So thank you very much indeed for that for that introduction and for the forty and for patient Thank you all for for coming and for allowing me to speak about Black History of quantum mechanics rather than about Einstein and general T.V.. So. What I'm going to be talking about his sort of sides interested in so the general pattern of how theories change and the received wisdom of this is still. The theory that was put into circulation by Thomas Kuhn it is one hundred sixty two classic like the Structure of Scientific Revolutions and it's about paradigm shifts and I don't think that fits like the developments of modern physics like very well so I worked on a paper where I looked at a few episodes in the development of special relativity general tutti of quantum mechanics where I want to push like another. Another idea about how serious change that that I use for which I use a metaphor called arch and scaffolds and explain to you and I'll talk about like a very specific like case study did a cover and paper that has to do with the transition from what is known as a yard on the rock transformation theory to fund for more months Hilbert Space. So first let me say a little bit about to about the general project so this is cool like almost a decade before he publishes The Structure of Scientific Revolutions in a grant application and so he says like science that's not progress by adding stones to an initially incomplete structure but by tearing down one habitable structure and rebuilding to a new plan with the old materials perhaps new ones besides So the picture that you know look it's Is that what happens in a paradigm shift is that the old paradigm gets leveled and on the burning embers of the old one you were wrecked to do one and. So I don't think that is a very credible picture of how science advances and so to question that it's like our the scientific revolutions we don't dispute that you know like the quantum revolution like it's for a reason that this is called like a revolution say for relativity are these revolutions really as disruptive as this image suggests and even if you look at QUT himself you see that he is very fond of using these metaphors and they're not all as there most of them are not nearly as disruptive feste what he puts like in that in that grant application so the basic idea flecked The Structure of Scientific Revolutions place with the idea of it's like a political revolution but so be a look at the chemical revolution to date had century like very consciously used the term revolution in that sort of political sense for the changes that he was going to bring about. In chemistry so that's one metaphor but could also like uses other metaphors to explain how the rich change so in his book in the late fifty's about the Copernican revolution he describes like Copernicus as sort of a bend in the roads but so he says like if you if you follow what happens after Copernicus you look at Galileo Kepler Newton and you look back you sort of you know you see that it looks as if it started with Copernicus but in fact what happens is that there is a bend to the road and if you look forward for a block. You also she just like not just going off into infinity but there is nothing really if you followed all the ground nothing discontinuous it just bits right so that that metaphor is not at all destructive and I think that it's actually a very apt metaphor to describe the transition from told me to prove it could Copernican astronomy another one that he's very fond off is the notion of a stalled switch right where you you know you look at it and you see a doc and now you look at it and you see a rabbit again you know there's something very discontinuous about it but it's not disruptive. It's not that you ripped down the dock and then construct the rabbit No you see it differently so again like this continuity but not but not disruptive. So. So now left of the question then becomes like what about what about the quantum revolution what what what what's the transition from the old quantum theory of board some befell to modern quantum mechanics in the mid twenty's what was said like so I sampled like a few statements about this and so some people say yes this was very discontinuous so I don't know what textbook is being used here at the undergraduate level of Minnesota we used this book but Griffith Griffith writes in the preface of his book he says quantum mechanics is not in my view something that flows smoothly and naturally from earliest the research on the contrary it represents an rapped and revolutionary departure from classical ideas and similarly like the historian of physics now held a crock of his book about the history of the old quantum theory towards the end he says matrix mechanics grew out of what little was left of the old quantum theory it's roots right it's almost exactly that metaphor that that who used in this in this grant application and then here so you know we have like a lot of textbook writer and historian of physics and he is somebody who actually lift through like this period my countryman Hendrik cost and he writes in his you know well known autobiography have pastored reality he says between one hundred twenty four and nine hundred twenty eight and so he wrote paraphrased to develop a new quantum mechanics swept physics like an enormous wave tearing down professional structures stripping classical edifice of illegitimate extensions and clearing a most fertile soil so that if you're focused on world metaphors you see that he's mixing as metaphors a little bit but you see years also the emphasis on like tearing down right but even here like the tearing down it's like it's not complete right it's staring down illegitimate extensions of edifice so there's also like you can. Statements. Knowledgeable people who deny that theory is that there is this element of tearing down in this transition so Max jammer who wrote like the students databanks the best sort of single volume of the conceptual development of quantum mechanics in one thousand nine hundred sixty six so he writes in the rights of the Preface He says the primary objective is this book is to study off how in the process of constructing the conceptual edifice of quantum mechanics each states depended on those proceeding it without necessarily falling from them as a logical consequence but this is very different from the picture like you know out with the old and in with the with the new and here like you know one of the architects of quantum mechanics Paul the rock quoted in another book approvingly by Olivia Donegal a prominent historian of a more recent historian of quantum mechanics wonderful book from C. numbers to Q. numbers from one thousand nine hundred two he quotes the rock as saying the new quantum theory requires very few changes from the classical theory and then adding sort of paradoxically these changes being of a fundamental nature right so that many of the features of the classical theory to which it so it's attractiveness can be taken over and changed into the quantum theory so you see that there are there's a variety of opinion on like this question of whether or not there was really sort of a destructive change tried to select I lead very much to the view here that it was not that it was not the tearing down of anything so now what could what did himself have to say about the quantum revolution right because like you know it's one thing that he has to say the structure of something bigger evolutions he also did a lot of historical work just all the development of quantum mechanics and they're actually like he also does not endorse this picture that you would get from structure so the one thing that he emphasizes is like a crisis that's very much like part of his model of a paradigm shifts rightly the paradigm is abandoned after it's a masses like a lot of anomalies and you know would be and people figure out like this is not a problem with the theorists but it's a problem with the theory and then you know you're looking for something new but when he didn't talks about like you know how did we get out of the crisis he talks about like well this is a series of connected steps and in fact like one of his colleagues who did it like this this has this image of like he was a radical change he is very critical of that So this is the other philosophers like it were a lot of dos and he says well you know his account of the quantum revolution is like a magician pulling a rabbit from a hats like he doesn't want any any of that. So the upshot that is for for. Despite this this quote that I started with the new quantum theory was not really built on the burning embers of the old quantum theory right it was a sequence of like complicated steps so this this this metaphor of tearing down is not a very good metaphor so I want to introduce like a different metaphor and the better for us one of our church that scaffolds that was we do original title of my talk and sometimes. A new theory is built like an arch on the scaffold provided by the old theory and once the new theory can support itself like you know the scaffold like drops out and I've worked on this like to show that that this is like the case this is a good way to understand like to your arrival of special relativity general to be the envy. Serious steps in the development. Of quantum theory and I'm going to give I'm going to talk about the specific example of that where unfortunately I picked this example because there the metaphor gets caught if it gets kind of messy and therefore I think a little more interesting so the image that you are looking at the background disposals up here for is to illustrate this metaphor so this is the construction of what was originally noticed the Strand Brits are just across the fence if you early nineteenth century which was then read a the Waterloo Bridge to commemorate the battle it eight hundred seventy days British worse than the story at some time in the twentieth century and rebuilt but it was sitting there for wartime and you see you know elect the wood scaffold to deadlock the arch built on top of that. Now there's different uses of this metaphor so the use that I'm most interested in is that you use a scaffold to built like a new arch but there's another way that you can use a scaffold maybe you could use a scuffle to prevent an arch that you've already built from collapsing this is just like the building metaphor it turns out you know having looked at this how this is used by scientists to have collected some passages where people use sort of similar sort of metaphors that among mathematicians this second use is actually popular and so is here is Hilbert in a lecture in nineteen zero five where he says the beliefs of science are not erected the way residential property is where the retaining walls are put in place before wall moves on to the construction and expansion of living quarters size prefers to get it habitable spaces ready as quickly as possible to conduct its business only afterwards when it turns out that the loosely on an even late foundations cannot carry the weight of some additions to the living quarters the sides get around to support and secure those foundations and then he asked this is not of the fish and sea but rotted the correct and healthy developments so the concrete example that I'm going to be talking about is going to evolve like the great mathematician John for Norma and so she should perhaps not be too surprising that you can tell the story sort of both ways as for Lloyd mom like building is own arch on the scaffold providing by the physicists like your Don and the rock or S. football among providing like a scuffle to prevent the rickety arch off the physicist from collapsing mathematical shortcomings. So this is the case study looking at like the transition from your Dom to full right and remember like what I'm after like in the big picture is select to characterize this transition using a very different metaphor then like you know the paradigm shifts that most of you will be familiar with from from who. So I'm going to start sort of in I'm not going to give you like a fool history of quantum mechanics I'm just going to start like in this period like in the middle of one thousand nine hundred twenty six where after a period there where it was not a single theory that worked there was now kind of an embarrassment of riches there were four different theories that seemed to work and so they were like there was matrix mechanics so this was like done by Heisenberg by borne by your done a good thing in there is like wave mechanics by Schroedinger in Vienna there is cute numbers by Paul the rock in Cambridge not completely independent of the basics mechanics but different and then like the least known of the four it's of the operator calculus of born and Norbert Vader Witchboard worked out when he visited with her at MIT it early twenty six so that's the situation and it was already getting clear at that point that even though these theories look very different that they're connected to each other and Sol Schroeder for instance had already proved that it all the interesting applications like matrix mechanics and waste mechanics you have to say predictions it also become clear that this formalism calls for some sort of probabilistic interpretation right that this is the work by born at board of course later one of the Bill Bell price for what was not clear was OK these theories are related to each other but what is the underlying formalism that connects all these four different theories together and the other thing that was not clear is like what is the general probabilistic interpretation of the formalism of born it only done this in. Very specific case it pollution processes so this is where where late one nine hundred twenty six early one nine hundred twenty seven in the pen of Lee of one another the Rock and your Dom proposed like very similar theories and I'm going to be focusing on the way that your done did this because your dog was Jordan's version was the one that really influenced for most in formulating you know the formalism that we now work with like the Hilbert space for bows so Jordaan is often called like sort of the unsung hero of the development of quantum mechanics and quite a few theory and he mostly has himself to blame for this because like he's the only sort of first rate German theoretician who fell in very deep with the Nazis OK He was a very a to say yes to a supporter of the ideology even though you know lucky Devore helped to be eighty eight eighty shape before black he spent the time in pain and where he where he where they were building rockets but as best as we could tell your dad was writing a textbook it's despicable Haddix it didn't help much with the Rockets Heisenberg who hated the Nazis actually helped him quite a bit by heading up the bomb project but Heisenberg was not a doxie right he was like a very right wing German nationalist but not a Nazi Jordaan really was. So but if it hadn't been for that like your dad were probably be quite famous because like he did the bench a very important contributions to settling some interpretational issues about quantum mechanics and to get like quite a few theory off the ground right to it should i was so shape with the rock but probably the way we do quite a few theory today is closer to what Jordan was doing that what the rock was doing. But as I said the guy only has himself to blame so what was so he publishes the space that annoy you have the good do to quote Mikati like to do foundation of quantum mechanics to Germany to stalk will be so simple that you can understand it if you don't even if you don't know any other if you don't know German and the basic ideas. This it's and I put in some disclaimers here that. So I a doing it talking about your Don absented his atrociously bad notation and I suppress a Glock saw some complications especially something called like the Against to do supplement the supplementary applet dude you know which is best you know when it is best like Drew and best to draw the veil of charity over that production. The other thing I should say is that your dad initially only considered black quantities with continuous spectra and was hoping that the extension to quantities was discrete Specter or mixed continuous discrete Specter was going to be very easy that turned out to be very difficult but OK with DOS to disclaimers he had this idea for a new foundation of quantum mechanics therefore just based on two basic ideas first of all the quantum mechanics this is a theory about it's always a theory about conditional probabilities it Quantum mechanics tells you like you know if you if you have a system prepared such that some quantity B. Big B. has some value little B. What is the probability that some other quantity a hassle value little a bit and so that's the first idea the second idea is that those probabilities are given by the absolute squares of complex probability amplitudes but so. This probability is like you know the amplitude for the probability of finding a given B. you know a dead you know luck of course like we're talking about you know we prepared to be what is the probability that falls like in a small range for four A So this I should say like a the region a through a plus D. A and so so this may sound like a little of familiar but they are all familiar with the please what example of this and these are elected energy eigenfunctions of the time independence Rodier equation so it was the mention right so here you have to have all told and acting all this eigenfunction spits out like the same thing with like the eigenvalue an and probably sick interpretation of this which is actually do or do not to bore but to poly is that. If you if you take the the absolute square this the disc issued a probability of finding the system at some position X. if you know that it is having luck in energy. So this then is an example of this that your dog generalizes And so if you think about this to specific case as you I could function to destroy your equation you would write it like this right it's the probability amplitude of fighting X. given up and that's that's that's it and he just generalize that for a whole bunch of arbitrary quantities but keep in mind that like it only really works if you're talking about quantities with continuous spectrum. I should also say that at this point it had already become clear that you can write way functions configuration space you can write any momentum space you can write it like any space you want but that that people have had to. OK so now so these are the basic ideas of the theory now your Don was very sympathetic to mathematics so he gave like an axiomatic set up of his theory so what he's going to do is introduce like a set of postulates for his probability amplitudes and then provide like a realization of these postulates and so this is described very nicely in a paper by Hilbert for a new mom and lo thought more time about your doubts theory that they're right that they only came out in twenty eight but they wrote of the nineteen twenty seven so they stay explained a strategy it's like what imposes certain physical requirements of these probabilities which are suggested by earlier experience of developments and the satisfaction of which calls for certain relations between the probabilities that's part one then secondly one searches for a simple analytical apparatus it which quantities occur that satisfy these relations Exactly. So now your dog years after the fact remember like an exchange that he had to infest were aired fests like sort of porting out like you know this this this unusual set up and said look you know look if you tell me first what quantities you're going to use which are going to be Lector answer mation major cities that are then going to double as these probability amplitudes rather the other way round that would be a lot easier and so he told your Dot I. Remember this and told it said it is if you that F.S.S. like well since you wrote the paper actually magically that only beans that one has to read back to front so I'm going to follow the presentation of your dog but like you no luck at the end of the day luck these probability amplitudes are going to be identified with transformation matrices which is why this theory has become known as the statistical transformation theory. So the first postulate is that the basic probability amplitudes for position and momentum is given by this heat of the minus I P. Q. over age bar and that's not going to going to prove that for you but it turns out that that luck implies the usual computation relation so you don't have to make that as a separate separate assumption. So good to. The one thing I want to point out about this is that if this is your probability amplitudes as your don't recognize step beads that for a given value of Q. all possible values of P. are actor probable and this is sort of the gist of luck with later hands becomes like to assert the principle and Heisenberg like not coincidentally was heavily influenced by this paper by by your daughter. Now what you are not noticed is that this probability amplitudes satisfies trivially like some these differential equations right so multiplying by P. is the same as minus H. bar over I.D.D. Q. you can see that right here and similarly like multiplied by Q. is the same as minus eight bar over I.D.P. So these things as zero and so we think that that will allow you to start from this probability amplitudes between B. and Q. and then work your way up to probability amplitudes between all sorts of other quantities and so I show you how this works so think of flecked introduced to do quantities A B. that are related to being Q. by like a canonical transformation you know so it's basically think of these as Matrix C's that you're going to write sandwiched between T. and T. T. minus one you get something new say with B. and the idea is that it's dead that will give you luck the probability amplitudes between A and B. and. So as your poured sound like it is it the same with the few that I just quoted from you just get out of the transformations were a daily breath so to tie in the new results with those as closely as possible that was something very bashful for us to try but you see here is that this is before the days of Hilbert space that's your doubt is trying to stretch the classical theory like as far as he can to get a handle on these quantum things right then so it doesn't quite work but will see that it inspires like for blood to replace it by the basket will do what your this tried to do so here is to give you an idea as to how this works and also to give you an idea as to the limitations of this framework is like start with these trivial. Trivial. Equations that we have before sticking a few decent T. by this one right so this is just one I could if if this acting all this is zero adding a T. Here is also going to work and you see here that what you have here over here is a new quantity and he have a new way of put two pts right same thing over here so he thought OK this way we get from the basic amplitude for you to the more general amplitude for a B. hopefully among them like an amplitude for X. and event that which is the solutions of the Schroedinger equation. So now unfortunately and again I'm not going to show you this quickly I'm not going to go through through the calculation idiot rest of top. You actually you can't do this and basically the problem is that these canonical transformations just preserve the spectrum so flashes up for us explain this if you could think he said quickly like so much the better otherwise don't worry about it all you have to trust me on this. So. The point is is that you could if you want to get to a situation but with energy typically the energy is going to have like a discrete part of the part of this. Ector so you will never get there for a luck piece and queues with continuous spectrum right because the spectrum is just preserved and so your god like you know it after he did realize this right away but when he started to like extend his approach to deal with situations with discrete specter he read it to this to this problem so the rock didn't have this probably just like the rock was not as hung up on getting everything from a few postulate he was happy to postulate more equations writes as if you do it that that it did you fly. It so above or only valid so this was the first boss as you can already see that it's problematic the second postulate is rather straightforward it's a symmetry property that the probability amplitudes for be given a is just a complex budget of the probability amplitudes for a given B. and that implies because like he's probably to get the probabilities you square it that the probability of be given a it's the same as the probability of a given B.. So then he asked a third possibly this is actually the most interesting wanted this is what he calls it the Ference of probability for reasons that will become clear in a little bit and so what what's your nonsense here the strange thing about quantum mechanics is that the ordinary rules of probability do not apply to the probabilities themselves but to the probability amplitudes and these ordinary rules are the addition and multiplication rule it probably is the theory right so let F. one F. two be two outcomes with probability amplitudes five one and five two then the multiplication rule says that if those two things are independent at the Apple Apple two for getting F. one F. outcome F. one A and F. two is just the product of these two amplitudes and IF IF IF IF one and if two are mutually exclusive the probability amplitudes for the outcome if one or F. two is going to be to some of these these two amplitudes and you can sort of understand why you would call this the interference of probability theory because now let's look at what is the probability that the probability amplitudes of probability F. water F. two Well that's the square of this year and you see that you're going to get like a probability of F. one the probability of F. two plus a bunch of it appears there are less you probably like point here look up front if you need to look over there so I can look at you would have screamed roughly at same five but you see it here right. OK. Now. So what's what but your time now ask himself it's like if you have a probability for a given B. and for be given see what is the probability of a given C. and he says like the rule there is that this probability amplitudes for A C. is going to be this into Grohl over B. flecked the probability of amplitude of a given be at the probability of amplitude of be given c And so what your dad's claim is that he could derive this expression from these postulates about like the the rules of probability are applying not to the probabilities themselves but to the probability amplitudes now that derivation is shaky but if you look further you see that he doesn't really what really takes over the role of the three postulates are these relations and these relations made up look very familiar to do you doubt but they will like it just a few slides of the days these relational is true today as they were back in your jobs day so he looks at one special case namely when a C. and A are equal to one another and then of course you know what is the probability. Of a given that it's a prime Well you know what you know for sure is that that's going to be zero if a prime were different so they're lucky essentially So he does not use it but this is the point at which the rock introduces the famous the rock delta function OK so your not sort of talks around this but essentially does the same C.. And so as I said like these the postulate da boils down to just have a decent relationships of the. Least of These probability amplitudes now. If you are like thinking like well these these these these postulates look like very strange you're a very good company because like. Polly there's a letter of his' of birth to Polly when he first starts reading your doubt stuff and he says like I could understand your doubts paper the postulates are so intensive all of the FIDE I cannot make heads or tails of them. None the less Heisenberg like freely admits that he heavily relied of these papers by yard on writing to famous paper that he wrote of the uncertainty principle but so so he somehow you know like was able to do. Understand this eventually. So River so now we have like we have like a bunch of relations that these probability amplitudes need to satisfy So the second part of this action about approach is now to identify some mathematical gadgets that extent place the role of these probability amplitudes and satisfies these various conditions that we have put on it and that is going to be done by transformation matrices that are written like this and here are borrowing just your thoughts notation is absolutely atrocious this is the notation from the rock that is of course like it is very reminiscent of the bracket notation of the rock but in fact like you know what the rock is doing this is that he twenty seven he doesn't have Hilbert space he doesn't think of breaking this up bras and gets where it is just one unit that is doing the transformation so this is the transformation matrix to get you from like a way function in the space to a way function in a space and this is just how you write it and so but with that identification of D.C. these things if this if you identified this as the probability amplitudes of a give a B. like all these relations are satisfied and so you could quickly check this what about the first one well this is just that the way from should be space is to transform of the wave function in Q space so disk wanted here is a deeds old the transformation matrix and that is according to your What's the what this basic probability amplitudes should be so that works. Likewise the symmetry property while dept are boils down to like that the in first of this matrix be a like is just the accomplished God You Get So that is to say that you have like you to tear it out of this matrix that to resolve not to be such a natural property in your doubts formalism but he now look sort of limits attention to like things that are used to theory. So that works and then finally like this would look like the hardest one is this relation satisfied Yes it is so here you this I could quickly show you so here you have like the transformation from B. to A right get you for B. day here a you can then write B. as like you know something that is transformed from C. C. to B. but that gets you that you can also write this as directly going from C. to A but you get this comparison of these two equation tells you that a C. is just D. B. over the transformation of B. to A at a transformation the C. to be so this is exactly that could be should that that your post and I hope that your knowledge to stand sort of fish quip like if you had started there you know it would have been much easier to understand like what what this theory is about it so now it may of ninety twenty seven after reading all of this. It produces Hilbert space it a paper called The body should be good no rights as I said the German software heart mathematical foundation. And so you can have like a realization of your doubts postulate using the model but space formalism and what you going to do then is that you can identify these probability amplitudes but just in a products of eigenvectors of her mission operators in Hilbert Space OK And so your dorm allows to be using the delta function and so it's not till one hundred thirty nine that the rock is finally going to split its brackets into bras and heads. Now if you have to side in a fixation that you can see there e quickly that your doubts postulates are satisfied so postulate one has to be this well it's just the overlap of these two vectors is easy to divide this IP Q. over eight so that works. I have this is completely trivial it's just like a basic property of the product and like the final one. The results that that followed by the arrive to dissipate parade day twenty seven which is. The specter of decomposition theory so you could stick a lucky you didn't operate or here and then use the resolution of the units right is as D B can't be bra be right this is just a projection operators would this would be one right as corresponding to the spectral decouples you stick that in and you have to like the results that you meet but that's the Ritz. Beautiful you think done right so so one way to understand like the transition from your done to following month is that well you know like we just replaced like this this identification of probability amplitudes by the so. The direct transformation matrix sees by in a products in a Hilbert space they were off to the races now you can feel that there is a but coming this is not work for minimum bids. So why not. So full of on just thought that this was mathematically ricketty So this is lovely quote This is a few years later it is book but it's the same sort of sentiment it is nineteen twenty seven paper where he says direct method same goes for your art on the stock beat the demands of mathematical rigor in any way not even when it's reduced in a natural and cheap way to the level that is common in theoretical physics. The correct formulation is not just a matter of making the rocks method mathematically precise and explicit but right from the start calls for a different approach related to Hilbert spectral theory of operators. So he's going to go like a very different different routes but now in hindsight in hindsight we can see that what I did on the previous flights you know could be bait mathematically rigorous but that calls for a mathematical developments that were certainly not available at the time so you know you need to get comfortable with with with the direct delta function which dismisses as nonsense so you have to fewer distributions and you have to do with the problem that a lot of these vectors are not actually in Hilbert space so you need something called like Rick Hilbert space but so so these these these developments are well beyond sort of my bath of magical mastery of the theory and I think they're well beyond the mastery of most graduate students but you know like we're reassured by our teachers like you know like you just assumed that you could do this like a you'll never go but that seems to work just fine but before for Norman of course that was not good enough so what did do so look it should so he as I said like you know luck. Twenty seven points out that the reason he doesn't want to do this is that some of these ample to. It's are not in the open space and like the delta function is not like a function at all as far as he's concerned he's right about that of course so what does he do so what he does is he's using the Hilbert space formalism to give if like a mathematically unobjectionable derivation of the central quantity. Of a your dogs theory Dave leaders probability. To think back sort of this arch and scaffolds thing that a bushing so he can now replace like the way you built the expression for Ford that probability using not these probability amplitudes but using projection operators and so all show you quickly how this go so this is a formula that of course is still in use him on a quantum mechanics so rather than writing this probability like that to downright it just a trace of the product. Of these. Projection operators so take as an example to use like you want to buy one and sort of quickly show you that you offer million with this this kind of stuff a B. B. X. and H. right position energy and so now what you get is that you know the debt probability is you know the square absolute square of the sorting away function that can be written as this probability amplitudes we can now write that this just is in a product and this quantity over here we could write a little differently so the projection operator out to exit out to end would be written like that's right and now calculate the trace using again like you know the resolution of unity with some arbitrary discrete orthonormal base of Hilbert Space. You put this in right so this is just take that from here a stick in this this this decomposition of resolution of unity I move things around a little bit and what I see is that I just get like to trace the product. Of these projection operators if that were a little too fast don't worry too much about it the point is that following month to now is a man the math of it a mathematically unobjectionable way get that same formula for the probability that that that your doubles after. OK so. So now. But before long I was not satisfied for wall with this with this particular way of doing things and he writes another paper but shyly cuts to a to show off though this may be more challenging for if you don't speak German sewed so this is like the probability theoretical building. Off right. So and. I should have mentioned like you know this is I put it on the opening slide this is based on work with my collaborator in history of quantum mechanics like Tony Duncan physics at the University of Pittsburgh so we speculate that what happened here is that photo of a got unhappy about that first paper that he wrote it twenty seven after he read. Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle search the paper and before he had read that paper. He essentially explicitly admit Dorsey. Like your God's view of probability theory but so he writes the Says like you know postulate with three is obviously a valid use the addition of multiplication theorems of ordinary probability calculus except that it disguised to hold for the amplitudes rather than for the probabilities themselves but so he says this completely approvingly in this paper he writes all your doubts theory with Hilbert and north and it is open the box should be good to he again writes without comfort a comment to multiple patient loft probabilities does not hold what does hold it's a weaker law corresponding to your doubts combining the probability amplitudes now after he is read Heisenberg he changes his tune and Heisenberg like. Really protests against your dogs use of probability theory saying look you know the rule the basic rules of probability theory are not dependent on physics you know they are what they are and even quantum mechanics is not going to change them so it doesn't make a lot of sense to introduce these new rules of probability that apply to these two days to be templates and follow him on a Greece with with this and so so he writes now in this new paper he says the relation to the ordinary probability calculus was not sufficiently clarified the basic fully to the full it if its basic rules were. Sufficiently stressed that So he's now back to the you know no we're not going to best with the basic rules of probability theory we're going to stick to those and that's why you know this paper is called like probability theoretical instruction because he's now going to construct you know a century out of nothing you know this whole new edifice and S.. So the so does the strategy changed a little bit right what he did in that first paper as I showed you very quickly was to rewrite Jordan's expression for these probabilities in terms of less objectionable Bassa batiks So instead of using probability amplitudes he was writing it in terms of projection operators what he's doing now is is is is not like rewriting it but just derives from scratch this this this this quantity death that your doubt introduces And he's doing that by introducing density OPERATOR So this is the paper it which for the very first time the notion of a density operator is introduced it is really a brilliant paper Buffalo Bill. And so like metaphorically speaking so he is now build again another scaffold to prevent like you know the original arch even supported by its first scaffold from black collapse. And as luck would have it followed like you know it was this at this point is all of twenty four you know look it's really amazing what these people were doing at a very young age. He has come to know one of the greats probability theory namely we should for this and so for me says like you know it's one of the guys like the freak with this the pro-choice to probability theory and so he says like they don't have to defied even what it means to talk about probabilities what you need to do is talk about all solvable So if LIKE IT systems and then you pick like members of that all solvable and you check for the property that you're interested in OK you want to know what is the probability that this flower is red you know half your half your flower speak to tell me what percentage of that all solvable has red flowers so follow it it's going to do the same sort of thing but it's doing this within the framework of Hilbert Space. So so so so he doubt it's going to take the basic open space formalism and it's going to fall is try and find an expression for Dex picked a should value so and so this is what I've indicated here some function Big E. F. So this is the form of that function needs to be the target and this is really like it amazing piece for Lloyd's work so the two of the two assumptions that he makes is that that function is linear that if you have lots of quantity that is represented by. OPERATOR A plus B. to operate a B. etc that the expectation value is that expectation of a beta explication of B.. This this this assumption would come in for a lot of criticism later on because it's also to some sure that he makes like it is famous no had variable proofs a quantum mechanics but it is particular causes before perfectly fine and the other one is that positive definite this that if the value of A is always greater than one of the dead the expectation value is always greater or greater Grey is always greater than. Or equal to zero dead the expectation value of A is greater dead or equal to zero it seems like you know these are very and Oculus assumptions but it turns out that this uniquely determines that function and that function is going to be given by a density operator types the quantity of interest and if you have a uniform. Where you prepare every system in the same state he can he can proof that then that case the. Density operator is just a projection OPERATOR It's just that. So in this paper like you know like all the sides he has also luck for the first time introducing the difference between a pure state and a big stage right because so this is a pure state if it's a big state but you know you would have liked at all solvable where you have a system prepared like the different states. And so now what you could do is like if you if you work out what this expression is. You know show you can evaluate the trace shuffle this around use like I said again. The resolution of beauty so this is one so you see that you just get your familiar expression for expectation values out again but now football has succeeded it deriving is from almost nothing right from the basic basic agreed it's Hilbert space at two very innocuous looking assumptions but so this is deadlock sort of. Where he leaves it to sing the praises of this of this of this paper a little bit more that it would be there would be one more paper it so this is become the oldest of the twenty seven trilogy the final papers about quantum statistical mechanics I don't I will talk about this but in this in this in this first two papers follow but also all possible is proving the equivalence of these four versions of quantum mechanics and he's basically Buckley's that even claiming a great insight here he sounds kind of tired say like well if only these physicists were paying a little bit of attention to what we'd best imitation they would know that matrix mechanics is just like a theory about square solvable. Sequences and that wave mechanics is a theory about square it will functions and those things are isomorphic and those are two instantiations of something more general that I'm going to call the Hilbert space so right so it only sort of they knew about like you know the theories of partial fall and reach Fisher which at this point are old but they would have they would have noticed but now you know like I out of the goodness of my heart as mathematicians of good to help out these poor physicists and point out these obvious things to them. OK now the sort of paper that Tony and I wrote is called Never mind your piece and Q.'s were never is it parentheses So you're Don since he doesn't have Hilbert Space. This is very much like my niggaz piece accuse which is all this business about canonical transformations followed by realizes that you don't need any of that right you just need to do Hilbert space right and then you could do everything your dad could do a dead so. The follow ups of A should that I want to make is like something that he calls to set to boom of the state vector and I won't reach you the whole the whole quote but this is the essential the first mention that I'm aware off of the famous measurement problem but so he says like Look sometimes you know you you have a state that you know like you get your guarantee to get a certain outcome but many times you have a stated that it's a probabilistic issue what outcome you're going to get at the state in the process will be sent to demolished the notion of chip to about the job it is very much you know like the picture that I had but the very beginning of like you know it's a place blown to smithereens. Conclusions but so this was a quick tour of how we get to Hilbert Space. So in terms of my better for how did we get there right so one possibility but one metaphorical way of telling the story is that. Turned your dogs arch into a scaffold for his old arch but. The arch that being the Hilbert space formalism so this would be like you know your down at the bottom and four more model top but you can also tell a differently which is a suite you don't have sort of switch back and forth between these two ways of saying it you can also take a photo of a building a scaffold to prevent the arch of your dog from collapsing so it would still have your down on top and for law about building ever better scaffolding to support that arch off of your doubts and so you may think that you know we're. I think of this metaphor it up be very upset that I can't pick between these two cases but in fact I don't mind this said So look I think that the ambiguity here sort of points to deliberate patience of the better for Ed sort of advice now to come up with like a better way to get beyond dispute be a paradigm shift story tell stories like this but using like terminology that is not is a big US arch and scaffolds right to be scuffles I think is a sort of nice picture to get the to get the basic idea across but to really work on this you need a saying to you need a better sort of conceptual tools to get this if it is conceptual tools like I'll be happy to talk about this in. Q. and A but for now just want to throw it out is that you can borrow ideas from evolutionary biology and then not so much like ideas from population genetics dockets but like theories about what is now called evil Divo where you look at the good strayed sport of the development of species that you know come from the way to terminate right so it's not like silly dislike denying that natural selection is to suggest changes species but you that's only telling a part of the story and other part of the story is that you know you can't though the actual selection is going to turn like an elephant into a giraffe you need to know like you know what are the limits that I could change things and these limits what you change things to be that's sort of the interesting part in a story about like how you develop a theoretical. How you develop like theories insides and so this is be this getting some traction in the history of philosophy aside societies will end with this guy like Bill lives that from you for Chicago who has you know piety at this approach and so the paper that I've written about this will come out in a volume that he edited with my colleague a love philosopher of science that you. The Minnesota but beyond to me. Is not the internet me but it's the Beeb from like Dawkins like the selfish gene right where now you do Beebs are for culture what genes are for species right so it's beyond to be doing this sort of evil Divo style stuff development of structure in a cultural evolution so by story is sort of part of this broader effort to come up with a way to characterize cultural evolution including the evolution of scientific theories helping ourselves to bottom insights from like evolutionary biology thank you for. The. Way. On. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah yeah. OK thank you thank you very much for that question so the first one. So so yeah I totally agree if you that that could be like the cool you defense right now if I only told you a lot one of my case studies I've done another one that is about like how do we get from the old quantum theory to bomb the quantum mechanics right so Dalek it's a little more interesting if that's not a paradigm shift what is right to be there you go from make the dramatic from describing things like. Classical face space with a few conditions slept on it right they say they recognize this a going to work to describing something like with matrices way functions what have you and it turns out that that story too as cooled like in his historical work would readily admit it is not a batter of like you know OK somebody this is now dead we need like a DO idea you know like that's now the kernel of the know it's again like a very much like a continuous development and so did I mean I can't block substantiated right now but I can give you like a very sort of nice. You know sort of hints that this that this metaphor is going to work because remember like the title of the Heisenberg paper that introduces matrix mechanics is called going to paper which is to durable for lack reinterpreting So what this theory does want to be. What makes mechanics does is not to reject classical mechanics to repeal classical mechanics but to reinterpret it right so what you have is like all the all the relations of classical mechanics like proceed exactly the way they were before remember that quote from the rock right. But the fundamental changes is that out all the terms like it period it are now. She's right so again it's a very sort of continuous that can be described very nicely in this arch scaffold metaphor where the disk Ace It's like you know you have to scuttle this big built dispersion theory and then what what what what essentially what Heisenberg does is to show well you know what we could do for dispersion theory we could do physics in general and they you're off to the races so that's the first question the second question I also like very much so as I said like you know like the this particular example of my arch and scaffolds is very best and as an aside as I indicated like I like it because it shows sort of the the limitations of the better for like I have a few very clear examples the one Heisenberg is very clean the one of relativity is are the world so relativity even cleaner this is a very messy one and part of it is that it's unclear whether the scaffold ever gets taken down right and so I would say that's even if it goes even further would you say select my picture is you have like wave mechanics matrix mechanics of top of that you built to direct your transformation theory of top of that you built like the full mobile theory but it was a version of the better for now all of that is still with us right so so yes you are completely agreed if you're not a philosopher or a quantum mechanics you typically have very little use for luck for you're perfectly happy to use Jews you sort of the back to badly fixed up version of the direct transformation theory which the way we teach it through our grassroots day is kind of a big A for boy but at the rock when you read the rock you don't really know you don't really realize But the guy originally was to talk about the Hilbert space at all you just like factor that in right and they you trust that this can be bad sabbatical be done well big There you have your graduate course quantum mechanics at the undergraduate level right you don't even care about that right you go straight back to the waste mechanics right and so like you introduce people to the way functions have what have you write. And it's only later that you that you say you know by the way like the way functions are just one particular instantiation of Hilbert space but so even like you know so this is often very fascinating that almost a century later that you still see clear Red Sea the way we teach used the theory that are just an artifact of how this theory luck a bit to be you know and so that though in this case like the the scaffold is NOT TAKE IT DOWN AT ALL people are very very happy to live in parts of the building you know that I just dismissed the scaffolding. Yeah OK. OK now so I hope I've made it very clear that I'm a great admirer of these two papers. For more a minute if like if I DID YOU KNOW THAT is just like indicative of my all my own limitations in mathematics OK. OK. I've heard of her death but thank thank you for that so. So so a part like you know like I'd like to talk about this. You know about this about this development precisely because I admired these paper so much so if you so like you know I gave you I made some disparaging comments about like this does your papers. But so your dad had a few good ideas right that he had so so and without those I.D.'s you know like for a lot of stuff would not have gotten off the ground but at the by your done our holy mess OK like I mean I was telling somebody earlier today that there are literally equations in that paper where X. on the left hand side an X. on the right hand side completely different things and where this whole section said that paper that a complete nonsense and that our best sort of it Dort now compared to that like these two papers that have been talking about by far more of them are like masterpieces where he's there's not a step wrong and so the only reason that it takes from one thousand nine hundred ninety twenty seven to nine hundred thirty two before he publishes the book rights of these three papers are the backbone of his book at thirty two is that he wants to nail shot a few mathematical details so he particularly like you know to proof the two they will down to proof the spectral theory for about operators but so so I've I read through this like in Iraq a sort of cavalier fashion. To make the point that the way that this is being used in physics now right is that you know like we don't actually be like. That's my impression we don't actually worry about these mathematical niceties at all right we just treat this like as a piece of literal to read it might as well be lucky to find out dimensions and you devil war right and so. I've. Since I'm not a mathematician I can't really judge as to the how important like. Contributions. Compared to these countries about Rick Hilbert space at the theory of distributions but I take your point that you know the latter two are sort of minor corrections to what or minor additions to what four Lojban himself put in play but. Some of the stuff that I did mention like this is the introduction. Like the notion of density operators which I think is that old that if it were me like this is this I would teach beginning students that's how you do quantum mechanics with density operators the introduces the difference between like big states. And pure States he he is the water who not sure ot or S. It's often said to prove the equivalence of matrix mechanics and wave mechanics by just like porting to that boy you could the fact that little L. to a big L. to R. so morphic I mean there's a tremendous amount of work that is being done in this in this paper while Johnny Football is all of twenty four years old. Yes. Yeah as far as I'm concerned yes it was a story. Yes but they haven't read it but I do think that the rock comes out a little earlier dead. For more and more right the rocks textbooks in one thousand nine hundred thirty. But the way but if you think about it so so did that go through many editions but the way that you read the textbook write whatever you see the like you know like. Brackets like you just read that there's a need a product of Hilbert space that is not the rocks idea right the rock knew nothing about Hilbert space that is that is for moment so what I think what you're teaching your your graduate students like in their first year is really sort of like a combination of the rock and followed where you don't really care all that much about like you know what's coming your way after all you're not teaching history but who do we want and so like a whole top of his course like for Norman is also the one who introduces the measurement problem and. In a way puts his finger on the you know the one big it's a potential problem right that still has not been solved right in a way that it's much much more. Pointed than any of the other characters in this this in this story. So if I decide I really so the. A lot of for the moment scholars. They have to be a typically very good mathematicians so they consider all of this like very elementary and so they don't spend they don't spend the time talking about this and this is a shame because like you know DIA because of that these twenty seven papers don't get like a lot of attention the only thing that gets attention is the one hundred thirty two book and so I really think it would be a would be great and I'm hoping to do this like one of these days to translate these these twenty seven paper said just make them available to a broader audience because they're really quite beautiful yeah yeah yeah we're. Here.