Good evening. Happy New Year everyone and welcome back. We're thrilled to be continuing our centennial Lecture Series this spring and have lots of exciting evenings I had planned. Our next lecture that postcards should have gone out to all alumni and we are going to have the poster up now very shortly. I'm not going to go run through all of the lectures that we have coming up but just let you know that the next lecture isn't is two weeks from tonight. And it's titled The future of the firm. And we didn't plan for that to be quite as we didn't know the economy would be quite so hard hit that that would suddenly sound like it was a question. When when we framed it. But if the idea of the evening will actually convene alarms of multiple generations from phone principals to new in turns to talk about the differences between founding a firm of one's own versus climbing the ladder. And its end as well we'll hit on the very tough choices that firms are facing in this contract economy and I think help help help students and professionals both think creatively about really you know what is the future of all of our firms as we get through what promises to be some interesting times. Now before I deemed out for introduces tonight Speaker. I have a few announcements. The first is the requisite silencing of the cell phone please pull out your cell phones and turn them off so that they don't ring in the middle of the lecture. Second requisite reminder of that credits and the e-mail list for information about future lectures are just outside the door. And. I also like to invite you to catch the exhibition at the eye drum gallery. Right that's on right now and should be up for another good part of this month of digitally fabricated pieces that our students did and that are beautifully display and fourth just an announcement that above and beyond our own acts are serious they are A.S. by a student wing is the southern poly is hosting this year's South quad conference with assistance from Georgia Tech. And they have secured Richard Meyer as their speaker for the first weekend in March and Mr Meyer will be speaking of giving a lecture in his building at the High Museum. And it should be should be and that will be open to all to students professionals everyone in the city. So with that let me say it is on I think I will welcome to two thousand and nine into the one hundred buck to. There's a replacement introducing someone you knew was a student who has been most successful in the profession and it's almost thirty years since I knew him and what I must say the strength of character that I remember from these years as remain wholly intact. It was always hard to win an argument with the other I was Miss ways of my goodness. Some bone in her van a Cuban man well grew up in New York in Madrid Spain before coming to Atlanta. You know on both the battle of science to be in a master's degree at Georgia Tech nine hundred seventy seven something unexpected but memory plays a play strange tricks I could swear that someone it was really is from the absolute recesses of the far reaches of my memory. The all these years ago he said he spent the. Year or two at the city center room studying film. Perhaps I magine this and maybe he made it up. Perhaps time out and if you imagine. He said They told me this extends from memory does. Graduating in a meeting and very he joined the next man associates and remained through the acquisition by Perkins and will in ninety six do it today he is a principal design a design principle the market sector leader and board member. And really has led many of the firms most recognizable into the project. And the range and scope of the work has been great from building from the C.D.C. in Atlanta in the US can love building on the Georgia Tech campus to the almost complete Sandy electric complex just five kilometers from the Great Wall of China Beijing manuals can lead also in shaping Perkins will reputation abroad being the innovative green design the C.D.C. building was the first government lab to be given a lead goal sort of occasion he describes his work as modern clean competent in a bit of but I would add elegant intelligent and exact rank he will see many awards over the years in two thousand and seven on behalf of bugs and when he accepted the silver medal from the Georgia tap chapter the highest for the highest call design over a five to ten year period. And in two thousand A to receive an award for developments of excellence by the Urban Land Institute. It's a great pleasure to introduce manwell could break a law. Thank you Alan. It's interesting to come here my wife is here and she's also a graduate tack and she can. Went to that place of the exactly the same as when we lived in this is Atlanta nine hundred seventy four really like this postcard. This is this is downtown. This is this was this was where we went here you see like a precursor to the west and building. Perhaps they should use some of this glass to replace the missing from the tower. You see that you know there was this concentration of buildings I was right here in the in the center of town and everything else is pretty much parking lots that hasn't changed that much either. Some of the things that were interesting was that peace treaty center remember when I went to school here. Was it was like the most innovative place I mean that's what everybody thought there was really great stuff going on. John Portman but it's at the top of his game in Atlanta a big data Georgia Tech was to get together some money and go to the Polaris room so that was that that is a kind of an interesting thing I don't know if any of you even know where that is anymore. The Allman Brothers would play for free at Piedmont Park. We all read the great sparkle bird which was a wonderful magazine the population of Atlanta was two million. It's five over five million now and the downtown was virtually empty after seven o'clock at night. So I transferred to Georgia Tech after I spent my first year at another university and it was a university and the College of Architecture was not a College of Architecture. It was an environmental design and architecture was one of many disciplines that was represented and when I came to Georgia Tech. It was a very different situation because it was in the university and there was the College of Architecture and that was pretty much it. What I found was that there was this mainstreaming. Studio that that that was in place at Georgia Tech which was pretty much focused on second generation modern buildings they had a very sort of corporate focus and it was almost like the design that you did was almost like a design in a vacuum there was very little consideration for any kind of cultural connections any sustainable strategies any innovative uses of technology. There was no reference to color and materiality there was very little reference to context an urban ism and being caught looking at a reference book was tantamount to a mortal sin you were not allowed to look at references and I'm not just talking about references from the past history I'm talking about the near history. You just didn't do that. What you did focus on was a strict adherence almost mindless adherence to a typed program and the encouragement that what you do represent simple bold forms. I failed my first semester at Georgia Tech and I think I'm being kind when I put these buildings up which I think those professors at that age would have considered to be the buildings in favor we really never saw them but there were some very nice second generation modern buildings of course but failing that class was one of the best things that happened to me a Georgia Tech because it basically got me out of sequence and what ended up happening was that I failed that class and I called my professor and I said. I failed to class and he said Yeah man while architecture is hard. Damn hard and you just don't have it and I said and. So I asked my father if I could go back to the other university that are that I was at because I was doing better there and he said no so I went back and took two thousand and one lab again. And I was off sequence and that what I discovered was that if you couldn't make it here that there were all these other studios that lived. So we're really on and off campus. So I spent the next three years over there and what there was was and there were several of them. These are just the ones that I visited. There was there was a pre-manufactured studio there was there was an early sustainability studio it wasn't called that at the time and then there was one that wasn't called this either but that I've called a cultural narrative studio and I'm not mentioning any professors on the pre-manufactured studio was kind of an early venture into sort of a high tech notion that you could actually build a product and control them in a very precise way and deliver them onto a side by cleverly nesting and providing real value and actually having an effect on providing quality projects for at and expense of price and of course the hero of that time was Moshe softy and Buckminster Fuller of course and disavow course would grow into this sort of attitude would would would very much lead into the high tech movement which is already going on obviously we just weren't seeing it here that people like Norman possed are and which are broader what would would be part of this sort of frame of mind. There was an early sustainability studio and these are some pictures from the period and what I found really interesting about this was that there really was. And expressed concern with natural resources with energy which was a real crisis at Even then with with the with the way that we engage the earth and that you could have beautiful spaces and beautiful forms that would would would would come out of an influence other than than a blank program. So we were we became very enamored with the idea of of what policy Larry was doing and with the ideas that we could that we could affect to design a more. A more sophisticated and thoughtful way of of engaging the earth and then there was a cultural narrative studio which was really focused on many things but one of the things was that there was a great beauty in things that were already there in that studio. We went to Little Five Points which is an apt really quiet like Little Five Points is now which is kind of like a theme park but at that time Little Five Points was wall to wall pawnshops and I remember the professor had a SCO there and measure it which which I thought was interesting and we saw a lot of interesting things and this also focused on just the that there were that there were reasons why buildings and cities were the way they were and that our jobs as architects was to try to find what those clues were within within those buildings and those parts of the cities that we wanted to then carry forward as we as we continued our own process of design and discovery. This professor also had gone to school and Penn. So he was he was he had a very sort of even though he didn't talk about it. There was some energy around Louis Kahn and sort of the the survivability of buildings ability to survive a program that that. You could build buildings that that had in terms of quality to it. That was greater than that and then the specific program and sort of the beauty of pure of pure forms. As opposed to the other studios where the mainstream studios have put a lot of emphasis on spending half of your half of your semester stippling with with with cooing or pen on on four boards that were supposed to overlap and form some great. Sort of Bose arts competition. None of these studios did that the studios were more idea based they were model based they were we wrote and there was a real interest in sort of developing a thoughtful process. So that I graduated but as I was graduating there was an influx of new blood some of the new blood as is now control in the school is now leading the school and has been for some time and that was how it would be a moment because we knew that there were more things than we were seeing the Paris program had begun. The London program was beginning. You know the students from Tech were going out and seeing that there was much more out there that was of interest and it was a very interesting period. The when when we were in the London program. Peter Cook put on a series of lectures that were fantastic. Let me see where I was. He had the sort of open form and in that form he had people like Charles Janks speaking Alice and then Peter Smithson of course Rem Koolhaas. There was Foster and Rogers who were still talking about our program. There were representatives from Archigram as in Peter Cook. Was there. There was Bernard to Shumi and what we were just surrounded with one of the many voices that were going on at the time. And the world of architecture and design and it was it was just a fantastic opportunity and I would recommend to any of you that are students to to become involved and to take the opportunity to to do the study abroad programs. What we also found was that there was disgraced influx of ideas from the. From been Churi with with that with an emphasis on pattern and culture and reworking sort of the nature of classicism and how that works and and a contemporary society from Rossi's beautiful drawings and beautiful buildings that we all became very much in love with that really her trade this sort of beauty of of sort of the silent image and of the empty and of the empty city with the beautiful forms. There was Michael Graves early projects that were kind of a return to our core boozing in maybe read Valley in a sort of world where color was now something that you actually could do again. That it's being expressive of formed and being expressive of ideas that came before you was actually something that was good. That was very exciting to us. There was also the you know the discovery on our part of the use of of the political influence of architecture that that architecture doesn't exist as I said before in a vacuum that there's so many influences and so we really became interested in tap one and L. is its key and Malka very much and not Malcolm it's model of it. And and then of course there was there was a long career who was seaside was starting up was really sort of leading. Away with sort of the beauty of Ark typical shapes that there's a reason why we like clay tile roofs that we like operable windows and that you can assemble those in ways that really have great poetry and meaning. For Our Time. There was the beauty of sun. Even though this is from the early part of the century and the promise of a heroic future. You know we've started becoming love with drawings. There was you know the larger urban statements that are trade or traditional city like like been Cherry There was the city put on psychoanalysis by Rem Koolhaas who at one point when we were in London and he taught us at the A.M.A. He gave us some lectures the one of the most memorable things I remember him saying was that the job of an architect was to graft fantasies on the earth and I loved. Two things there. I love the joy of fantasy that architecture is despite my professor's comments earlier not just only hard but it's actually a joyful act and two that there's a willful almost violent. Connection to the earth that you're actually doing something to the earth. So it's very willful there was you know there was that the sort of the cinematic quality of a cue for strong and then we also you know this is all very different stuff but it was all happening at the same time it was like like like a tsunami of ideas. You know there was this sort of just beautiful images of the tendons and you know the quiet confident beauty of stark beauty of reason. And this had a profound effect on us and I think on on a lot of a lot of the work that we did so I'm quickly go through some projects here. This is the first project that and. That I did. There was a major project coming out of Georgia Tech and this is a North Side Hospital which is basically a vertical bank and what happens in a hospital is that the bottom of the hospital like a hotel is where you have your surgery. Radiology all of that stuff and it all needs like a big floor plan and you put a tower on top of it but this was not that we didn't have that so they said you had to build it all in a tower. Well. So what we did is we expressed the nature of the dissonance of the program on the skin so that you could see the wave Mitt moves in and out and then we brought the idea of the structure and the columns all the way out across the front in order to give it a canvas to be read on this is not what a typical hospital looked like and in the early eighty's. Neither was this. This is the one that medical center and this is a ground up hospital and this was an attempt to work with sort of the core boozing and ideas of building in a garden building on a low T. the expression the body metric expression of program. As the composition of the building and then demonstrating the the systems of the building as an organizing element so that you see where the where the vertical circulation is that you see where the where the mechanical systems are and it was it was an attempt to to engage color as part of the design process and then an addition that was done and which was the one at women's pavilion which then carried forward some of those ideas but then showed how you could develop an individuality to projects that still would relate and after this. This is the last project I did it when that medical center and then from then on. I had different architects in the office do the buildings so that they were. Tanger precious as the projects continue this is the old national highway that we did that was the first and last post office I ever did but I figured that I would stop because it got a National Endowment ten year award for the arts. So I thought well I'm never going to be another one of those I'll just stop here but this one used notions of the whole building as a as a pretty mess pre-manufactured structure with all the materials being manufactured offsite and literally assembled on the side. So it was really playing with that and also with the notion that our society had kind of left behind the everyday pleasures of great buildings and people in other societies in the past going to the post office was a big deal now going to the post office has gone to like a Wal-Mart. So the idea that you could have a grand space and that you could celebrate this ordinary part of your life was something that we were focused on this is a hospital that we did in Sarasota which again is about using the expressing that the dissonant program elements of the building and trying to pull it all together into into a consistent. Idea and also challenging ourselves to use as many repetitive and pre-manufactured items as possible. The Stella Maris building at St Joseph is another hospital and this was really and attempt to to work with the existing brutalist style building and at the time I had been very impressed with the boy a library that they're now talking about tearing down or selling or doing so. This was a this was to me a very important project I'm trying to work with sort of a boy or a robot about how it's attitude towards the way that building compositions or form and part of the problems with buildings like health care buildings is that they don't require as many windows so you have to be very creative about the way you work with the buildings in order to to to to enjoy them. This is the first building I did a Georgia Tech which is the earth kind of love building which I was gratified to hear that the students at Georgia Tech and started calling the Love Shack the that you know I was in this one I brought back a lot of what I had learned to attack and what of. What I was influenced by the professor that I mentioned and cultural narrative studio and I was really interested in sort of this con in idea of the of the expression of the modules of the building the expression of the mechanical system and it it all. I was also fortunate in that this building site was in a place where there's two other very nice buildings which I think Terry Sargent did I forgot which ones they are there. They're there to manufacture in buildings and then this building on this side formed a courtyard. So it was the completion of a composition that I have already begun. There was also an attempt to to go back to go back a second. There's also an attempt to go back to PM have for and then Georgia Tech had just been through a gruelling period where the president of the university wanted to turn Georgia Tech into rice. You know so there was every building that Georgia Tech had to have you know Little Man sort roofs and the like and I think Terry had gotten. Not rehired because you've done some buildings that weren't so then we want to head and get another one that wasn't. And this building was actually voted one of the best buildings on campus by the students which is what what what you care about anyway. This is great high school which is and this is and intervention really that we did on a Philip shot seed building which is a final building. But what I like about this project is that there's a lot. It's like a community of buildings and that there's not really a hierarchy to them. The major hierarchy is the building on the Hill which is the shots the building but I think that what we proved here in this garden. Atlanta Urban Design Award was that you could successfully do modern buildings and in traditional classical context that one went away. This is this is a hospital that we proposed and isn't going to happen and Miami and here it was kind of a cultural reference and trying to find a language that would make sense in Miami that wasn't the obvious language of the art deco and here we worked really hard to to find almost almost a latin and a spring of zero working toward something that people in Miami that had become a large Latin American community could respond to. Also the building forms a gateway engages the city and creates a secondary park level which was which was basically designed to be a running garden that would form an upper level for of the for the patient tower. I think that one of the things that I'm proud most proud of the work that we do is that it typically transcends the art type of what one is expecting. The buildings to be like this is the office building that we did build which is. Right across the street from that from that side. And this is the Center for Disease Control the breach so Lay was it was a very important part of the project to project site was aimed in directly the worst orientation. We wanted to to get be able to get as much natural daylight in and we used as of a brief so light and they don't have to turn these lot. The lights on during the day which it which is great. The building as Alan said earlier received the gold lead which is the first time that's ever happened on a federal lab of this complexity and then there's the whole notion that buildings can hack and capture sort of a mission. This is the first building that that that's ever been done for the Department of Homeland Security and it's in Fort Dietrich and you can't get there but it was really interesting because we had a wonderful client and she really wanted this building to make a statement about the importance of Homeland Security and she wanted it to be friendly but she also wanted it to be sharp and she wanted to make sure that that it represented the business of protecting the country. So part of this project was trying to capture part of this design was propped trying to capture that spared as was this a building for NASA Space Center which is what I really enjoy about it is sort of the anonymity of the program that there's no idea why the program is distributed the way it is that the building itself has a greater sort of life than the particular program because technology is such a thing that's going to keep changing that there wasn't any reason to really break it down and say this goes here and that goes there but what we did do is we focused the south elevation of the building to a natural resource which which is located across the way and then this is the project that we're doing. For Sami. Which is the Chinese company there kind of like Caterpillar and this is down in Peachtree City. So this is going to be kind of an interesting building to see down Peachtree Street sitting there very interesting client. This is the Oklahoma Medical Research Foundation which is shamelessly inspired by it. By rights price tower. What we did is we we designed this and when I say we I said I mentioned it and Steffi from my office was a wonderful architect came up with this wonderful plan of this this tree like structure that that then has these appendages that come off of it that suspended up with these great grooves that come into the building and bring natural daylight and the other interesting thing about this project is that it's fully integrated with wind turbans and photovoltaic devices this building as is aiming at a platinum lead which is a fabulous thing for a research project and this is the new building we're doing for the for the National Institute of Health which is kind of interesting because it's in addition to having the only building but we didn't look at it as an addition to having your we build and we looked at it as an addition to the campus. So part of working on this building was reconciling all the other buildings that are on the campus and making sure that this this this whole composition is something that works well with the entire campus the other thing was that the avenue only building was designed as pods which didn't work very well because they didn't get very much flexibility in this building is a deep floor plan which gives them the chance to change a lot. This is the building that Alan referred to that we're designing in near the Great Wall of China and this is this is. A beautiful project. It's in the it's in the design stage at this point but in this one we're really kind of raking in the ground like like like like Koolhaas was talking about. I mean this sort of willful grafting of a program into above and engaging the ground. So it's kind of a different move in trying to take the notion of a manufacturing facility an office complex and expressing it almost as a museum and really the notion that buildings don't just sit on a piece of ground but that buildings should be part of the ground and that that waiting to it could really bring great and Richmond two to decide this is this. This is just some more detail views this is the new building that we just did for the C.D.C. It's it's focused on on office research or research office space and then also a wonderful area that faces south on to and that Nash natural wetlands area which is the that the dining hall for for the campus is the shambling campus this campus doesn't get a lot of press and here you see it with the shades which of course of our producing an inspired shapes with with this great sort of hall that becomes a major major dining hall and then we took the project and reached out with this with this walkway and ramp down into the into the the wetlands. So that people can get out of their research facilities get out of their offices and go go go to the natural areas and the have and have nature walks and gauge the environment which which is really something that we want people to do not sit inside of of her. Medically closed buildings all day long and there was this notion of taking this piece of the building and actually having it come out and project out into the side like like some kind of tree house that that really when you're in this space you get this full this great sense of being within within the wetlands. So there you see some of that the lobby turned out a little a little James Bond. And some of the like like Goldfinger that's totally intentional. This is the new project that we just did and the reason why I'm showing these is because all of us. And by extension of that me. We work in different market sectors so what I'm trying to convey is that there's not their design is exclusive of the architecture as I believe that program that design is exclusive a program. There's an I don't believe people when they say well you can't do an interesting hospital because the programs too hard or you can't do interesting research. It's what you bring to it. That's not what's there. So this is this is the new Mayo hospital which is which we just opened last year and you know what was there was real notions of creating a front door of having a welcoming presence on the site and then having a very streamlined approach to the design of the design of the building itself the administrator walked some perspective doctors who were interviewing at Mayo through that under the canopy and he turned to them and he said Gentlemen. When people walk under this canopy they expect to be cured but here you see views around around the building. There's And you know that I'm sure. In this and the print design principle but this is the work of a lot of people a lot of people that are sitting here today and a lot of them are Georgia Tech grads people that work worked out these beautifully intricate curtain walls that that have these great patterns that relieve the sort of monotony of the hospital patient floor and really have this wonderful sort of kinetic relationship with what the you know Florida Florida line and then caring that all the way inside because we think of this as architecture but it's not just architecture I mean. It really floors me this this whole idea of the heroic architect you know there's no such thing. I mean you know it's like a it's like an Vienna. You know with that with the secessionist it's collaboration. You know if you're lucky enough to work with talented people you can do really great things. So it's interior designers and urban designers. It's people that focus on brand and focus on clients messages and graphic design and weight finding you know it's all those things. So being able to be a programs and well and working with people that are talented really is is a joy. This is the new office building that we did it. Piece three at Atlantic Station and here. The focus was we were given the smallest button on the side and there was some concern as to well what can you do with a small building. So you know I went to New York and I was on Park Avenue and the building of course you love all the buildings but there's this great little building that I saw him did that and that was the Pepsico building. Louise Hart's double referred to it as the pot pots the chapel of modernism. And you know we became very engaged with sort of this this pure form and this building. That could but was comfortable with it salves even even next to much taller buildings. So you know we worked on the on the curtain wall we worked on the detail and we worked on that on the way to engage the ground. We tried to connect over to the walk over to a building and expand that notion of a gift to the street with an arcade. And really this this building became very much about the connection of the building itself back to the city which you can see through through the lobby. This is a high school that we did and Alpharetta. You know again a very different sort of idea and approach towards what what a school should be like here. We broke down the two thousand students that were going to be packed into this thing and made them three different discrete classes of buildings where they could spend their four years and have a chance that maybe a professor might know who they are because they would spend all four years gone to the same and then sharing. So it was the notion of of a diagram that makes clear sense in the way that it gets wedded to the site and here you see some some pieces of that building and then of course there's the building next door. Which is where the infirmary used to be and the recognition of you know this whole this whole building became about the site. You know the shape of of the site which was which was already dictated by the by this wonderful courier the pathway that students had already established going through the site needed to be maintaining and the idea that we wanted to to hide this together with their other colleges. With a courtyard really that side plan really became what then. What then pulled up out of out of the ground into the building this both in also. It is probably one of our most aggressive approaches that bringing sustainability to the side with the rain gardens. The underground cisterns and this is I think it's the first coldly building attack I'm not sure. And I apologize. To Doug many times for the flooding that occurred. You know the idea that the building could shaded self and as it reaches over to the north that the shading drops away and becomes clear so it's almost you know it's kind of a fetishistic. Approach towards towards towards a very practical idea. And then the idea of having clear and clear entryways and pathways just to finish off and I wanted to show you in particular the students a proposal that we did for Georgia Tech that we didn't get selected and this is and I'm still bitter. This is the the the proposal for the Iowa are C. which is the innovative learning Research Center which was to be which is to be located just west of the beautiful library. So we did this proposal and the you know it was important to us to recognize the important edges that formed the side. So for those of you who aren't familiar this is Skiles and this is about the library both buildings done by PM Have fun and who also did this building and probably some of the. Most of the fine buildings on this campus. So you know we started working with the notion of the definition. Of space and regulating lines the connection to a potential Georgia Tech green the connection to the can the campus along the some Porton East. Axis used west axis views that we needed to maintain north and on on an cumbered so that you could get north light into the that wonderful hall and the library that needed to be maintained. There was the connection to the new green that's occurred. Thankfully in front of the crew prepared Boman the and then there was the final definition of where we thought the prime location for the building should be recognizing that it would have an entrance also off of Bobby Dodd way and that there that there needed to be some place for gathering and come action almost as a bridge between the building and the commons. So here you see the further development of that and maintaining the views from the math building from Skiles West so that led to to a development we started thinking about the building a sort of these pretty manufactured ribbons that that there could be structurally brought in and established the sort of lines of program that would cut across the side. I used to live on on the street which used to exist but you're within this thread as Hemphill used to exist used to go through campus and now it's just like Ghost and so you know this drawing was it was kind of an interesting drawing to try to bring it back and see where it could connect and we were thinking about the building and how to build. Could engage the site the I.R.C. is I don't know if you all know what it is it's like the new thing and higher education that's supposed to be a place that that brings together research teaching and reference and it's where students may go and spend their first year. So it's really sort of a collaborative innovative learning environment but I love these buildings. You know we want to around and took pictures of these great buildings and we also found some This is in the library North Face. This is the library south face with this wonderful connection that PM did so that you could move at two different levels from the scholars building to the to the library here you see the bridge connecting over to Skiles. And then Skiles which I still think has is one of the nicest Belden's I've seen one of the nicer modern buildings and it's just a beautiful complete thought. With this grey courtyard where somebody put an abomination of an elevator into the middle of it but this this was a great place to go study. Even though I must confess that math was not my big thing I used to like going to to this building and here you see sort of the emergence of of the of of an expression that we carried forward of the sort of glass box rising up out of out of nature. So we did drawings and I think I can't stress how important it is to know how to draw. I've been a little disappointed in the past few years saying that there's been sort of a lack of emphasis on people learning how to sketch and knowing people that are fabulous on the computer but if you ask them to sketch the idea for you. They have a hard time you know. So and that I think that's a problem but that we could we could engage and talk by just doing these simple sketches and everyone could be could get on board with an idea and the idea that we had was that we really couldn't do a building. Even though we locked it. That would be taller than the library or that the library needed to be the most important. Volume on the campus symbolically it needed to represent that. So we ditched these ideas and started working with the idea of building into the ground and that we could use use these different these different ribbons of program to engage the site at different ground elevations encouraging movement building off the P.M.'s axis that North-South access and that we could connect on an east west basis as well but then create a central area within the space that could become sort of the or quarrel or central heart of the of the building and bring our natural light into it and then using the building itself as a series of of of of drawers that that and close program and then have an exterior rain garden type environment so that the students could be in and out of the building and gauging the landscape and engaging the building and this is the final proposal that we did. And this is Atlanta now as opposed to Atlanta when I came here so I'm a little bit or you know that I thought it was a nice idea but it wasn't to be but I'm but I'm still you know delighted that and that I've been I've had the good fortune to do to build and. On my campus on. The the as I thought about this and one of the great things of having Alan Alan asked me to do this. Was it made me think about. About what I do on a day to day basis which is not typically what I do what I do is think about the project. And it made me think back on what that professor told me once about architecture being hard damn hard. And I must say that I think he's right but not for the reasons in math and I think that the reason why architecture is hard is because we even though we enjoy doing it. I think that that we bear. You know a pretty strong responsibility in a way. We as architects and designers and landscape architects and urban designers and city planners are kind of the last line of defense. You know we if we if we don't do good work if we don't do what's right. If we don't connect to culture and if we don't connect to the things that are important then no one else is going to. So that's very important. I also think that that that buildings have a responsibility to the health of their occupants. If you're not doing sustainable buildings now I just don't think you're getting a very good job. I mean that's just what you have to do. There's no two ways around that the other thing is that I really truly believe that buildings that are single and singularly focused on a specific program are missing the point. What we're doing is we're building cities. We're building cities for a long time we're building cities for people and the building should have a life that's bigger the designs of our building to have a life that's bigger than any specific program and that's a challenge for all of us. But ultimately design is challenging but it's an opt in. Mystic thing and it's something that I get up every morning and I know it sounds corny but I'm Joy doing because I actually get to do a little lot of things people think architects do it. So it's fun to do I like working with the people I work with I'm surrounded both in my office and other offices with really talented people that have different points of view and we work together because we think that what we're doing can really increase the quality of of people's lives and certainly our own. And I'm also lucky in that. My wife. Is also a graduate from Georgia Tech and is and has been. You know my most candid critics throughout my life. And I think that whenever I do things that I shouldn't be doing. She's always there to to point out and and it's invaluable to have a critic at home so. That's it for me and if you all have any questions I'd be happy to entertain. Thank you thank you. Must be a difficult history. And big lives. And I'm well thank you very much. There is there is one skew younger than my generation. About which building. There are not. Yes. I still don't. Yeah I don't remember exactly what I said but I do remember not liking it but I didn't like much of those days anyway. Yeah I don't like that one either. And I think that part of the reason can is because I love this go and so much. You know and and even though you know it was difficult being here and I was not here that much because I was off campus on the other in the other studios. Being able to go to class here and enjoy that courtyard the library was where I guess you have computers now and we used to review our projects and their great gallery. It was just a joy. I mean it was it was it was it was such a wonderful building. That. I'm not sure that I would have liked anything that anybody was proposing but I probably was a little too hard. Before we yes I've got a whole group of people from programs and well sitting right here yesterday supposed to do the bigger better well thank you very much. You did want to thank you Robert.