in the world is so that remains one of our favorite projects. [01:05:47.19] [01:05:49.15] I think p.s. one was another moment up until p.s. [01:05:53.01] [01:05:53.01] one we had to organize our career on 5 year plans [01:05:56.19] [01:05:56.19] the 1st plan was called Say yes to everything because we had just come out of [01:06:00.20] [01:06:00.20] May we never we didn't know what we were going to do as architects. [01:06:03.12] [01:06:04.14] We were totally brainwashed by Rem and like we didn't know who we were. [01:06:08.17] [01:06:10.11] It was fun and so we said you know we can either be ivory tower academics and [01:06:17.15] [01:06:17.15] just do competitions and work our style out like that or [01:06:22.18] [01:06:22.18] we can just go out in the world and just do whatever and work it out like that so [01:06:26.05] [01:06:26.05] we said Ok we're going to be called work really do the work we're going to say yes [01:06:29.13] [01:06:29.13] to everything give us your doghouse give us your bathroom for 5 years we did that [01:06:34.14] [01:06:34.14] what was funny was like at year one somebody asked us to teach and [01:06:39.04] [01:06:39.04] then we see and now I'm always a dean and like I teach all the time so [01:06:42.03] [01:06:42.03] we were more like we're probably more our people than the other but whatever. [01:06:46.11] [01:06:48.06] So but p.s. one was the 1st moment where we were not just responding [01:06:52.16] [01:06:52.16] to stimuli where we were able to say this is what we're interested in and [01:06:57.12] [01:06:57.12] we're going to build it you know because we have this opportunity so [01:07:00.07] [01:07:00.07] for us that's also a favorite project so the advice is do that it's. [01:07:04.12] [01:07:06.01] Then Vice is. [01:07:06.22] [01:07:08.08] Yeah it's kind of like what I was saying before I mean I don't think [01:07:11.05] [01:07:11.05] architects have very worried about things you know we try not to worry about things. [01:07:16.04] [01:07:19.07] Yeah. [01:07:19.19] [01:07:27.21] Yeah we write the book so. [01:07:30.21] [01:07:32.03] The title of the book is. [01:07:34.11] [01:07:37.17] Well get there when we cross that bridge. [01:07:39.10] [01:07:40.16] Which is something that. [01:07:41.17] [01:07:43.01] I'm most not a native English speaker she speaks perfectly well but [01:07:46.20] [01:07:46.20] sometimes she says things like we'll get there when we cross that bridge [01:07:49.23] [01:07:49.23] which is not the correct thing to say but she said it and [01:07:54.00] [01:07:54.00] we were like well that's an amazing thing to say and so. [01:07:56.04] [01:07:57.07] So we called our book will get there were across that bridge. [01:07:59.17] [01:08:00.18] Instead of across that bridge when we get there. [01:08:02.10] [01:08:03.23] And the book is a celebration of 10 years of working originally but [01:08:08.14] [01:08:08.14] it took us 5 years to do so it's a celebration of 15 years of work in a city. [01:08:11.19] [01:08:13.13] And it's a conversation like I was saying we we work through conversation so [01:08:18.04] [01:08:18.04] the book is a conversation between them all and I looking at issues like I did [01:08:21.23] [01:08:21.23] today with these 5 but looking at 10 different issues and just talking through [01:08:25.23] [01:08:25.23] our work and sometimes our life and our kids are in the book and [01:08:29.13] [01:08:29.13] just the combination of how to live a creative life and be an architect. [01:08:33.08] [01:08:34.17] And then it's interspersed with projects where it's just pictures [01:08:39.02] [01:08:39.02] mostly just pictures of one project that we think exemplifies that topic that we're [01:08:43.09] [01:08:43.09] talking about and that was really fun to do and then we also a couple people from [01:08:48.00] [01:08:48.00] the office participated so there are conversations between 3 of us. [01:08:51.18] [01:08:52.20] And the book basically just tells the story of the 15 years it is divided into [01:08:56.03] [01:08:56.03] the 35 year plans. [01:08:57.12] [01:08:59.02] And it's available on Amazon $35.00. [01:09:02.13] [01:09:05.15] So that was and is a lot of color and [01:09:06.23] [01:09:06.23] it was also a great collaboration with a graphic designer Neil Donnelly. [01:09:09.22] [01:09:11.08] Who is normally like very Swiss but [01:09:13.08] [01:09:13.08] we convinced him to be a little bit more mellow in his graphic design. [01:09:18.18] [01:09:32.18] Yeah. [01:09:33.06] [01:09:37.02] Yeah this is net 0 but this is our 1st net 0 building. [01:09:40.10] [01:09:41.23] And we are. [01:09:44.22] [01:09:46.10] So we work with engineers quite closely we unfortunately the great sustainability [01:09:53.03] [01:09:53.03] people that we work with are too expensive for most of our projects we are really [01:09:58.02] [01:09:58.02] thinking this is one thing we're thinking through that don't want to present but [01:10:00.20] [01:10:00.20] we're wondering whether we can have that expertise in-house instead. [01:10:04.21] [01:10:06.14] Because we think that this is the way to go so I mean this is our 1st [01:10:11.06] [01:10:12.12] net 0 building it would be great if it was our last you know the one before was our [01:10:16.20] [01:10:16.20] last not 0 building but now Net 0 is not necessarily [01:10:21.14] [01:10:21.14] enough I mean I think we need to also look at embodied energy and materials and [01:10:25.14] [01:10:25.14] social equity and so and ways to measure that in projects so [01:10:30.10] [01:10:30.10] moving forward we want to run the data more we want to be more wonky about that. [01:10:35.05] [01:10:36.16] Without losing design because I think that [01:10:39.15] [01:10:39.15] most people who are performing at the highest level of sustainability and. [01:10:43.21] [01:10:45.03] Modeling and are not doing very nice projects or [01:10:49.23] [01:10:49.23] the projects the distain ability is the thing that is not integrated within [01:10:54.08] [01:10:54.08] the design so for us it's also important to use it as inspiration for new forms and [01:10:59.01] [01:10:59.01] new spaces and new experiences so that's where we're going to I guess yeah. [01:11:06.15] [01:11:12.04] Yes you have to be although you know on this project [01:11:16.08] [01:11:16.08] we felt that our sustainability and b.p. [01:11:20.00] [01:11:20.00] consultants were not performing so we went through all the schematic design which was [01:11:23.09] [01:11:23.09] an extended 12 months committed design for planning purposes planning review process. [01:11:27.23] [01:11:28.23] And realize that they weren't doing it right and [01:11:33.16] [01:11:33.16] we fired them and we we and we hired new engineers and [01:11:37.12] [01:11:37.12] we put in the money to make up the difference in the fee. [01:11:40.13] [01:11:41.21] Because we really want this to be and that you know so the earth docs and [01:11:46.05] [01:11:46.05] all that are coming in like just in the last 3 months but [01:11:48.23] [01:11:48.23] we know it's super important we have a client who really believes in it [01:11:52.08] [01:11:52.08] with the city of Boulder so the boulder is only doing that 0 projects. [01:11:55.21] [01:11:57.12] So yes so even though the engineers were involved the beginning and [01:12:00.06] [01:12:00.06] we lost sight of it at some point and we had to recalibrate and [01:12:04.17] [01:12:04.17] it's a little bit difficult but we're kind of going backwards now a little bit but [01:12:09.10] [01:12:09.10] did it's best if they are you know. [01:12:11.10] [01:12:23.00] More and more it's a given. [01:12:25.16] [01:12:26.23] I think especially at the Civic civic scale. [01:12:30.17] [01:12:32.11] So. [01:12:32.23] [01:12:34.17] And we're working with to inspire we're working with a big developer we're doing [01:12:38.00] [01:12:38.00] an office building. [01:12:39.05] [01:12:40.05] In San Francisco Luckily it's in San Francisco where they are very cognizant [01:12:45.14] [01:12:45.14] of that of those aspects is not going to be No 0 per se but we will have a black [01:12:51.01] [01:12:51.01] water treatment plant in our building it's a complex of 14 buildings and [01:12:56.05] [01:12:56.05] we'll be processing black water in our building which is very cool so [01:13:00.14] [01:13:00.14] even you know those kind of people you might not think are thinking about it [01:13:05.09] [01:13:05.09] are thinking about it I think we need to educate people and [01:13:08.17] [01:13:08.17] it's you know it's out there children are petrified you know and [01:13:12.23] [01:13:12.23] I think anyone who has kids they're starting to think about it no matter what [01:13:16.18] [01:13:16.18] they do in their in their business so you know but. [01:13:21.17] [01:13:23.01] What was I going to say I was going to say that we had a big talk about ethics last [01:13:27.01] [01:13:27.01] night at a dinner. [01:13:28.06] [01:13:29.15] And whether you can be an ethical architect when you say no to a project. [01:13:33.08] [01:13:35.12] And I'm writing an article right now I'm reviewing the there's a new mall of [01:13:40.01] [01:13:40.01] America in New Jersey. [01:13:42.04] [01:13:43.20] With an architect and I asked about sustainability it's huge I mean it's [01:13:48.12] [01:13:48.12] 6000000 square feet and he said well our client doesn't care about sustainability [01:13:52.05] [01:13:52.05] so there's no you know this is an ice rink in it and a water park and [01:13:55.19] [01:13:55.19] like all these things you could probably do cool stuff with. [01:13:58.19] [01:14:00.15] You know and I think if I had a project like that would I do you know what I [01:14:03.19] [01:14:03.19] do it and I hope that we would say No luckily no one's asked us. [01:14:08.12] [01:14:11.07] But I think you have to you have to draw the line sometimes [01:14:14.12] [01:14:14.12] especially at that scale you know someone else has to renovate their apartment and [01:14:18.09] [01:14:18.09] they don't care you know they want to use you know. [01:14:21.08] [01:14:22.18] They want extra air conditioning I think you know it's less of an ethical issue but [01:14:28.16] [01:14:28.16] still a discussion. [01:14:29.21] [01:14:34.21] I want to remind everybody we are such hoping they are starting right now the. [01:14:38.15] [01:14:39.15] Green project I'm working hard on his back from Barcelona so. [01:14:43.05] [01:14:44.07] What's a game that everybody has to go upstairs to get Sophie and you know a. [01:14:51.12]