So please put your hands together and join me giving this kid a warm welcome thank you. Ari on Iraq had a good afternoon everybody first of all I need to thank John Stanford at the done in technology and management program for energy you see me to dory and I definitely need to think dory for being willing to take a chance on a rookie like me joining the stage with lots of other prestigious speakers and leaders in our community so thanks to both of you also thanks to all of you for being in the audience today I know how crazy and chaotic your schedules are between school demands family job sororities fraternities projects I have I get it so thank you very much for being here I plan on speaking to you for about thirty five minutes today and then we'll do Q. and A for as long as they let me stand up here sound fair OK great let's take a look so our agenda we're going to talk a few minutes about me want to make sure you guys know a little bit more about who in the world is on stage speaking with you today so going to give you a little biography also going to be speaking a few minutes about Al Anon the company that I work for and then we're going to spend the bulk of our time in a section I call about life so we'll dig into that and about ten minutes and then we'll wrap up with Humanae and feel free to ask anything you want whatever floats your boat is a OK with me I will do my best to answer your question to the best of my ability. So about me. I was born in one nine hundred seventy three. And that may seem like a really long time ago when you get to be forty two it won't seem that go so be nice and at the time my dad was a graduate student and he was getting his degree and geology so we're big fans and my family when I was a young toddler we made a short trip to. Illinois all I remember about that state is the blinding white of winter and a very puffy snow suits that's it that is the sum total of my experience in Illinois from there we moved to the Lone Star State where my dad began working for NASA as a geo chemist and it was the time of supporting the shuttle program and rockets and studying moon rocks so it was a wonderful time to be involved in the NASA community and at that time my family and I only had one car I know it's almost unheard of in today's families but nonetheless we had one car so every afternoon my mom would have kids of my younger brother and I and ship a soft to NASA and we would wait for Dad to wrap up his day and if we were a little bit earlier he was busy wrapping things up we would play at the base of rockets that were displayed out of doors talk about building your innovation capability right and hats off to my mother who is so remarkable at helping us build our imaginations she let my brother and I soar in terms of our mental thinking there were no limits to what we could do when we were growing up and that was really wonderful foundation for me from there we moved to a little town just south of San Francisco called Half Moon Bay beautiful coastal small town right there along the beaches you could surf and ski all in one day it was fantastic. My dad at the time was working for the U.S. Geological Survey out of Menlo Park and so science was always a part of our life so between my mother's imagination and her soft skills and my father's. Repertoire of hypotheses and structure it was a wonderful balance for my brother and I to grow up and as a kind loving warm and imaginative family I'm often asked what was your first job and how old were you when you got it well at the ripe old age of twelve. I asked my parents for more allowance. And I was promptly denied no way. And I asked again can I please have some more loans. If you want more allowance you need to get a job what I'm going to school I'm already babysitting on the weekdays in the weekends I just want more money so my greed was met with another denial and so I thought well I've really got to think about this so the next day I mustered up enough courage to march into the administration office at the junior high and ask for a worker's permit and I presented that to my parents that night and I think at that moment they knew they were in trouble and they knew that they had a very ambitious young woman on their hands and they were going to be in for it and I think I prove them right over the next several decades. Nonetheless within a couple of weeks after they signed my worker's permit I'd signed my mom at a job at a local upscale boutique in town it was a wonderful kind of clothing store lots of Pendleton products if you've heard of that brand so on and so forth I did everything from gift wrapping to cleaning the bathrooms to inventory to stocking the employee refrigerator whatever worked and it might sound rather silly and simple now but at that point at twelve years old earning my own paycheck being part of a pact like that making a contribution I was in love with working absolutely love with it and I've pretty much been working ever since so from that meager start I went on to work for a buy can toy store in town I learned how to build bikes it was great because then you could build a bike and head out to the hills and go for it right and all the way down the beach and I also worked at a beauty supply store in the latter half of high school so by the time I finished high school in one thousand nine hundred one I roughly had six years of working experience behind me and that amount. Only was unusual at that particular time but it felt great and it gave me a whole new level of confidence in terms of where my skills were where I felt most in the flow and my life purpose began to take shape at that point in the form of serving others so more on that later. From San Francisco I decided to move around the Bay Area a fair bit I went to college at Sonoma State it's a very small school nestled in the hills of northern California wine country it was a wonderful college career and I actually graduated at the degree and sociology I started out pre-med and ended up in sociology I know that's a bit of a shift that's OK We'll talk more about that and the About Life section as well but nonetheless I graduated college and something just wasn't right I explored retail management I explored being an executive assistant I went into recruiting I had a lot of fun I made a lot of friends I learned a lot but something just wasn't quite right yet until I found a sales operations role for a medium sized technology company in the Bay Area and I was in love absolutely in love with it and so even though I really enjoyed the role my heart wasn't really happy at that time the hustle and bustle of the Bay Area just wasn't quite right for me and so I ended up finding my way to the Peach State in two thousand and one and I've been here ever since and it's definitely home to my heart and so in two thousand and one I began another adventure and sales and marketing operations and found myself within that role of Pirbright e of companies and absolutely enjoyed it I loved being able to support the front line whatever that frontline wanted because I didn't want to be them I just wanted to support them. I didn't want to quote I just wanted to make sure they reached their trade there's a different. There's a really big difference and so I really enjoyed that I also began working for a consulting firm I know many of us students are very interested in the consulting world and that was a lot of fun too it was then twenty ten though that I recognized that I needed to change one of the constant themes with my management staff over the years had been Katie you were constantly challenging the status quo you just never let it go you are so dedicated to continuous improvement you were weariness out and so I thought well maybe I need to find a role where I'm supposed to be doing math right maybe I need to find a manager who really isn't threatened by that but really wants me to do that so luckily I found a role at L. of on and I have been happy as a lark ever sense. So this next slide is something that requires me to expose my sensitive underbelly OK like a wild animal like a hedgehog OK. And here's what I did I'm a big believer in voice of customer right any time you launch a product anytime you're going to put something out into the world for people to consume hopefully before you do that you've checked in with the people who are going to consume it so hence voice of customer voice of partner works very much the same way OK And so I thought well if I'm really going to live what I believe then I should incorporate that into my impact speech so I did so I asked roughly twenty of my colleagues for five to ten one word descriptions of me I didn't pay them I didn't provide them with any samples I said give me the Good the Bad and The Ugly and here's what I ended up with now much to my surprise there's not a lot of Leo. And that moment when I realize not only did I receive the specific feedback back that I asked for. But the paragraphs of information and the examples they gave of why the. They picked those words it was fascinating I'll admit it I went home and cried right because I was simply so grateful that not only was I a relatively decent person. Right I could give this to my mom so she could put it on the refrigerator but. You did OK Mom Really you did that you know it's the most insightful thing you could possibly do so your first challenge of the day is if you're really curious about what people think about you ask them just ask right. Even if it's not so great even if it's something that you're a little uncomfortable with the things you will learn about yourself and about your relationship from that it'll take you a long way. So with that we'll talk about al of on for a couple of minutes and then we'll dive into the bulk of our material. From an element standpoint we're wholly owned subsidiary of US Bank U.S. bank has a presence in roughly twenty five states some of you looking a little quizzical about us they too but that's because Georgia's not in U.S. banks footprint that's OK nonetheless we're still the top five Global Payment providers we have over a million customers globally we do business in many many countries around the world some of our recent expansions have been in Mexico Brazil and Spain we're very proud to share that Fortune magazine has voted us the most admired super regional banks several years in a row and we're very hopeful on this fire to earn that again from a number standpoint we have over four hundred billion dollars in assets and over sixty thousand employees globally so not too tiny. And terms of why Ellen is a good match for me well for me it starts at the top it starts with the caliber of leaders that we have at our company of which there are many and I'm extremely fortunate to work for this company. Richard Davis is our C.E.O. he start. As a teller in his late teens and worked his way all the way up it's taken him a couple of decades but he did it right and one of the things that I greatly admire is that loyalty a sense of service and he really helps build a wonderful culture within our organization. Our company has also declared and defined very specific core values and these are actually very personally important to me I try to incorporate them in every initiative every project every relationship every interaction Sometimes I fall off the bus to some of my colleagues here will tell you but I just try to leap right back on right like a moving train just get right back on. Those values include we do the right thing we power potential we stay a step ahead we draw strength from diversity and we put people first not a bad list of things to aspire to every day right. Philanthropic and to activity our company is very dedicated to serving our communities at any time there are dozens of opportunities around the word world for live on and US bank employees to dedicate themselves to the needs of others and that's one of the reasons I greatly identify with our company we're also very dedicated to continuous improvement hearken back to my managers who told me you're just you just never stop changing so great so this is a piece of our company that greatly speaks to me from a personal level the role matches my strengths being within the product an innovation organization has been wonderful I get to meet with partners I get to work with the done in technology management program I get to do all sorts of wonderful things for the overall growth of our product portfolio and that is really wonderful Also my management chain I got to really hand it to people like Laurie Hawke me surface my direct supervisor she has me head she knows exactly what will make me thrive she knows what makes me Wilton Winston Nash my teeth right and she tries to provide me with. A wealth of opportunities to experience a little bit of everything and for that I'm very grateful. All right the goal the thing about life when Dorry asked me to speak to you today I had so many different ideas I got into brainstorming mode and for any of you who've been in that mode you just know that ideas start pouring out of you right and you may not know exactly what the right it is yet but you've got a lot of stuff on paper to shuffle through and so what I ended up doing was trying to put myself in the seat of a student and thinking Well golly if I was twenty something years old probably an undergrad student what on earth would I want to know from someone on stage and so I decided to look back at my life and decide what were some of the topics that I would want to know what are some of the life lessons that I would want to incorporate earlier in my life so that I could truly thrive instead of just struggle and survive and just get by so these are some of my personal experiences as we move into the section couple of warnings though one they seem simple they're not easy OK so consider yourself more two just because I'm up here talking about them doesn't mean I'm a master I still consider myself an apprentice I still consider myself to be learning these things as well so bear with me as I go. So number one. Know yourself and what I've done with each of these is also pair with a question to ask yourself and there's a cheat sheet at the back if you just want one pager on all this but know yourself ask yourself what are my strengths there's a lot of assessments available to us today and it's important to pick the right one but they're available online many are free many are available through your professors and your different programs and classes take them by all means please take them OK for that I have had a lot of success with myers briggs posit a mentality. Since Strengths Finder and foresight each of them are complementary to one another but I do encourage you to explore them consider taking them because they'll be a wonderful part of your personal perform portfolio and once you know your strengths lean into the right get good at articulating them so that when you're in interviews that when you're meeting new people that you can speak strongly to them OK our culture tends to be very hyper focused on our weaknesses right you can have a thirty minute performance review twenty five minutes or glowing comments about how awesome you are the last five minutes or one of the little space for needs improvement and then you spend the next six months worrying about that right and then you forgot about the previous twenty five minutes of awesome this so lean into your strengths think about it like being in a car you better look through the windshield a whole lot more than you do the rearview mirror so your strengths are forward your weaknesses are behind you it's still important but don't roll around them OK. Next follow your passion ask yourself when my most and the flo one of the best examples I can think of this is my brother in law his name is Chris stuff he's the lead singer of a band called Christophe about the Grange one of the great things about him is that he lives a standard corporate life by day right no one would know except for maybe the long hair OK but by night by weekend he is traveling in the southeast with his Bad Brains playing music making friends and making his own form of magic right that is when he is most in the flow and I greatly admired him for that he found it he works it he lives it and he's dedicated himself to it you to have the ability to find your passion and live to it right so pay attention to your gut when something feels weird hey attention OK. Minutes do something that honors your authentic self meditate do yoga walk the dog jog around the block I went to yoga Mowgli today I love that place right and I had starry yogurt. With gummy bears right because that felt fun that's what I needed to do to honor myself and get me through this evening right so find something that works for you do it in small chunks of time. And then over time you will begin to feel the pendulum swing from Enter chaos to a little more serenity. Avoid prison naturally. OK Naturally no one wants to be incarcerated I get it you're probably wondering how weird I really am at this point nonetheless the prison I'm talking about is between your two ears. You may talk to your friends a lot you may talk to your roommate a lot you may talk to your parents a lot you may talk to a boyfriend or girlfriend a lot but the person you talk to the most is yourself. So we better start taking inventory of what it is we're actually saying to ourselves and believe it or not a lot of what we express to ourselves our doubts and fears it might go something like this my gosh this class sucks I'm never going to pass this test that I me to a one thing well and who've been invented that right. I'm never going to graduate my parents are going to kill me if I do that right that whole train of thought you guys recognize some of those thoughts right that's all negative thinking that you're using to fuel yourself can you really get through your day feeling yourself with that kind of negativity not so much right that makes life hard why would we want to make life harder on ourselves and then you're. Right so another challenge for you if you choose to accept that that is for a week just a week take a mental note of every negative. You have every doubt every fear every complaint every concern that you have if it is negative in any way shape or form take a mental tally by the end of the week you will likely be a step down did at how much garbage you have fed yourself in that time frame even an optimist like me when I took that experiment. That was an eye opener OK so for a week Canada see what you think and if you're willing to change it start asking yourself this question is this thought helpful if you're like me a very snotty thirteen year old answers back and says well no of course it's not helpful right. You may have your own enter snotty teenager that responds back to you own it it's OK But from that you're able to recognize that label it and deal with it and when you start to deal with it it can be really simple stuff that you use to change your thinking pattern change the radio call a friend go for a walk get up and just move around do a couple jumping jacks whatever works for you but any movement any kind of different bot will help you change that pattern and that's all you're trying to do OK neuroscience proves time and time again we can build new pathways in our brain so let's do that. Number five Find your tribe ask yourself who is in my theater OK if we were in a movie theater pretend we are today and there's a beautiful elaborate red velvet curtain and the lighting is just right and you can smell popcorn waving in and this your life on the big screen who's in there watching with you. Who have you invited into your theater to witness your life who is in your front row. Isn't who you really expect who's trying to get in the doors and you haven't let them. Who's out in the parking lot and forgot your life that's plain. Screen. Right so ask yourself who is in my theater I was extremely fortunate to grow up in a very loving family and I know how rare that is and I treasure that and so my family is in the first row. My husband is actually in the second row physically today. He's in the front row to our little girl Josie that brilliant spirited two year old is also in the front row she's the best teacher I've ever had and she can only speak three words. OK There's lots of wonderful giving kind loving people in my theater I'm very fortunate for that but the people in my theater are not yes people OK so I encourage you do not invite Yes people into your life invite people into your life who are really challenge who you are who will not let you get away with your worst when you can do your best and I also encourage you to think about diversity right think about people who are different than you are different background different heights different major different something and bite different Miss into your life because when we invite that kind of different message in our life you'll be surprised how much magic can really happen. Number Six ask questions what do I need or want to know so ask yourself relevant questions right don't ask questions just for the sake of asking questions or you're nervous or something like that but ask relevant questions a lot of people when they enter the workforce they're afraid to ask questions they don't want to look stupid we've got a lot of pride attached to asking questions so on and so forth so I encourage you to ask questions like a child forget the pride they have no marriage to the outcome of the answer just ask the question naturally how you ask a question can make a huge difference so think about that before the words actually we from your mouth OK but do ask Quest. And think of it in a childlike manner. Number seven be palms open. Think about a boxer. Your closed off you're trying to shrink the target a little bit your hands are up and funny your face your chin is down your knees are bent you're ready to leap whatever it takes right that's a defensive posture a lot of people spend their life growing through with closed this with guarding themselves from the world OK I encourage you to open up a little bit be palms open. And along the path of life ask yourself Am I really being open to this if I'm not why what fear is being brought up here what am I really experiencing Why do I feel the need to be defensive why did I just massacre that person in a meeting hole that was ugly right whatever whatever the scenario is ask yourself Am I being open or closed and then if you're brave dig into the reasons why. Number eight embrace change ask yourself what can I learn so our vertical axis is pessimism our horizontal axis is time this is a standard bell curve most of us have seen some version of this what would we consider change there is change that we invoke in our lives and there's change that happens to us and naturally we're a little bit more closed or open depending on which one it was right change that happens to us and we get a little defensive. Change that we invoke we tend to be a little bit more open we will talk about change. As dating right so you meet someone well over thirty. They're great you need to get a little weak heart maybe you're just full of sweating a little nervous right home OK there's nothing they can do wrong they are perfect in every Well you know my gosh this. It's as though it was. Really OK so if you go across this dating bell curve you go out for a couple of days and you realize I think I was wrong boy wait a minute they never put their phone down a donor are constantly late my gosh they forgot about that thing we agreed to do boy this is trouble. And that's just with a few facts that present themselves right so we start out really optimistic no facts whatsoever and then we gather a little more facts and then we start getting cold feet OK And at that point if enough perceived negative facts perceived build up then we start checking out. Right you may not text them back right away you may not text back at all you may not show up for a day you may claim you've got something else to do before you set the date but somehow someway we publicly or privately check out normally though if we can cope with those facts and we realize they're probably pretty little in the scheme of things then we start heading towards some greater optimism and some more acceptance in this person for all just being a little rough on them they're actually great companion OK So think about it like dating. And along the way ask yourself what can I learn. Keep in mind though that how fast we go through this depends on whether or not we're embracing change right so if you are approaching changes close fisted you're probably going to Staal it checking out your pessimism for a long time so lean in to change wherever you can lean in lean in on your tribe right lean on your strengths all the things that we've already talked about and get over that hump of pessimism and glide right on into acceptance. Number nine overcome obstacles ask yourself. How is this useful imagine yourself in a deep dark muddy hole in the earth right like a well OK there's no rope there's no ladder and there ain't nobody coming to help you. Well that's a dilemma right. When dirt piles in on you you can either stomp it down and if you stop man enough dirt you can hop your way out of the hole or you can let that dirt bury you and that's probably not a great option OK so I do encourage you when you feel mired in the muck of life and changes that are perceived to be negative keep coming not you and you just feel like you're taken it to cheek ask yourself how is this really useful there's probably a silver lining in there somewhere you just have to look for it and you may have to look hard but it is always always there. One of my personal stories happened about a decade ago I was working for a technology company and as it happens new executive members joined the team right and everybody of course ramps up for that and there was this kind of mild panic and excitement that runs through an organization and as standard kind of cultural protocol happens you define your org chart and you put a package of the numbers and statistics and risks and strengths all together so what the new executives walk on board you can hand them this beautiful package of information and off to the races they will go in leading your company right many of us have experienced that it happens time and time again with the change in leadership. So at this particular time I had helped put one of those packages together and executives normally meet with their directors and then the next layer of directors and then the next layer and so eventually I got my opportunity to meet one on one with one of the new executives and I was so excited I was so excited as a younger professional I had my stuff together and I had. Studied this person on Linked In I had studied the school where she went to college I had done all sorts of homework I had asked other people who had met with her where she directs was she not was she extroverted was she introverted I was as prepared as I possibly thought I could have bet. My day of glory come I walk into the office we shake hands there are some pleasantries we sit down after the close and truce she tells me. You will never succeed here and I will make sure of it. Both are stupid. But I remember my mouth dropping I think all the blood in my entire body ran down into my feet I have no clue how I responded at all like I I want to shock I have no idea I can't tell you at all I have no idea how I got back to my desk I think I shook her hand and said thank you and left I mean I was so blown away at what had happened and to this day I have no idea what caused that conversation I don't know at all and I remember going back to my direct manager and this after I could learn to speak English again after that intimidation I told my manager my manager says your line she would never tell you that I thought well my goose is cooked I'm gone. And right I'm the that's it and so you can imagine how big of a pile of dirt that was on me right for an executive to tell me that and the from my manager to not believe me. But I was the big boss and then my but you know what I started looking for that silver lining and did a lot of emotional excavation and I realized you know what you are really happy here and maybe that's just the ember tasting the lead that you needed so I put my resume together I hit the streets entering and ended up with a wonderful new adventure for myself so take the dirt that comes your way stomp that junk down find your. Way out of the hole and find yourself. That silver lining. Number ten and prove continuously as we talked about in terms of our L. of on profile this is something our company is that it catered to this is something I am personally dedicated to as well you can ask my life coach it's almost an addiction for me OK I'm a little bit of a hyper achiever. So the only person you should try to be better than as the person you were yesterday. If you fall off the wagon just get back on none of us really want to be the same person ten years from now that we are today you guys would like to graduate for example right so you don't want to be a perpetual student more than likely OK so to do that that means we have to invoke change when we invoke change we have to embrace that we've got to lean in we've got to find our tribe we've got to nurture our relationships we've got to know our strakes it's got all got to come together OK So embrace change always ask yourself what's next there's always an adventure lurking there somewhere for you. So in closing as we wrap up this is your summary cheat sheet I alluded to a little bit earlier. If you choose to challenge yourself with these questions. And in conclusion. One of my favorite books is Alice in Wonderland It's just weird enough and yet just solid enough for me to really relate to it but Ted Alice says there is no use trying. One can't believe impossible things and that feisty fiery queen says back I dare say you haven't had much practice when I was your age I always did it for half an hour a day I sometimes I believe this many a six impossible things before breakfast so with that I encourage you please choose to thrive. Don't just survive please choose to flourish go with your flow find your passion and great change. Don't just skate by and please believe lots of impossible things thank you. I. Was. Questionis I'll stay as long as they allow them to zero zero. Zero Hi I was wondering earlier talked about your SIL's operational role in C.S. just. As an A and B. graduate a little absurd we. Would see. Something more personal and they saw experience. I would suggest always visiting that location first right get there try it on for sides. Sometimes when you get off the plane you realize this is fantastic right and it's kind of like slipping on a comfortable pair of jeans. There's a lot of times where you can wander around the city and think no this and. This is not going to work for me it's kind of the same thing as when you did tours for college right you went to this college you went to that college or whatever Harry went over there some of them felt right some of them did it same thing with a company search. That helped. Can you know great presentation by the way you know I really enjoyed the first point your last where you know yourself and then moving forward at the very end said that there's one thing about knowing yourself I want to ask you sure what happens when you come to those who shortcomings something that you actually have to look at yourself and say there's something wrong I'm not doing something right how do you do that or how have you done that in your career in also. What makes that the wrong is society's standards because society is not always right leadership you need a lot of the society so how do you really say this is it this isn't OK or maybe it's like I am learning more and I'm actually treating the truth right so I can speak from my personal experience and I've always been a little bit of an outlier I've always done things a little bit differently and what that means is that I've always been more of where when I didn't fit in right now it's in the eye contact you have with your colleagues or friends it's just in a general gut feeling that you have right so it is important to ask yourself. Am I bending right know what your values are. First starters right so if your values are X. Y. and Z. and you're part of a corporate culture or a societal culture that doesn't honor those values it's time to make some changes and it might come them some really crucial conversations right one with yourself but with other people in that particular culture and I would also hearken back to lean in and on your tribe letting them know hey you know I just feel like I'm wearing somebody else's shoes isn't me what have you observed about me right so start that kind of inquiry but certainly any time that you are not honoring your own values you will continue to feel out of sync and so the best thing we can do is explore what options there might be to continue to honor those values and sometimes that means significant changes in our life big changes. And sometimes those are hard but it doesn't mean that the end result isn't wonderfully worth it does that help a little bit You're welcome. I don't say hi What is the most impossible thing that you believed and so here. Well I tend to believe a lot of them blossom eggs with great regularity. It's part about imagination. I would say once upon a time I thought I would never be a mother. My life circumstances were such that it did not seem possible at all and that was one of my life's greatest dreams most of the people close to me had thought well she's just so maternal she should have a kid and then a series of life circumstances happened then I realized my gosh if I make this really big change in my life I hope the way I'm doing the man I don't think I'll be able to do that and so that sense of grief and that sense of loss that I felt that that potential realisation was. Devastating and then I realized when I asked myself Is this thought helpful right I had built my own little prison in my mind that my snooze circumstances wouldn't lead to motherhood and as soon as I got a grip our girl you've let that go you gotta let that go you just never know what magic is out there right and as soon as you let it go your soul can really breathe and you start meeting people and magic happens and lo and behold here I am the mother of a two and a half year old all right so impossible things that can only can happen you have to get out of your own prison a little bit is that how. Right. So I would say you commented on increasing change there was was there a time where you just were really having a really hard time being always sure yeah yeah just because you get better at embracing change doesn't mean you're always love it. Right sometimes you got to fake it till you make it for me. I try to ask myself what is my problem why am I stiff arm in this change right I am really blocking this thing out is that the person is it the circumstances that a perceived threat like what about the change is making me so angry venomous sad whatever that is and when you ask yourself that all sorts of answers come to mind but it's in that inquiry process that it makes a huge difference so it's not to say you shouldn't give yourself a little breathing room right even if you accept the circumstances it doesn't always mean you know we joyful those are two different states of mind right so with change depending on what the changes you do need to allow yourself some time to live with it right especially if it's a negative change divorced definite family. You don't get a promotion at work he didn't get the job you thought you wanted so on and so forth whatever it is you do need to give yourself some time to kind of roll around in that a little bit but it's extremely important to rebound if you've got to be able to rebound and in order to rebound you've got to go through that and very process of why am I feeling this how can I potentially change this and what's that silver lining to help. Her. Yes right right so going back to a point when you know about knowing yourself yet talked about the Myers Briggs type yes this is to serve a two part question What is your Myers Briggs type of appearance you in the how do you use that knowledge personally to try to I guess improve yourself or be more aware of what you're trying to do chores so Meyer sprigs is a pretty widely used assessment to assess your introversion extroversion levels if you're feeling or sensing things of that nature you might hear a lot of people talking about it as a mini N F J R I'm an eighty something something right because the result is in the four letters there. That don't dictate but. Resemble a piece of who you are in terms of your second piece your question how do you use. What is mine I'm the N F J. Do you guys know what that means OK yeah a lot of the students have taken it so I hope your goals are complementary. And then how do you use those strengths what you know about him. I know I have to be around people. I took a strength finder assessment as well number one as would for anyone who's taken that means she's created a conference right she's great with a crowd so I know that I'm a pack animal I must to be around people my husband knows this we need social time books something Saturday night please let's go right so I know I need a healthy part of socialization and my life but I also know that I'm introverted enough that I also have to have solitude right so I have to be able to recharge that battery otherwise when I do go out in the wild wild world and meld with my people. I'm properly fueled for that. So yeah don't accumulate your facts be able to articulate them talk about them with your parents your friends your boss they're extremely helpful and performance reviews as well as interviews so for those of you moving into the world of work please know what your strengths are and be able to talk about them know exactly what makes you thrive and what will make you wilt For example if I were to be an accountant. My colleagues now know that would be a really bad match right I can't do the same thing day in day out repeatedly I'll just I'll just be a pile of anger so so it's really important to end your interview process to be able to articulate that in a lot of times when we're young. In our careers we often don't think we have the right to ask questions about the role right you think you talk about K. you talk about location you might talk about a number of hours but you don't necessarily get down to the nitty gritty of culture and how you and your skills might fit and that and that's a wonderful place to use that new level of self-awareness if you don't have that conversation with your future employers you're taking a huge risk. Is that how. Yes Hi So who is a person that you consider a role model in your life right now and how and why you think. I got a lot. That's a long list. I'm very fortunate that there's a lot of wonderful people and my theater and one of the things that I try to do is regardless of someone's role in my particular life I try to find wonderful things about them that I want to aspire to or that I want to show appreciation to so I'm having a little bit of difficulty Nerina down to one I will say that one of my newer attendees and my theater is my life coach tinnies hall and one of the reasons I respect her tremendously is that she left the corporate world after many many years because if she said I wasn't living to my values and now she is so to make that kind of dramatic change in one's life to embrace that to invoke a huge change into your life and your family's life I happen to think that's very courageous and very honorable and so I will answer your question with Denise. Bushnell Yes. A lot of very poor graduating where the graduates you into undergrads were moving on somewhere at some point and you drew. So I'm hoping. It's going to be relevant to a couple people but I want to hear a little bit more about your move from San Francisco over to here because you seem to be really highly valued of you know you value crowd around you. But then of the same time it's like you're in addition to the school where you have your friends your family is there and you're going to give me all of that of course something that may or may not be much better right now just hoping they can talk a little bit more about the sure I'd be happy to so I've come contributing factor that was handy to a romantic relationship so I do owe you that level of honesty but and in reality in growing up in California going to high school as well as college there and then my career blossoming afterwards everyone I had ever known had said Are you sure you won here because you know you just seem really sound. Right and fact when my when my college friends realized I didn't have a double name like Linda Lou or Sally Mae or something like that they made one up for me because I was just so oddly Southern and San Francisco and so they started calling me Katie Mae right so even though it's humorous and things like that those I considered little signals and my life that I should probably pay attention to right if I'm feeling a little bit like an outlier like I shared earlier and people are telling me I'm a little bit of an outlier then by golly what how much more information do I need right so it wasn't a San Francisco wasn't incredible right the topography the restaurants the culture that everything is absolutely fantastic but when it doesn't speak to your heart it's time to make change and so for me with Southern roots and Nashville otherwise known as Nashville August and you know being born and North Carolina and having lots of friends and family in the south the south is just what spoke to me and at the time moving into a metropolitan. Area because I was from San Francisco was really and Portland so that's why I chose that the biggest city in the South that you know. That answer your question OK. What. I see you mention he's doing he's. Going to be the most difficult although not only. Is this thought helpful. At least this week. The themes change week to week depending on what you're doing what your projects are how close to a deadline you might be. But the fact that one is the trickiest because our inner voices they've been with us a long time right a long time they're ever present and so they're so sneaky that way because they can just kind of smooth ride on it and so they're really difficult to catch in that right hand in the cookie jar and so that's the one I probably struggle with the most because there are certain voices I'm just used to hearing and I don't always catch myself in terms of how I might be undermining my own efforts so that that's the one I I would point to today call me we'll talk next week it might be something different. What. Would be talked of improving continuously Yes What are the steps you take daily to make sure that happens. Well. I try to start from a position of gratitude and fullness and stead of scarcity. So when the alarm goes off at five am every morning right honey. It's not always a stream of positive thoughts that comes out right my gosh she. It's up in the night again how am I going to make it through this day I have too many meetings to lose this much like right I will crash I hope that coffee makers on break we start from a position of scarcity we don't have enough time we didn't get enough sleep right it's depletion depletion depletion and so I really tried to focus on in terms of my continuous improvement starting the day from a place of gratitude and willingness and study of depletion and scarcity and that I have found really changes the tone for the entire day right if you start out negative you're probably more likely to end negative if you start out positive well least try. It. And I saw a cartoon recently from the New Yorker and a friend of mine sent it to me thank you Sarah Walker and she the cartoon it's a person on a couch in the psychiatrist's office and and the patient says I tried to seize the day but then the day did some wild jujitsu move and landed me on my back side right but at least you got to start with try and seize the day and that's how I feel about continuous improvement I also do very specific exercises in terms of a gold chain so I personally have a goal sheet across six different categories from spiritual to financial to personal to vocational and they're short medium and long term goals within that chart just a one page or basic Excel sheet not been fancy a bit but for me it's something I carry around in my portfolio every single day and when I get a few extra minutes in between meetings while I'm waiting for a meeting room I'll take a peek at that she and kind of do a personal assessment of where I'm at with those particular goals and that's one of the tools I utilize to help me stay on track. Is that how. I am subversive I thought your business was going to thank you and I really. My your optimism it's that quality that I share with you and in my own experience I have found that sometimes that's native to the people in the they dislike the optimism and they try their hardest Welsh that bring you back to reality. And so my question is how do you allow yourself to continue to be very positive in more so doing it for the right reasons a lot of times I think we do things to prove people wrong. And so how do you make sure that will spike told me right there how do you make sure you continue to live to yourself and ignoring the naysayers so. I would probably say a couple of things we might want to have coffee. But certainly optimists and pessimists can rub each other the right way it goes both ways but often times people who are outwardly negative to you they're dealing with their own saboteurs right it's not really you it's their own president that their end and the rest of us just swim through with that OK and that's the same for every person whether you're optimist or pessimist. Being an optimist you are faced with lots of opportunities to slide deeply and quickly into negativity. However I do encourage you to stay the course I have noticed that also being a lively person. I have to tone it out sometimes so when I walk into the room and say Hi Yeah I did agree that it's fantastic but there are certain people you probably shouldn't do that where. You. Might just want to say good morning right and inside you can be jubilant and ecstatic and you can still feel all of that same stuff but unless you really want to give someone a migraine you might just went on about it and you know there's the importance of talking to people on their own level where ever there at meet them wherever they are at right if it's pessimism that is coming from them and then understand they've got their own burdens they might be going through their own stuff right. They may have a really rough home life they may have just failed the test we have no clue on the surface what people are going through and so there's a role there for compassion as well so instead of taking it like a personal attack. Just understand that they're going through their own thing apply some compassion tone it down a little speak to them wherever you can and then just move on and may not be someone you and want to and buy in your theater. Right but it may be someone you have in your class there's a certain amount of exchange you have to happen but that doesn't mean you HAVE TO DAY them right it doesn't mean you have to have a meal with them but it does mean that you need to figure out positive ways of making sure it's a collaborative engagement. To help. Never let him see a sweat. Yet don't hand that Micron to my husband you know. I'd like to move back to your role that I love on revenue product development innovation Yes is the innovation a different set of capabilities than other kinds of leadership. Or now you're getting philosophical on me I should have known when you introduced yourself to the earlier end and in the you know in the innovation world we're hearing a lot about design thinking yes sure you know the hard business review had it you know on the cover recently and I'm just wondering what an expert who spends day to day on new product development in innovation thinks about design thinking is it a fad or is it a real process that will enable more innovation OK so I heard about six questions that I have liked to respond to so guide me through that first I'm glad you're convinced I'm an expert because that means I. Fools. But I had a hell of on we're actually all charged with innovation OK so our leaders have repeatedly asked us to ensure that we are the tip of the spear it doesn't matter if innovation is in your title it doesn't matter what your role is Brian you're nodding your head but everything Lee do needs to be from an innovative mindset and so I would encourage people to read a book by Carol Dweck called mindset it's a fabulous book there's an online assessment you know how I love those right and so I have found that people who are innovative it's more about their mindset than the role their rank their paygrade anything of that nature so if you have a growth mindset you're much more likely to be innovative in your approach. What are the next four pieces of your question of. Research about these are good night design thinking I'm sure so I read the book title design thinking as part of the Katie library at element. It's a regular piece that is loaned out to colleagues I think there's a lot of valuable contract to that because there is sort of a reputation for enervation that we can spend all the money we want we have no constraints and so on and so forth that there's no process that a bunch of really good people who dress well sit in a room and dream up crazy stuff that a company really can't pull off and that is a complete fallacy. So innovation to me is more about the how right and pieces of that how Certainly design thinking has some pieces that I would encourage a company when they're thinking about what innovation is to start with the definition if a company doesn't know what innovation is you're in trouble that's a question that many people ask me and career fairs and different things how do I know if it's a innovative company ask them. Ask them and you. Interview process what is the definition of innovation and the definition of innovation an element in US bank is transforming ideas and to value for our shareholders employees customers and partners and that is tried true and it's what we live to at the company so far India's are not translating to value for our consumers of our products we're in trouble when we're not innovating within our particular constraints. So there are certainly fads with innovation animation itself is a fad sometimes but there's always best practices at the basics of that some of those include brainstorming right all of us have been part of a good brainstorm most of us have been part of a really bad brainstorm. The most effective brainstorms happen and the preparation stage so about nine tenths of your effort should go into preparation for a brainstorm the last ten. Driving the home that's the hour you actually spent brainstorming OK So there's definitely a lot of good solid basics that can be applied regardless of what book you read regardless of what you want to call it stick to the sanitation best practices. That address all the components. We need to go to want to take your words for you great. Have you ever been a part of the interview process or beyond where he lives and moves you recommend you job sure so I have been a hiring manager in my past that happened to be an individual contributor now I want to manage a team of approximately twelve people and it was great fun and very different part fun but fun nonetheless and that particular role from an interview process I encourage you to be yourself. Please be yourself. Because after if you're not yourself and then you end up on the job. You're going to feel really out of sync with yourself so be yourself if you're a happy go lucky person then show that joy in the meaning if you're a more serious person honor that serious person with a new right but if you're faking it in an interview in any way shape or form the act will soon be over right and then both you and your team and your manager are going to feel regret about that so just be true to yourself and do a lot of deep breathing before you go out on the belly. Georgia to. Thank.