Please help me give a warm Georgia Tech Welcome thank you thank you. THANK YOU afternoon. Wait let me give you my best side OK. Are you all today. How many of you have ever flown on Southwest Airlines I realize wow well thank you very much I I realize I'm in the Lion's Den One of our competitors being in in Atlanta today. But I'm actually very pleased to see that many hands go up so I do really appreciate that we value every customer at Southwest Airlines I thank you very much. Southwest Airlines. Has a rich history. We started in one nine hundred seventy one it we actually many of you may not know this but we started on the back of a cocktail napkin over a drink between our two founders Raul and King and Herb Kelleher. And if you've read anything about Southwest Airlines or about Herb Kelleher you know that that would be perfectly normal to have a concept start over a drink so we started on the back of a cocktail napkin serving three cities with four airplanes in one nine hundred seventy one and Herb and Roland had a vision and their vision in one thousand nine hundred ninety one was to give Texans the freedom to fly. Here we are. Forty four years later. And we happen to be the largest domestic carrier in the United States we serve one hundred twenty million passengers a year. We have the largest fleet of seven thirty seven Boeing aircraft in the world seven hundred roughly. We are closing in on being a twenty billion dollar business. We employ almost fifty thousand people we serve one hundred markets. And last year we launched international service near international service and now service both Mexico the Caribbean and parts of Central and South America. It's a pretty remarkable story for a company that started on the back of a cocktail napkin over a drink forty some odd years ago. Along the way we've had some really big successes so I'm happy to say that we have had forty two years of profitability by the way are there any Delta employees in the room. I'm sorry you're just going to have to listen. We've had forty two years of profitability which is unheard of in the airline industry. All of our competitors actually during the time of our profitability declared bankruptcy and restructured we've never done that. In our history of our company we've never had a layoff we've never furloughed a group of employees. We've also had some great success by winning the Triple Crown which in the airline industry is like winning the Triple Crown in horse racing which is on time arrival bags make it with their passengers and lowest consumer customer complaints and we've run one that more than any other airline in the history of the airline industry. We've also been pretty innovative over the course of the low the last forty some odd years so we were the first airline to introduce ticketless travel we were the first airline to sell tickets on the Internet we were the first airline to actually have a fully functioning website. We were the first airline to have a mobile application and on and on and on. I tell you all of that because I want you to understand the fiber of Southwest Airlines and the fiber of Southwest Airlines is based in its people. And the entrepreneurial ship of those people and the creativity of those people. We have a very simple business model. Our business model is we fly and all sir seven thirty seven Boeing fully. We fly point to point network versus a hub and spoke network for those of you who have studied the airline industry you know that is a very different way to operate an airline. We are a company that prides herself on customer service. And therefore we do not charge. Most fees that are their lines do we are known for primarily for bags fly free hopefully you know that about us bags fly free. Our business model is really yes it's those things practically but a real business model. And how we've been successful for forty some odd years. Is really based in two things. The first is our culture. So we have a very simple view of our culture our people. Our most important to us. Our employees come first now a lot of companies will say their employees come first but it's Southwest Airlines our employees come first and our business model and our belief is that if we put our employees first through great servant leadership. That our employees will therefore pass that along to our customers and they'll pass that along to our customers through exemplary customer service. In turn our customers will be happy and they will come back and fly a suggestion and if they do that we make money. And if we make money our investors are happy and that ultimately is the crux the secret sauce in my opinion of the Southwest business model. The other thing that is really key to our success. Is that we have a clear purpose. So how many of you and by the way I will not fault you get this wrong because when I joined southwest I'm not sure I completely understood this by the way I've been at Southwest for three years I'll come back to me in a little bit. How many of you would say Southwest primary purpose is to operate an airline. OK Now a few of you. That's not really true we do operate an airline but is calling Russell would say. I'm sorry calling Barrett would say we are we are in the customer service business we happen to operate an airline. And so we have a clear purpose and our purpose is to connect people to what's important in their lives through friendly reliable and low cost air travel. It isn't to make sure that the planes are clean all the time it isn't to make sure that we're at all the right airports all the time it's really a higher calling or not her purpose which is to connect people to what's important in their lives we also have a very clear vision of what we want to be we want to be the world's most loved most flown and most profitable airline and we're well on our way to being that we have fans we we talk about customers but the reality is we have fans that happen to be our customers. And that's because of the great great people that our customers interact with on a daily basis. Now. That's where we are today. We are a growth focused company. We just launched international service a little over a year ago which opened up an entire new set of markets for us. That isn't where we want to be five ten twenty years from now and so we're in the midst of the second generation of East set of strategic plans that will allow us to achieve our purpose and achieve our mission so over the course of the next five years at Southwest Airlines we will change where we fly we've already started that will change what we fly we won't change the fact that we're all Boeing seven thirty seven fleet but there's a lot of different kinds of Boeing seven thirty seven's will change how we fly it and most importantly it will change the customer experience that our customers have when they decide they want to take a trip they look for that trip. They actually buy a ticket they get on our flight they go through the airport they get to their destination and the aftercare that we provide to them. Sounds pretty simple and I would tell you that's probably one of the secrets to Southwest successes for forty some odd years we have kept it incredibly simple. Now my role in this is I'm the C.E.O. at Southwest Airlines I've been there for a little over three years. Prior to Southwest Airlines I had a very long career at Pepsico so I also realize I'm in the lion's den of Coca-Cola. So I'm feeling a little awkward here when I when I was that Pepsi Co by the way. A We we didn't actually used the name Koch we referred to it as the red company in Atlanta and I am told although I don't know that they referred to Pepsi Co as the blue company in New York. By the way the airline business is is a little more collegiate than that. Collegiate not collusive I want to be clear on that. But twenty six years at Pepsico where I held various roles I did start at T.-I as a programmer I quickly determined that I was an average programmer but what really really got me up and going in the morning was the fact that I liked that space between technology in between our business operation and that problem that needed to be solved and the fact that that problem could be solved with technology I don't really care so much about what the technology was but what I really really got excited about was how to solve that problem a business problem and so I started in my career to gravitate into the great space between technology and business. And began a long career from a management perspective holding various different leadership roles at Pepsi Co. Pepsi Co afforded me by the way it's a great company it afforded me the opportunity to see the world multiple times. I like to say the first time you go to a place like Shanghai it's awesome the fifth time it's interesting the tent time it's like OK the fifteenth time well you know I could be going to Detroit or L.A. or Austin Texas right. But I saw the world and when I left Pepsi Co I was responsible for basically all business transformation and all technology related items outside of the United States. And so you ask well why did you do that why did you come to southwesterly. Things. Already told you. Forty plus years of record profits. A model that is our employees come first which allowed me to be a servant leader which is important to me and a huge mission. Which was how do we go expand outside of the US How do we grow our U.S. market and how would how do we change the customer experience at Southwest Airlines and executive team that actually lives those principles and was willing to smartly invest to actually achieve that mission so I'm currently the C.E.O. of Southwest Airlines what that means is I'm responsible for all technology at Southwest Airlines the good parts and the bad parts. And I am also responsible for ensuring that all strategic enterprise initiative these are delivered. And that allows me to play in that space between technology and. And our business operation now how many of you in the room are more business focused in your degree. In how many of you came expecting I was going to talk about the latest technology. A good well OK the two or three that I was going to do that I'm going to disappoint you greatly. I like to tell people I'm not a technologist and the reality is if you're a C.E.O. you have to be enough of a technologist to know what makes sense. But the role of the CIA it was is actually very very different and that's what I want to spend a little bit of time talking to you about today. Traditionally the role of the CIA was mirrored the capabilities of technology so in in the eighty's most technology was focused on automation. How do you automate a task. In a digitized way to drive productivity in the ninety's most of the technology was focused focused on optimization because now we've automated those tasks we now have data which we can then build in jinns to try to figure out how to optimize our business operation against that in the two thousand it was all about how do you leverage the Internet how do you allege leverage the explosion of. Mobility. Whether it's a smartphone a tablet a laptop a watch. My foot whatever it might be. And here we are today and what I would tell you is I believe the most important role of the CIA today is to understand all of those technologies but really figure out how to create business value from those technologies and so for those of you that are focused in technology that doesn't mean that you don't have a long career being very creative and very innovative and creating the next big technical innovation but I would encourage you to make sure you understand the business value that can come from it and for those of you that are focused more on the business side of it I would encourage you to make sure that you do you understand enough about technology so that you know how to drive the business value that you'll be expected to drive when you get into your career. So my primary responsibilities are to be a value creator. Which means. I. Need to understand the business of Southwest Airlines I need to understand the key metrics of Southwest Airlines and need to understand the key drivers behind those metrics so that I can help partner. With my business operations leaders to ensure that we invest in the right things and that they produce the right business value whether that's incremental revenue fish and see some some new product that wows our customers and delights our customers and brings once brings them back on a more repeated basis. Another part of my role is to be an enterprise gov And what I mean by that is we now live in an age where technology has been consumer iced. I have two children they're both college students and fortunately they are not at Georgia Tech but they are college students and I will tell you that when I have a problem with my i Phone or my i Pad I actually asked them because they actually know more about what the capabilities of that device are than I do. Everyone. Knows something about technology today that it was not the case twenty years ago and because of that technology has been consumer ised. That translates into everybody has an idea about what technology should be used against any business problem that they might be trying to solve. That leads to an enormous appetite within any business. For technology services and as an enterprise governor and as a value creator My role is to ensure that we look across the enterprise and we shape that demand so that we drive the most business value that we can with the resources we have at our disposal. The third responsibility that I have is I'll call it financial advisor. And the reason I say financial advisor is in most companies the. Budget for technology is one of the top five P. and L. items. I'm not going to tell you where we are at Southwest Airlines because we have some Delta folks in here but I will tell you most companies it's top five actually most companies as maybe top three. Pins on what what what kind of company you are you're in the service industry it's probably top three if you're in the manufacturing industry maybe top five. If you're in the transportation industry let's say top five. What that means is you have a financial set of responsibilities that require you to think like a C.F.O.. Is this project worth the investment does it have the return on the investment can we afford it. Will we be able to resource it with the appropriate headcount. How does it fit in the overall P. and L. of the company and the overall cash flow of the company the overall income statement of the company. What strategic initiatives will be investor worthy. So you have to be a financial advisor. The next responsibility that I have is change leader. So I said I'm the C.E.O. but I'm also responsible for the delivery of our strategic in our prize programs. Well the delivery there is always the construct a symbol purchase whatever it might be that's honestly the easy part the hard part is to get people to change behavior. And the only way you drive value out of an investment in technology is to get people to change their behavior they have to use it. They have to want to use it they have to actually change the business processes that go around it and they have to want to do that. People don't like to change you guys like change. Now I will tell you I love to create change but when somebody tells me I have to change I resist and I think that's human nature and so I would tell you being a change leader is really really important. And then the last one is you know I still need to run a technology organization. Now most people think a technology organization is about the technology the reality is the technology organization is about the people. It is about acquiring the right talent Skilling the people that you have the right way putting them in the right seat on the bus. And then ensuring that they understand their purpose as part of the overall mission of the company. And then ensuring that they understand what their career is so I would tell you as in the functional leader portion of my role I spend the majority of my time not talking about what technology we should use but where people should be placed how we should resource the investments that we make how do we grow people's careers how do we create the succession in the bench strength that we need for the next generation of leaders and how do we sure ensure that everyone. In the technology organization at Southwest Airlines feels like they have a home and they know where their next home will be. No where in there did I say I need to be innovative. I need to be really technically savvy. Except I do have to do those things but the reality. Is there a lot more there are a lot more people that are a lot smarter that have a lot more passion about that than I do and so my overall responsibility is to make sure that our harness that talent. And actually apply it against the right things that we need to go do it Southwest Airlines it's a pretty cool job actually it's a great job that's why three years ago I came to Southwest Airlines. I will tell you that I think most C.I.S. today. Don't actually do that. So I read a statistic in the Wall Street Journal in the C.E.O. section of The Wall Street Journal a few months back that said the role of the CIA will disappear over the next five years now of course I saw that headline I definitely read it multiple times right. And they're worse than the statistics in there that were actually kind of frightening and staggering So we're in an age where technology. Is. So innovative so creative and so business enabling. That it can do almost anything in any part of any business and yet the C.E.O.'s of the Fortune five hundred only one in four actually felt like the CIA understood what their business challenges were. So if you're a C.E.O. and you don't understand what the business challenges of the business you support are. How in the world are you ever going to actually help the business with its mission and the answer is you can't. And that's why I think C.I.S. today have to step back and I think they have to reflect I think they have to get out of the world of thinking about how to run technology and they have to get into the world of being a business leader that is focused on driving business value driving business growth. Creating great teams. And ensuring the success of the companies that they are a part of. I would tell you at Southwest Airlines I am very privileged I would say I am blessed I have a great team. I love them. Most of the time they love me. I have a great set of executives that are my peers that are incredibly supportive because being a C.E.O. is an easy I don't know how many of you might have heard a couple of months ago we had this little bitty problem with our website for about three days. So it's not all rosy all the time but I have a group of peers that are incredibly supportive understand the value of technology and understand that for them to be successful in their part of our business. I have to be successful for them and the thousands of technology resources at Southwest Airlines have to be set up for success to be successful for them. And I'm really really fortunate that I have a CIA And Gary Kelly who understands the value of technology and is willing to invest in it. At Southwest Airlines. Technology is viewed as an enabler. In a lot of companies today unfortunately technology is viewed as a cost center. And you see that in different ways right a lot of technology organizations report to the C.F.O.. It's considered a G. and A function of back office function and a cost center and therefore the focus for that organization is how do you reduce the cost of technology. If you're in an organization where technology is seen as an enabler it is all about what are the right investment. It's for us to make to drive the right return on those investments to drive the right business value which supports the purpose and mission of the company and that's why I'm blessed because that's the way we think about technology at Southwest Airlines so I feel like I've got the best C.E.O. gig in the industry. I work in a great culture I get to be a servant leader. I get to focus on business problems and technology I'm blessed with a great team I'm part of a company that has a unbelievably rich history of success. And we're blessed that we have fans as customers. So I've got the best again in the industry. So with that. I'd like to hear from you questions. OK Well thank you. I'm going to let you guys pick what hand you want to go with first. OK. I thank you for your talk today you talked about being a change leader and how that can be and what are your some of your strategies or key tips for getting people on board for important change you have so. I don't know your curriculum here so I apologize but I am assuming at some point part of your your curriculum you will study John Kotter and the eight principles of change in leadership is that a fair assumption. You talk about it OK I'm a huge student of Carter. And I would tell you I leverage those a principals on every change that I do and that may sound corny and it may sound like a text. Cancer but I would tell you it's tried and true so I've had I've been really really fortunate in my career to. Be a part of massive transformations of businesses. Effort away I was part of a billion and a half dollar transformation of of the supply chain capabilities that Frito Lay when I was C.E.O. for Pepsi Co Europe I was part of a team that acquired nine companies in the span of eight eighteen months and integrated them. And now it's Southwest the transformation to launch international service and then all of the other things that are kind of in our our future strategy and I can tell you in every one of them. In every one of them the most important tool that I've had are those eight tactics from Cotter's change leadership. And it's all about you've got to build the guiding team you've got to build the burning platform right and you know the rest and the most important by the way is number eight which is you have to make it stick. If you haven't read John Carter's books on change leadership I would really encourage you to do that. By the way you don't have to use it just one big change I used it on my son getting him prepared for college he doesn't know that unless he was he sees this video but. Yes. It's a good question. But I guess my question. Problem is zero zero zero. Zero. Zero. Zero. Sure so we. You know we we have the distinct pleasure of having organically grown our business over the course of the last forty plus years. And that's awesome but but the reality is when when most of your growth is organic sometimes you're the frog that kind of slowly warms up and then boils in the pot right and what I would tell you is you know at some point you wake up and you realize you're you're not three you're not four aircraft flying to three cities in the stated Texas but you're given the freedom to fly to all of America and you're running thirty five hundred plus flights a day you have seven hundred aircraft and you've got let's say forty five thousand employees that need to know what they need to do to run the airline in the most cost effective way possible well that's a very different business problem to solve so day in and day out the human brain can't solve how do you manage thirty five hundred flights a day with the crews that need to be allying to that across one hundred markets and by the way right in the middle of that let's throw a massive blizzard into the northeast that shuts down ten of our our stations our airports and now what do we do with those planes how do we get the crews realigned to the aircraft in the appropriate way and by the way how do we make sure we fulfill our purpose which is all of those passengers actually get where they need to be. So we're using technology and optimization engine Zz to actually take that data and create really really complicated Saul's which allows us to balance getting our craft where they need to be having our crews aligned to where they need to be and still fulfilling our purpose. With our customers it's incredibly complicated but I would tell you the value in that is enormous There's enormous productivity with how we use our craft utilization there's enormous productivity for our crews by the way and. Armas work life and job satisfaction for our crews and then there's an enormous applied revenue potential because our passengers actually see us as more reliable and therefore more likely to come back and be a passenger again. And so we're working through that right now it's a very very complicated problem to solve but we're using technology to do that. Yes So you mentioned you've gotten to travel the world has that changed any of your perspectives on life if so yes so. So I grew up in a small town in southeast Kansas. And when I say small I mean no stoplights Twelve hundred people very small. And so I've had until two thousand and six when I moved to Geneva Switzerland with my family I had a very U.S. centric view of the world and to be honest with you if you've never been outside of the United States it's easy to do one and I would tell you the world doesn't view us the same way we view ourselves and I happened to be. In Switzerland in Europe at a time when the U.S. political environment was not seen upon very favorably by most of the European Union and so you can imagine going to a business dinner with. You know someone from our French business somebody from our Spanish business our German business our U.K. business our Irish business our Russian business and sitting down and all the sudden somebody wants to talk about politics. You start to get a very different view of how the world actually sees the United States and it's it's it's not as favorable as I thought it was right I mean I grew up thinking quite honestly we were helping. To save the world what I learned having lived in Europe is not the world doesn't necessarily always want to be saved by us right. But what I would also tell you is I learned a very important lesson so. I. Grew up professionally in a commanding control kind of environment and when I went to Europe if you can imagine my leadership team in Europe I literally at the table I had a leader from the U.K. Spain Germany Poland Russia. France and so on well they don't necessarily get along very well. And I was in that were part of my role was to take those local business unit technology organizations and make them a European technology organization and what I learned was the art of influence. The art of influence you cannot command and control your way through that environment you have to influence people with a logic. Primarily. I would tell you the other thing that it changed for me personally is. I I love to explore now so I've been in most major international cities and a lot of really small cities outside of the U.S. that you've probably never heard of and I can tell you when I'm there I want to be as local as possible depending on the city I want to be safe while I'm being local but as local as possible experience the culture I find. The cultural aspect of the nations around the world to be something that just completely fascinates me and I think how that translates back to me professionally is it's given me a much better view of the value of diversity. So. After I left Europe I was the C.E.O. for all of the international and I did travel the world and when I would have a leadership forum the diversity that was in that room. If you can figure out how to harness that diversity in a productive way I'm amazing amazing creativity innovation unique ways to look at things to solve a problem that if you don't have that diversity you all just kind of think well this is the way you solve it and you never really get better and maybe of all of my things around international travel the thing I'll probably carry with me the most is the value of diversity. Yes. So just curious curiosity's sake what are the point to point and hub and spoke models and also. Because you only fly seven thirty seven's do you think you ever miss out on any of the market like maybe commuter flights or people who want to fly Dreamliner is international sure someone is going to take those in reverse order. So we fly in all seven thirty seven Boeing fleet one class of service and I can tell you absolutely that we miss out on. Some amount of business travel because business travelers are enticed by building up their miles and leveraging those to use them in a higher class of service especially when they're taking the family on vacation right and so sure. There are a lot of complexities that go with that and I would tell you. I'm not completely convinced that that turns out to be profitable or not. But we absolutely do limit because we have a an all Boeing seven thirty seven fleet. Where we can fly and then. Our choice around class of service so so that's true the difference between a hub and spoke in a point to point network is this. So Delta American United pretty much every other airline runs a hub and spoke and what that means is for instance Atlanta as a hub for Delta right and if you go out to the airport in any given point time you're going to see a huge number of planes sitting on the ground and because what that what that is is they they fly in from smaller cities into the hub and many people get off of that plane and they connect to a different plane to go to San Francisco and so they've they've built a really big operation in Atlanta which allows them to connect passengers in that fashion it also allows them to use multiple aircraft types. A point to point now work is I will line of flight so an aircraft will start in Dallas so the aircraft that I was on today coming in started in Dallas came to Atlanta its next stop was I think Tampa it was going from Tampa to Baltimore from Baltimore to. I want to say it was going to Kansas City then it was going to Denver. And then it was coming back to Dallas. Right it doesn't mean you're always comes back to Dallas it could end up in Oakland right but instead of coming into a hub and then going back out it actually traverse us a line of flight for us it's a very different way to run your network. The difference in the in the two honestly as you get higher aircraft utilization with. Point to Point network aircraft spend less time sitting on the ground back in the day we were the inventors of the ten minute turn right. You know this was back in the days where flight attendants were hop Anson All right so long time ago but. The you know we were we were the inventor of the ten minute turn so literally during the course of the operating day an aircraft would be on the ground for ten minutes or less at any given airport before is back in the air flying again so our turns are a little longer than that now because our aircraft are bigger and we have more connecting passenger traffic than we did back then. You know our traffic used to be primarily short haul our traffic now is primarily long haul short haul being Austin to Dallas long haul being Baltimore to Dallas or Baltimore to L.A.. My question has to do with the nonorganic growth of acquiring Air Tran Yes my from a customer perspective. I was thinking what are you guys thinking you know Southwest doing that. And I'm sure he had good good reasons but it seems to me that the cultures might have been a bit different. How do so how did you deal with integrating the two cultures or where they really not that that different internally even though from a customer perspective they seem different Yeah you know so so a company's culture and the customer experience that you feel as a customer are necessarily the same thing I would tell you and I think I came to southwest after. That acquisition was well in progress but I was what I would tell you was the culture at Air Tran was more similar to see. What's the you you might think I would say was identical but what I would tell you is. The the people of Air Tran came into the Southwest culture pretty easily to be honest with you the South was culture is an easy culture to come into if you embrace it. You know in terms of. In terms of the acquisition itself I mean obvious business reasons for that it gave us an opportunity to grow it gave us an opportunity to grow our aircraft fleet and it gave us the opportunity to. To take possession of routes that allowed us to launch international service with Southwest Airlines so. For the delay of you know it just one website to purchase tickets and all the planes having the Southwest label Hashi's down like most of my peers. So. So it sounds really simple but it's not. So. It's not as simple as shut down one one website and have everybody go to the new website there's a lot of work that has to be done so that you can actually connect the networks because of your member even though Southwest acquired Air Tran Air Tran existed in continued to operate for. More than two years and I don't remember the exact number of months it was and so being able to to move to one Southwest dot com required us to be able to move the aircraft and the crew into our operating certificate you know by the way the aircraft need to be repainted the interiors need to be redone the crew the crews needed to go through the appropriate training to operate under the Southwest operating certificate. And we had to actually hardware all the technology so that we could get rid of that old reservation system and use our new reservation system and Southwest dot com So it was a it was a lot of work to be honest with you. I know it sounds really simple but it was a lot of work. So. Yes I was wondering in what ways do you allocate responsibility within your to choosing what technologies you will invest in selfless. So I have a leader of enterprise architecture and his primary role is to ensure that we are we are trying to stay true to our philosophy on the technologies we want to use and. Our philosophies around where do we purchase technology and where do we build our own technology and so his primary responsibility is to make sure we stay the course on that. I have a leader who is responsible for product development and product solutions and his responsibility is to ensure that we produce products technically that align to the architectural philosophies that we have agreed to. The challenge comes in quite honestly with there are a lot of technologies out there and in some cases this one piece of technology looks really really good for the one business thing we want to do but it doesn't necessarily fit into our architectural view of the world and it doesn't integrate very well with the rest of our technology or even our business processes and so I would say or biggest challenge there is to. Influence our business partners that that piece of technology might not be as good as a different piece of technology that fits. More seamlessly into the. Rest of the enterprise. But it's. My leaders have very defined sets of responsibility. And Enterprise architecture is kind of the key holder for that. Yes What are the most important part in decisions you face daily as a. Southwest Airlines and how is it different from your time at Pepsi Co. The most important decisions I'm I face daily. You know honestly that really does depend on the day. I. Would say. Probably the most important decision that I make on a daily basis is where I'm going to spend my time. We have an incredibly large agenda of things we want to do it Southwest Airlines they're all really important they all add tremendous business value I think I can't focus on every one of them and so I think to be a good leader you have to focus and so I think maybe the most important decision I make every day is what things are the most important things for me to really be focused on today and it could vary depending on the day the season that we're in. And issues that we may be having except. I. Would tell you kind of outside of that I think the thing that I spend my most time focused on are is. Is the team set up for success do we have the right resources do we have the right number of resources do we have the right people with the right skills sitting in the right seat on the bus. I probably spend. A disproportionate amount of my personal time focused on that. OK. Thanks for that up today I probably won't have an epithet question for you but I would be grateful if you could. Answer that say if there are two aspects in airline industry one is craft manufacturer and one is airline itself so if suppose there is an innovation and they want to implement it on the aircraft so in this customer consumer experience based industry what's the right Janet for them to go should they go for influencing the airline so that they can influence the aircraft manufacturer they should directly go get them in a factual and implement their idea in the aircraft first and then go to the airlines without knowing the specifics of of what this capability is it's a little hard to answer that if it is equally towards passenger experience and technology for aircraft like efficiency and. So if it is equally in the US I would want to be biased in my answer but I would I would go to the airline the airline is going to want to own the customer experience in flight and they're there most likely to be the ones who can place business value on the capability I think of it's an efficiency around just the operation of the aircraft. You know in our case that that's why Boeing is our partner we would expect them to do that and I would encourage someone to go to Boeing for that. You mentioned a number of times about your servant leadership style I'm sorry sorry you mentioned a number of times about your servant leadership style if you mind giving a couple examples of how you apply that leadership style as the C.E.O. and how that style is changed going from Pepsi Co to Southwest. The. I would like to think. That is a mean it's true but. I would like to think that a part of my character is to be a servant leader but I would tell you the environment that you operate in Will. Will move you in one direction or the other. I would tell you I am absolutely a better servant leader. Now that I'm at Southwest than I was in my prior career. A lot of that has to do with it is fundamental to the core culture. At Southwest Airlines and quite frankly. A huge amount of it has to do with it is a primary objective as a senior leader at Southwest Airlines for me so I am held accountable to being a servant leader and I think that's important because what gets measured gets done now I happen to have my own personal bias to want to be a servant leader anyway but I would tell you I'm I believe my servant leadership capabilities have exponentially grown at Southwest The other reason I think of exponentially grown is I am surrounded by unbelievable servant leaders in my peers in Gary herb and Colleen. Our employees the way they serve each other it's just it's really amazing. Servant Leadership comes in many different forms and fashions. I personally believe the thing that I'm most responsible for as a servant leader for the employees within Southwest Airlines and the employees of technology specifically is to give them a career with a cause. So how do I help make sure that they are set up for success. Both personally in their career but also for Southwest Airlines in the work that they do for Southwest Airlines. And. That that takes many shapes and sizes. And it can also be very simple things. But my chief technology officer he has this habit so every Wednesday the directors and above we have lunch together and we talk about the things that are important and issues that we have and how we're going to go solve them and I love this about Craig and he picks up everybody's plate when we're done eating. What a great example of servant leadership is that. And so it can be very small things and it can be very large things. You know I think for me personally. I tried to be the best listener that I can. As a servant leader I try to put people in a position to be successful. By the way sometimes being a servant leader doesn't mean that it feels very good right so that being a servant leader some of the hardest servant leader moments are when you need to sit down with an employee and say you're not meeting the expectations of the job that you're in and how do we solve that type I firmly believe people want feedback and if you give them feedback they will change in they will do better and so I think one of the the things I like to pride myself on as a servant leader is I give a lot of feedback whether that's constructive feedback or whether that's praise. In you know there's there's a lot of things that go into that it's kind of hard to answer that with a singular thing. But it's important it's a passion point for me. You're the closer you're the closer. OK. Well. I might have done a little research for you gotts you got in a little inside. My right. Eye I can tell you what I've dressed up as the past three years but I cannot divulge the secret of what I will be dressed up as three weeks from now that's a tightly held secret that OK You're OK so in my first year at Southwest Airlines. I did I dressed up as. Uncle size from Duck Dynasty. And by the way I looked remarkably like him which was a little scary but I was Uncle side. The second year we did a children's Carnival the technology team did a children's Carnival and they asked me to be the ringleader so I was in. These pictures I was in white tights with the red thing in the top Patton and we made like two thousand hot dogs that day for children. While we were doing that. And then last year last year was a big year for Southwest Airlines for those of you who don't know much about the Dallas area Southwest Airlines flies out of Love Field and Love Field when D.F.W. was built forty some odd years ago they put this restriction in place called the Wright amendment which basically said anybody flying out of Love Field could not fly to a state that was not attached to Texas without landing before they went on to that destination. And so the Wright amendment was repealed. Last year actually almost exactly a year ago and so. We did a skit so by the way at Southwest during Halloween there are multiple skits that are performed everybody dresses up Gary Kelly dresses up. And I was asked to be Jim Wright in the skit so I dressed up as Jim Wright so I don't of you know what Jim Wright look like but he was known for some really big bushy eyebrows and I might have exaggerated those a little bit and I carried around a big binder that was called that had them and went on and I thumped it all day long and yelled at people and people booed at me and it was quite an experience to be to be honest with you but this year is a little you know we hold that under wraps and we roll it out on that morning so if you want to know. Come come to Southwest Airlines on howling that's a big deal of the thank you of the.