[00:00:05] >> They are sure he has as Morissette. This work that I'm currently all with is really an extension up to book that I and some colleagues wrote for Centennial here before I meet the real Michael officer here Larry Forster on their injury is retiring on to greater things but she is one who are starting. [00:00:30] To really I'm going to use one particular piece of the resign in disgrace that is the struggle over reorganization to late night T.V. crew 19. But you wanted this to House race to March or questions from Turkey among us you could be facing people here lived through that period are still here like we all. [00:00:56] Are. You know just a researcher will questions about the inspiration behind. I don't believe it's hard for me to suggest that the inspiration for I'm president of 1987 to 99 or was the most prestigious controversial history to. Have resigned you see here John Patrick resigned. Became president after the death of Joe's mail had. [00:01:33] Died and said. Hat was senior vice president Klein you know university that's for sure you know all of this good work here is that for the Master's and Ph D. you left turning on a 3 year track post the University of Michigan for science and then you came from the record used to policy here in this call back to by the president sire and at C N. [00:02:04] You really see and number 3 is one of those was an area. He was extremely good to see and you can now open your campus as one of the national leaders on computation and. Now I show the slide because the search committee hired research was chaired by Ben Regents generated more memorable for the region's who's a self a business person who is and one of the strong things that was on Pat's Casi. [00:02:41] Order to detention for those was frightening people time Stephen Jones had been ousted from Apple Computer was in the wilderness with her for a new company called next or one of the writers next door Steven Jones on the left page was rolling little resigned on the right course to mash and that kind of credibility to him I'm not saying that's for the child but it was a work factor I think is sort of standing out from the crowd as we're. [00:03:17] Now. Trying to do 2 characters who are 4. In the context of the resigned presidency and the various controversy that exists around the world. Many critics among the womanizing and something you're in fact or critical factor in the star was Mark and engineer my technical person or a social scientist who did a very staunch claim to be a sociologist of scientists. [00:03:50] And Congress. His work has been drawn into the motif disappearing program Cmdr Please take some seats down here from Hong Kong. So. I want to make a point for equipment. Till one through all the president's trip to talk about the context the 1st president I said I was a cop going to be good enough for this minister the 2nd was a mathematician who had one degree from West Point one of the 3rd was a professor of English and the 4th who was the warmest. [00:04:27] President in my teen 2294 or you know what Dr Burkley was a high school Latin teacher and state superintendent schools so the 1st 4 presidents of this institution which are very timeless strictly in engineering school most or were not injured by the way this is a real relief with your life at the time of the Tech where homes should open this is mine too for far more people who are from you know where family here can the president 1944 was the 1st engineer. [00:05:05] And that was the midpoint of the school says you know at that point of course Harrison who succeeded here was an engineer would be a worse leader for computers there. Are Hansen was also the engineer here we tell you when he left from prison tonight it's a war zone and then of course just real. [00:05:32] Old really also represents a major figure a transitional figure in the distance in that meeting here in 1700 Stamford Bridge in the engineering are really I think is that man is most responsive really about writing cation research programs. Now after George Tenet's the acting president was. Reborn to work to care describe your benefit. [00:06:05] Him or. Vice President there with the fear there's 2 vice presidents and structure vice president sir and the worst president right here those posts rumors are all right Tom Styles. And $100.00 more profitable robots on humans. At the time like the sign was time even from the get go there were some alumni who really raised concerns about the fact that the sun was not an ingenue. [00:06:41] And people once a time I want to quote He meant to her for a bit as an institution and I don't think that's necessary now have. You got a larger better leadership or campus very strong he writes presence the president doesn't have only attributes that are all right. [00:07:05] Well. I've chosen to use that as my case study on this. Issue of restructuring this just for a breath of who's on the right and Mike Thompson who merged during the restructuring process and as a kind of pricing store with who needs. His real point the ferry was such a fine job he had done and really building my Aswan keyed into a mission problem for quite a bit I suppose money's good through complicated story really what it really was a group of gold. [00:07:49] My wife would become the co-chair of the Steering Committee we spoke to John talked about. Her At a certain point when Tom Stilson formally decided to step down. A lot of tension between Tom we. Are. Happy We're live in change rather really are against a changing we do need vice presidents to a single executive vice president so with Henry who are now the target of your view is the novice with vice presidents no more 1st essentially the same are we have today except their executive vice president room orphans in prose position are more. [00:08:39] Might would eventually of course be named right as executive vice president C timescales for. Now might discuss the issue of restructuring the Congress is said to be something like a phone in the spring of 90 media that still wants to watch listening trying to get a sense also of the universe. [00:09:05] Because side of that we could probably server our piece for the successful term without ruffling her. Were you decided. You wish to undertake something that was necessary to shake things up. And leave their temperament to go to what he saw as the next world which was to become a real prominent national and international. [00:09:32] There would have to be some on the mantel change. The word that most often has come to mind discussing these people I've interviewed Roger and as well I want to know your work on the work he seems to you I'm sure it will talk about. The. Work after people say that there was this vision almost immediately they might reflect on the anger. [00:10:05] It's harmony and sometimes less the bitterness that was gendered by the process rather than the ideas of this woman. Now. Comments about warming live with your GA Tech were really rather morally wrong. I just kept whether or not he had purchased orders from the administration on. In this book. [00:10:38] And at the time he said 3 No one thing people must remember clearly was that the regions was about the state of undergraduate education on campus a feeling that perhaps not just given this one spring when he was done with a 3 way pressure the current leadership spread relative to research the traditional reputation as an outstanding undergrad in yours or perhaps for some it's lost I want to take a moment just to give you the kind of basic argument here not the rightness of much of. [00:11:21] This was the college structure of Georgia Tech tonight to be on the eve of the restructuring Spera the university institute consisted of or how how the engineering which then as now was on board all the Architectural College of Management and then a bit of a mismatch this actual knowledge of science is a good slugs after all cells this school really grew out of it 1948 we were in session for good so all the general college kind of was natural because we name call cells. [00:12:03] Several decades later. Now. The precise reorganization experiment as it finally. Reached success for the Flight 99. As you can see from this chart saw 3 new colleges in the fresh expanding out of work clothes so we have a cauldron here of all the architecture we made in the Senate now have an independent vote out of science which was the model they want to know and I want to. [00:12:40] Ask what is. Computed which had been a school department if you will because it was now over to the status of college as in the good colleges to college with out schools without so. And then there was the iron out of college management policy and international affairs which existed $9092.00 never mind. [00:13:10] This was in essence amalgamation of more than the College of Management with the social sciences and humanities portions of the Gold Coast cells. Right now just to make sure the superior. This is what the college structure looks like today. Engineering architecture and science it's every man same as has been about what I'm going to talk a few minutes about model internal tension Turkey with the College of Management or career which we mentioned see her present when Cluff. [00:13:51] 99. 90 How are you managing this former status as a stand with college and Alan college now describes all everything on. How to. The. Situation is one where. Our management has just announced in the news papers a story so what or stories to change these are constantly going on things are. [00:14:28] OK now. Let me just read. A couple statements that were made by the time resign the Sweeney of 19 did up to. For example he said by adding breath warming or intellectual rays by having him lecture spread reprograms on technical errors in the behavioral social policy sciences and in the humanities for accomplish a lot of very modest editions of. [00:15:09] Hopeful care to be a Marvel or the peers who are those who do the spirit the Technological University for the next century I'm actually prevents that every college presidents period using some form of the result of each one. Titled the good versus the next. Now he also had tipped his hand early on what you were later confided to me was the one thing that you see some more action orders were soon direction or regions and that was going to graduate why for instance. [00:15:49] Holding the pack in the document are you paying for students faculty instead my hope is that somewhere between a philosophy that says will work can and should farm and work hard play hard wired fair. Georgia Tech for students in a quick to get through our weather student activities and social life only for your research or of our universe and it will not be neglected it's been scrubbed and ignorance and to create new that you can model OK. [00:16:25] This documents. Documents. To a fence which are in June of 98 here around the same time my wife who is the both of them were simple. Forces in what would unfold that some. This 1st section excerpts from the document aired by the then dean of the College of Management period did. [00:16:52] You propose that it can see in the organization Georgia with a specific national service or do you remember that college. Let me measure before actually steps that this memo are sent and burden the fact these orphans are in modern language school social sciences Thus your organization on school psychology with a competent management track. [00:17:24] To merging the faculty of cognitive psychology schools our culture or religion to the sciences. We. Change the current knowledge of science and the studies Cosell to how science is known and for all the focus we will worship our humanity matters and science. The other event was a true engine of a good shine the range quite tops. [00:17:54] And. From observing your ministers. A virus. Is the homes of chickenshit B.S. See OK sure I remember having. Somebody for the C.S. was very very involved in trying to pull them out of. My room and said Brenda understand. I can tell stuff of course we should definitely know this months ago and Pac Sun is still feels the very core of the recent focus waste of time. [00:18:41] But on the way back both agreed on the plane trip back there was a high level meeting where they talked about this idea of the organization and so since the US can resign and Morgan Jones was all over the world I'm going to actually came up with this one of this diagram is quite hard to read this is actually a diagram that was circulated to those prime time. [00:19:14] Sure. Told me the world on Friday July 29th right here where the science where the world was the 1st announced it would later be marking the boy hoax that the fact that this was done so many faculty out of the country I myself was a me I didn't know about this it's also true since. [00:19:39] And I'm going left it shows this idea is a rival that left once this college of international commerce and management and then. Here are the problem I have now school national public policy. Departments social sciences work and home economics in them. All I remember going to do this on our school site how are you workers they should be paying here this is to go for management go to. [00:20:18] School of Communications and culture who know English and modern languages and cultural anthropology I'm sure that came from wars together and less School of the city science is that that was the issue those Foggo a lot of them were decision scientists nice white decent management it was a lot of discussion to do this is so you never meant to talk more about. [00:20:45] Now the meeting itself had some tempestuous tones to have resigned announced to Tom Still since the story Tom told me about an hour before the meeting that Tom you're going to have to handle me because I have to go on a sailing trip with my kids and sometimes. [00:21:05] When you're going to handle the media I was not there but I've been told that people start saying what is this and Tom said the president says for the president once and this is what we're going to do now I've really got to like Tom a lot I do perform. [00:21:21] Particularly after. The nice man but he was a pretty kind of definite kind of gun it was not to comment on you remember his method of operation and power. Are going to leak out of your hole Roku so that we also know what was going on. This prompted pap to issue this document for only one. [00:21:48] Title of Ringworld or structure. You could read most of what. The summary at the end says it was you have here the size of this proposed work is an opportunity to mention what you want to form tears. Sure that changes are going to make sure that in the worst of the century as well as the present day also to go back exercises are also. [00:22:18] Decided with programs of the rights best little or we will. Have. Now. There were a number of voices on campus. So we're concerned about issues that will be ready. Among the most vociferous of was Professor George for the school has. How. He was well known figure in chaos you can also establish campus promotion. [00:22:59] And. Poor suit a little protest signed by 19 members school physics fact we saw on September 5th right here. The physicists and the WHO whether there were a Paul or the way that such a sweeping we were mistaken when. And quote scandal where the quotes attributed to him one or higher education are in August of 90 and soon after the 1st plan was announced there was a more neutral article on the education which was untrue. [00:23:40] And among the things that were a controversy it was posted to Georgia Tech's funding success and he stated that industry sponsored research especially of high technology areas is quote where the action is. And Chris out went on to characterize those who show or did contract search you for your of your research and. [00:24:04] Intellectual snobs and fool I was a little bit about run huge I won't take the time to get into what now but for decades the tension between certain members of the I know the family and certain members who were just yes I just know your right about huge contract the surge is going to hire people and so forth. [00:24:29] That Story Corps that. Now the dean of concepts of that time was less than a quality child on a mathematician who had come to Georgia to. Record through the school mathematics West with the person who was really the biggest loser of them all Jeff all this college was being got it going to be broken up until you. [00:24:55] So in September he formulated one whole university college one for the social sciences humanities physical sciences and pure science will remain a symbol of this group you know what this coast south would be preserved in some form has come out. A New College of Management and public policy wouldn't agree management decisions silence from management in the race war and. [00:25:26] Economics public and international policy this plan was announced on September 5th in my age there was a terrible faculty on September 27th 2 people that came out publicly defending Well you didn't have a problem dear good that was the last person I saw he was the director of the school social sciences. [00:25:49] And Thomas who was working in the School of Physics because we signed team our own. Totally rejected the side of the road you know all of this in this car. Answer not make sense question we are here to provide direct means and this to these calls for example perhaps a tyrant or one can have a public policy program that strong involve comics and some of the disciplines that need to go man. [00:26:26] On. This matter that chill for physics or written could prove to be all over in Europe or to come. Forward which was published to the Marriott deal. In which prophesies will bear on campus however there is a growing sense that the stage of being there will be major dark. [00:26:49] And indeed this is a certain way. Now. Once this was announced her response to France was that OK. Maybe we should hire a war for earlier on and indeed do not talk over a good interview with editor of the technique is to. Confess to the student that I actually spoke to or with a fairly good friend but you have to get the school now that it's time for the faculty you feel. [00:27:23] The argument will always now were being made that final 2 were simply out to pass after the fact on to the basic fundamental decisions are already made 10 committees will want to buy the president with the 1st was the restructuring steerage and the co-chair by and now executive vice president on stalls. [00:27:49] And my tongue. Now I'm not going to go through all these really stunning need for people to actually use one mage and a couple of others in a 2nd and a 2nd to keep the really challenging the new college. Of the man iron out how does NOT get the news through this. [00:28:12] George Tenet House review the drug use to lecture us or the school systems in the area where CO on their. Back to normal is the English part which is now says it when. They shared a new college with. An enviable job of trying to put together all these pieces into a coherent whole. [00:28:38] I did mention a couple of the people here in trade because she was a. Huge part of why the least she shared was called in the division to the. Countryside to come from Carnegie Mellon which is a very interesting place to Corning Tapio predecessor even though I was a technical school only start a farm program to find orchids they still have a wonderful beautiful program are called Andy Warhol for example one morning and Carol was trying to do something for dogs with new the vision committee that Miriam shared with so loved to have today use it for the welcome to the resolution of the power architecture that's with sure the Georgia Tech. [00:29:22] You are as a georgia tech wizard are the stories over there a little bit of artistic stuff going on so we will do them while our goalie hands for it was a very important figure and I think what being on the social science is going to take generally the funding group is technology he chaired the committee on some of the science. [00:29:44] I will mention one of the figure because. My research has led me to believe that Fred's a side by side of was a key figure in the story in many ways. He was the chair of the science group good recommendations for how do science that was a difficult job in my opinion to mathematicians to physical scientists were really pleased as Punch they were very happy about having this new structure and I would argue until I am arguing the cause of Sciences has problems and I believe sciences are much stronger I'm sure to do more harm and generally work so it was a Georgia Tech undergraduate left here and I want to. [00:30:28] Have work in the works you know down the burning of American physical chemistry also was heavily involved in supercomputing of the 2 things going on here and by the way of the Museum of that's right you know you are going to post documents with both of them and you want to point is that one boy came back he was playing the role of number one for the research here is on campus. [00:30:53] Kristen tapped him to cheer me on Sciences in 1902 January mining to name the vice president for information service position him. In June of 1902 pilot died of a heart attack at the steps of the School of the good tragedy. Where I took to happen. Almost tearfully said you know that's when things really began to go down the drain I'm going to. [00:31:22] Majstorovic by 1000 or 2 is not just your position the number of other issues that arose. Things were really coming to Paul but so was maybe the last person in the administration kind of slow to still have a good network in school was a quick trusting person so his boss had we really heard. [00:31:46] Happen quite a bit I just if we had a time to the supposed to do it 1516. There is this series of sponsored by bioengineering on it right. Now. The next couple slides are the recommendations and I'm going because of the time that came out of these various theories that. [00:32:10] We get each committee sent its decisions and recommendations to the steering committee chaired by skulls and Mike Thomas and then they want to add to that house. Joe Perry is president of something called the president's cabinet which consisted of all the upper level boost rich president vice presidents Deans associate vice presidents were recently sent from that is to should remain to be Administrative Council the problem with that was the one of the situations down from Africa Council really discreet about so the many faculty members that always felt that this was part of the top down the system that was really on the right. [00:32:58] You can see that most of the Essentially we hear through how do you suppose science is here it's better. Here's a breakdown when programs this is the actual document that was circular here because this was prior to a vote taken by time. And here you see the Iowa college with its service on its. [00:33:28] Own. Norman Johnson one of the engines we. Had worked with practically son or you know who was sociologist of state he was involved in more the figures are you know and one of them is a special assistant to the presidency in $98.00 we did. Norman became a lightning rod and then wait it was a point man a number of projects. [00:34:00] It was a very controversial figure very much involved in the tech world Holmes project very much related to the books and what their normal also was a conduit. Guy who from arms during this period of getting this new program how come from the communities through the fact and yet this has more of the. [00:34:27] New industry structure. Now. There will come out. Of my time the support of the Academic Council a sign of a process has faded and interest in programs us please and that there was a good spirit LOL probably let me search for the self by a lot more of those who want to argue the point about where my food is NOT say that those who are better Fisher is with the people like maybe. [00:35:01] The social science is now a good program status. Was sort of going with the flow. Of the College of Science People are generally very happy there were many Imagineering of the drug directly affect them that were very concerned about a 0 sum game to what extent would programs the expenditures detract from the only Georgia Tech that was some it was also their home with. [00:35:31] The campus no worse still so what are. One friend want to make sure we flew out of the diversion here despite. Being the place in the morning went on the national championship see me in Jackson. Hat or who was good who can to a limited scope Georgia Tech never properly. [00:36:00] It's position in Atlanta. And one of the strains that once the number of the decisions is this or I can do a better job higher profile Georgia Tech in this state. And I just want to show this picture. For them John's. About the issue now I have to. [00:36:27] Be decided I didn't know. How we were going to go told. The. Dean of Cosell those who are going to see him early on all announced his resignation talk with a person on. Syria on all those. Western Washington tragic less who died of cancer Western Europe. I don't have the time all this for some other concurrent things going on particularly in the development office other offices on campus were packed was in the reputation of being a rather are posed insensitive manager. [00:37:19] That people believe in computers were to share so although I'm focusing on restructuring I need to know that there was really well swirl of controversy about style as much as it's about substance about the style of management that was being used here. Now. There was a chair of the executive board of faculty. [00:37:48] And there was a. MEDIATOR itself May 23rd or 19 people know. Where the seating shared by the president General faculty. It was the Aquarian of the whole it was chaired by. Jane tomorrow that allowed high priests on to take a role in the media as an adult. And it was a leading luge God political test for this profession. [00:38:19] And one of the issues that was how the election process would see you know rape exactly were maintained that it was the executive not sure to supervise such might. Have resigned was 10 times getting about up to the front. Only the academic faculty to be told issues of academic significance on campus but we have a general for. [00:38:51] Many motorists for whom academic faculty teaching. Is part of the water. All over G.G. You are right our research. Since the ninety's is just what we driven very badly we had a power. Back That's right yes but he he he released back resigned because of a charitable reactivating called the local paper the only member of the night and that's probably what I was getting here is one of those hours before you go out who was all that insisted that there will be a working call a whole take the nominee Democrat soon that the board you're in close one. [00:39:41] Democrat and there are $46.00 points to a general right besides what's going on. Well things got very testy with long johns and members of the SEC good old son. But formidable. In brutal are. Now the center of the 3 stated proposition of both of your guests proposition one the vision the force of the College of Architecture very well known as who was there and on the fact. [00:40:21] That care for our 66.5 points that's about the number 2 is more controversy culture science is a high ground knowledge of management policy and fair use now that struck the bell this where you Soledad. Before people who are in the sciences vote for that provision if it had been screwed to the work. [00:40:48] That passed by a sliver of margin to 652 or 3. The 3rd proposition was the college of computer and that was created. With a vote of. 262 on. The Senate. Now. Without going into all the details there were a number of balanced scoring was signatures were legible on them. [00:41:23] There was a controversy over cool it was allowed to over who was a member of the ACA It's been a complex stuff there was a great bitterness between the executive order of the president's office and the executive board meeting for all of our motion was passed to declare the election no good for. [00:41:44] A vote was taken by one vote of that motion was seated and in that motion. In the interests powers and ourselves and each time a vote. Had resigned to change the structure from tomorrow's president's team on the sashes had not yet to change and so do the share of the general fact you are allowed to go through the system the statutes give 2 votes to the vice president so hold on for now I'm giving you a quick and dirty version of the story all of these things or how to do kind of nastiness to the good sense so there was controversy about every step. [00:42:30] Now it's also very clear about the most up. To what extent was faculty voting a 1000000 required. It was a mystical forward to the region which was the next step the conventional wisdom was that it had to have approval of the fact loser to be unconventional is the memory of this when I. [00:42:53] Got the file and where readers could pretty much do what they want to bet they could It is certainly possible that they could there was no guns this is a what if Congressman you know why you can't have a moustache in the mile you don't quite know what was occurring or from the science perspective cause of the book it was a slim book that was. [00:43:19] Now. College America was the was the source they continue to fight this they maintained that under represented structure and really were well down to was the big were the big losers they have enjoyed a collegian for time the structure of their own for years and now there will be relegated to being a school in the I won't come out so well see see good communication culture H.T.S. whining good management on the organizational chart or at the same level of. [00:43:55] Control. There are no more family members and very angry for all our picture up here because friends still run the lot and for it to be someone who actually tried to work for solutions. My former colleague part of Green was another person very active in this has a great deal of criticism of the process how this was done and those are good and follow what has recently announced an interim dean of the I don't know how much of a management policy today there are a while family member of the extract of advisory board attack on this and why is President Proctor and Gamble. [00:44:40] From Cincinnati Ohio but with no end to the reported misprinted experience one of my former colleagues for most locals. Competing to be part of the College of Management was furious because of management was trying to work with them just trying to do these 2 poor guys with the guys in the back where Ali man. [00:45:07] Story became the assistant dean to be chairman and he was representing the new new social science for the part of just this summer and for the target we had a columnist was really really saying interests manager of Roseboro spec Why are afraid of Texans good friends of the range of time work very well together and they tried to do a lot to bring the situation. [00:45:36] Precisely was under fire. The matter of fact will be soon how a letter to thousands of long run. And students complaining a rock resigned making accusations all sorts of mismanagement about Tucker city about on willingness to do the right principles seizures and as I said who are over here and no I'm doing this this is where it's hard to treat this issue completely outside the realm of other forms of controversy going on you know the upshot of this was that which side. [00:46:19] Won this battle in the sense that finally this structure came into what's. One story that's worth telling the world. Is the 1st meeting of the. Faculty I don't know how. Heard of March 15th 99. And the latest dean of close up was Bob Rock. Was a campus a well liked our campus I don't know anybody who might pop up here was an opportunity for chemists to bring up our age to try to get everybody together and Bob and I was there and it still sounds proceeded to and so the reason for my making the comment that Matt really was the last chance for Georgia Tech students who could not succeed in engineering you know. [00:47:14] How to hold back from talking to the stranded wall and things really got hurt. Rather I'm using a one time so yes. When I got here in 93. When I was doing it in architecture with a college liberal arts there was the dean of the college a little arts and a person called the. [00:47:38] Dean of the School of Management his title was actually Dean so you had to Dean your way Abigail had. Was a match with the SO said they said look this is the document and then we have a director and the normal management schools all around the country says the dean of the medical school or college with us finally under fire for some new concessions said OK we'll call the director of management a D. so I managed to piss off everybody. [00:48:11] And certainly for the money at the end of these folks they're not really getting what they wanted which was a high degree of autonomy you're absolutely right. Then a bar or order was an executive residence called Coles going to take the child over to the management that he and his son made the deal so Bob can announce it to both dean of the I don't know in college and did you know that. [00:48:37] Their hard craft was put in there without ever one of the 100 killed 20 square footage of him everywhere that's the score is very long but I'll tell Chris on the songs. In January of 99. Cents a letter of resignation hopes for a. Chance to proceed before stuff in 2 months. [00:49:09] It will all stuff going on higher well. I must say a good one to be sure I have not mentioned today is Georgia Tech's financial manager. Recently coming under scrutiny by the border regions and with green cloth will be handed this more to workers when he became president I know that because I'm searching higher. [00:49:31] Quality of course for the 1st Georgia Tech right to be president and the 1st through the Georgian president here's where you Bill. Mike let me have this a fun day or just throwing out some ideas. Like this but. I don't care he was clearly good but it's a compliment which I don't like. [00:49:58] A change here in Washington for different kinds of merriment songwriters who are very eager to maintain stability and building more out for others of the community here who will blossom. 96 Olympics clearly important matters we saw. He got started on a little the 1st day he was on campus going pain came to see him and this kind of stuff. [00:50:27] You will be torn which is no one Saxon. You know Will soon as one of the most. Signs of the. Tory West Campus forms the dormitories that you see in the bricks overnight that's. Double the size of your residence your campus changing the whole complex of the skins to make it less of. [00:50:56] More of this is how the 1st for me was again I'd much rather be as interested in new york very much like this. 9090 point for a solution the bridge that took place running the scenarios where most Americans I was going to start here are I am here. [00:51:18] It's a question where's. The recurring this campus I think road we sunk to mention was part of the range of the freshmen experience with horrible kind of talk about this whole idea of changing the atmosphere for years Georgia Terkel one mile per hour to boot camp. The towel here will soon to no longer you dear but did you graduate without a gun Helen 48 other than 64 years witnessed a group of people come. [00:51:49] To work to change the image of little Tara 1st record sure the Research Alliance was a very low carbon there along with dramatically worse Georgia the G.R.U. has been very instrumental in developing our bilateral hearing a number of new initiatives of research on the campus that was you know it was a motto here you see shut me up and teach Georgia take you to collaboration for family members the idea that now the teacher are looking for options for example the entire purpose you know being something many of you came to work with a truck America we saw together working to achieve the jihad your San Francisco communications technology which is going through a transition now but not go to over 14th Street that was directly going up will happen resigns ideas and you should draw detector right Hans put you in this really person to have this happen the response watch it fit into these notions of globalization many of these ideas also came out of the international committee that was chaired by Linda Gray which is one of those 10 committees that I mentioned on. [00:53:00] Undergraduate research programs again but you know undergraduate experience is something we talk about a lot to the size of the far right to start with the most pain of course up to the last you know Cosell the 1st day in college science started. Science This is the only year our campus just carry through 12 education on coastlines. [00:53:25] Manufacturing Research Center the concept of putting people into work groups of course to disciplinary board junction model talks a lot of the John Lewis going to remember this one Wolf. Here is the story from much of the talking about this issue there is no immediate proportion of water content would be socialist or alcohol while engineering. [00:53:51] Cristiana were the 1st month the president presents a committee which you can call on campus to movers and shakers committee there to find a list of my prior research projects of the 1st one was part of the technology and that was my team did it so the bottom here for example were conquered for a leader and this was still it was not done in a lot of things. [00:54:19] And so we're going to of course right now with white waffles this is a bow Goodness I suppose this project. Was. Also out of the towel already existing building from what we can assume. We wrote it might do for the school was founded on the mission of trying to bring about this issue modernity to the self which was existing as a beautiful town but. [00:54:53] That's true of those who are poor we should tell suburban home and so in this sense there is continuity with the story I must say to conclusion that the passage of time like this may be somewhat were soon. I believe I can appreciate more some of the things that we tried to do the issues really where you vision. [00:55:19] With style and process which was goes across the system so. Thank you for. Pointing. That the. Wealthy are. A residence I ask you for a list of years and 4 ordeal for what he maintains an apartment in Atlanta and then he sits on the boards of civil concrete and these walls this is our completion as an investor but it's quite a lot of the financial mess I have fortunately there were 2 deaths or months ago he was diagnosed with colon cancer so I have been out of touch with him for a couple months and so trying to do. [00:56:07] What I can say this and they go on with trends confidence he remains quite a better by the number effect. I have some quotations from his final statements from this critical part is that. It is said Tahn own he labels himself as a change agent and he believes that there were entrenched interests in Georgia Tech with. [00:56:36] These traction trusts historically more powerful moment involved certain systems in the way things were done and he feels perhaps rationalized this is the words. That the place was not quite ready for some. Big surprise I know some people have to be. So where I was asked to do this was to do rare for discussions one hears you for a book if any you don't want to miss the general fact you just don't that's from what you know the concert yesterday just the middle of. [00:57:17] Winter morning. We're still on the. Well I don't know how many of the police 1st of all. Richard Boucher wasn't well I guess it is now wasn't best to look in the US. And the number of course that. Good on ISSUES this played a role undermining the recent war on this campus in the border regions and mostly along now. [00:57:52] The stories that Richard Graham we're most down to we have to have some issues to talk to them because formerly personally they involve some very high profile court cases involving the service of some people in the world with us and soon the success of course the fire for us. [00:58:16] And that's through a very very very rich culture pick up on this constant movement of stories lines from the campuses of Americans so I don't think I'm being unfair West and certainly do not imagine for a 2nd your wish there were fairly. And I might mention that on this current as a present front but once this thing happened for one of the people said OK let's sue them to make. [00:58:50] Sure none of the political folks signed but there was a lot of warm. Water for her and. We started here posting in the midst of the storm the Georgia Tech because the 4th best school management says. That not you're. Not going to. Guess. That it's very very high. [00:59:28] During an attack is something else to talk about that they're really going. To be judged on the vice president but. Yes. Do you know of the. Fellow A.B.C. News how the moderator I just said welcome all of you to Georgia Tech University I remember those that are going to while sports commentators say. [00:59:57] That would be my her. Let me say this is not directly to your point. But. I'm certain there are levels in the. Process something that kept coming up was. To be very careful about what we push as a nation. Over many decades there been established a principle. No problem or tradition else that in the state to show them show the. [01:00:32] Sense of brotherhood OK sure. Georgia Tech is the engineering school I like to call one of our former heads of trustees. Who. Wants them on the show you know hands up. And so by having problems with international affairs having programs in programs and so this was perhaps getting us the other side of their point was that University of Georgia was not to have any engineering programs by the way or the sort of thing that's happening right now George is pushing their own. [01:01:12] On the Internet. Now Lester question for us I think to change the name to do worse would. Soon your challenge for the job. That will do for you. You saw to me what I've got some wonderful quotes from long. Ago when these new programs I mean by the border regions have a clue why the. [01:01:39] Various committees on our campus and by the faculty senate and then board according to common Georgia Tech alone the said we're going to have next in Georgia Tech physical education and I was required to do 152 with really the 1st admitted a member of the rich and said Well now the women have their nose under the tent it won't be long before we have home economics. [01:02:02] So there was always this tension sometimes I like that that people would have to resign in a sidestep sometimes for good right. And for stupid or warm. To me the following afternoon for a warning to mission of the Universe programs was not the smartest. If we were going to really become a mission player and I think that has occurred under the tech press corps of presidents last year none to the more wise and right. [01:02:39] That you won't be reasonable one of the reasons has been disproven in the front seat was the change is a strong. It's. Just. One of the one of mine I was on the holiday or the middle one of my own what I might. Get is a look at your real vision when really that it go far enough that in fact resign life you know that life is in your area limits altogether 1 May be very far the market on earth organize the schools the information the knowledge the life here. [01:03:21] Was there ever a consideration of that believe you know that there are people thought that without. God I think that was retiring right just like my take on not getting that they'd begun to see there were already pushing him more than. As for as they could go in the engineering college for the most part it's a kind of sweeping John. [01:03:45] And I must say that when I served on the undergraduate curriculum and the time that we transition from orders to semester. I was appalled by the whole lighting of introduce some engineering schools really took on seriously that some little bit of were killed the others just for the courses through the order came out simple things so you know one of the very difficult thing to level of integration I don't know how it made you hear that possible crisis of experience. [01:04:21] But. This was the genesis really right yeah yeah I know the recommendations cover the road built into the vertical It was the you know the one here you know me coming back there is one area this is the solution students. Because that was the number this one Max Heights where he managed. [01:04:46] To see you know growing warmer came around the hood also but yeah there was a that was it possible that this one but I missed where he was not now I don't want to personally and I want a good comrade was it for. The school system. And there was a lot of concern for. [01:05:15] My criticizing don't. Do forms different folks out coming up and finally you hook up. With. I just want to comment on the sensitivity about the implication of programs yes when I came on board and moved from the architect. To the Clarks I still have charge and still have to be the P.R. officer of the college and I was explicitly told at that time this was after the change for management that we still should not call ourselves. [01:05:53] A I've been an ecology of a liberal arts that was something that. Should kind of come in through the back door so to speak now we're happy with it now but it was very much a slow process and very deliberate one and we've got very explicit instructions from the highest authority not to so for a while why were the IRA to have a college period of you fill in the blank and I don't know if you remember that's what I mean we spoke publicly as a code for I spoke out against. [01:06:27] To get out I was so conditioned by the battles that I'm too many years old. When I speak to younger faculty now I'm wondering why was this when I was 12 I was small minded of you know both like really it's a different home for us to branch. [01:06:47] Recently and I was really big. On. How many constraints. You know this was 2000 I was being told be careful you're still best if. You know this is a sure job I put some. Time still so it's hard to be you know type response since he. Says. This is really the guy we've got to continue to talk to have a job it's a different job search. [01:07:26] Joe. Did an intellectual force when you came to you should. Reject. This vision it's so. It's necessary in my view both of them to know the process. Here it come in the court of rigid rule change with respect to hiring presidents as a result of this one. Well I'm trying to get like exactly what you're thinking of I'm going to change the structure of the search. [01:08:09] Terms of hiring. One particular bill they can no longer to. Go and if a committee has tenure moves to that position they have to give it up to fix it let me tell you my understanding of since I remember getting involved in a conversation with Bill Sykes at the time the resign Quest time. [01:08:35] And joke that it was never a time you're going to tackle the issue of if. You do not. Like the question that's right but power here he he was. Decided he wanted it to be changed and we have voted a different turn you're just more fact the one I'm like Well again I'm not sure it should be off base I don't believe he accepted he may not accept it but it was our deputy treasury secretary Well I know that there are those because I've certainly Vice President's been good. [01:09:12] And. At the time the things we'll be doing to get difficult to work had decided he needed to get some cover and. Question 10 he was right enough said we're going to be able to focus off to. Get it right co-chair that meeting like OK after the end of the year. [01:09:38] This is. Tested here to the effect it would go until the fear. Got here are you don't is not going to do is it reinforced by words for me. To never accept the premise what was used for a little different to do the opposite of our society certainly it was for their benefit we did vote. [01:10:02] On. Well. The policy is not clear this is not. My one charter map and come to university GA moralists room and see who's next to my son on. Your. Gun so control. What you are junior. Of. Him There is a feeling that he is too young now to do good will be a really weird. [01:10:38] Moment for. Some reason or worse. How old you. Are or how almost anything it's a question who's. I mean it's 56. Years old and. He also had a great interest in Linux was the 1st. Court room person and actually close. And this is why all the it's really good or. [01:11:16] Really good to go. To theory asks if you were the 1st 100 pounds into a charge of a personal life con the swimming role in your course is forced to of course. And so agnostic or for better or worse is home they remember the circle. Kohlberg nice to be here on. [01:11:42] The very coach of the suit. Jeff was. Working in which Jeff serving very. Very badly he said this is my home for probably 3 or 4 vention never want to quit that talk talk talk then the other issue of course was the. Many more or was the final deal them coffee store that. [01:12:15] Was the tour. Act storms or. Gould Number 2 we're going to be close. Enough it will be great. But. There's a supreme irony. Of course a lot more money than they are going to come with their car for to ask Aaron because Georgia Tech joining the suit store with the seconds to say man you're the smallest nothing can stay. [01:12:54] Here home buyers. Were on different sides of the issue. And keyed along the lines court records were kept not particular issue sure there are legions of lawyers. And that was the very moment where I sometimes for. The 1st year or 2 for. Those 1st hand but faculty opens we are purely for leisure that's for anything else. [01:13:31] But then began to irritate suits and I'm still a big deal even though they're going to take me to get a tour of the world here. Demanded his resignation then I got your attention to Joe for the worst. But still. Really was at that point. A long. Time to. [01:13:58] Turn. Where he committed murder time about age what $4000000.00 been asking. For well that was or. Is he had the word of the F word since the proof of the expenditure of money concentration regions. That. There were a number of issues having to mention. Financial management on the campus with all fairness it was back to the job her. [01:14:37] I'm going to give you will common. Years and years of places financial. Management one by some very nice guys here for years progress real rushing to the sleeves rolled up my dimensions to me and come up with the Premier's to kill the announcer honey and complex super funding for the extra one is. [01:15:02] Coming here in a kind of outstripped really are a management system that puts on him really in the last year or a half will have its presence he was under a kind of spring or your relationship work and some additional commitments from day to us and financial services companies. [01:15:26] We soon came in. It was modeled for us and in fact I'm not saying this is the case with charges that in fact. In the room you see you sit with forms. That is. How what. Is Top Model. Where is. Your. Mother. Or not. There was a lot of talk about yours in the US before you go. [01:16:08] On just this. Question. Of where you would want to step up with the question what was the stuff going on. The whole has been because of course part of the story you are probably your worst those were from the so part of. What all of those no serious. [01:16:37] Discussion about. This. Was a lot like whatever works for 4 years on. One of my personal to consumers. You know. Nothing very much.