That I'm from New Zealand.

From my accent I'm not from Australia New
Zealand different countries turns out

and so I have been.

Making music with computers now for
about ten years or so

of and most of that time I've been using.

Traditional sequences style applications

used in live Most recently I've been using
able to live before that I was using if

else studio which is actually really
right you know I can't you can't.

Really well it's pretty good but
he was able to be.

A few other things but anyway they all
have the one thing in common and that is.

You're in total control of every
single event that happens over time.

And that's really great when you were
starting out making music because

you don't actually have to be able to play
any instruments you can just stop plucking

notes and and
you can tweak to your heart's content and

make three things sound effect.

But I started in countering problems
when I wanted to move from.

Making compositions in the studio.

To actually.

Performing live and so
the problem for me isn't so

much that there aren't existing tools
to take your studio compositions and

play them live it's just that the process
is completely different how you

make a song when you're in total control
of time versus how you make a song

when you are in the moment and
performing it's it's different and

you're just in a completely different
mindset when you're actually playing and

I just didn't feel like I was
in control it's like it was

just totally different paradigms and so
what I wanted to do was just simplify and.

Only play live music and so even when
it's a very much like a a rock band.

The band they just they
just jam together and

they come up with music that they like and
then they can record that and

capture that performance and then when
they actually play that music live

they just go back and back to when
they originally were playing and

they can play a little different kind of
play the same way as it was on the album

whatever but they've got that kind of
flexibility and I wanted to have that so

I decided that I was just going to
change the way that I play music so

that I start the live way.

But the problem was I just couldn't
quite find a tool that let me.

Do it quite the way I wanted to and
able to push didn't exist at the time

probably if it existed I wouldn't have
bothered with any of the stuff but.

Yes So now this is the part where I have
to actually get everything working again

so I can show my slides.

Like this

and.

I had everything set up before and
that just ruined it.

So.

There we go I think we sort of know OK so
that's my next slide yet

so I.

Started building my own application and
it's called Loop drop and

it's what I was using last night so
I thought I'd show you first of all

just a little bit of what I was actually
doing last night because it may have been

a little hard to tell with all of
the darkness and the loud noises.

So this is the user interface here.

So the idea behind it is that
there is no actual sequence.

Every event that happens is
something that you decided

it should happen when you're playing live.

However you do see how your sounds up
before so I've got a drum kit here.

And that corresponds to

this.

Is something you.

And.

I love happy and I love happy accidents
and so that's like the primary

design goal of this is to
let me just mention keys and

while I'm still in control of everything
it's not like anything random happens but

it empowers that kind of
interplay you get between.

Yourself and the physical instrument
that's what I'm really going for

here anyway so
that's the primary mode of input is.

I don't actually it's the first level
of input as you can just trigger things

stright So all your sound you have so.

You can just play things
straight like that but

it gets quite difficult
to actually play in time.

When you try to play a whole bunch of
different instruments unless you're like

well as amazing thing the drums
which I most certainly am not so I.

Repeat which is.

I I want to look to the current which
is one hundred twenty six B.P.M.

right now and on every beat I want
to just keep triggering the sign

instruments.

And I

can.

Thank you and everything but I

just.

And that's pretty much all
that's to it just those things.

So what you've seen.

However it's not running in the browser
it's not a Web site it's actually.

It's a compiled application that actually
has an executable that you run and

gets all the wonderful
luxuries of the dock.

And on and
a nice place an application folder and

it's also a multi-platform electron
basically lets you compile.

Executable file but
not only do everything.

So you have access to.

This.
You can mess with files you can create

watches you it's kind of really amazing.

So you should differently check out
electron if you're interested in building

a decent application with any web
technologies but why on earth did I choose

to build this with what you know I should
have actually probably done this and

that if I would have been able
to get top performance but

I'm not actually interested
in the web technologies here.

So for me it was because I could
leverage an existing skill set.

But along the way I discovered the job
script is actually really good for

this particular task but only when you
use it with a really good module system

because things can just get crazy if
you're trying to global javascript and

run this kind of this
complex app where I've got

you know multiple levels of interface and
it's just you know it's not so

differently use javascript with
some kind of module language.

Module system and
when using electron you get require for

free you get is six before you get
all the good stuff and I think for

a lot of people this is the big feature
is you get all the things you can.

If you write in Java Script you get every
platform you get you get my bile you get

up and it's just one codebase and
it's amazing so.

Why did I choose to just
make that with all that.

And really it's just because I
don't actually like the web.

I think it's incredibly restrictive.

And I don't need any of
the networking stuff and

it's just like too much responsibility
I don't like OK if I make this

application I want to sell it to
a customer and they buy it and

then I don't want to hear from ever again
I don't want to have to be responsible for

like going into business and killing their
entire career because they can't use their

favorite suffer anymore if I just decide
one day I'm not going to make my suffer

anymore they don't lose anything they
might not get any updates about yeah.

Do you mind if I just go into the
questions a little bit because I I I so

you know I mean this is the important when
I talk about this real time scheduling.

In javascript is just you can't do it.

But you can do things
that like real time so.

Yeah everyone's heard
it all the stories but

you know I just keep coming up with this
against this issue where I I have to do

all sorts of crazy time haps text to get
around garbage collection issues and so

that's the thing you're going to have to
accept if you if you do anything with

javascript is you are going to have to
respect that javascript is javascript and

get on with your life but we would
you know it's great because it's not

it doesn't actually you don't get dropouts
when you when you have garbage collection

it's just you've got to make sure messages
have gotten to the Web video and time from

the play otherwise you get time travelling
which means you don't hear any sound.

And there's no way of getting perfect
just a free medium put at the moment.

And that no one cares about that.

So.

This thing here is actually
being controlled directly from.

And I can do that because
I'm using electronic.

So.

Actually I've got a native ed on which
leads me to speak to this little serial to

U.S.B. to serial converter and
it means that.

Because I restart it but you saw it
last night you know it was pretty.

And I also have wi version of
it as well so that you can.

You can host a site
directly out of loop drop.

Sorry.

This is the last thing for us.

Thank you so what that means you can
stream you visualize it to a different

computer on the network so you can
have a laptop on the projector and.

So that's that's that's why electrons Coke
is just made to do all the crazy things

that you just can't quite do and you want
yes so that's pretty much all I'm going to

talk about the join the slack you've
got to get on that it's great.

And we want you know school is one thing
that I've been developing that teaches.

People that don't know anything about.

Javascript how to use it as an indirect of
tutorial so check that out some might get

help and that's way more than
I had time for so thanks.

Thanks.

Thanks Matt thanks for getting all the
troubleshooted to share with us time for

question.

Yeah I was curious about some
of the performance bottlenecks

you might have with something
like electron Yes So

I was going to talk about that so
with a little.

You mean as opposed as opposed
to a night of application or

as opposed to the browser.

Yeah as a standalone I wasn't sure last
night you had some moments where it was

right for me like you OK I wasn't sure if
it was related to be so I'm going to do

my explanation of what happened last night
and I think will answer your question.

OK so.

There was a.

Catastrophic dropout last night
when I was performing and

that was actually caused not
by Javascript but by me set.

Through it and that was because I was
trying to do too many things at once and

the reason that was doing too many things
is because I didn't realize I still

had my last song playing so I had it
turned it down and I hadn't Tim and

I had it and it was still remembering
a whole bunch of stuff and so

once I mean I was doing
about maybe a third.

At that moment.

Freaked out and.

I was on every channel running it just it.

But I didn't actually have any.

Question.