Taken aback by.

His Yes.

Three his size.

That would.

We have three of three of us who are going
to talk about doing science fiction here.

M J to lots of professors in L. and C. and

to my right is the first Elisa yardstick
the undergraduate director in a legacy and

to my left is Professor Professor of the
profession of practice practice practice.

GAFFIGAN.

One of one of our most noted
science fiction authors and

someone who has lent her presence here and

her felt most of students in all sorts
of interesting ways but the West is.

Just like you.

And so we'll each offer a little
bit of insight into what we do and

then we'll we'll also.

Far do you decide to want to go.

With some of the implications of this
interest is still a synthetic logical

concerns programatic
concerns that like to share.

So look and also a lot of time I hope for

some comments and
questions that separate so.

Who might one of my doing here.

I've been a Georgia Tech for
thirty plus years.

In Joost films those to
the curriculum here.

My focus has generally
been on films jobless.

Especially John was a fantasy my first.

It was really about a fantasy film.

That can afford it who never saw
the light of day to my hands up

through the walls something unusual and
then.

Science fiction and fact since.

The early one nine hundred ninety S..

Science fiction.

And it's focused generally
on the relationship between.

Human image and technology or
the way in which.

Science fiction is and like the lives
of the city media and just to get your

sense of the kinds of things that I
do I'll just hold up some books and

throw the images of books
there you know this is.

Now and I make of it back to get

us out of this is the sum of all
replications with the clever

subtitle A robotic history of
a science fiction film and

what was trying to do is take something so
fundamental fill in those little movies

all essentially technology was a human and
it.

Could be an interesting way of also about
science fiction and its intersections

with movies because science fiction
is here from the very start.

In the eighteen eyes you only have.

Science fiction.

As a lot of others I use that as a as
a trooper tracing out the whole history

of both science fiction and.

My school.

This one is a distant technology
in about five years after that and

it's it's about science fiction
as it becomes a measure of

of the difficulty modern culture
had becoming technologically.

And that is it's of openness.

The periods of government hundreds
in one nine hundred forty and

what I've tried to do is to
look at how different cultures.

That.

Of technology and met them and

now are ties them in so
either the Russian.

French British German and
American science fiction.

There all.

This was simply called the science fiction
bill that's how science fiction film or.

Whether it's narrative types of what kinds
of stories do we tell that out of what

the Spanish translation because
it's got that a couple of.

American interests such as follows what
Cambridge University present in Haiti

which is really the land office but
as soon as they turned it over to the to

the Spanish publisher of
the there's much nicer.

And more recently.

Of the hold of this way
of science fiction T.V..

What is science fiction like on total and.

What's it's his group.

Or the history of talk about this now to
Miles industrial models in those things

that were forced on it because of
the very nature of television and.

Of.

Generic narratives as different
types of large physical fine and

of the forms of science fiction.

And other that the cultural issues
are that the audience and then.

Speculate on where it's going so what's
going to tackle the science fiction on.

So that's where are the.

Most recently I guess this is much more.

He soon as we do now sort of.

Stuff will be interesting.

More recently.

I've been I've been working in areas
that I guess you might I like to

generally try and this is probably
too generous with my general.

Likes and generously.

Media Ecology.

And there's various ways in which.

The film text for
example of simply is out and

affects other things and
her second part of things a little while.

And so one simple example is
something that was initially

few months ago that he saw on
global science fiction cinema.

But the global science fiction
cinema text as a multiple tests and

as a case study I tried to look at or.

What are called M.L.C.
it's multiple language for.

What happens when you
when you make a text and

then redo it and redo it and
redo it for different cultures and

you use different languages and
we're not talking about simply putting in

the soundtrack I'm not talking about
dubbing which is pretty commonplace but

rather a practice that was popular
nineteen about nineteen twenty nine to

about ninety five where you
actually really shocking talk.

With you pass speaking in
different languages sometimes

with different director.

But all using the same sets using the same
basic script or at least a lot of and

using some of the same
which was not all the same.

And unsurprisingly.

The films.

While there they all had to be
grouped under one heading as this film

when you look at the.

Google's inflections they
get from the White fifty.

Another is.

Considering how advertising affects
our sense of the film to us.

And might like a study in this instance
is has been one nine hundred fifty S.

science fiction advertising
print out the tossing social.

Lobby cards posters newspaper and
magazine advertised.

And focusing on the same kinds of films.

Films that wound up
having not surprisingly

very much the same kind of advertising.

And yet the advertising almost never
coincided with the films of cells and

so on would give that
sufficient junction between.

The discourse that was put out
out the film and the actual film

as all of these saw and
perhaps not surprisingly at least three or

four cases of the reviewers of
the period they noticed that

they noticed there was something different
between what they were led to expect and

what they what they actually got to see
and they told old readers about that.

And the more recently.

And I guess I'm a.

Little embarrassed because it seems
like them might be going back and

just.

Excavated simple material.

But because of them in this notion of.

Which is there should be
colleges back in London and.

What.

Those off the bleachers media policy
is that is the cultural need.

And of a cultural meaning is a night.

Here a concept that attaches to.

Perhaps a popular text like film.

But it's something that is that's

characterized according to
Richard Dawkins who came up with the.

Idea what it was that is
characterized by what we calls.

For Delhi and that is the same image
you're seeing kind of saying watching

characters will show up over and
over it's characterized by the hundreds.

And as its ability to inspire.

Other texts and who wrote.

And create viable variations and

then longevity or.

Brisebois of course the list persists
as certain things just persist and

so what I've got interested in is
the persistence of certain kinds of

science fiction.

Science fiction.

And I'm focusing in on three
different persistent figures and.

How they work cross media.

And.

How they have been inflicted on
the experience of science but.

I guess the other thing we're supposed
to talk about in some way is.

What sets and
this is Carol Grace what's at stake here.

I'm not sure exactly what's at stake.

I know why I'm doing these things.

And there's no one it's almost like
we have the choice to be interested

in science fiction.

We inhabit it pointedly
science fiction world stays

we're surrounded by science
fiction texts and we need.

MAKE SENSE OF THEM BOTH are individual.

Hopeful health and.

Because science which is one
of the jobs of choice today.

Everyone's doing something that should.

Have read the details of that later.

It's also become one of the key forms for
addressing on most pressing issues

which ultimately technological
connect it seems and

we need to understand how it formulates or
something we formulate So those issues.

Just as a very brief note of
consumer the various reality T.V.

shows of adopting the language and
images and

the basic concerns of science
fiction shows like Egypt aliens or

you have The Chaser's of unexplained
files or more good things to worm hole or

dark matters that separate.

Signs to the longer
just that our docs are.

Fictional science.

Science and reality science fictional.

Would go look at what how did we.

Learn those borders.

Was so what we are addressing these
concerns is is really what's at stake in.

My own work with science fiction and
it's just strikes me as what the very

fundamental purposes of Georgia
is addressing those issues.

So that's my goal.

You're going to do the.

Literature.

On a certain rock
undergraduate study once I'm

past present the science fiction
Research Center which is the science

it's the oldest organization national
organization that a serious study science.

A cross media.

Title was made up from.

The director of Riot Act which is.

To talk about the different
kinds of science.

That we're doing.

Or I got.

Some got here and then.

This is my research labs and

right now the rite of passage which
is that that pertains to protect.

The lives of science which is the great.

Research together by a science fiction.

Story.

It's it's a sense of global
language that allows

talk about the experience of science and
technology across centuries cause.

It's so.

I brought books as well.

As my lord so.

I know I don't write.

So my first book The self.

Which has a plain and
simple cover but that's OK.

With science to make sense of.

Science

so.

It's actually.

Done To Me So this is something.

Very For once again this is actually
the print edition which sadly

is.

Going to talk about all of it
is glad it's a great cover.

Story for you.

And the financial never got out.

But a number of women were involved and
in fact some of you might know on.

A mentor other young.

Testified to Congress that this was for
men because they weigh less.

These are just wasn't
talking about them but

what I'm looking at here is how women
abuse science fiction to participate.

In traditionally feminine boys
as homemakers as wives and

mothers and other girls as
the scientists and artists so

let's go like this without
looking at this is.

Science fiction or so
prior to the end of science.

This kind of work very much
anticipated still with.

Another thing that I'm working on
I think it's interesting I don't

I don't look just at.

People and
closely related to the science fiction.

Artist I also like to
look at how scientists.

Use science fiction so

few years ago Little Richard Clarke
notes because he was.

Skilled oratory research
mapping representations of.

Scientific and public policy grounds.

On thinking experience.

And nanoscience from.

Us to.

Those disciplines some of the.

Different ways we approach.

Science everything around
we started assumption

that his ideas start science and
public policy out of the popular culture.

At the time we were done with this we
realized it was completely backwards and

the authors had been talking about
this for about three years because.

Actually in the studio with the technology
we're drawing on science fictional

representations of small
scale I thought of the scene.

So obviously.

I don't have to say about that.

But research is.

Actually about the transformation of
science studies in a digital age and

I don't have as many as fortunate so

one of the main areas I'm
working in right now is.

Just black speculative.

Work began by looking at African-American
Diaspora science fiction but

right now I'm working on African science
but it's a pretty recent phenomenon

as one of the history of science in many
other countries China's science which.

Is Brazil's goes back to thirty.

African science which is
about thirty years old but

it has exploded it's very much.

There are very few countries.

Which as a science fiction.

Most countries support the science
science fiction publishing So

you see a lot of collaboration.

Editors talk about it's been a really kind
of mind blowing experience because outfits

are so diverse that it's very trite.

But what's really cool is that when asked
by that's what languages do you know.

Much about it it's easy to find
out all about science fiction

it's very much a digital.

Science and Technology Science Fiction so
much of this is published.

It's not it's published.

Very fine and authors and
texts that you can go.

On you know make friends with
there's a lot of actually

takes place in venues like the online
social network sites that.

Which is Facebook for
people who like livestock.

And of course in Second Life that
they've done it five continents really.

Led by.

God still.

Loves.

Science so that's will stop.

The other thing I'm working on right now
so that's looking at the present and

maybe the future the other thing I'm doing
is using tools and technologies to look

backwards and the science fiction archives
the College of Science Fiction magazine so

I would say and I think this is a movement
right now in science fiction to look at

how science fiction is produced not
just by a few authors of books but

is a more interactive dynamic one
that happens across was right so

in this book for instance I started
it because once I put out and

I didn't go back to suburbia a number
of editors said you should really

do a critical anthology of stories because
they're not excessively I said that's

wrong that you're nuts but when I went
into the archives and started looking at

this what I realized of the stories were
only a fraction of the story so to speak

that you know women are working not just
for the production of fiction but since

the beginning of the scientific community
they've been working with editors

about how it's a back bencher of science
fiction poetry if you're not here with

that maybe not one of our finest moments
of history I'd say but that's OK.

And what else do you do
outside such an illustration.

Science Journalism some of that really is
science journalism America's actually done

by a science fiction magazine and
an interesting one that one of the women

working in that was tailored
to also invented the genre.

Right so all of those mind.

Works Yeah that's because of the women
I want to delete sort of it's been

great stories.

More.

Stories on women there's
a lot of women in the.

World is an instance of
just science fiction It.

Was a.

So there's not a lot of
time to work on the.

Women in the beginning.

I really couldn't do this kind
of work it's different now than

it was my storybook project years ago and
it would not have been five

years ago really need to have the digital
tools the first time digitized

it's easier to get to them and.

Just take photos makes
a massive difference and not.

Think about an interesting I know
there's a modern medical studies

system and the way I just got text.

By this kind of access to materials.

Science.

And so something I've started.

Well I have a piece called.

Database which looks at how digital tools
are transforming science fiction and

how to be as that sounds it's knowledge.

And I can tell you on the women's
work science fiction look.

Like a boy because we don't know.

If our research assistants were
texting us from my archives at all.

As it is but.

You know it's been such
a collaborative effort.

To talk to specialists.

So you know what I don't know about
this website this website so it's a.

Collaborative it's.

About that right and.

This is the place.

I just want science that.

I don't have to look.

OK So again what kinds of explorations.

More.

Covered why do it at all because this is.

It's.

The science that.

Everyone talks about.

And they go on.

And off with great insights and

wonderful stories it's a great
story I think it was the.

Reason.

That we.

Wanted.

To get.

As many.

Problems and you're right.

About.

The life.

Of science.

Fiction election

as.

Just.

One of the largest collections.

And science studies of life so this is a.

Site.

So full.

Of.

Science fiction studies
it's also a little.

Extra.

In the section of science technology and.

This is something.

That hasn't been about science but it's.

About.

World.

Cultures.

Or is it also the great
cultures out of science.

Learn a lot about what
Bill stands let's look at

how.

Obviously it's also important
terms of the effect

of Science Technology Art Science Fiction
is an art that's about science and

that's what So again it's just.

As you know we already.

Are working on a science
fiction in the right way your.

Next step is to identify the people who.

Work for our.

Program and
that's something we want to talk about.

And.

Yes I can link given an ancestry mentioned
I've been here since the fall of twenty.

First as a visiting professor and
there was a professor of the practice.

And I practice is the writing
of science fiction both in.

A fictional sense and in a critical sense
because I've been writing science fiction

criticism pretty much since I
started writing science fiction.

My first professional work was
published in one night and

since then I've I brought just as an
example of that is much like here you're

my office my first science
fiction novel was a jazz and

it was one of the very first
novels that were nanotechnology.

Yet and it took Rex Leary and.

An attack if any of you are familiar with.

Eric Drexler kind of visionary and
imaginative take on site

on nanotechnology versus what
became the U.S. government's.

Version of what nanotechnology is and
what it could do much more practical

it was a New York Times Notable Book and.

I went on to write a lot of questions

interviewers about is is
this really going to happen.

You know I sure hope
that I'm off to turn and

well there are giant here and.

There are there are all the American arts
that are accessed through their little.

Receptor in people's hands for various
reasons but you know let's let's hope not

which brings up the point you know does
science fiction predict the future.

Sometimes it's intimately related
to the future sometimes not but

and often it is but
in the sideways sort of way.

This is the first novel in my nanotech
quartet and I have a couple of them

I don't have presses Rhapsody I don't know
Mississippi blues I have the final one

it's like you say.

Nebula award finalists this was

a British Science Fiction Society Award
finalist.

Yes.

In war times it was my sixth Lowboy it
won the John Campbell memorial for it and

it is about it's based on my father's
World War two memoirs he was and.

Is an ordinance story or two and work he
did not help develop it but he worked.

Then top secret project grade or
short wave radio or

which a lot of people
played when the war and.

And he was also in
Germany before the render

as as part of the outpost were ready.

Invasion so it did when the.

John W. Campbell Worden then
the share dream is the follow up.

Which is my latest novel
published in twenty ten.

Dogs is a short story collection which
was published in two thousand and

eleven.

Just to remind myself this
is a partner for been.

I have a story published in
this Germany and biology and so

my stories in the halls
have been published.

They've been translated into
British English most of them and

they've been published
in France in Germany and

Russia checkers you know Poland Japan.

Russia I see Russia.

And.

Probably in a lot of places but
I really don't know about.

And.

I published about forty five short
stories in professional net such as

mobs and one of my latest stories is.

The film poetry which just came out and
I'll talk about that a little bit later

it's called Stories and visions for
a better future and it kind of builds on

lives what Jay and Lisa were talking
about in respect to the importance of

science fiction that we're back.

So I have a lot of essays every year.

Use and
interest stories online as well and

in two thousand and
two I was featured in Scientific American

as one of the champions of
the small because of my.

Science fiction work in a technology and
last summer I was in

Popular Science as one of the ten
something lines ten best minds or

whatever working in science fiction.

So in my latest academic
work is in intelligence and

down the trip of uploaded in
the mines it's supposed to have been

published by Wiley Blackwell but
it's not it will be soon in line

essay is the future of identity
implications challenges complications of

human machine consciousness and
due to too strenuous on the part

of the editors I get a free copy of
this three hundred dollar book yet so

that some point I'll actually be able to
hold it in like hand it should be pretty

interesting because it has a lot of
luminaries of the trans human it shows it

is in the United States International
which is his beard.

And fast.

In my latest short story actually one of
my latest search stories I publish for

this year it's called A Short History
of the twentieth century or

when you wish upon a star and
it's at tor dot com and

you can read it for free and
I was asked to write it because of.

Well it's tourist dotcoms
birthday in July and

I had to be about to have rockets and
first I thought

I'll have to do calculations I'll have
to be engineer like and then I thought

Now I know a lot about rockets I know
a lot about the history of life.

And so I I read it from that.

Pointed and it in its its tag as.

Fiction with science in it but not science
fiction because they're the ones kind of.

People argue about what is
science fiction all the time

it's about a young it's about a girl
whose father was a rocket scientist

in the fifty's in she wants
to be one she grows up but

she runs into all the barriers
that young women have run into.

For you know centuries in
terms of education but

you've been you know in
the fifty's being taken seriously.

And attending MIT and
having to stick it out.

And.

Yet it also actually.

Science fiction is one of my references
because it has a lot of business in it and

his.

Men and spaced series so.

So that's that's a lot of my
research is for these stories and

novels because they're heavily research.

And.

OK what I'm doing it tack is like.

Science classes about science fiction
literature which which in science

fiction film.

As well as the science
fiction unity itself

which is an interesting theory but.

Way back in hundred years
including women as well as.

More.

Women began publishing
a little bit more science.

In the early days of American science
fiction in the fifty's sixty's seventy's.

But only in the seventy's when the.

So.

And I'm also teaching creative writing and

one of my students there's
a deal undergraduate

excellence in writing science fiction or.

First prize is a free trip to Orlando.

International Conference for the fantastic
and the arts really get first prizes over

spring break first prize is five
hundred dollars one of my students

listen we're told was a and
honorable mention I encourage

all my students to send
out their becoming ball.

In the real world of publishing because
you don't have to wait till you have a lot

in everything to.

To if you're interested at all
in writing time to start sending

things out as now and
see what happens Jonathan Lethem.

Has written science fiction and
won the earth through its grant

about ten years ago didn't finish college
just went to Middlebury one year and

dropped out so
let's say that everyone dropped out but.

You know the time to the time to start
sending your work out is now and

then another student from my science
fiction class might gave the option of

writing science fiction story that
writing final story also ended that

contest did not win but
you send out contests and

now you might enter the nother house
of the future powered by fiction

in this one of ten winners and
won a thousand dollars so

you know out of the relatively few
number of students I've taught.

There are their skin that is much more
finely focused on how science fiction

can actually influence
the world around us.

So.

But but in my skin light
creative writing class we go.

Necessarily just write science
fiction I welcome all kinds of.

Fiction in my in my
creative writing class and

the students are know how
to teach fiction and that

teaches them how to write
oddly enough in their stories.

That they have all read and they see
what other people think about them.

Then the and it's part of the process of
learning think you know in a fictional

way and
think effectively as a fiction writer.

So.

That the wider picture of flow of science
fiction and Georgia Tech is that.

As a technical in Engineering University.

Science fiction is a natural link between
the two cultures of literature and

technology and science I mean it is
the link between the two cultures

science fiction is a broad spectrum
of literature science fiction whether

there is a lot of fiction that is
can be argued is science fiction but

you have to look really hard to see
the traditional tropes that one thinks of.

When we think of science
fiction aliens space travel or.

You know all of these kinds of
things like because there are so

many kinds of science fiction
that they can mysteries that.

They can.

Venture stories that they

just about anything you can think of
that's being done for literature.

Living just personal.

The personal kinds of explorations
of emotions that one thinks of

as being non science.

Often also a science.

So it's it's and the reason is is
because I think it's becoming more and

more difficult to write fiction
that does not take into account.

The technological world.

I think and perhaps it was playing
on the News Hour one night

that in her latest novel she had
to figure out how her characters

would not have a cell phone I mean she had
to think about it a lot because obviously

people have softened the plots a lot
of stories so you have to you know

fall into the boiling river of something.

So.

Science fiction.

I think is.

Explore the ethical It's a.

Ethical issues of how
we relate to technology

how it affects us how it affects us.

A lot of these things are ethical
issues that are foreground so

much of science that it is a way.

And time.

To think about how.

It is going to change us how it
changes how it has changed us how and

how things.

Are still the same humans that we were.

Years ago that's rapidly.

Implants myself and.

You know as the opportunities
arise we adapt to technology.

Eagerly and that's what's going on.

So in the end that's what
happened in the debate about.

The positioning and the end of technology.

Research and in public in the public
eye and I think that that's what's

going to happen a lot of other
technologies as well genetic engineering.

And.

Genetically modified things
just things like that.

A lot of the things that I.

Was a science fiction writer I also
you know faced with government and

business and.

A lot of different worlds in my role
as a science fiction writer once like

published land in the tech quartet I was
invited to a lot of universities speak

including Georgia Tech back in two
thousand about how nanotechnology

might affect us and.

Then I became a member of Six Sigma is
a group that consults with the government

work go consult with anyone pay us but.

It's a it's a fairly large
organization a lot a lot of

it's weighted heavily towards people
with Ph D.'s in science or technology.

Else as an English person I I have
contributed quite a lot to my first

Sigma event was the joint services
small arms project which has been

a Pentagon Committee since
the one forty's and the.

Meeting was about how we can create
futuristic weapons to fight terrorists.

It was a small meeting it's a small and
this.

May be about the same size and I started
to think about it I thought well.

You know all the science fiction
writers are about even the spare

they're probably point.

Say.

They're going to say well
it doesn't look like.

A genetic engineering.

Fight by making very loud noises and
things like this and I thought well.

In my mind her greatest weapon against
terrorism is universal literacy and

that was my talk and
they were all rather surprised but.

That's pretty much what I've done for
Cigna I went to Riyadh for

the.

Global Competitiveness Forum
in gay worry about twenty.

Twenty.

And.

The global credit in this forum is a huge
international one that Bill Gates was

a speaker at last year Bill Clinton as
you know it's been yet another year and

once again the Sigma group gave their take
on a whole bunch of different things and

again I get my talk about.

Universal literacy health gives and

wondered how we're I just
you know throw that out.

In the next week to go to Washington D.C.
or the following week for.

The book one pirate with his
teacher in the New York Times.

The day before yesterday a science
fiction writers raise your view.

And I believe everybody uses both sides.

Because it's a way of thinking about.

In our science fiction classes
sort of thing about the world and

the science way which is
probably the way that that

most people do think about about.

This.

Yes a collaboration with yours
at the State University.

And.

Science fiction writers.

Slate magazine has a book why.

The government it is a ball
of fun the White House staff.

And.

Science is.

The book want to.

Do and this is about this book is about

practical ways in which science fiction
science fiction depictions of how

we can make a better world so
in that was everybody

in the in the book tape people and so it.

Was pretty much a science fiction writer.

Got everybody interest
read up about it and so

we have science fiction writers like
Bruce Sterling is alone their future is

Elizabeth here or a doctor a well known.

JOURNALIST And so
we're always talking about how.

Science fiction can directly vision.

The ways science fiction.

Lives the world.

And again this is a big bigger picture of.

Science fiction.

Because years.

And Ellen's the students I've
been ELEANOR HALL And all.

Sides.

And the tools that they were.

Thinking about.

Are creative.

And they think man.

And I think that.

That's thinking well it's very important
they become part of where you say

science fiction that they are people
in science fiction areas it's.

Happened it's writers interface.

Writers.

Just.

So I think that science fiction.

Very well wired.

And I believe that it will help.

It will help people graduate.

And or
stay out of the leadership will only.

So that's that's about all that I'm
doing and what I'm thinking about.

The importance of science very little.

A commitment we're not where

you want to do what you want to talk
about program problematic issues and.

The growth that you know.

That's a segue for to get these comments.

Have to do with our just use
our concerns with who will

run programs in science
fiction at your subject and

what was passing out you read.

Years of a proposal or
a master's as well as for.

The month of March that I was
there that ended in a manner that

will be go it was already in place right.

Now.

So what we want to talk to you or

share with you would fight you to
share your ideas with us regarding.

This patient.

Science fiction Broadway We all end
well I prefer the program so if I could

just take a moment to get you over here
why you started to look at this I was so

I was bored and rested stuff starts on
page two but that's the narrative we got

to have to go through that I want to know
is that science fiction studies many

many universities all over the world have
faculty like us doing clusters of science

fiction in the way those
universities are about.

Any given point in time
there's about maybe ten or

twelve science fiction programs they
primarily happen at the graduate level of

the graduate miners as well so
the furthest away maybe the most

exciting is a major university has
a master's degree in science studies

actually has deliberately structured
the part and headed up by.

Right and it.

Was either a science fiction author
there's two programs of note

you paid it you know one Morgan I think
I'm pronouncing that right now I guess

Wales has a has a bachelor's
degree actually in science and

science fiction and
that's what's the Bible center for Spawn.

The other major program is the University
of Liverpool which has a well known

master's degree studies we actually
have sent rights to that program and

they now have lots of places themselves so
successful unfortunately both of the U.K.

programs are probably close
to austerity measures so

what we know that means is
that there are populations to.

Work and in fact that in
the United States there are a number of

programs that have over the last years so
for instance how the University of

Kansas has a sort of a science fiction
study they've always have that you can

specialize in science fiction
at the level that working with.

The science of.

Star Trek's forensic science
gives you a place on to

Florida Atlantic University
is on your assessment.

In science I have a master's.

Degree with.

Studies and the University of
California Riverside as it doesn't exist.

And they're currently building a minor
in that that would be the program that I

think most of us do what we're about to
graduate but we do it differently and

honestly I think that with the exception
of the well program every one of these

programs is House of traditional
department and has a fairly conventional

is based students tend to
learn about science fiction.

Critical life and
most they might take some classes.

Of science knowledge to get its house.

But not to the social sciences
if you look around the here

we have a different situation.

Situation like what we're students and

faculty can talk to scientists
as well as our scholars so

we can have them.

Built something.

I'm looking out of your life.

But also.

I don't know.

I know there are people from
computer science as well but not.

So I think something like.

This is a good time.

We have.

A very big.

Except for the fact that.

There's.

A big you left out something.

Close to my heart we're talking a little.

Like the problem because it's all
about literature that's what.

We do.

No program before.

And that's what.

Invite people to share with us.

To help build program.

We talked about this a couple
years ago collected.

All.

Our.

Or.

I think.

I've.

Just about.

Science.

Just about every.

Sites.

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About.

And that illustrated that better than.

Fall out.

Because.

You know because we are creatures
that create story talk.

Or.

Science fiction series.

Connection.

I think it's.

Like.

Almost.

All.

Their.

Work that.

He is writing.

About so.

That's along as a.

Lot of.

You got.

The second generation.

Back backlash some.

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Side with.

Their answer what it was.

Generation We also heard such a.

Story about.

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Great.

Stuff.

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actually not true as it.

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Women are allowed as a result.

So that's a story that's about one woman.

So.

That really sort of stories
this is one of the.

Millions by the way.

A lot of us see a more.

Practical reason this is the Great
Depression you have a job the best.

Job gosh it just.

So a lot of times.

That a lot of.

Sort of I don't like.

Them.

And.

I'm not so sure about.

The nuts and bolts of building old
nuts and bolts of old metaphor.

But I'm thinking about something like.

Design.

That are city.

That we think in terms of Tokyo and
it's usually the discussion

of the politics of.

The picture and

we get designers over there the best
place to help us think about what.

Should look like.

That's that's

what.

I want to mine I start.

My

list.

About what.

This is a very rough.

And yet it.

Was done.

Under.

For more constraints
resource was the ultimate.

Problem that your tech has if you wanted
something new you have to be able to

create the fiction that you
do without resources and so

you look at what you look at.

The lot of you know that.

As you look at it which is what you what
you hear in your neighborhood that you can

mobilize very quickly and that's
that's that's why again to bring this

to a group so we get better at
creating a document like that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well that's one of the richness
is that you have so

many of those things going on in.

We don't know about.

The what we have to do is to find ways
of making that richness of the old whole

while staying within the degree
constraints that you were talking

both of those how much he knew
what the cost was really.

How long it would be.

Rigid rigid.

Share Elop see he suggested that the.

Most feasible to think in terms of
something that people could do in the year

that is the most marketable type of
Masters right now and he knows that.

They get you both.

That's a.

Good think about ways.

To make something that makes
something more feasible but you also.

Don't use that which is that we will.

Have that same language.

Go get.

Your.

Start.

Up the language of science now that's

something.

That's a good

idea.

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notice that that's something.

You

know.

Or that's

video.

Of the.

Radical.

I did a collection.

Couple years ago all across the street is
what happens when you try to translate.

Science fiction.

One of the.

Interesting what happens when you
go from television to film of told.

Through the things that happened.

To a great extent in the late.

Fifty's sixty's seventy's.

Is that that even though
they were full screen media.

The screen actually stream.

Filtered off the best part of.

Television.

And that's decreasing the case
of the I think we're.

Talking.

About why it was.

So much.

Experience.

Because.

Experience has become so
attractive so what's.

The audience of all jump ship only.

The carrier streams that they carry
around with them or never ever there.

Would.

Be an

example.

Of

them.

And this is something.

That's science fiction that's.

Actually talks about the fact
that like twenty thirty

there is a.

Very widespread.

Fact.

That maybe you speak to your
question more directly and as.

I was looking at.

What's happened what's
the future of television.

Certainly one is is swinging.

Swings that.

Draws didn't because there is such a high
quality image of such high quality and

the other is interactivity.

And.

So lost interest in that output was
very taken by this series defiance

and what defiance promised is that if.

You are a devotee because of that.

And so do things on live where you
can sort of participate in narrative.

With a way of stopping this suggest ways
of stopping this particular play for

example that if you if you did or
you want to do a game online

you could actually appear with
a series they would fly to L.A.

to do it rather they actually
put people digitally.

Put a face in there is a want to post
this person's face this is a person who

while online.

So they're all sorts of ways
of the digital opening up.

And rendering our whole experience of
science fiction science fictional.

Well I think.

That.

I actually.

I think they were in Lord.

Lord.

But there are a lot of.

Yeah so we started.

Yet.

In the.

Dark.

Century.

Pretext for.

This is Alfred he was connected with his

science.

So yes.

I did.

Real.

We did find.

All kinds of very.

Much.

So so yeah.

A lot a lot of you know there's.

All of those.

Physics.

Evolutionary science.

Lately.

That's right.

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Rates.

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