Great All right so first I'm going to so.

I'm really excited to be here and
actually I know so

much that it wasn't a big group it's
a pretty big group to me I've been to some

of these meetings before this is
probably about what it usually is so.

First of all I have sneakers on I know
I look very fancy with my sneakers on

because I had actually had foot
surgery three months ago and

I'm still recovering it's like a nine
month recovery might I had tendons

transferred in my foot and
my heel was moved over six hundred or

so anyway I didn't have an injury it was I
was born with it Has anyone ever heard of

a cave this foot sea
it's a really high arch.

And after years of being super S Leduc and
doing all that stuff.

After a while what happens is
your ten year tear tendons

wear out because you're constantly rolling
out so anyway so it's a long process but

I had to put the sneakers on so
I'm super excited to be here Dave

you have the Dave is actually
an instructor with us.

And so it was wonderful that
he wanted to attend but so

what we're going to talk about today
is the organization that I founded

about four years ago it's called
blue hair technology group and

we'll get into the reason why I
started it and all that stuff but.

Our mission and you're going to see this
on the slide but our mission we are a five

A one C. nonprofit Ireland C three
nonprofit here in the Atlanta area and

our mission is to show seniors how
to use technology modern technology.

So that they can stay connected
to family friends and

the world all right so what I want to
play first in this is about a minute and

a half so don't you don't think that
you're going to fall asleep here but

we were on very it we were
very excited but around the.

Remember in a November time frame we were
we were actually were interviewed by

Jonathan Siri who is a Fox News.

Correspondent and
this is the ninety second story feature

story that we got on this is national Fox
News I mean whatever it was big news so so

let me see if I can I hope I didn't mess
it up it looks like Yeah go ahead and

press on but I'd like to do let's make
sure we started the very beginning.

Do you want to miss any
story down there we got.

The only new.

Can't.

Get.

More on this.

Morning here in the states to my dad why
the whole Listen part of our it is our

own computer I know well
I won't watch this.

Offloads on.

It's a homage to slate
seniors having trouble

because.

That's where she comes here.

For you were created a nonprofit
blue here technology group

to teach seniors have
the smartphones tablets and

other gadgets are you texting you if they
want to stay in touch with their kids or

grandkids back to the test exact
our people who want to keep it.

Easy.

Because of his drug with.

Different language so the instructors and

all the teachers take extra time to
translate high tech concepts into terms.

Well which is the British public about
are we really say are people that

the forties who are looking for here
is free and he turned the radio on and

you listen to radio show that's
exactly the pod cast and yes.

Technology like this is become so
commonplace it often allies in the box

without any ideas slouches quality
if you're grown up with it but

you're also a little with it it's
always good to have a little here and

laugh at Ariel Sharon's they all used
to have a live bomb was in the books.

They.

Are the.

Usual things overview of you so you go to.

The subway go home this week man.

This is the start of
a business of paper if

you.

Know that.

You're still.

Having another crack.

You see this is boomers because
the first really is a dirty.

Bed earlier we're never really focusing
on well so you need high never major and

works a little bit weird because you
really obvious which is a wonderful We got

a lot of compliments from people who
love it believe that your technologies

are really your advice to people
throughout that whole World War two

generation so we're looking at
the sort of big state and that blue

here technology but having it who knows
more technology not Boomer technology but

other things so that we can sort of expand
our reach because there is a lot of

baby boomers out there on the baby
boomers I'm an old young baby boomer but

there are baby boomers out there that
definitely are are challenged and.

So we want to make sure that we're you
know because we teach that we teach relief

and say from the fifty five or
fifty year olds and above so so

do I just click it let's
see that it go Yeah so

we're going to talk about this is what
we're going to do who we are got a sense

of that why we started this nonprofit so
it's really why we are I I started

the nonprofits all story everyone
typically a nonstarter nonprofit because

of the story the workshops that we
teach I mean our workshops scuse me

our workshops and the people that are
involved in the workshops we have students

we have instructors we have volunteers the
curriculum that's part of the workshops

are plans for two thousand and sixteen and
if we have time I was going to go through

some tips on the i Phone How many
of you have an i Phone and here.

How many have an android one person.

That's sort of our classes go as well so

there's a couple of probably now so
we have a young age young

group in here so the tips I'm going to
show you probably you guys know but

what I'll be amazed that if I show you
something and someone says I didn't know

that now John you might say I didn't
know that you're going to say OK OK So

if we have time sir he mentioned
the mission we saw the video.

Modern technology is probably one
of the key things here we are not.

We're not teaching seniors
how to use their flip phones

right we're not doing we don't do that.

You know we probably have done we've done
we did it in like an open house one time

where people brought all their technology
and all these flip phones flip phones

are not easy to work they're easy to work
if all you want to do is dial a number and

answer a call but you try to add
a contact on the flip phone.

Impossible so we don't do flip phones we
really don't do a whole lot with computers

basic computer training.

Most people or most people
are a little bit beyond that at least.

To the core that we're looking at so.

So that's what we do.

So behind the why so why.

This is my mother.

And she's the story she's the reason why
I started Blue her Technology Group so

four years ago she's now ninety four
years ago she turned eighty six.

And she got an i Pad because my brother
said I think Mom needs an i Pad Why

because she needs to stay relevant First
of all because everyone has technology

to keep connected with her grandkids and
if my father dies first

who is the computer guy or was he still
alive but he has now he is also armor but

he was the computer guy everything she
needed from the computer he gave to

her Well what happens if something happens
she then would at least have some ability

to get out there and
be somewhat independent so I gave her

the gift because she lives here she
lives it atria of North Point over

by the rising amphitheater it's a senior
living community that's where they live so

I gave her and I that's close to me I
gave her the gift of weekly lessons for

three months so once a week I went over
on the same day at the same time and

I gave her an hour lesson and it actually
worked well now how many of you have

experienced interacting
with your parent or

grandparent trying to teach
them how to do something and

it really doesn't work out real
well the frustration builds

the annoyance builds it's just like and

that's typically the way it goes that's
you know that's another reason we do what

we do because typically the interaction
between parent and child typically.

Or anything you know it's just the way it
works unfortunately so but it went OK for

me and it's you know what I realized
is that there was an approach

how you approach teaching somebody.

Something that was brand new to
him that they were fearful of

most of them are fearful they're frayed
they're going to break it not drop it and

break it that if they touch
something they're going to break it.

And the i Pad or whatever tablet
is all about interacting so

I realized pretty quickly that the fear
of touching it was part of it and

then just obviously just you know
having no clue how it works so

I understood the importance of
how do you peel back the layers

until you get to what's the very beginning
thing that you need to talk to them about.

So I realize here it is I also realized
during that time the importance of high

touch instruction you know they
weren't going to get it from reading

a piece of paper they weren't going
to get it necessarily from watching

you know somebody I mean I think more
importantly they weren't going to

buy me talking to her over the phone
how many of you again raise it

how many of you try to give instructions
to your parents over the phone.

That's hard right you're trying
to visualize where they are so

I realize the importance of high touch
instructions high touch it's really high

touch instruction and
the simple steps that go along with it so

it was after during that phase that I said
gee there's a whole generation of people

that are totally left out and
there really are no places for

them to go to learn how to use their
device sure they can go to the Apple store

we hear some of them do some of
them go to the Apple store but

we hear they're intimidated it's noisy
it's overwhelming there's not a place

that older people want to go it's a place
that younger people want to go because

it's energy right and also sometimes it is
specially good horizon everyone say well

eight hundred T.V. gives me lessons that's
hit or miss depending on the store.

At Apple probably does the best but

the other thing with Apple is
that the senior will come in and

the Apple representatives will say
What do you have a question about.

So they already need to know
the question and most of these

folks that we're teaching don't know
the question so we over four years have

learned what is the most important stuff
what do they want to learn so we've.

Develop the curriculum that we know.

They want to learn and it's based on
feedback and all that stuff so and

it's not rocket science you guys
probably can figure out very quickly

what is it that they want what
do you think they want to learn.

E-mail you know what else.

What.

Photos.

What.

You know they did that with and

that might come afterwards but
if the weather they don't really

they don't really that's not that's
not a key thing no they want to learn.

To Rexton How do I get
directions what else.

Texting.

That Facebook thing yes.

Face Time Yeah you know what's interesting
about face time everyone thinks

my gosh they must love Face Time you know
a lot of them don't like it because they

don't like the way they look anymore.

And you wouldn't know that unless you were
in the classes because of the outside

perspective it's called it's the love and
then when we bring Face Time up what's

the first thing they see when they
bring up Face Time their face it's like

my gosh you know so that's an interesting
you know that's a new guy should know that

stuff I mean you guys realize that stuff
that's why you do research because you can

make an assumption that they love Face
Time you know not all of them look so.

What else do they would all stay let's see
what we teach them about the importance

of context how they don't walk in thinking
old contacts adding contacts to my phone

is probably one of the most important
things I could do but we teach him

that it is because it is you have people
seniors coming in with their i Phones and

no contacts.

What else do we teach them internet
how to access the Internet

on their devices that's probably
not a high priority but

when we teach them the importance
of it yes downloading apps.

Downloading apps is another then yes.

Yes.
Yes I just did a class the other day

we went into the clock I mean
to the control panel OK so

you swipe up there's the control panel and
they didn't know that was there or

whatever but then I said this is
the clock clock up now the thing about

it is what's interesting about the clock
app and we went into the a long arm and

set the alarm and
how to you know set the timer and

I said you know what's interesting even
for me when I'm cooking something and

I know there's a timer on my i
Phone I still go to my stove and

I put the alarm home that way because
that's my way of doing it in fact I

do I think that some seniors are going to
use the still alarm on their phone to you

know to for their baking Probably not but
we do shown that stuff yes absolutely yes

or.

You know we do some.

You know and that's an interesting
you know we we teach them we go into

accessibility when we look at the fonts
I think that's where accessibility is so

we show how to increase the fonts.

What else do we do it
on I think that's an.

You know we don't go into that as
much because we don't we haven't.

Well probably number one is that
we as instructors probably don't

understand it that well although you know
we obviously understand the fonts and

the contrast but I think there's there's a
hearing aid stuff there's a whole bunch of

stuff that would be wonderful to learn and
actually have classes specifically on that

where people do have I know there's
tons revision right that improves

the vision now for macular degeneration
though nothing's going to improve it right

nothing on the i Pad will
improve the visibility for

someone with macular degeneration Yeah.

We haven't had a lot I know is about
voice over that it annoys me so but for

somebody that would I think we.

I actually have to have a class for people
who and how to how to use it because

there's there's tricks on that too right
how to how to how you navigate what

voiceovers on right.

Yes we teach in Siri and
they somewhat love Siri but

they really we teach them that but
I think again for

someone who either has visual problems
there could be a lot more instruction

on Siri because that is not a comfortable
place for them as far as being ready and

that when they push that button and
it goes Boop.

Knowing what to say without any.

So that's great we'd love to do more
in that in that area actually so.

This is this is what we did
a brainstorming session the other day and

this is what we decided we were
to people who are professional.

And we have our shirts we have our
blue here technology shirts I don't

know where they're going but

we're professional were exciting they
come to our classes they're excited.

We're trusting reliable we're prepared
we're patient were accessible accessible

really means that we are cost accessible
Yes We're nonprofit we do charge for

our classes unless we get grants and other
ways that we can provide these classes at

no at no cost I'm actually going to be
working with the city of Atlanta in

the month of April teaching classes
at five south east Atlanta.

Senior centers and they have a grant so

we're going to be able to do that which
is really nice and we're knowledgeable.

Maybe not all about all the accessibility
stuff so but we feel it we're

knowledgeable We also are knowledgeable
because we've been doing this for

over four years so we are knowledgeable
about the market from our perspective so.

If you any questions obviously
just raise your hand

I think I have plenty of
time left at the end.

So I put this in here and I thought my
gosh is research scientists they're going

to ask me how I got these
stats the Survey Monkey OK so.

So this is this is just you know
straight out of my Survey Monkey which

which we probably have like we got how
we try to get the students we try to

do this this is hard and you guys probably
could help us so much in this area but

to really get stats on where
people before the classes begin.

Where are they after the classes begin and
where are they from the perspective of.

A.

Very good look at hey you know
to be able to say our classes

are making an impact sure we have a little
you know like Survey Monkey You know so

we have things like they're saying and I
was going to put some quotes up there from

Survey Monkey But you know we had a great
time and I've learned a lot you know but

that's not you know that's not really
measurable and we'd love to and

we're going to be doing this with the city
a month after we finish the classes to

come in and say now what do you do because
a lot of them don't do anything and

then they lose everything so
that would that would be awesome but

just to give you an idea seventy percent
a lot of our classes are women now seventy

percent of the classes and we're talking
about let's say we taught about.

Trying to think we taught about two
hundred fifty classes last year

each class has about ten ten
people in it so you know it's but

this is like ninety people who
actually completed the survey but

in general you can imagine that we
have mostly women and why is that.

Research people could figure that
out probably better than us but

our gut feel says that most men die
sooner so we're dealing with an age group

that husbands have died in a lot of
cases I also think and an instructor

said this is one of the instructor said
this it could be that the name of our

organization could limit men wanting
to attend because they don't feel like

their blue hairs you know we don't know
and then but I think that's the biggest

reason also women really weren't part
of it we didn't work a lot in this to.

And aeration So
they they aren't as adaptable or

they don't understand technology as well
but would love to but there are a lot of

men out there that need our assistance so
we'd love to change that but

I think we always see that there's going
to be more women than men doing this.

That gives you an idea of the age
range at least of the people who

completed the survey.

Most of them are in the seventy to
seventy four years of age range this

is changed over the four years so
in the beginning it was a gift

you know so we have three questions when
we ask that how did you get your device

it was a gift I bought myself a hand me
down I don't even know those are valid and

so they hand me downs do happen but
they're not as not as often but

in the beginning it was always a I got as
a gift now when someone gets it as a gift

they're a different learner then they went
out and bought it on their own and they're

they're focused so that's interesting
I think that also just shows how much

technology is now part of everything and
even the seniors realize that So

here we have we had over two hundred
fifty workshops each workshop.

Just so you know a workshop is comprised
of either a four week series or

an eight week series so.

Two hundred fifty workshops doesn't
mean that those are all individual

unique workshops it's really no no it
is I'm sorry I'm saying that wrong so

we had the workshops means that
they're either a four week workshop or

an eight week workshop so we have an eight
week i Phone workshop an eight week i Pad

workshop which means that
they come once a week and

they learn a different topic we
also can cut those classes and

those workshops in half where they
can do four weeks but we have.

Big plans and this is John just number
we have specific strategy on how we

are going to really increase the number
of workshops that we teach this year and

we've got that all together in
a in a business strategy and

marketing strategy and a whole bunch
of strategy because there are.

So many places where we could be.

So.

That's so that's the students.

Are instructors so we actually have
loops our volunteers excuse me

that I I think I might have
missed one let me go back.

So we do have an on boarding process for
instructors so instructors actually do

get paid their ten thousand contractors
not a lot but they do get paid we're still

I still feel that we're sort of in the
start up mode still still trying to get

the grants and everything but I don't know
if any of you know best work data but

best work data is an assessment tool we do
have an assessment tool that allows us to

assess you know sort of that there are the
skill of the instructor because we look

for very specific skills we look for
patients but we look for high energy.

Those are two things sometimes can
be opposite ends of the spectrum so

that test tells us very quickly does this
person have the energy because the energy

is really important but do they also
have the patience to be able to do this

are we like in the volunteer or two of
our sessions we like them to observe and

then we get into it Cohen struct ing and
this is so they were up there instructing

with another instructor in twenty fifteen
we had total of seven instructors

based on our projections would
have thirty instructors and

this is all in the metropolitan
Atlanta area we're looking at.

So please.

Our volunteers so we have over two
hundred fifty volunteers in our

the way we really get them is through
Volunteer Match out or giving every week

we get there I mean we get lots of
people challenge and is most people

are not available during the day during
the week so we we because that's when we

hold our classes that's when the seniors
are available but we like volunteers.

At all of our classes because
the volunteers help ensure that

the student is staying with the instructor
so we typically if we have a classic.

Fifteen we liked three to four volunteers
so the instructor can teach and

the volunteers can make sure that
the students are following along and

believe me volunteers
are critical in the success and

the volunteers are loved by the students.

And then you can see their
responsibilities pretty pretty

straightforward with the do.

Our curriculum so I brought some examples.

Of we do write.

Our own curriculum.

There's a lot of curriculum
out there probably.

But we write it first of all in the way
that we want the class to run in that

structured approach as well as we write
it in a way that you know I don't

know our passes around but big with
pictures and all that so we have not

if this is time consuming so that's one of
our that's a bet's a I don't want to call

it a challenge but keeping the curriculum
current We currently do that in-house so

I'll just you can you
can pass this down so

you can see so that's an i Phone
curriculum Here's an i Pad curriculum and

this is this is a four week Android
curriculum that you can look at if you'd

like just to see now yes we would love
to print the whole thing in color.

It's too expensive but it would look great
I'll tell you so we do the cover in color.

We're also starting to produce
finishing our e-commerce site and

the curriculum is going
to be available for

purchase they can download it as a P.D.F.
not very expensive or

we can actually ship them the actual hard
bound books that they want so we're hoping

we haven't really launched that yet
but we're about ready to launch that.

So I mentioned plans for twenty sixteen or
growth and again this is not just pie in

the sky we actually have plans around
this but our group workshop so.

And I explained that we do group workshops
where we have fifteen students we go to

places such as senior living
community C C R C S senior centers

churches churches are actually
becoming a very big.

Target for us synagogues and
we have new plans and

I think I have it on here for
next year other places that we you know so

we go to the seniors we don't
have a physical location.

We do want to one sessions where
we go to people's homes or

in the case from from a liability
standpoint since I'm a one

the one employee I can actually go to
the home because we are covered but

our instructors were to ninety nine
we would meet them in a library or

a place like that where we could provide
the one on ones for right now that's how

we have to do that but we have a lot
of people who want to do one on one.

We want to recruit retired executives This
is our key We're going to figure out how

to get retired executives
who know how to sell

who know how to market who know
how to do all those things.

Would love to establish an advisory
committee we don't have an advisory

committee just yet but would like to get
an advisory committee and maybe your

thoughts on who those people would be
would be great we want to secure strong

partnerships sponsors and more so we have
a lot going on as far as our plans for

next year but the key thing is growth
growth growth because we've barely touched

the surface and these folks will
be part of how we get the growth.

And then lastly on the last page.

Well question let me before I said that
because I didn't I didn't put the stuff in

here so I mentioned some of the places
where we go today but we're also looking

at homeowners to starting to look at
homeowners' associations where we can go

because there's a lot of communities
in Atlanta that have aged in place.

For example where I live in Johns Creek
saying I've seen beautiful Country Club I

mean beautiful but it's been around
about twenty twenty five years and

the kids are grown up and.

It's an older community country club of
the South I mean it doesn't have to be

the Country Club communities H.O.A.'s
in general if you think about

how Atlanta if this there is subdivisions
so if there was a way we're going to

figure out a way to connect with
the the boards of those H.O.A.'s and

figure out how we can bring
our art classes to their.

Communities so and then what else
were we thinking We also have done.

Big workshops with I.B.M. retirees
they have retired retiree groups with

all the corporations have big retiree
groups where we could go into classes so

there's a lot of there's
just limitless opportunity

there's tons of people who throw out
there that are trying to learn so.

What questions can I answer that's
sort of that's that's what we do so

that's who we are questions yes

or.

No.

Free.

For Christ.

That's right.

OK And who is the person you
mention First though who is

a.

Are they part of the senior
center you know OK.

Awesome young awesome they have

they have wife I committed
community want it's pretty

cool.

OK great love to connect with her.

Right.

I only knew there was one in

the north I only knew of one in
Tokyo Hills Is there another

one.

Right right

right.

That's going.

Now the Atlanta area agent but it lanta.

If you know someone introduced
me to the challenge and

I'm a very personable better spent I you
know you introduce me to someone on there

that is a tough group that
is a tough nut to crack

that agency because I went you know and
we've been around for a while and

I've attempted Carolyn rater radar but
she was one she's retired so she's quick.

I would love to connect with them because
one of the things we try were true

we were struggling with is the grants
there has to be grants in Atlanta for

aging services and this type of
interest and it's been difficult

I don't I see I don't have anyone on
the staff right now who's like a grant

researcher.

OK.

OK.

I have some brochures I'm
going to hand out guesser.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's a so my initial thought is this
is how we typically do it if we go

it's going to be a per person cost.

However I mean I'm thinking about
this now maybe if the H.-O. if the H.

away wants to organize it and
they're going to commit to at least X.

number of people then it would be we
it would be twelve hundred dollars for

eight weeks for fifteen people so so

typically that means it comes down to
about twelve dollars per person for

each class for each hour and
a half class it's twelve dollars and

for eight weeks it's ninety six.

So I mean because eight weeks is a long
I mean eight weeks is a long time and

you doing it for an hour and a half so I
don't think it would be the way that would

be paying I think it's the H.-A way
coordinates getting people to the class

and the individual's pay so that would be
twelve dollars See we don't really teach

a one time class as much because what
we're although we would would come in and

we do a one time class but
typically what we're doing is a series

because people don't know how
to use a lot so we can come

in with a four week class which then would
be forty eight dollars per person so it's

when I say it's accessible I mean that's
with no great nothing I mean we're not I

mean it's twelve dollars That is not a lot
of money for an hour and a half class.

I mean as you can imagine so
expect it's about twelve dollars for

an hour and have classes so
it's either forty eight for a four week or

nine hundred ninety six for
a eight week class.

At me in these Or did I have amount that
I did President two three four five six

yes.

Nothing is not a concern OK I'd love to.

Talked about that we don't do any now
when you say elder abuse risk if where if

you're in a group can that still happen.

Yeah I'm.

Sure.

You're.

Absent No that's a very good point we.

All.

Know that's a good point i.

Recently went through this.

Guess.

What happened how did it happen.

You know that's we should we don't
do that so I would love to know.

First of all is that
going to be costly about.

Your life.

Or.

We don't do anything like that so
I mean I think that's very important for

us to look at and I prefer to bring it up.

I'm the only one that goes into someone's
home from a liability standpoint

because I'm an employee and I have a
waiver and all that stuff the contractors

it was a huge life we were I was going to
have to get bonded and all that stuff so

but they are going to you know
work with them in the library and

you're right that's of that's
a very good point Dave.

Could you make a note of that so
but I'd love to find out I mean

that you don't know of any so what I can
do is find out about that John you might

know about that because you guys
probably have to screen employees for

stuff because you go do you guys go
to people's homes or you know yeah.

But there's a difference between you
know going in someone's home and

giving a personal care and all that stuff
versus you know I don't know if we have to

go that extreme but
I think that's a very good point yeah.

But other questions one two three four

we're.

Here.

And we're dealing with
their passwords Tom.

We're dealing with their passwords all the
time it's the number one biggest problem

they don't have it and then we're
resetting it and then we're entering it in

for we're constantly doing that so
it's a very good that's a good point to.

At least to be able to whoever asked
the question initially to be able to say

yes this is what we do versus nothing you
know that's I mean I was just being honest

I mean I'm sure someone else
would be politically correct but

I just said nothing because that's
what we're doing right now so

that's a very good that's a very good.

That's something that we need
to make sure that we have so

that we can show people that
this is what we do so thank you.

What else.

Yes.

I would love to yes I do I know you
we were going to come in yeah but

we haven't had that happen yet
it's surgery and.

That would be that would be great with our
instructors because I think it would be

awesome to have classes that
are specifically around those excessive

especially you know whether we're teaching
them sort of the basic ones in a in

a generic class but then being able to
have classes that are specifically for

people who are visually impaired or any of
the access abilities we might find out.

Yeah.

OK Why.

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Right.

Right.

Out there.

We do text and bold text we also make it
bold That's another one right yeah yeah.

Although I'm sure OK great now that
would be wonderful would it take

to learn about the accessibility.

Was.

OK.

I love I think would be great just to
meet with you guys had to write stuff

all right.

Yes.

You're.

Right.

Up.

To you.

Four dollars you know so
when we were talking about this you know.

We do not although I think it's a we don't
do a lot in that area as far as what.

We're actually.

You know what to answer your question just
as directly as I did the other one we

don't teach anything all in you know I.

Call it what security what did
you call it or Internet scams or.

And I know that the police departments
are very familiar with those things so

there's a you know and so maybe
partnering and having them come out and

do this the talk I don't know if we
are the right group to be the experts

on what cyber crime and
what's happening out there but and

because let me ask you this
we don't do we do e-mail but

it's not a lot doesn't a lot of the I
guess the fraud happens a lot on

it can happen a lot on i Pads but
isn't a lot of it on an on P.C.

based laptops no you're seeing it on.

E-mail primarily And phone I guess phone

calls.

Yes.

Interesting.

Yeah I'm.

OK.

Yeah yeah.

Very intimidating.

To watch.

Georgia watch read though that's
critiqued that we should do that there

yeah.

No And I think again I think that may
be something that we should offer

I mean it's part of that the whole is
sort of to me it's all part of the whole

it's the whole thing and we don't.

We're actually talking with
an identity theft organization called.

To do some partnerships with them but

that's identity when to
identity is to be in.

Identity theft type stuff you don't
recovery but that's that's great you

know I think it's very very important and
they'd be so interested in it they're so

interested in that stuff because they're
always concerned about being scammed

Facebook's another no no in Facebook
at Facebook's another one you know

we teach Facebook and I had someone say
What do you teach tell them about all

the concerns about Facebook and what can
happen and you know we really don't.

We don't force anybody to do anything
on Facebook we just let them know what

the what the operator opportunities are
but they could be clicking on stuff and

Facebook you know what was your question
that's a good point though yes I'm.

OK.

She

was.

Very trusting Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah I think it's awareness just building
awareness of what the scams are and

what when to say you know
this is really seem right so

that's that's great.

But I'm.

Just stunned because all
the viruses are on there now so.

What else.

OK my.

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Perfect on time OK.

I brought.