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>> This is a living history interview with gay Nicholas horn live widow of earth in Love Jr conducted by Marilyn Summers June 14th the year 2000 we are at her home in Atlanta Georgia and the subject of our interview is her life Erskine's life and her experiences with Georgia Tech and in general what have pleasure it is to be here with you today in your lovely space and to learn about you and about your life has been thank you you have a welcome thank you so much and stories are always best when they serve the beginning so tell us where you all begin where you began We'll start with you Well I was born.

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That's usually up to Sharon Yes again I was born in Greenville North Carolina on June 16th 1909. I grew up in a small town near Greenville winnable North Carolina I actually didn't drop in winnable I grew up on a farm with the back farm about 3 miles outside winnable North Carolina where I attended grammar school basketball and graduated in night 247 so you grew your whole life you lived on a farm but your father was the farm master Father of us at the back farm and he had grown up and said he had he was one of 9 children one die did the age of 12 who did not live to adulthood but the others had 6 sisters and a brother and so the 8 of them grew up within probably 30 miles of each other all on farms they were all farmers only it used to be.

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One of the families didn't move very far apart my grandfather as I had been told did not read or write but he was a very successful businessman business farmer and his sons are his 2 sons became very successful as business was at the same farm being cast down as arms and at my grandfather's death they were all given their the inheritance so to speak and each of them had their own farms and then of course this as they progress they acquired other farms for my father.

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Did the same thing he acquired other farms and his death each of his 4 girls was given. If a bus were given a farm so I still own a farm in North Carolina and. Along with a partial they're both girls in my family and I think my father always really wanted a boy but he often said he filled up his house girl trying to get a boy but he was a very very good good man good farm a good business man a well respected your mother was a far right actually my mother grew up in south Georgia she did.

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Down and southwest corner of Georgia Addison little town near Fort gains and it's in that area Blakely How did they discovery Well that's a good story to. Bring to you she went to West Wing college and she graduated with a teacher's degree. Jobs were very hard to find that's in 1924 jobs a villa hard to find so she applied to a teacher agency and they are the only thing they came up with was off a little a job teaching English in a high school in Little North Carolina and my grandfather said while it might be good for her health to go up north so she she thought is the way to spot by North is the last Carolina in the brigade that never came back met my daddy and they were married they are in 1905.

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And my oldest sister was born in 1907 and I'll just. Every time you. Got to stay in the same place your home grown your list say until I went off to college so you met lots of ideas you met there were part of your life. And our family was very close we were there were 21 grandchildren in my generation and we were always together so when I grew up as part of a big family and we've had big family reunions and and still try to get together we've had service as we've all grown up men we have children and grandchildren and 5 years ago we had another family reunion and had about 185 people that came back again and all night to enough our 21 generation.

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21 a generation or 19 of us was I was less than a lot of our children and grandchildren so that with the things I did great to know you were going to college after that was Mother mother was a college graduate daddy went to n.c. state for all of while he was a.

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He was a farmer he grew up on a farm and North Carolina State then was called agricultural college and when he went there for a little while he said their thing they tried to take in the already new so he went back again will get some work done at the end so I think you know his girl Yes and so I had to choose working out a sister.

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And the 2nd and I have 2 young sisters but the oldest one for some reason decided she won't be a doctor so she and she was good in chemistry and high school so she decided to go to do the university in her arms which went too far away so I have to she started to do I want to do it and then another sister went to Salem college because she was very musical My mother was very musical mother could play the piano in the things she could hear she could play and she was told that was a it was a real gift and she was a great entertainer but what was your interest in college which we was.

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Extra. I was an English major and I got a teacher certificate so I could teach but I didn't never get rid of or teach but the thing I enjoyed most probably you know of than studies was I enjoyed the music and theater and we had a good strong theater group and I was in so for 5 productions during those 4 years I was staying and what I meant for you was always looked at sooner but you know we had a great time and we bonded especially and then I sang in the inn to do Chapel Choir for 4 years perfectly.

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Well you know I guess so in a choir of the year all my life until last year I'd say it's time to retire the wonderful That's what. So then after I graduate from **** I decided. I would like to do something other than teach so. A man from Atlanta who worked for riches he was in the personnel department in the training department of the personnel department Richardson His name was the deputy card will that was his name and he came to interview students who were interested in a merchandising career so he came to do you and if you did and.

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I was accepted into their program and there were 3 or 4 of my friends who also liked that so we all came to Atlanta to get a house that's I got you know. And we lived together that had a great time and worked and riches paid very little I mean we could harness sustain us as my my father would take pity on me every now and then simulate check a little money in the bank he never let me get it go hungry but it was kind of a fun thing we had I tell you what did you live it was actually I live on 14th Street right right middle right in midtown in a rooming house with 2 ladies who looked after us like we were their children and they would feed us breakfast and then we had there was a boarding house down the street that we could eat dinner in for that $0.75 for dinner and of course there was no calling it square there was a movie theater in the grocery store nearby and after about a year and a half they are.

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So full of us decided to rent an apartment on 28th street us last year yes but. In a room. So we moved to. This apartment with 2 friends 2820 and 23 with that yes and it's still there that apartment building it was up. I think like you Ted for apartments it was 22 apartments upstairs downstairs very small so like you were really sophisticated Yes it is not just.

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So we shared the expenses and shared the what was it like and I like it that it was a small town it was I guess around the time we came in maybe in 500 people I mean 500000 people in Atlanta and it was big thing green Yeah. There's a big city so I actually I had a choice I could have gone there were 3 places I could have gone to do merchandising one was in Richmond at Paul Hammond's had a training program and Altman's in New York at a training program and my day said Boyle it was too far to go to New York or Richmond psychic and Atlanta because that much lived here and he felt safe with that was fired by me that's right because I was safe if I had an uncle here that actually it wasn't just a really nice safe community it was I mean we could walk the streets at night we could there was remember the art theater down on 14th Street.

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Market which was killed right in front of that so there was just such a way that certain children and and that's how we met the fox the Los theater the paramount. And there are probably a lot of technical really around it that they were there for but we never did get into the tech scene we with we were graduate so we weren't going to mature we would to all for the Take a look but there was an Emory graduate students that we got to know and.

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So I don't it was a good line it was it was fun and young people then kind of gravitated toward each other in the same things and there and we that's how we met each other at the river and what effect of the war happened on that. There were a lot of people coming in a lot of been coming back from the war but that they had actually already comes out of that it was I think they did one by the time I can't leave.

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But they well back in her college go through 3 and we met people through other people and my roommate met him through a boy that she was young man that she was dating and he was Erskine's best for a and then his name was Lee Robbins and I think Lee is still in Atlanta I don't see them much but the inner skin we're good friends and.

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That really we just ran around saying cry Ok and he gave it to France you dated my roommate he dated one of my best friends too who worked at Rich's with me and we just ran around the same crowd and then family we started dating but that was after we'd known each other for almost 3 years really interesting so you took your time you met probably about $952.00 and we married in 1954 so what may be different but the casual dating in the beginning for me because I knew him as a friend 1st.

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I knew him and we were just good friends 1st kind of a man he was very dependable he was very. Friendly he was very he was a hard worker you knew that I knew that right right then he was working for Westinghouse corporation at that time on the north side.

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We just don't also drive I think and he worked on our side drive in the Westinghouse business do you remember taking him to meet your dad yes but that was after we were engaged in cake and so pretty like I'm paraphrasing but actually my mother had bedding mother came to visit me occasionally and she was she started with a nice young man so they knew him beforehand they were pleased.

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So that it was dependable you said secure that they will find nice family. He was so religious that was that was very important although he's Presbyterian and I grew up a Baptist but he will change the direction we're back we've managed it well so it was easier for me to change the Presbyterian that was in him to become a Baptist at the time that you considered marry him were you aware of his affiliation with tech and how much that was going to be a part of your life I knew that he loved Georgia Tech and that at one point he wanted to stay at tick and work after you graduated and I think Griffin was the one who said our skin it's time for you to move on you've been.

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Like. Yeah if you just recklessly Dolphy why literalize he had. Already done everything that was to do it take you've been. In he'd been editor of the Annual and he had been the manager of the baseball team and then played baseball but he was a manager of the team and he does want to stay and work station but the groups are Seems time for you to move on so that's when I went to work for Westinghouse and spent 6 months in Pittsburgh and on training program for I came back to my.

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Skating but that was before I knew when he was already back in Atlanta working 154 years we married in the in the Presbyterian Church No we actually went back to North Carolina and married in the Baptist church in. North Carolina which family also family his friends came to be in his wedding he had cousins 2 cousins he was an only child.

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His parents so he but he had 2. Boys he married into one big family Yeah and then had a big family. For he had to provide to 1st cousin so he grew up with the like they were his brothers the country he grew up in Greenwood South Carolina also really yes he hit much his parents were divorced when he was about 8 so he grew up with.

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Difficult circumstances but he grew up with his mother and his aunt and his grandmother in a house home in Greenwood or he had concerns. About a girl. Out of a truck with so I so I have to. So after he came back he active in college and he stayed in Atlanta and he never went back to live in Greenwood but his mother it pretty hard to go back to but his father lived in Atlanta so that was he was in the white Southern billfold while and then he was an insurance business he started the insurance business and so on he was a good bit at what insurance is right but I think of the stories about Mr Lott Sr He was a little man was any you will get your kind of yeah he has about 7 or 8 very high energy yes he got round to it was a good salesman right there in fact he actually.

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As I said he lived to go down in south Georgia somewhere with but he was with Southern belle and then when he came back to Atlanta started insurance business he traveled and then after school started print back he traveled with the person some time and he had his own customers when when Dixie was one of his customers so you know time to time folks do mention him.

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So there. Really knew a lot of people that it were. His How did you all cope with the idea. I was going it always wanted to have his own business I mean I've even from the time he was a child he he worked hard he had someone jobs you were down the construction companies in then he carried 2 paper routes and he worked in a drug store and he'd worked a lot of different people but he always wanted to help.

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So he will have you can look. But well actually was through his dad who knew a man who was in. The road pretty interesting that them. Who was had a foods business in Atlanta. Business called Famous foods and he wanted to start a little packaging concerned to package them a pork pork ranch fried pork ranch and he wanted to do his own packaging so he had Erskin to start his packaging business to package the support grant and that was.

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So Earth can actually start his business and after work for him for about 3 years he decided that he could and I can do this for the cell and it was plenty of territory for another one to come right there was then. The difficult part was when you start to print back was it.

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The only packing material with cellophane they would know plastics it was paper or cellophane and all those are some of the companies that made cellophane like of women in this go and do part their cellophane was on allocation to other companies because of a 0 shortage so you had a hard time getting had a hard time getting materials and it was only through I think we've mentioned that John Roselle who was his friend Westinghouse.

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And a man named Frank Maurice who was with the Biscoe. It was actually Frank Morris who was with this guy who actually was able to get allocation with this because that's what you have to do to get contracts for Father curiosity and brain material to a site and actually fabric.

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Doing it right was actually creating packages to put this isn't right but from the big from the very beginning we were not able to do anything he left the company he was with in September of 56 and. Ordered a quick buck which was a printing press and bag machines he bought a bag machine from colonial stores which was a 2nd hand bag machine and I think you paid $500.00 for it and set it up in little our basement room out and saying Just bring a little humble because a humble beginnings and he started his business with a one bag machine 118 year old boy just 1st employed and they just made cellophane bags.

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And they actually printed the image they wanted to print on the back not at that point and after that it was like us we had all we could do was make bags until the next July I think when we finally were able to get a printing press and then you could print them with a print but then you had to find somebody to sell the bags you've made to work well you know in fact 1st yeah how many they had to make everything was custom made by the customers were we would sell our product where did the name come from.

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He just started up he just started and I remember being a little bit perturbed with him because he didn't give me an input. You don't acknowledge I don't know he did it while I was this to my. My parents over Labor Day. And he didn't have a name u.k. didn't have a name and I think I had a name like that you didn't ask me but it was print that it's a pretty slick name if you don't know where it's that's right and it was very little printed packaging will make it so and we don't make them we don't make the bags for the customer we might roll stop and the customer.

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As they produce the product is automatically filled in the bag is how we'll things have changed right things have changed that's the way it was so what kind of. Tell me how long did we stay in this little room in Sandy Springs How much did it take to turn 6 well that was from September of 56 till probably July of 57.

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The room would would only accommodate this small well. Bag machine which is located in the lobby of our building print pack on Wendell drive but after the printing press was deliberate and set up into labs to serve and then we moved to another location off of arm on Plymouth Avenue off of Marietta Boulevard and we stayed there that was the 1st that was a 1st expansion and didn't get more than the 2 year old boy it took a few more people after that but he was the 1st one and he stayed with us until about 1980 I think you retired at 50 wow and he mysteriously day for 32 years and only reached a level that was after skin dad and that really upset about I think losing our skin because they've been so close to so long but it's all.

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His hope is is life been but here he really said the reason he quipped the scars he was tired of driving the 50 mile round trip from Canton Georgia every day he never moved into Atlanta he lived in Canton Georgia and he went back and forth every day for 32 years and he did so the fence was actually moved and at that point we said we had not only one bag machine we had all the bag machines and we were able some of our customers did want to make the bags but most of them from that point became customers that we sent them Rover stock and they made their own bags small companies like candy companies would want to do the bags problem and then make him in the bag so they didn't have to.

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Keep saying we from the beginning. Well I say we because I was parked outside of it maybe probably by nature put out a financial partner as well as a very important a supportive partner and at that time we will produce all and one of the stories the 18 year old whose name was John like detail was.

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When they would go out to sell the bear. Legs sometimes they would the they would be stuck together where the heat heat Seal had made them stick so they would go through take those out and bring them home and here in our skin and I would sit to kitchen table with a knife and open up separate them and put them back in and go resell them.

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So so I did help families again. When did you start. Well. We started Family proof pretty soon Dennis we were married and in 54 they were 54 Dennis was born in August of 55. And. We want to start the I want to get your 1st record your dad his name from my dad and her she was nice enough to say.

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That we didn't they didn't have any sons to be named for and for some things but you know. When I was your dad Israel had us he was very happy finally had finally had it in it's not a doing it but it it's you know what it's so and then the 2nd son Jimmy I was expecting Jimmy at the time he left the other company and started print that Dennis Jimmy was born in December of $56.00 which is after print back was about 3 months old and then from then on Carolyn was born in 1005th and.

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Keats in 1961 and Bill in 1962 and then we had a nice little holiday told David was born in 1971 we had a 9 year shot that's right and David used to say that he was an only child he told his teachers he was an only child until they got out that you had sisters assistants and brothers he said I do but I'm the only child.

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I don't like that he was here. But you really are here. So I was really I was just a mother but I was in by. The much I was the mother but. I guess it was I was always involved in decisions made decisions and. I was in on all the discussions and anything that was really important Erskin told me about I mean I didn't do date have a day to day work you know the books are you know it's a pretty much nowhere story so you see you saw this company grow I've seen it grow from you know from the right again.

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With courage in. Doing what had to be done and I'm sure making made sacrifices for it well we weren't making a whole lot of money at that time the sacrifice $135.00 a week with 2 children was not a big salary but as a company crew person was able to increase his own salary and.

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Did you ever have any doubts of the ever wavered you know being you know never had any We never looked back was what he was supposed to but if those doing one of his. Biggest supporters was his lawyer Philip Alston who was son was the general partner of the Austin which is now the Alpha and Byrd firm but he was just his 1st lawyer and let him know that he was going to stand firm All right he was always with him and he was a wonderful man and was just a great friend and so did you find yourself moving to different parts of the land is your family or.

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Actually we lived almost in a road. A little house there from $105.00 to $961.00 and at the time I had we had 4 children and houses 3 bedrooms so we found many to build another house some places far throwed and we lived there until David was born in 975 we moved in 1000 sent that said we've been in this house since 975 Ok so these are.

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You know 25 years right here we have the part we're sitting in a is a is a 10 year dish and we are maybe I had to dispense 10 years ago. Was a good place to raise children were you happy kid was a different way than you were raised it were there was it good it was a good thing my children.

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To where we we were members of Trinity Preston church we had been members it Peachtree Road Christian church until we moved to Moore's mill and Trinity was a fairly new church so we started going there for church and. Then after that. Did use of the children they went to Trinity for nursery school and Jenna Carney and then we since in developing the Westminster from kindergarten to to top grade.

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In fact that wasn't true in all 6 numbers and if it went to Georgia Tech no one of them was actually registered and had a rain. Bill and it just didn't happen well it was I don't know where you remember the old. Tech would dorm of on tech would drive and we used to park behind there for football games and the it was not a pleasant location it was the latter end of it that was that right or the end and I think after Bill was assigned to that dome He said he thought he'd rather go to do.

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That so I'm going to do that Elvis went to Princeton which is not shabby now. But Erskine was never never had and he was. I think by the time they had been through school through plan and they decided it was time to move was to go away go away get out of.

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Him for youngsters that's good for them to preach Hope Scholarship is the way to go I think that's changed. So we've had a long career with West mentioned in a started there in kindergarten in 1900 to one. We've had somebody there ever since and amazing when the. When one of them graduated I guess when Carolyn graduated David started disco that year so he went on through school when he graduated oldest grandchild started so it can start this way that without a break he's a lovely always a lover wasn't.

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Like you've been. Lucky for us you from the beginning if you establish yourself in Atlantis damage stuff and have always been very generous to the community is there something your parents raised you to do or something you interest in together came to me every every charitable cause every community cause or research because somehow really.

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Where did that sense of altruism I think it was inborn with which both of us our skins mother was probably the one almost the fire out. Persons I've ever known and it's father too but I'm his mother was so in the school system she was in the school room with system in in Greenwood and whenever she brought a paycheck 10 percent of it went into a little box that she put forth for her to know it was the time it was such a thing she tired of everything she had and our skin grew up that way so that and it was all there was was.

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Taught Sunday school for 19 years. And so the idea of becoming involved in giving I went there for both of you to write and my mother always. Whatever her grocery money she would tie their grocery money and so you know from from the fact that he didn't have a regular income being a farmer and that was not what a good way for him to be able to trust a mother to care that one doesn't think of farmers as being philanthropists or out to kind of people because they really do live from the land there is very very precarious and so you know when doesn't think of that but my mother managed to do a little and she got the seeds planted in your mind right and so I think it's just kind of interesting as I always felt that Georgia Tech particularly gave him more than he could ever pay me just to tell you Maizie that a school could do something that would do you think.

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About I think you were so grateful to be able to go to college and it didn't cost very much then was he a good student he was a very good student and you know he did a good stead ragas you know he was able to maximize the experience and he and he worked every summer in order to help pay its expenses.

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At Georgia Tech and we felt that he needed to give back so it's a it's an amazing phenomenon to be there that it's more than just experience and only 4 years people 5 years 3 and a half I think 1st going from really he he was he started when he was 16 that's an amazing thing to be able to counter it in a faster time but something happens to them.

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That affects them so so deeply Well they meet other people and they get involved and I you know the story of how the the roll call started the annual rolls cup. And you'll find this Just 1000 club police to Westbrook was was one of the early work of the goal givers Yeah whether it started I think that the 1000 club started with.

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Pollitt who and her skin and Alvin 1st heat said all right if you give a $1000.00 I'll give $1000.00 and that started in the south in class which culminates in the president every year with that's right you know that's what it was we. Went. To see he still felt a great responsibility to give back to it so he really didn't notice the responsibility and he was willing not only to put his own money into it but his time his name gives a great leader Iceni wanted to do what he did yes he's really started very young working with some of the organizations in Atlanta he started with the old.

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Community Chest before before you guys were and then he but then he was a president of the United Way and then he was chairman of the United Way campaign and after that then that's when he got involved with the Georgia Tech campaign the big the capital can do this and they feel 100 years version in fact he was he was a very strong proponent for it was willing to take the leadership.

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Then Charlie ates was able to pick up the the plan didn't carry it through fear even greater heights horrible thing happened you know he'd never been so you were not here for that certainly wasn't. He was very you know he didn't smoke he didn't drink I'd be up glass of wine occasionally which you must be good for that's right now they say.

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Well you this way he really history you had a strong family history of early heart disease had 3 uncles who had heart disease in the fifty's. And his father died at 63 he was 63164. When he died. But that it was that he was because he was proof of what actually was not overweight and it is my number.

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I think it's in the back of his. I did I do because I mean he was always very conscious of what he ate. So he did take that he took very good care of itself but he was he couldn't change to the genetics and it worked but it did it come to find it was a hard situation it was just a preprogramed.

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And how did you deal with. One day to the reluctant one day at a time lots of friends lots of support from lots of people. It's a storm a day by day. Another day by day but because of the abruptness of what happened I know the institute reeled from it.

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I can't even begin to imagine how that filters down to the family that I mean to Sion goes in to well that helps so much so that the Georgia Tech can Trinity Church and all of the United Way and all the things you've been involved with were so supportive of every of the fan active.

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As they say as you so you shall reap so there was a graphic example and they did and and the children. They felt so responsible for me. Maybe they didn't grave they didn't have time to grieve because as much as I did so because so Guy b.s.e. in a way it molded them together at the time that you lost it where they are really involved in the company Dennis was Doug is just one he had been to.

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He had worked in Wilmington Delaware as a salesman for 5 years and then went to graduate school at Harvard and had been back in Atlanta for about 2 years working in marketing here. So he was some he was the only one who had really actually worked it protect except for some odd jobs that you're afforded far and wide at the time saying this is going to stay in my family is going to be multigenerational were not.

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Going under you were mowing around you know I don't buy that radishes. So did you know something so I did ask and I couldn't afford it I couldn't afford to see it sold are you didn't want it to be got going to go away you believed in the company had potential and we had so many paid good people knew you were going to say that so many good ideas last ability that you felt towards all those people well and they were there.

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They failed to responsibility keep the business going and they are the reason that you were able that we were able to nobody left nobody nobody left all the the managers were still in there working just as hard as I did you gradually bring in more of your sons one analyst at the time to Stennis was over said the only one who'd been in the business he was kind of a logical.

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Person to pull pull him out together and then says he's. A proud moment children and I was very placed in but didn't say able to rally the troops and keep them all literally right back literally bring everything and then later Keith was I guess Keith was the 2nd one to come and he wanted to he had wanted to be in the business but it's not found a place for him and I found the right spot for him.

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You know new project that was. Being started so he came in there had been with coal by a guy he'd been doing a prices for 4 for 5 years 4 years I think so he wanted in so he came in to say older brother alone had died and Jimmy was able to come in to because he had been with.

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Robinson Humphrey in corporate development and business development and that was his expertise so each one with able to bring his own strength into the business so I knew well I did you were going to take that well I decided that if I wanted to have a place that one can be a day to day operation but being chairman of the board I could at least be anchored in control of all law to make sure it stayed.

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And made sure it stays the principles was the risk and said that's right in a way it's kind of your Morial to him it. Was not I don't know you've maintained that it's the business itself I think it might have a splash in the corporate world you've been named Alys Honor's Well that's just business we're running out year in the truck and huge responsibility for huge huge role model roles for you well after your feel it's probably more that than it is actual work responsibility my children are the ones who really run the business I mean I'm there to to make suggestions or to if I don't approve of something I can yes I would imagine that your approval because means of why they always ask they always say you gave them a lot of very firm foundation a good education the training experience a role model and everything and they in turn have given you walk in the form of many many great.

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One is a very very very precious little the oldest. 15 talking to Dr this is 50 out of 1717 this is quite a crowd it is well there were 3 grandchildren are asking that there was Katherine who was 2 and a half and. Between 84 kids on the street and then Jay Jenison who was just about 18 months and Dennis love was Dennis's 2nd child who is he was 6 weeks old so he'll have the 1st right.

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He's looking down with great amusement at a huge crowd that is yeah I hope so so we start with the oldest at 50 right now tell me about the right guy Kathryn is the oldest she's 15 I might get some mixed up as I get down to a little girl by.

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Family and my family Catherine is 15 Dennis love who they should all did this is children Dennis is Toyah of Allison was 11 and Reed is by Genesis Dennis has 4 children Jimmy has 4 children is James Erskin love the 4th who today is his birthday he's 12 years old on June 14th.

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The next one is mar your love Marguerite love who is named for our skin stepmother that we were very very fond of she died in 1964 a chicken it actually but she was a lady and so she her Marguerite Marg is named from Marguerite for her in this water Love who is that 8 and Frank love who is 6.

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And then this is my only daughter Carolyn Genesis and she is married to a wonderful young man George Genesis I don't forgot to mention the wives listen they've got such wonderful as this is why that's of a cult love who grew up in Fort Mill South Carolina and in cereal and MacIntyre love who grew up here in Atlanta and she was a lawyer by trade before they were married she graduated from the University of Georgia law school with the 4th generation of her family to graduate from the University of Georgia law school and her niece just graduated as a 5th generation to graduate so they are pretty proud Should they try to go there and then there's Carolyn who's married to George Jonathan who grew up in Virginia now like Sandra but he is they live in Richmond and he is he works for a.

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Week 1st Students 1st Union we secure just that and they have 4 children Jay who is. Almost 15 David who is 13. And Christie who is his Christina had to attend Christmas to anything and Jackie who just had a birthday Monday Sunday and she's a left she's 7.

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And in Keith's lived in Hendersonville North Carolina he runs our Hendersonville play at his plant manager there and his wife is Barbara Steinman. And Barbara grew up in Alabama and worked for the Atlanta Symphony here in Atlanta when Keith met her she was volunteer coordinator and they have 2 of girls and they live in isolated ash a lot of plants and hints from here but they live in Asheville and Emily is the oldest and she's a ute and I think that tried to stop.

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Me. You know. Janey is sick sometimes I get the birthdays were mixed up Jane is 6 and her name is Jane McCullough horn love so she's kind of named for me kind of get that name going anyway and then Bill and married Lois brought skills not Lois but my best Bromley whose parents live here in Atlanta and Beth went to do with the she was it do you get the same time there was and they would have thought they'd been in London for about a year and a half and Bill is in charge of European sales and marketing.

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And they live right in the city and I had a wonderful time visiting my home they have 3 little girls Sarah who's 8 Jessica who's 6 and Katie who was born on my birthday 3 years ago and she'll be like really alone Friday. And then there is David and Valerie have been married 2 and a half years they're just starting their **** and David is in graduate school to do case and speak with business crew and Valerie grew up in New York and they made it do you actually met their last month of school before they graduated and took it from Les David as a golfer he played professional golf are couple of years not Davis Love He's David we always have to qualify to actually have to qualify but he's a good guy and still enjoys it and they live in Indore right now.

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So just the whole crowd ever get together at one time I finally got them all together for about 2 days last summer all 30 of us we were at the beach we have a house at the beach and it's not nearly big enough for all 30 of us so I rented to house next door to cousins are so close in a little Many of them there just to be some wonderful French we have they each have somebody there almost their age which is nice cool that we got them all together for about 2 days and then they had David go back to Duke and Catherine had to go back to Atlanta for cheerleader practice but everybody that's right sure if you can do that once every few years anyway well so everybody can see everybody else right time that'll be a huge huge especially since task right there for writers to get that all together and they all claim to be back for the take building dedication and I'll get to know how many of them are going to come to Georgia Tech so we have a lot of the China right in there.

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I want to be gradually ready to do I mean there must be at least one I would think at least one out wanted to be really neat in the money could come back and continue to just I don't know that anybody right now knows whether they have a propensity for engineering I am much too young yet but did I mean take is such a wonderful **** it has it has done so well and the only way it's going is a brighter and brighter future there's.

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Hopefully one of these little youngsters on these little loves are jealous I'm going to get in there every night if it would be nice to do exactly what I would hope that I wanted to would yeah I think Georgia Tech pops one or 2 maybe one of the girls my dear in fact that would be the trendy right to do if I'm one of the girls.

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Also you have this horrible tragedy in your life it still is a very placid life and I want to answer this many the Lord has blessed me in many many ways. And you know we don't understand the wires going can't be here to be part of all of it after a certain spirit and his philosophy is here to support you must make much longer no I still have a lot of tech friends and I feel very comfortable with it to hear that they it's wonderful to go to techno that he still remembered Very much so in fact you become somewhat of a legend I mean he's been loved by people that knew him of course many of them are still very funny and involved.

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In starting the student Foundation which he was gracious enough to do he's also perpetuated his own memory for these very bright young people who you've met many yeah they have very impressive Inspirational who I had a case 2 years ago they invited me to a dentist that they have at the end of the year and I was so impressed by the sense of the eloquence of this speaking and the way that I could ducted the meeting that then our kids and the reports that they made on the progress of the foundation and it leaves with their great great he would have loved he would have he would likely 20 but he did he even though he's not here he's done a remarkable saint in giving them that message that philanthropy Lancer p. is the right way to go and it's a message that many 20 something year olds don't get today and so he's really comes to the very unique way because they're very conscious everyone of them that they got to start because her skin was cared enough to in day out that whole organization and I think it's wonderful that he's perpetuated that ways memories perpetuated that way and it leaves the room and he becomes a Roman leaves that image with them to reach out and make a difference because he has made a difference if I mean in many ways here contribution and so well received but that one is really unique because.

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People Yeah it's the people that effect and it's like dropping the system in the water the ripple goes that touches so many more shores and boundaries that we don't even know we have no idea you know what it's like the quotation that he used from Elton trooper blood in when he spoke at Dr Pitts funeral.

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And this quotation really speaks we feel it speaks to him to a man in spite of these to start in discovering the meaning of human life when you plant shade trees under which he knows full well he will never sit a 6 because you're just gave me a day here you're you've done the very same thing with telling your story.

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We don't know where the story will go we don't know is into the story but very well it could be some of the love children that we hope will be rambling next somewhere down the road fully and it's wonderful to think that they are going to come to the dedication I hope you take about a 1000 pictures.

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From one with only a life. So that you feel when surround yourself with them all busy doing family work here and there and well it's nice that my children of all pick their own philanthropist to be associated with they are they've all everyone album is in the father mother's knee and so each of them have gone off again the ripple is gone if I say that they've selected different things to isn't that interesting that they have each found their own interests and has done their own thing.

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Well Georgia Tech grateful for the day that are in love came there and certainly for all the generous support that you give and I'm grateful you came to George back I never would have found him in Greenwood South Carolina or what have you not what I found in one of our local lab the you back this is as all very serendipitous but a great plan you know that no kind of for stores your faith in the right things will happen and even when the wrong things happen somehow or they have beneficial things that fall from themselves to a great plan a tradition of institutions brought us together riches in Georgia to.

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I mean you're probably having a coke along the way down to the victors go play it right. That's for sure well thank you so much for your graciousness and hospitality in welcoming us here today we're so pleased to do your story well and we look forward to the next generation the following generations of little loves doing your thing in the world thank you thank you so much hope of it a little bit to take story that maybe no one else knew about it a great do you make it so very thank you.