I'll talk a little bit about the innovation Union. That's a new initiative the European Commission has launched two weeks ago to talk about the background of the E.U. S S M C agreement. Give an overview of peak of the F P seven program that's the biggest research program on the world then. The corporation program is a part of it. The people program. I give examples of projects and how to participate. Now why I'm here and able to talk to you is because that is an E.U. agreement on Science and Technology which was started in one thousand ninety eight it was already two times when you and what is new in two thousand and nine it all seems of F P seven what does that the seven stand for. It's the seven framework for research and development of the you can commission and things is the word for all the different areas. How is it governed. We have a joint constituted group meeting with the Department of State with the other federal agencies it seems like and that's asked the E.P.A. NASA know to come together to set the priorities and see what we can do together. I want kind of options and what we have and. Now one of the things you heard was we have now the twenty twenty strategy we've talked to in a nice event this morning about it. Part of it is the innovation Union. And one of the problem is that we you know we have currently scientific economic downturn it's a really big crisis in a we have to see what we can do concerning globalization about building up knowledge and the production and use also the small medium sized enterprises to do it but those cars currently are very high much impacted in with. Crisis. So and we have no major challenges and we don't have the means to do it. So it's a big challenge and we have to innovate. That's the reason why we did that if you look at the. The knowledge production here and you see beyond the expenditure in real terms even twenty seven is not very. Promoting lots of R. and D. and giving money to it. United States and Japan. Not so much the rest of the world is west of the world is China India and other countries like Brazil but you see stagnated business R. and D.. There are if you see the graph here you see growth of G.D.P. and Japan South Korea and China have a growth. But. E.U. does not have a growth and you see United States is in the same league. Unfortunately. So how can we help the situation. Develop what causes excellence. I think one of the reasons why I'm here is Georgia Tech is an institution to create excellence and it is a place of excellence and is a place of course to create partnerships of excellence. So try to in fact investment investment means investment from the government but also investment from private public from private entities and to do private public partnerships. But it's easier said than done. It's difficult but Therefore we need to establish the G.-G. cooperation with World Com and. Our F P seven program is open to us part to participants and we need the best people to work together. Therefore I'm here to let you know about the opportunities are about the program and to see whether you can fit. This is the seventh friend our program basic outline what is interesting is we have a seven year program seven year we have different seams with specific topics which are governed by and know what programs. And the budget allocated to it. It is increasing. So we have. Fifty three billion euros allocated to the seven from a program and every year it gets more so two thousand and seven when you compare two thousand and thirteen you get double the money. Now we have the cooperation programme the corporation program is a program where we bring Critical Mass together to tackle global problems. We have a minimum requirement of three different partners why do we do that we do that because the appropriation program was built from the integration process of Europe so long time ago the first second and third. Frame a program we have developed to bring Europe's researchers together. That has been achieved. Right now we are now in the process of opening up to the world to aggress to address the global challenges. Therefore three different Pratinas from three different countries of Europe Europe means the European Union. Plus as sociate states like so it's a land Norway. Israel Israel is not part of the European Union. No but they give money to a big part of F P seven and it's a given on a competitive basis. So they have partners. This cooperation program. Has different themes I have talked a little bit in detail about it but it tackles all. Areas of research. The next one is the ideas program the ideas program was developed because that we faced as you're paying commission a lot of criticism that we did not fund basic research that we fund applied research apply in the sense that we we how. You are paid. We have to tackle problems which is kind of like Applied Research. So we generated. As a spinoff as you would say the ideas program which is governed by the European Research Council. And the governance is done by. Nobel Prize winning scientist not like me so and they tried to reduce the paperwork. European Commission has it's perceived as the most. Most complicated paperwork organizing. Funding Agency we have a lot of paperwork right you know we trying to reduce that regularly but we've kind of like here. And we would like to get it here but. The trying to do a good job with this. What is this. These are two main products that grants the R.C. grants there is a stop in grants for younger researchers. That means they get a couple of million euros to build up a lab in Europe it's open to. People around the world. It's made available on a competitive basis and there is that it's advanced grants for experience researchers. The brochure. Here's an overview of the R.C. Grant also will guide you little bit through the brochures I brought with me. So again. Then we have the people program. Excellence of research is not. Days done by mobility know excellent research career is done now staying where you are most of the people go from A to B. for me to see being and lots of different places in Europe but also in the United States or elsewhere. What I'm trying to say is that we are developing ways to get the people away and come back. So we're not really promoting brain drain. Promoting brain circulation so we have products where you go from here to United's from the United States to Europe and back all the other way around. I will talk a little bit about it later the capacities program is a program where we fund research infrastructures. And have the means. So that the. Researchers can use those infrastructures for their research and we have the you worked on program. As their nuclear program and the J R C We have five European joint research centers these five research centers are European Commission Directorate generals. They do research for support for the support of policy of the European Commission and their independent. The corporation program is open to international partners in all themes that means open to the whole planet Earth. And open to all themes we do not include exclude anybody. And there are specific programs which include specific international corporation action stickers. But these are more geared towards developing countries. Ideas program is grants for individuals our teams of individuals but you can apply as a U.S. participant. But you have to go to Europe. Research has to be done in Europe. So we are open. Also in that respect to people from outside Iraq and the people program. I said we are moving people around on the individual basis but also to do an international staff next to exchange scheme that is a program where institutions come together on both sides of the Atlantic and develop a two to four year old. Long. Exchange program paid by the European Commission and paid by us from the agency. Again funding of the capacities program we do bilateral and by regional international cooperation. Area. How do we do it. We do it by coordinated calls. Diane said in the beginning I was doing the first coordinated call on advanced materials to simulate a simulation with N.S.F.. That means getting people across the Atlantic a funding agencies to agree on a topic have a common part of X. funds have a common part of. Should I say a common group of. Evaluators and have also a common ranking and do. The. The evaluation of the projects in the harmonized way. We do training and clustering that means bringing people projects together two or more. We have organize workshops and seminars try to exchange scientists and technical experts we do open our peer reviews for evaluations from outside. So you are all invited to come and prepare a C.V. We have a call for. Form evaluators on this for sure. Here you the last page has lots of interesting weapon things and this one is where you can put your C.V. in and there. Some people or something and then the people of my program officer colleagues in Brussels will look at the right people to invite your review. So you're welcome to participate. What we have also is called Aero link USA that is that network of European researcher here in the United States. What we do is we it's and it's for free. We get a newsletter every month with updated calls where what's happening in United States and Europe. You'll be invited for events we are going nice and that's a very good. And networking opportunity. Now back to the corporation program. Just to give you an idea what are the funding opportunities here you see clearly that the cooperation program to bring teams together to tackle really problems gets the most fun day and then the ideas program for the basic research for researchers. Now I want to talk a little bit about. The funding opportunity is there again the F P seven program is open to right to suppose for outside Europe United States participants are welcome. Now then you say what about funding. You as participants are generally expected to bring their own funding that might get funded by the European Commission. So I need to explain this not to you. There are couple of ways of doing this you have to apply it when you are U.S. researcher with your three at least three European colleagues to that consortium to a proposal. At that time you have to say I have money already. If you have money and you say OK I have money for the project we just. Say it fine but most of the time people want to have extra funding for the money. So you need it to get it somewhere. People from the United States will not as a rule get funding be hers. So it is a rich country such as Japan. So you have to go to funding agencies. So you take the F P seven proposal and say you know I want to get some extra funding how do you do that you contact my colleague that is a GREAT him Harrison from N.S.F. at the international cooperation Directorate there and I'll tell you where are the opportunities to get some extra funding for your project. And do that. The same time and the European colleagues. Use your proposal to get the funding. The other option would be your very special. And you say I'm essential for the project and you can get funding from the European Commission. If you have to put in the proposal and then. The peer reviewers will have a look and say I have a special are you essential for the project and you what if you are essential for the project. You may get funding from the European Commission. That's the exception but there are exceptions to the rule. So I don't want to say it's not possible but you can do it. Yes. I think the plan was to ask questions later. Right. Yes. Yes. OK So the so I'm I'm very I'm very happy to to have your answer your question and hopefully be able to answer it. So and not call is currently open I'm talking about the corporation program we have a core of the corporation program and no call work program which is currently all. Open. Is open from the end of some are to the beginning off the winter. Depends on the different things. And what you need to have is part of course and then you can apply for the people program has a different timeline. They just opened the COS and they will be closed in March. So the reason why I'm here now is because we have primary the corporation program open and the people program open. So you have all the opportunities to apply now. But again you have also the opportunity to apply next year because it's an annual call. Their call topics will change the overall seems well not. Now let's say what all the same so I say everything. So I'm talking about corporations of health. You're talking about diabetes. Food Culture biotechnology example what the child obesity agriculture for a forest. Company information and communication technologies Internet of the future cybersecurity just one topic or use of information technology in a household or in. And replacement of body parts and I'm a science is not a technology is materials and your production technologies I will talk a little bit more in detail how that works as an example. It's about the safety and environmental aspects about new materials for specific purposes and also about new ways of production. We have a huge area of energy and she is killing energy wind energy solar energy biofuels. In here. Energy and all kinds of sorts and of power smart power grids and vom and we have a huge shopping list of topics for tackling our problems with the environment and running time of change for transport we're looking at sustainable surface transportation but also looking at turbines or new coatings for to our bonds are we're looking at. Adaptation of turbines for biofuels. That's various. Very very small examples we have people say you would only be doing math and science and science not. You don't do anything from you for the Humanities of course we do. There are social economic sciences and humanities have their own scene. So their own projects and own money for this. But also they are because all these teams have an integrated approach. We also tried to accommodate all the social sciences in the other themes and to be part of the project. Now with the new F P seven since two thousand and seven we also have the space research and security or research into it. You might say you know are we going to be the European NASA. No we will not. We are not the European Space Agency European Space Agency implements. The. European research initiative but we have now a mandate with a list from twenty two to develop space policy and with that we have money to also develop operational satellites we can also give money to Isa to do space. Initiatives for us and we have money to do space research. What kind of things we do we do for space which research. This is like kind of stop check. We are looking for new engines for intergalactic travel. We are looking for. Ways to look at the threat of asteroids crashing on on Earth. We are looking at ways to have a say and a vacuum cleaner for all the space junk. So we're looking at ways our topics where nobody else will give money for because you know you have to think about how can we can we tackle these real problems because they are excess. So now the example was the Nano Cheerios and production. This is just an example the example I use because my former job. I was a program officer for the Afghan speech Ariel's. And I want to show you as an example how all these things structure works. Again all the other seams have the same programs and have specific topics so we see a way of trying to get from the basic research to the market develop new ideas and put them in the new systems and have a deployment of knowledge that goes directly into this knowledge based economy and their innovations Union and. And Europe twenty twenty but we've gone back now how do. Do we do research. To research happen. So we're trying to promote basic research by the See that's the European Research Council bottom up research but then we do also plot research demonstration of project and focus topics with precise fields of application. So we're looking at Branksome of technology and steps a change in our projects. So now. For the for things we have in M.P. We have obscene downstream. Parts. We're looking at small and medium scale project and also gets project. You see small medium scale projects will be three to eight five people or entities large scale can be up to thirty entities and also the money money is different. You can have money or say. A million euro up to a large scale project ten million euro and see nano sciences and now technologies are tending to the smaller projects where as the production production technologies and integration of big because you have to integrate different sectors. This is how it looks like we go now to the nitty gritty here is we have certain topics for nano sciences eleven topic for the materials and so on large small as to me and C. is a type of proposal. You know you say what is this large is you get a lot of money for a lot of people. A lot means ten or more entities small means of course smaller than that. S M E We have specific areas for where we say we want to have S. and eighty's that small or medium sized enterprises involved. And we have C. is a proposals. Was he is a name means coordination and support action. What we do with this is getting people together building capacities bring them across the Atlantic bring them across. Different disciplines to work together see how we can work together. Therefore this is the C. is a type where you can fund workshops and conferences. Yes. Yes. And it's a crime entity as a legal a legal entity. So if your company. Or university or. A research institution. If you are one person company you are entitled to as long as you are you know. Your chambre of Commerce has your or your your the legal background. Yes that's an entity and so. Now. Now we go even a deeper level here you see for each the activity has under activity. You see that as a large project for lots of people here smart and multifunction packaging concept use allies and not technology or look at targeted therapy for using non technology for transport of market molecules across very biological barriers. These are very specific it's not bottom up. It's kind of like this is what we want to you to approach here. How do that come there. We have an annual process where the European Commission takes the initiative that you know I'm the product program officer writes down something and we go to all the different so versus all of the European Commission and say you know what other fine topics we want to have for the next program we can have an advisory board of smart people looking at that and then the member states have to say which topics that like because we do not want to duplicate the things they do in the member states. The European program is a program complementing the funding of the member states so there is only the topics where everybody says this is useful for walking on the European global level in this program. Therefore we have those specific civic topics. And they change every year. So the top. Here change the nano technology for benefiting every woman House energy and health will not change that will come back next year. So. Again here I want to show you what we do have a the topics are different and also we fund things like as a C.S.A. European platform on now I know outreach and dialogue but then we have very broad ones like an art scare green and economical synthesis amount of particles and nanostructures. As an example for working together as a coordinated call here is got the know. Well to scan modeling as a tool for virtual technology experimental and coordinate calls with Russia. So this is a call where we work together with Russia all those calls here are open for collaboration including us. People and it is so. This goes on what reason I'm showing this here is. The. There are topics where we say we want to work with also other entities in Europe like call with it and the envy means environment. So we work together with environment to write the right topics to put in here and looking things like Japan is currently very very active and working with us. So our. I want to show you a little bit what comes out of those projects we're trying to have a lot of projects where we can bring you things to the market. One of the examples here in the United was working in words materials for skin substitutions and repair to treat burns and also US and this is now on the market and it's. Biodegradable scuffle to be implanted. We have the first cancer treatment for brain time spur cancer which is not nano particle which is not a particle based which is also currently on the market. There are currently. Animal experiments with the bio the OP deficient pancreas which is very promising. To get those people who have to inject themselves with insulin and with those diets off so. That is very promising. To show you the Bratz of a whole thing will be the cures for electronic labels. We do. Flexible and tonic labeling. We have what's one of my projects I followed was is called Angus for aerospace engines. Which are canned. I can survive. High temperatures. And currently the manufacturers of the aerospace engines in all of the world using are trying to put those coatings. In those engines to lower the consumption edge of energy and that's very good. Now the next topic I want to talk briefly about is the. And vitamins just the same thing to say OK this is boring because this is the same thing but just to give you an idea what we're doing in the environmentalists and we have a shopping list here. All these things are topics where we fund. It's looking at climate change mitigation at adaptation natural hazards earthquakes hurricanes so Nagel's flooding all these things look at praja. It's for the environment environment we look at urban management Earth observation. And of course also looking at environmental technologies including for their cultural heritage. So you can get an idea all main call for environment is a red one. There it is for this year hundred fifty five million euros and we have a coordinator called in the environment with. The ocean off tomorrow that's how to do ocean management in a sustainable way in the future. And that has sixteen million euros this year. These topics look like that India Reiman theme. They are brought but very focused like improvement of the representation of critical client processes in climate and our system models or impacts of climate and land use changes in the Amazon. Now I will say why is that Amazon because the people in the five report and the member staff agreed. It took right now look at the Amazon. Next year they can say we will look at and talk to CA or something else but this year it's it's the Amazon so. Our ocean observation system are important. So we're also support that these are the topics from the also looking at forestry management in Africa. So we're looking also with people from other countries at third countries. What they're doing and helping those those states. Now the types of projects explain a little bit. What kind of problem projects we have but what is the funding scheme for this for the coordination and support actions you get one hundred percent funding that means for getting capacity building getting people around the table. Research and development projects some. All and large well get fifty or seventy five percent so we do cost sharing what does it mean for university you go get twenty five seventy five percent of the money from the European Commission and twenty five percent have to go come out swear if you're a company you get fifty percent. And we have special infrastructure project which have different rules but you know is that as the main way of giving funding. That's correct. Yes. That's why. This is implying. If a European part not or you're applying as a US partner folk to get European funding. So. Yes it's a different story that yes. Yeah they are you can't you can be. What you do is you first of all you have to talk to your European colleagues and say we want to work together. Secondly you say what's giving what kind of money if you have money by yourself. They will tell you comforting your money. If you don't have the money you will get you know get the money from the European Commission but it will also be good if you bring your own money be it from N.S.F.. Be it from other sources. But again you know you'll be getting ten hundred percent of the money not armed. Now how do you know we're perfect can you purchase a print. I said there and your calls for all these themes. And got published on the web it's own. Courtis apologize for their website. My colleagues did the fine job putting everything and it's everything back the problem is if you want to find something you can find it. At the Portland thing is there's a front page and said find a call you can find a call find a partner or you can find partner and find a document where you kind documents of your work you have to look at. But then find a project you're so you can see who is currently in projects and who. Can can participate in one of the projects. So then there's a participant supports what I said and then you look at what kind of topics you want to be involved and. They are very specific. So if you have your U.S. apartment and the E.U. part. You can really focus on one or two topics but don't try to squeeze in as it all. K. I want to be there but you know it doesn't really fit don't apply. It's very competitive. It's not doesn't mean that you will not get funding but the chance of putting a poll which does not really hit the nail on the head on the topic. Well will not be considered. For their minimum requirements you have to have at least three different entities from Europe that means E.U. partners are associated countries. That's the minimum requirement if you want to participate that will be the force. And to do it. You have to establish or close to being two of you or you consortium. So by yourself. You cannot apply. So you have to apply it with a team of people. Now how do you do that we don't have what is called the P I at P I. The brain of the. Of the project but. We have always called the coordinator. The coordinator in most cases is also the P.R.I. it's the coordinator is the link to the European Commission to make the proposal happen. Means this person puts in all the paperwork and all the legal things and all the proposals things in the press in the software you have to have a unique registration facility. You have to register with the unique facility gives you a participant. Then if you cation cone. The bad news is you have to do it. The good news is if you've done it once you don't have to do it again. You just put in the number and that's it. But all these pick stuff is done by the porn in Asia. And then the drafting and submission in this electronic proposed submission system is also done by the E.U. coordinator. But your job is to get your part of the of the of the proposal in with a coordinator and do a nice proposal and then you prepare a joint text. What is important and this is funny. I'm not so funny. You have to make sure that your coordinator pushes the button before the deadline. That's sometimes very difficult because our server. Even though we're bigger bigger bigger bigger. We sometimes question is the hour before the deadline. So make sure that you know have time to prepare and not do last minute changes before but usually it's the most important thing to really do their joint tax preparation and support the core nature. Yes. We say we do a two step procedure. Two step procedure means you get the technical description as a little paragraph and then you have minimum all maximum sorry ten pages as an outline. Then you'd be evaluated. Yes or no you go to the second stage and then to only the promising ones. Well then go to the full stage and say please prepare for proposal with one hundred pages and get rid of the poor people who. You know it's a lot of work to one hundred pages for. Yes. Depending on the scene. There seems which have a success right off. Say twenty percent. There are themes which have a success rate off. A certain percent and there are some topics where you have fifteen percent success rate. Yes. About. So. The evaluation is done performed by independent penalty gathered by the commission by us. We don't do a day about the nation we do it with. People. Experts. We do the individual assessment first then it's done a consensual consensus system point each proposal. And there will be as the rankings go they have a ranking of all the proposals that get sent of the commission and we just send OK here's the money here are the proposals and then we give out the money according to the ranking until the money runs out. He had a valuation here teria the first and fourth important one is the essence of quality. It's a concept object and the work plan. But we look also at the implementation at the participants and the consolidation as a whole whether we have the right people on the. That means you have to put in a complimentary chain. It's not so much getting one from northern and southern Europe and one from the new member states and all number States. That's not the case as it is now to look at who is the best equipped to do the job and now we're looking at impact impact on impact. What is the outcome of your project what can we do with this looking at plans for dissemination and exploitation. Here are some examples. This is an example of a European Commission environment project is a large scale one. It's looking at the ocean as sort of vacation a very hot topic right now it has twenty seven partners from Europe. And the partners get and six point five million euros for this project. Here's another one called High Noon. All I'll probably have acronyms catchy ones and they have a website and you can google all these projects. On and find websites for this. This is a small medium sized project as ten partners from Europe and gets three point three million euros and has two international partners. One is India and the other one is Japan and they're looking at you know the assessment of impact of the remote I and gracious retreat looking at forest fires this is a very international project its. Forest fires are unfortunately everywhere. Looking at a future Mon the boat row in their abilities and and has twenty one partners from Europe. Plus partners from South Africa Tunisia Turkey and the United States. We're looking also at. How the environment affects you. My house. This is so cold hard study for air pollution effects. And this kind of project. Has a partner is tired from. Outside of Europe and has twenty four partners from Europe and their contribution often nearly six months now I want to talk a little bit about it. See what I think it's the capacities of the people I think it's the people program. I'm talking to people program. So the people program as I said is focusing on the research or on developing knowledge in all the different stages of the career for research or so we start with initial training networks for researchers in Europe to build their early stage networks which they can build upon their research group in the future also looking at working in different disciplines to learn multidisciplinary research. You know in your intro European Polish ships and Co fun with national programs we do too. What we also do is called great with industry get people the experience to work on their work on their specific problem in industry environment and I cut them off our research institutions and we do specific outreach actions like researchers night and are going to museums but we also have. Awards and we have networking off and C.P.S. You might say what is an N.C.P. under Unfortunately we don't have in C.P.S. here in the United States. And C.P.S. experts in F P seven and can help you with setting up those also. There are for all different things for health for space for technology and then all countries and there are also in the corridors website so these people can help you. So what is important to let you know is we healthy international dimension here we're trying to get people across. Yes borders and across the Atlantic and then take and to have research experience elsewhere. So we do outgoing fellowships we do incoming fellowships outgoing fellowships is when you have people from Europe. Go for year abroad and come back. Ninety percent of those people I have one person here I'm twenty one and. Go to United States incoming fellowships will be the other way around people from outside mostly from India China United States and other places come to Europe go over there for a couple of years and go back but you have to go back so. Then the international staff exchange scheme I talked about it earlier. So here are the outgoing fellowships. You see that you have a personal career development plan. And you have a mandatory return face. So you have to go back. We don't want to export people to other countries but we want to give them the experience to go to other countries. Here are the incoming fellowships same thing. It's for one to two years to go to Europe and there is a return phase accompanied to it. Reintegration is something we developed for people who were outside of the European Union and wish to come back to start a research career in Europe. So they had funding all for twenty five thousand euros a year to start up their research in a host institution back in Europe. Yes. Read better make sure you know things I am. I'm here in the United States and sometimes things happen in Europe where I find out months later that that happened. So maybe they have decreased it again because of the I can see. Yes. I just want to say please check you know what I'm saying you know it may have changed again. What my message is that trying to treat the researchers fairly So you know so OK now this is the program for our institutional relations. You have twenty four to forty eight months partnerships to try to develop partnerships across the Atlantic. What is interesting and I think that's kind of I would say unique. We try not to foster only the research the research exchange. We want to get Also the research at Ministre term across the Atlantic. Why because they are doing all this paperwork with a grant agreement and and IP are issues and usually these things are huge obstacle. And it makes sense to find out how to work together. Therefore it's also open to that. Also we're trying to promote exchange of technical staff technical stuff is where you have infrastructure big instruments the research just go abroad but the research is usually how good their instruments and are stuck there but they should also get a glimpse of the international experience so and no. The last thing is the capacities program to build infrastructure to be used by the researchers example here is a top was fairly acknowledged to do tropospheric research. We have in two thousand and twelve. It will have. At Craft two people put it in from with instrumentation packages for Atmospheric Research. This is raw gas. This is an interesting thing how to observe the Earth. There will be commercial passenger planes having some space available for our instrument package of to observe the Earth while they're circling the globe. I think that that's a very neat project. I said earlier we're now into this space space agency also. D.M. me as stands for global monitoring for environment and security. We have developed a developing satellites together with the European Space Agency. And these five sangomas are currently on the planning. These are weather satellites looking for and also. Lights for emplacing Landsat looking at oceans and vegetation and so on. As far as I know is that it's planned that access will be available for researchers to use the data for their research and I think that's a very good strategy. Now we have currently already some place some big integrated projects running with more than thirty partners each on these topics. And usually they do also workshops and if you want to be part and where you can just look cool them and connect with the coordinators too to be part of the project. So. And I would like to thank you for the attention but before I just want to explain a little bit what I have here. Important for you is all the programs here is in the what is in them for you. Bush or as all the projects here. Also education projects where we try to foster trying to grease for for research institutions for for education like the Atlantis program or a program. If you want to. To work on a proposal for a corporation program this has guided how to set up a proposal and also expresses the. The legal issues involved and that. This is the bush about our European York says Lang's they European network of broad. Here is the brochure for the European Research Council for the start up for the. Young researchers and experience research and so forth. If you look at cooperation for higher education we have of course your four best practices. And then for the memory for me. We have currently this brochure of all the back and forth. Measures and here is the wonderful annual newsletter all of this center of excellence. And I would like to thank you. So now. So maybe you can say a little bit about first of all question and then it's a splendid little bit. How you know how how you are Marie Curie. And all the little. Personal shame. That's the word. We got one of the challenges that we have Mary Cary operation. But of course the most violent crime here. I guess for me here in the US. One of the things that I'm really trying to say is first of all or else our rights. But also our stand ways people have to ask us to be nice if we have to I guess people around us again write letters. So we get to talk to people that you know. Georgia Tech has a lot of success story already like John McIntyre and they buy proposals and they usually get plenty of very good stuff. So yeah that's one thing I hear people are Catholic. Think about. Yeah I think so yes. Now I think what will work will do is the center of excellence will send it around to everybody who gives them their business card. Plus I think you might put that on the website right. Yeah. So you know no problem. Otherwise you'd also can contact me but I think it's best thing to be and also start the networking with Diane. Fortunately she will get more or less. Yes thanks for the question. Yes. I did not talk in my talk because I asked before. Whether you were in which area you were. There is an exception concerning the funding. With the hell's fame. A couple of years ago. I simply years ago now there was a discussion with. The former and I age director Mr SO WHO me and Al former commissioner Mr pitot snake. About the funding of the and I H. researchers and European researchers. And the funds go all out to European researchers and it was not the case with the European. The US researchers in Europe. So they made an agreement that for the famous was a prostitute agreement. So and this is unfortunately the only see which is a good example. But we're trying to use that now as a precedent for all the other theme but it's not there yet. So what does this current status quo because. One state has is if you are your pain researcher. In the U.S. proposal going to and I H. And it's positively evaluated you will get funding from and I H and B U S. And the E.U. researcher European researcher will also get funding from and I. If you apply to the European Commission house seen in a consortium with European researchers and U.S. researcher. And it's positively evaluated. It's funded fully by the European Commission that means funding of the E.U. researchers and funding by the U.S. researchers you don't need to fund things from and less from N.S.F. onto you. Because we will in out a medically fund you. Yes. I've been to couple of evaluations and I want. I would like to tell you is we do not have margins when you say OK you have to shoot this year for discussing the success right there as they are sometimes years where you have a lot of really good polls and you say should we have to agree on the first three. We'll get the funding but sometimes you have love. OK proposals and you know we're talking about European taxpayers' money and the evaluators tend to say you know we're not sure that you know this needs to be tweaked here and this is missing there or whatever that at the end. You have only very few passing. So if you can if there is every year. But we are trying to get them. We tried to say it the there are different kind of topics we try to get at least one topic funded in each. One proposal funding each topic because sometimes you kind of think not. So when they found this and this is the only one who merits funding so and it's we're trying to do that that we have at least one one topic one proposal so on which is not policy. You know it makes sense I guess. Yes. Yes No E.R.C.. Doesn't work. OK. Here C. will be YOU WANT TO ONE do a wonderful research on this space vacuum cleaner and you want to work that in the. University in Rome and you can apply and say go to Rome and say you know I want to do work on the. Space vacuum cleaner and they say yeah we would like to host you if you get the money so you will write a proposal and then you can go to Europe and work for the next five years with the money you've got on the space vacuum cleaner. That will be YOU that is you and you were the researcher. OK that is the cooperation program. Yes OK. Yes and you want to be part of the day. Yes You know so. He is the one. Yes here. Yes that's correct. It makes sense that you know these people. But you know it doesn't mean that you need to be. Existing project but if you know these people say OK we want to work on this might have our thing you wanted to work on you can create that. Yes but you have to convince the poor guy and Dolls him to say you know your record nectar and he has to say yes I'm going to be the coordinator. Maybe he will have an assistant or someone you call the paperwork because that's needed a person alone there P. I cannot do all the paperwork and I would recommend also to to get the services of a I don't want to say a lawyer but somebody who knows about those intellectual property things because you need to do it through a consortium agreement that's an agreement with all the partners to agree. You know what to do with you know all the knowledge you recreated make sure that you have something in place. Who does the patenting who will do the dissemination. I have to say that we fund. Patent lawyers refund audits we fund all these things but you have to put that in the in the proposal. So yes it's not for you but here for you. Are you can you. You know I'm just to find out a way how you could do it you know if you're not really. If confident are you working all the paper work you can get those people together and U.K.. And have a companies I don't want to endorse just now I just want to say this is an opportunity that companies are saying I'm doing the service and doing the paperwork for your project a small me your sized enterprises do that and go to that services and say you know we're part of the team and we're doing now the coordination paperwork. You have to coordinate up but you know you have a partner who does the cordon and the paperwork for you. Yes yes. That's your risk that they're. You know yes. It's brand management usually. Yes yes sometimes they do deals like you know if it's funded you give us a small if it's not funded you get us a small amount and you know if it's fun that you'll be the partner or someone that I want to endorse that but I don't want to say no you can't do it. Of course you as one person will not be able to coordinate and do all things you need people to help you but it's doable. Yes yes. And I really need. Even though she's back. OK one level ration card would you want to do this is there for us. I mean. You might buy it would you. Yeah. Usually as I want to say it's first of all the problem when people post see that. OK we need some additional funding how to do that in a coordinated way because the the deadlines are different and you know sometimes you have to weigh half a year maybe a couple of months or maybe a year hopefully not but that's usually a problem I have to say and what is the main problem is that if you have that we have gone to two cases siding where US entities applied with E.U. entities on F P seven proposal and they said Great Lao That's wait until it's evaluated of course the people who are evaluated positively. But the people in the United States would not even ask for money from N.S.F. and that takes now our year or so and now the people and in the European Union. Have a problem because they can start because the US profit has money so what they do about it. I don't know but what I try to emphasize when you talk to people say please contact your an S F program officer you want your huff and say I'm trying to work with the European entities. I'm trying to would like to get more money. Please help me to get the money and do that in a homicide way with. Which is in the time line awfully of P seven proposal that usually works. You call it. You're right. They're all wrong. I would love to but it's you know I you know I I for one boss and the other one is me so I it's not going to happen. What I do is N.S.F. because most of the research grants the people here have in the United said. Either with N.S.F. or with the U.A.E. or with NASA so. I currently. Prioritize on most of those efforts have a good relationship with them and to have an opportunity for them to for the United States researchers to get funding from them to have awareness that this is happening and they're very supportive and promote. The collaboration. Yes you know. All. We have. General rules about IP issues and the gen and the knowledge gained by the proposal by the project is owned by the participants. So it's own jointly usually. Where you have foreground and background that means foreground is all the knowledge again and background is what you're bringing in a poll it's more a. Managed so you can have access rights to each other. You should be open and have a. You know give each other. Access to to the things you need to know but these things I need to be done in the consortium agreement. And the consortium agreement is something where the commission thousand. You know we try not to interfere because all. Consortia are different. And there are different issues but we just give guidelines. What to address like I.P.O. issues dissemination ISSUES exclusive licensing all these things need to be addressed. And we have guidelines like this. Cloe are you know dissemination whether it yes or no is forty five days you can change that. Your agreement if it's true needs for the needs of your your colleagues and the proposal. I say. The good ones people with have looked at it before sending a proposal or before. Signing the grant agreement to have a thing and place and. Look at what what if what if one doesn't deliver what if we generate wonderful results that need to be patented. What if one wants to patent it the other one wants to disseminate the knowledge in their part paper. If you do that. Those kind of project will have no problem at all. It's something to be discussed between sending your proposal and signing the grant agreement after a successful evaluation you have at least one and half years or so to build that up. People who are false coming and open and discuss and do have no problems. The other one saying OK I didn't talk about IP are issues quite a problem. Now you know these have a problem. You know a week or so before signing. Yes and that's a problem the problem was we cannot saw solve the Walt Carnegie President Obama has this effort in simplifying the export control because and the end it hurts. American part of partners because you know you can't really deliver and that's a problem. So we would just wait for you know the simplified rules and try all of us wave the flag and say it would really help to work together. If that's issue been resolved because this has been grown to a bigger bigger bigger problem. But I'm currently trying to get around it and. Don't worry about this things. Here. But yes. Yes that's that's a problem but in I must say that the space area is a quiet young area for F.P. seven so. Carney we having. Yeah yeah so. They find out about it now. And now they have to you know the people in Brussels have to say OK how can we make this happen. And again we discussed this morning with people who are we. Policy oriented all do we feel action of course we are a big policy institution we think new ways of doing things but we tried to make life easier for researchers to get together to work together and to you know have good research and have now new projects in the future and so on but it takes a while to get this thing going coordination working together is a problem. You know is a challenge and second is specially when you have different cultures and you know and you have to travel through the pond are so makes it especially. Difficult but also when it happens we warding because people are happy and say great you know. These joint projects I'm talking about you know just also because they're the top of the pack. So.