What is it. This just a cloud here about the different kinds of things that I think you know what is it what isn't it. We are a global marketplace. So you know you see Katrina in there and you see education you see bank and you see different issues and you see Nike we really want to be a platform really in infrastructure that is essential for the smooth functioning of global philanthropy. So we view ourselves as a platform which means we have a lot of different things going on. And you know the reason as I mentioned when Dennis and Laurie found a Global Giving we really wanted to create a place where anybody who had a great idea and some bit of infrastructure to help implement it could access capital in the United States and we now have a sister organization in the U.K. but it's really providing access to these social entrepreneurs an idea generators and finding ways for them to to get funds that they couldn't have otherwise. So it's going to play this quick. Public service announcement video this is this is what this is one of the reasons I love my job. So this was done for us pro bono by a guy who wanted Directors Guild Award made a really bad movie what was it. To go back and remember but this guy likes made real movies and he actually made Hoosiers I know there are some basketball fans at Georgia Tech. So the director who made this is that guy so I got to go watch this thing being filmed in a warehouse in L.A. in the middle of the night. That that's how we're trying to describe Global Giving in one. Thirty second spot. So let me tell you I'm sort of talk about blood sweat and tears let me tell you a little bit about where we are today as of the date is a little bit old. But as of a cop out a month or so ago we had about thirty little over thirty and a half million dollars of donations come through the Global Giving platform either through the website or through checks or other kind of contributions from companies. And when I say that thirty and a half million that specifically two projects that are posted on our website. I'm going to go through in detail works. Three thousand organizations around the world three thousand projects I should say run by over a thousand organizations have received funding and that money has come from one hundred ten. It's actually now about one hundred thirteen thousand donors. So Global Giving is very much made for the ten dollars donor the fifty dollars donor and we feel as though if you're a ten dollar donor or a fifty dollar donor you should have as much information about where your money is going. Whether it's going to you know the women's organization against domestic violence indicator or the women's domestic violence organization in Zimbabwe. That there should be some sense of what's going on. So we also work with really cool companies and this is mostly what I do which makes it fun to have my job. OK Couple of hypotheses I mentioned sort of the the spark behind Global Giving as far as bottom up solutions versus top down solutions but there are a couple of hypotheses that we sort of live by one is the notion of the wisdom of the crowds anybody familiar with this. Yes say. Tell us. Talk louder so Mike. Perfect. So Global Giving is very much built on the notion that if lots of people who aren't experts are provided with a lot of with information that they can evaluate about which organizations are doing what that they're likely to make as good of decisions if not better then a group of small experts in development in choosing the best solutions and so the concept of the marketplace part of that is the importance of data and the importance of feedback loops and so I'll show you a couple of examples of how we're trying to get unique approaches to implement unique approaches to getting feedback about what's actually happening in communities. Traditionally when. Large philanthropic contributions are made overseas or even here in the U.S. you know foundations. No offense to the foundations in the room. Require a lot of reporting and evaluation and monitoring and impact assessment and all that stuff is good but it's really an evolving field in philanthropy people are trying to figure out how to make good assessments about what's working and what's not without causing so much of a burden on nonprofits that they're spending all their time doing gathering of data and reporting. And the technologies that are out there today make it much much more possible to gather that kind of information in a sort of thin layer kind of way rather than a really onerous way. So we're experiment ing with how to get that kind of feedback. We'd like to say that we'd rather be the yelp of assessment than the Michelin Guide of assessment. So we're looking for crowdsourcing and. Again this. Sort of crowd involvement in the feedback loops rather than necessarily the experts. Although it do consult with experts. So what do we do we provide a whole set of tools for these social entrepreneurs to raise money and for donors as well. So this is a screenshot of our website home page about a month ago. Just gives you a sense if you haven't been there you can look up projects by theme or topic and then by country so we have right now about a thousand projects in about seventy five countries that are listed on the website. And this is a good example fifty elementary scholarships for Liberian children go into detail on this. This is a project page. So the project page you can see has a lot of information that consistent with what I was saying about how are set up. It's got very specific hard to read that every project has very specific donation options. So it might say you know for fifteen dollars it's going to pay for one girl's school uniform for a year it might be. It is impossible to read it might buy a backpack for somebody. It might be vaccinations in a particular village in part of the world. It could be you know micro hundred dollars you know provides a micro loan for one. Entrepreneur somewhere. Was anybody here for the Mohammad Yunus talk. So you know about like your experts on micro finance Now in addition to the detail on the project. You can see that there's information about how many people have given and how many dollars have been raised this is again trying to provide information for decision making. So creating sort of trust cues. So that when people go and look at a project they can say Well I can see that on this one. They've raised thirty twenty four thousand dollars from two hundred twenty four people two hundred twenty four people think it's a decent project it probably doesn't. Completely suck. Yes So we're trying to put that kind of information out there and then there's a lot of sharing you know you can put it on your Facebook knowledge stuff we have the ubiquitous Facebook Like button and try to provide as much information what you can't see but you can see if you go to the site is that every project and we've actually changed these project pages has just a tremendous amount of information it has What's the project going to do. Where is it who's running it has pictures it has updates just a tremendous amount of information and that's all provided by the organization doing the work on the ground. That would help in the OK so other tools. There's two ways that can that the platform can be used for fund raising the one on the left is more for the organization itself so this is a screenshot of one of our project organizations. They've taken this widget from their project on Global Giving and put it on their home page. They don't. This is this is an organization that is not a U.S. charity and so part of what Global Giving is doing is making it possible for non U.S. charities to raise charitable money in the United States we go through a very extensive vetting process for each of these organizations oppose a project. So these guys right now the only way they're going to be able to get tax deductible money from United States donors is by going through Global Giving So they're taking a widget off of our site for their project putting it there. On the one on the right is a fundraiser. So the site has tools for I mean you all have raised funds you told me initially. So the site has tools to set up fundraisers. And in this case this one is a running team that was raising money for the Girl Effect which I'm going to talk about a little bit. OK this is kind of boring. The foundation people didn't think it was boring today but you guys probably think it's boring. This is but it's actually. Kind of cool because what happens is every time somebody makes a donation to your project if you're the project leader you get a ping an e-mail or however you want it that says hey somebody made a donation your project. You can go back and this is a console that we have so even if you're in some remote part of the world do you know exactly how many donations have been made to this particular project in what time frame. You can thank people immediately through the site. And you can then and expect. I know how much money to expect to receive in the next disbursement we send money to about ninety five countries. Every month. To six hundred project organizations in ninety five countries every month. OK back to the feedback loop so every part of the deal for being a project on Global Giving is you have to agree to post an update once a quarter and so again that's all done through the site. This is an example of a note that in Oregon is a shit I'll talk about in a minute posted and again just to reiterate the feedback we make it possible for people who read the comments to say I found this valuable and to make comments if they want to they're not I didn't show them on the screen shot but the idea is to have more of a conversation so that if I post an update and you're the donor who reads it and you think it's baloney you can comment about that or if you have a follow up question there's more interaction going on. OK. And then finally as I mentioned we're trying to use some new ways of assessing impact so that to start on the right side. Anybody ever seen the chart with the red dots before. Looked at all familiar. Yes she's saying yes you know it is. Right. So you. Probably all can hear you can look up in your ears this is a this is a map of Atlanta and the red dots show the number of violent attacks in those parts of Atlanta. During the period May two thousand and nine to December two thousand and nine and these sorts of systems are all you know all over the place. Now we have one in D.C. The reason I show it is because what what they're testing through this is that you know all of this data exists in police records some newspapers post it. But people don't go there they don't read it and so but the technology exists to map it now easily and in this case it's like well people can just get a quick look and get a sense for what's going on in their community and so we're trying to take that same concept and consumer demand if you will and apply it to what's happening in the areas where we have projects that are being implemented. So the thing on the left is an experiment that we did recently in Kibera which is the largest slum in Kenya outside of Nairobi connected to and I wrote and I really where we said OK what are what are the things that your community needs the most bridge a pump a clinic and then we can map it and show all this. Ben we can map it similar to the data you have there about exactly where people saying they need things. There's also a similar technology that. One of our colleagues is using you know everyone's like implementing water pumps all over the place you see all this you know charity water and build a well in all these other water water water which is important. But what's what people are finding now is and there's play pumps you know where the kids go around a little merry go round thing and it generates power and that gets water going where people are finding is that. These things get implemented and within a year they're broken and so they just get abandoned and so there are so somebody might be coming to Global Giving saying I'm paying one hundred dollars to put in a pump in some village but a year later it's broken. So now. A group called Water dot org is using to this kind of technology to have people text message information about broken pumps. So that instead of just I'm paying a hundred dollars for a new pump. There can be follow up on the ones that are out there so that they're actually being used so these are the kinds of tech sort of. As I mentioned utilizing the fact that most Kenyans have cell phones they don't necessarily have internet. So why not use the technology that they're using. OK a couple of examples of the kinds of organizations that are just kind of fun. This first one is pretty awesome it's had the chance to visit it. Last summer in Tanzania. It's called Hero rats. And this is a guy who figured out that he could train rats to sniff out landmines. And now he's found that he could train the rats to sniff sniff swab swabs from your cheek to sniff out TB because people in poor neighborhoods don't go to the clinic and get checked. So they can literally go around and gather up swabs in neighborhoods put them in these test tubes. I've actually seen. And the rats literally like can figure out which which of the specimens people have TB or not it's pretty amazing. So this is a guy who was in a Shoka fellow a social entrepreneurship organization and we got connected to him he had this project on the website kind of. Wasn't doing much I mean you know raise a little bit of money here and there. He's Belgian he has some access to money. He works out of a university in Tanzania. But Nick Kristoff who writes for The New York Times' anybody read Nick Kristoff if you want to be a social entrepreneur you should read Nick Kristoff is one of the best journalists out there for telling the truth just by opinion. So Nick Kristoff writes for The New York Times and he stands us an e-mail and says you know what project should I tell people to give as a donation in honor of their father on Father's Day rather than buying him a tie. And we're like he's like I like that rat one like yes hero rats. So Nick Kristoff writes this article right before Father's Day. Also his father passed away like the week before Father's Day so he writes this emotional article about his father and then he goes on to say like who needs another tie make a donation to this hero rats project on Global Giving and send a card to your dad because the gets a macho you know T.V. and Landmine sniffing rats for his father's day gift and not a stupid tie. You know with like windmills on it. Two weeks later two hundred thousand dollars two hundred thousand dollars so the power of the media in philanthropy is huge and give you some other examples of that and the cool thing is that update. I showed you these guys are awesome because they say it was like we gave them a heads up so they let they knew it was common and they started sending updates out so you know we had I think three thousand people gave in the course of two weeks around Father's Day but they were posting updates like every three or four days. So everybody who had given would get an update some people gave twice in the course of two weeks. It was really phenomenal. And so every so often great things happened to really good projects. This is another one smaller scale this is a local project in D.C. It's like shooting back some of you might be familiar with that's called Critical exposure. Works with inner city kids teaches them digital photography but also uses the photography as a way to advocate for change in the public schools. And so this these guys were down the hall from us in our office in D.C. and we had a challenge sort of a fund raising challenge for for us focused organizations they really had never raised money before you know it's one thing to like be in school and get ten your friends to give but for these guys who had just started this organization they didn't really have a donor database but they knew they had friends and they had Facebook fans and whatever. So they used our little. Fund raising challenge as a way to test out whether or not their networks had network effects because probably read and talk about network effects. Right. So I have ten friends they have ten friends etc So three weeks later they had five hundred new donors and twenty thousand dollars and they won the challenge and so it's just a couple of examples of how you just kind of never know. And we often find with organizations outside of the US they think they don't have any networks but once they start organizing and asking people to use the tools. They're pretty amazed by how many networks in fact they have so the question then becomes will dismantle fall from heaven for everyone. Right. I mean like the hero rats everybody doesn't it sort of goes back to that if we build it they will come there. Because the hero rats is a little bit like that. It's like we put our project on we got two hundred thousand dollars. That doesn't happen to everybody so Global Giving does a lot in this is kind of what I spend a lot of my time doing to try to drive donors to the website because as we all agreed we don't wake up in the morning and just decide to go look for a website to get to some remote place. So we do what any e-commerce business would do we do a Google Ad Words for paid search we make sure our website. You know has good search engine optimization we do outreach to the media. You have a seventeen thousand Twitter followers. We have a Facebook page. We do all sorts of sort of traditional media to drive donors in addition to that we work with special opportunities. So I talked about Nick Kristoff pretty powerful another powerful media person. Oprah Winfrey who may recognize her she did two two stories last year on women and girls and as part of that she created a registry on her website on Oprah dot com. Just sort of like a little mini Global Giving Actually it was about fifteen projects I think maybe twenty projects that were all women and girl related and so we had three they called us they said well we have you want to put some projects on this we're like yeah. So they took three projects one in Uganda what it was amala and one in Afghanistan and she talked about the registry she asked people to go and see if they were just in giving and we had to get our servers all toned up because they have all these do you know we're going to have two million hits in five minutes. It was not two million hits and by a minute but we did end up having three those three projects receive about thirty thirty or forty thousand dollars each. Just through being featured on this page with twenty other projects. So we look we sweetie actively look for opportunities like this to expose our projects to the media. We also work with companies on employee giving So you guys are all familiar with the United Way campaign right. So most many companies are kind of shifting away from just the traditional United Way campaign to more open employee giving programs and in the case of Nike they actually Devore had a United Way campaign. That's happened just historically is United Way is mostly a U.S. set of programs so the whole notion of I work somewhere and my employer might match what I'm giving or they're going to encourage me to give That's a. Sort of uniquely American thing but now we have all these multi national kind of organizations and they have people in Belgium and U.K. and all over the place. Asia. So they wanted one program for everybody. So we built them a version of Global Giving that sits inside their employee Intron net. And so all the Global Giving projects and and then projects in organizations that Nike employees recommend are available to their employees to give to and Nike matches all of their donations. Interestingly they don't just match them one for one they actually give them like a little gift voucher. So they can match the same so they give to. They are mostly in Portland Oregon. So if they give to Oregon State. If you they're not a rifle they're a totally different part of the world in conference. Then they can say I want my match to go to Oregon State or they can go and find another project and give the matching money to a different project. So we built the website we run the website we handle. The vetting of new organizations that their employees want to give to and because of this again those projects that have come on the site are receiving money from ploy. There's no way they would have reached I.Q. employees before. So part of our job is to get them exposed so we also work on sort of cause marketing campaigns. So a good example of this is one that just finished up that we did with Neutrogena anybody ever bought grapefruit body wash. Come on women put your hands up. OK so last month in a back to school kind of campaign. Neutrogena came to us and they said actually was their P.R. firm came to us and they said so. Neutrogena wants to do this campaign where for every bottle of grapefruit body washer cleanser they're giving a dollar. Or and they want three different programs to receive the money and we love your platform and you guys get social media. So let's do we would like to do this with you. So we. Worked with them to identify three projects. One was girls' education in Senegal one was it was the other one Haiti relief and one was. Assessing damage to wildlife to make wildlife when you call them dolphins and whales mammals in the Gulf. After Hurricane Katrina and I know this third one sounds a little random and you can see that the spokespeople for these products are Vanessa Hudgens and Hayden pantie here. So does anyone have any idea why we might be looking at dolphins and whales in the Gulf Coast. Think about movies Hayden might a bit one again. Hayden was in a movie called The Cove which was briefly which was about. Whale hunters and Dolphin hunters in Japan. Is pretty intense movie. So she became very interested in this issue of saving the dolphins. So she asked us to get her favorite charity up on to Global Giving. So that it could be the recipient of part of this program which sounds kind of sketchy but in reality there's nothing wrong with it right. I mean it's a good cause she's their spokesperson and what they know is that those three issues disaster relief girls' education and the environment or animals matter to their consumers the people who buy Neutrogena products. So for a month a dollar went to every project they had a way on Facebook that you could vote for which of those three projects you thought you'd prefer the money to go to Hayden's project lost big time just for the record. But they raise two hundred thousand dollars that they just put out a press release yesterday. So in that way you know Global Giving is really embracing the corporate world. Even though I am a corporate refugee you know we kind of view it as these companies are trying to do better in the world and to use the power of their brands and their marketing dollars to have some positive impact. I got we got some pretty interesting letters from people when we announced this program. Just for those of you who are planning to be social entrepreneurs. Got some interesting letters from people saying you know it was bad that we were working with Neutrogena because they're a cosmetics company and they're destroying young women's self-esteem. And not only that but they have chemicals in all these products that are massively bad for the environment and they might cause cancer and all of that's probably got some truth to it. So I spent some time responding to these letters about you know we're all in a we're all on a journey to be better citizens of the planet and I just share that with you because I think even in the do gooder world. Nobody's ever. You know you can't get a hundred percent of the votes all the time. So this is this is pretty fun they did a special little mini version of made on M.T.V. I know you guys know what that is I had no idea before we did this. OK this is one of the fun ones. The Girl Effect. I'm going to actually show you a short video and then tell you what what it's all about anybody seen the Girl Effect video a couple of people. OK. Hopefully it will work this time right John. So pretty cool. And so or you might think it's really bad. So we were pretty excited actually to work with the Nike Foundation on this. So after you watch the video on the Girl Effect website actually before there's a like do something about this link and that ends up a Global Giving And so what we've done is we have about nine or ten projects that are focused on girls in developing countries that are also recipients of Nike Foundation grants. And I will tell you that the demographic so the average donor to Global Giving is like forty year old woman highly educated lives in a major city. But for this program. It's way younger even more female. Not surprisingly. And it's really it really has kind of gone viral. I mean so we've had three hundred fifty thousand dollars or something and they're launching Girl Effect to hopefully later this month in the called Action is going to be a mobile giving option. So you know text blank tests. GIRL two blank like like I think it's five five five five. You know and I will send that around. Because it's actually lives that that is that's pretty cool thing we like doing that best job in the world. Another example of these are all just things ways that we leverage that sort of basic website platform to to get more people involved in philanthropy. So we talked about the notion of crowdsourcing of information and voting. So moving from crowdsourcing to crowd funding. And what that means is we run challenges giving challenges at various times on the site. This one we did with athletes for hope which works with athletes you know big name athletes like Steve Nash and sort of regular old athletes that probably no one's ever heard of the. Unlike the women's soccer team. And they put either their charities that they were involved with or they adopted one of the projects on Global Giving and we ran a three week campaign where they were all competing for prize money essentially So the projects that got the most donors and the most dollars got were competing for like forty thousand dollars of prize money. So Steve Nash won at the literally like at midnight on the last night some five thousand dollars donation came in which seemed a little bit weird to me so. Steve Nash Julie Foudy is a soccer player and Tony Hawk. Escape or dude. And it was actually kind of fun. I think they've had fun with it. They all use their you know social networks and their fan bases and all that stuff but it's another example of trying to use technology in an innovative way to engage people in giving in the last program that and the biggest one that we're involved with is something that we've been spending a lot of time on I know this is a Coca-Cola city. I apologize. But the Pepsi Refresh project's anybody heard of this a few people pretty good pretty good. OK So let me just quickly show you. Their ad. Better music than our P.S.A. don't you think. So for those of you who aren't familiar with this program. This is probably the largest crowd sourced giving program in the world. So what Pepsi has done is take twenty million dollars this year and as it describes there quickly. Any idea which can come from an individual for profit company or a nonprofit that falls into one of those thematic categories people submit if you can get in. And then there's a month of voting and every month thirty two grants are selected based purely on the public vote and it's been a really interesting exercise started and in January Global Giving once the winners of the voter announced we actually do all of the validation that the people who proposed the idea. Are they said they are that they have a plan that we understand where the money how the money is going to be used with the budget is and we handle all the disbursement of the money for Pepsi. So it's so far they've had over fifty million votes. They've awarded about seven million dollars in grants. To up to almost two hundred organizations and it's been a really really interesting exercise and I think it has sparked a lot of interest in the sort of corporate social responsibility cause marketing kind of space. Lots of companies are coming to us and saying we want to many Pepsi Refresh. But I think the idea that. Brands will are using their marketing money to try to engage their customers and invest in things that their customers actually care about rather than just bartering them with funny commercials is something that you know could be a trend. It could. It may end up not being a trend but it's certainly something. People are kind of playing around with now and it is totally the reason why I love my job. Plus we get good Pepsi swag. So just a few lessons learned and where we're going next. They know we need to leave some time for a few questions. OK online giving is not like buying a song on i Tunes. It's kind of what I'm saying about people don't wake up in the morning I heard that song and I this great app on my i Phone called Sound Hound anybody and i Phone. Sound. You're listening to the radio car it hears the song and immediately tells you what song it is if you want to buy it. It's like one click it is totally awesome. OK that is not how philanthropies works right. People usually people give because somebody they know asks them to. Or there's a disaster. But it's generally not. Just think I care. Somebody. So it's not that impulsive. Experimentation iteration are key to survival. We just we just keep trying different stuff. And you know we're constantly changing the website the way we're displaying things how we communicate. Trying new technologies like the text messaging thing and I think for any entrepreneur you have to be you have to have the D.N.A. to live like that you have to be willing to think that you know plan a ninety nine percent of the time isn't going to pan out. So what's plan B. and Plan C. and keep trying. Just because you have a big brand for a partner doesn't mean your program will succeed John and I talked about this the very first time we were on the phone and I explained to him that we had this huge brand that we did a program for and they paid us a bunch of money to build these this Web site and they put no energy behind this cause marketing program. I mean zero compared to the ones I showed you. Neutrogena and Pepsi. It was like we really just want to have a vanity site that we can show people like hey look we're doing good things for clean water in developing countries but the. Did nothing with it from my perspective I don't want to do business with them anymore. That doesn't help our mission of trying to get more funds out to out to the ground. Social media is great for friending and Fanning is still relatively crappy for getting. The snow we get a lot of referrals from Twitter we get a lot of referrals from Facebook some blogs but generally again people give when somebody there's a reason when somebody asks. And then you know as I mentioned before it's more about blocking and tackling than throwing forty yard completions and then finally where are we going to keep getting better at understanding our customers and our and this is for any business in our case our customers are donors their companies and their social entrepreneurs is so we need to be ever mindful of how we're serving each one of those. Embracing new technologies as I talked about and then improving how we evaluate but not just how we value but how how we communicate and how we can make it visible to anybody who wants information about what's happening out there on the ground. What's going on. So that's kind of where we are little short story. Happy to answer any questions. Thanks. So I see a guy right here glasses white shirt. OK. Speak up because you don't have a mike. Did you write me a letter about Neutrogena. It's an interesting question. I mean I'm trying to think is as I'm. Tapdancing up here about those sorts of programs I mean one of the things that I'm trying to think like you know if you're. Let's use one example. That's that's probably a good one where we've had some controversy still stove zero A lot of stove projects on Global Giving So instead of people. You know having to walk quickly women having to walk to get fuel for their stove. Which puts them in jeopardy of date of violent crime etc create more fuel efficient stoves so they can have to do that. Less frequently and also those that are better vented so for their health purposes they're not inhaling as much. Well some people think that a lot of those stoves are actually putting as much crap into the environment as the old fires they were using. So there's different views on that. I think you know it's like I was saying before we think that everybody's sort of moving forward trying to do a positive thing I can't think of a project we have that's like ruining a part of the ecosystem. But if you find one on our Web site you can email me and tell me a serious A I can't think I'm not a me you have an example. I'm just trying to think of like I suppose it could be like housing which is displacing the links you know I mean which would be like. I'd say a really bad answer I really can't think of an example. Yeah. No no we do not. Again that's very we're vetting the organization for legitimacy and then the project is pretty much up to the people in the on the ground and our assumption is that over time through tools like what we showed you. If they're really having some destructive impact in their community that will surface. About a project. Absolutely yeah. We would even go further and probably write a blog post about it. How do we collect payment to get to the right place. Yeah. So people pay us through mostly through credit card also Pay Pal and we also do accept checks there are a bunch of online donation engines that don't accept checks we think that's kind of silly. It doesn't take that much work. So let's say we have five thousand transactions in a week or a month or whatever. So literally they're coming in to seven hundred projects we have a system where we reconcile that against which projects and then every month we disperse funds out to the projects unless they only have if less they only have like two hundred dollars or less in which case we hold it until they get to that point because it's not really that efficient to move small amounts of money for US organizations that have US operations we tend to write them checks. And then we wire funds overseas to all the other organizations that are based overseas. So you. Don't need a pen. Just. Yeah OK So our goal from the beginning has been to generate enough revenue on our own steam to not have to do Foundation grant funding forever. We're not quite there. So right now we're moving in that direction this year will cover about seventy five percent of our costs through revenue the revenue comes from two places every time somebody makes a donation we retain twelve and a quarter percent. Sometimes less for some of these corporate deals but basically we retain twelve and a quarter percent. And then on all these corporate deals we get paid for the services we're providing essentially So it's. Building a website or doing to diligence or running a campaign or whatever. So the combination of those two covers about seventy five percent. We have been funded. Not surprisingly by. Private foundations that are run by former Silicon Valley entrepreneurs so founder of e Bay pyramid E R first president of e-bay Jeff Skoal one of the founders of Yahoo day follow and his wife. They've been significant funders of ours because they kind of get this these concepts. And then a few other smaller private foundations. Was. They hired me. How did you get the momentum an easy answer actually Asian tsunami South Asian tsunami that was the. Unfortunately that was the sort of catalyst for people finding us they peeped like just out of the woodwork people found us and companies found us they would like Google and find us and call and say hi. We want to give fifty thousand dollars to a project in Thailand can you help us find one. And that we had literally been like bumping along for a few years of those like boom and then it sort of and then boom. But that was that was when it kind of started. Yes we've faced lots of criticism partially because of the twelve and a quarter percent people think that's too much. And they're like what you're a nonprofit How can you be keeping this money is so overhead and we hate overhead. So that we feel like what we offer to the people raising funds on arse. Right. As I just demonstrated is pretty good. And we're trying to make it better. That's one criticism another criticism is that we don't do that kind of deep evaluation before we post project on the site. So some of the some of the question is how do you really know that this guy in. Bangalore is legit. You don't really know until you have some experience with him I mean you do whatever you can to look at the documentation that they provided cetera. So that's why there are some people who are sort of skeptical about that. Those are the two main things I would say. I personally. I mean there is a rat named Donna now. But they have funny names the rats like Martin Luther King. Saddam Hussein sort of. How those two get in the same cage I don't know but OK so it was first question. I turn down projects. Yes So as long as we can validate that the organization or who you know whatever's has ever seen the project is like a legitimate organization. We let them come on the site. We run these contests sort of like the athletes for hope one for every It lets you come through a corporate partner you have to demonstrate that you actually get what Global Giving is and that you might be able to use it so we run these challenges so you have to raise four thousand dollars from at least fifty donors in a month in order to stay on the site and that's that's the main way we weed people out actually because if they can't mobilize that many people it's like either they're not for real or it's a lot easier to get people to vote for you than it is to pull get them to pull out their wallet so that's a little bit of the crowdfunding concept. Occasionally we'll have a situation where the project we in this is where the the open and transparent stuff works where somebody posts a project and then someone posts on their project page. This is B.S. This is not what's happening and then we'll follow up and find out. And we've actually had two instances where we've taken projects down and one in Kenya where we actually worked with the project leader who it turns out you know wasn't doing anything wrong he just was totally overextended and so he wasn't he had too much going on. So we can actually brought in some resources from Kenya to help him organize his organization more to be able to be more effective. No. I didn't. Yeah I'll be I'm be around. I don't think my dinner date is here. Is anyone here from California. Do you have a question. OK Yes I'm from California. So that's the only fair way to do it where you're from. Orange County that's too bad. OK. How many employees. We have about twenty five employees and we have the most kick ass in turns ever. We have all the time like ten interns some undergrad lots of graduate students. There's a lot of international development programs in D.C.. And you there national business at Georgetown so we get really really awesome graduate interns and we pay them. Thank you.