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Bob look and know you from Montreal to the Gulf of Mexico which you find used to be amazing and he also a fifty mile automatic he's going to talk today about dumping more than four C. of beams without you. Cation to speak craft. Spacecraft wiring harness this well thank you very much. Thanks for the very nice introduction. I have to say this is my first time on the Georgia Tech campus and I'm truly delighted to be here. Yes it would be helpful. I can't see them playing with the fact I was going to be a little tricky working with the laser pointer over the shoulder to go looking. But simply putting them at risk and they were delighted to be here this is one of the premier aerospace engineering institutions in the US in the world and it's really an honor for me to us to be addressed to you today from now. Tell you about some of the work we've done in the last couple of. Years on this particular topic of damping as a road relates to a particular aspect of space craft structural dynamics want to acknowledge the contributions of Jeff Kaufman who's recently graduated from Penn State and started his career as an assistant professor at the University of Central Florida this work is not his Ph D. dissertation work we sort of took this up on the side for fun because we like doing this stuff. So here's what I'm going to talk about fundamentally from a mic mechanics point of view I assume that I'm I'm so happy that so many graduate students seem to be here and faculty members but I assume the grad students are here because they have some interest in the structural mechanics side of the House and maybe you'll find this of interest. I hope so. So fundamentally what this will be will be a new damping model for sure. Beads and I'll give you plenty of background for the faculty members here who don't know what you're beams are because I think there might be to talk a little bit about spacecraft cable dynamics some background regarding the specifics of the details of the model and its development and some of the results that fall from this and we'll see if comparison between the predictions from the mathematical model and some experimental measurements made by our colleagues at Sandia and a a for real. And so forth. That's kind of the main topics. One of the unique features fairly unique features of this damping model is that it will provide modal damping for beam like structures that's approximately constant or uniform with frequency and I'll show you some background. Regarding the behavior of more typical damping models and you see that these more typical models don't follow this behavior at all. So that that's kind of the unique feature of this. So by way of background. Here's a relatively small spacecraft flown by the US Air Force and developed in conjunction. With some folks and at Sandia all out in Albuquerque New Mexico. This is roughly the size of a washing machine. It's called the X S S one eleven and it has the it's mission is kind of interesting because I don't know exactly what this means. Autonomous rendezvous and proximity maneuvers the case of the satellite flies around in visits other satellites and that. The really interesting thing from a structures in dynamics point of view is that thirty percent of the drive mass of this vehicle is cabling So you see all this orange colored stuff on here. That's kept on this are kept on wrapped cables thirty percent of the drive masts your couple reasons for this of course there must be some sensors and power electronics and other kinds of instrumentation on this vehicle. So there's increasing power communication systems associated with these data requirements and structures people being what they are always try to build very light efficient structures that have a pretty low structural mass given the payloads so I was actually amazed to learn that this mass fraction was so high. So if you think about the structural plane Nam mix of this vehicle. It's not hard to imagine but the cables can effect the dynamics quite significantly with thirty percent of the mass and back in the day when I was doing structural dynamics of spacecraft as a practicing engineer the number was nowhere near that high and usually we just kind of simulate the or try to capture the first order effect of the cabling by putting some extra mass there. We totally ignored the stiffness even and it turns out for a vehicle like that it's not possible. So for many of these vehicles including this one an accurate dynamics model is important to the spacecraft design invalidation launch loads as many of you. No a very significant driver of the structural strength. And some of the precision control requirements for an orbit operation might might require I don't actually know if it's case for this particular vehicle high performance attitude and instrumentation pointing systems such that if you might have several or many structural modes of vibration within the band with the active control system in a situation like that it's fairly important to have accurate models of the structural dynamics and it's as an aside it also helps to have had a dip in because it gives you a little bit of robustness to modeling errors in your controls were so based on their activity using current structural Dynamic Modeling approaches tended to over predict the response levels during launch today and primarily because they know the cables advantage but they didn't know how much or how to model it so. This is one of those few instances at least in my experience where the customer actually comes to you and says Hey I know you. I think I heard you know something about structural damping could you help me with this problem. Actually that happens once in a while but it's nice when it does so this kind of dropped in our laps and was very interesting problem to work on. So I'm not going to spend a lot of time we came in. Probably more than halfway through this multi-year project with a request to help specifically with modeling damping of these cable harnesses. Or wiring harnesses but researchers at Sandia and the Air Force Research Lab to see if the engineering and chief are all organizations out in Albuquerque spent several years just kind of zeroing in on an accurate stiffness model for those cables. I'm not going to go through the details here you can kind of glance said it in the time I'm going to. Gifty which is not much but the fundamental outcome of their Stephanus modeling effort was the realization that a Bernoulli Euler beam type model. The simplest kind of beam model. You know in which if you imagine line segments initially straight and perpendicular to the neutral axis the beam remain straight in perpendicular to the neutral axis of the beam upon differ mation that's a Bernoulli Euler beam that wasn't quite good enough for these cables as you might imagine I'll show you some details of what the cable cross sections look like but they needed to allow for the possibility of sheer defamation in the simplest sheer beam type model still says that the line segments that are initially straight remain straight but not necessarily perpendicular to the neutral axis and that's kind of the basic physical. Kind of assumption about the beam behavior. So let's take a little bit closer look at how the cables are coupled to the spacecraft or these orange cable type titles here are some that aren't really quite wrap quite soon nicely. They're attached the cables are attached to the underlying aluminum structure which you can see here through these tie downs there are discrete attachment points to the base structure see if we can have a side view maybe there's a side view. Here's here's a tide out point. Here's the base structure of the cable tie down point down point. At regular intervals. And you can see what that looks like so the challenge was to come up with a model for the dynamic behavior of this part that accurately captured stiffness and damping in our role was the Epping Let's take a quick look at what those cables look like they want to I just call them cables or wire harness is really easy but if you take a close look like many things. A little bit more complicated than you might expect. So the basic wire is actually a cop as its structure itself it's a metallic core with a polymer sheath these are combined and twisted pairs for electronics reasons shielding reasons either collected in bundles or stitched together at regular intervals the wrapped with kept on and this is kind of what they look like in cross-section. They're kind of they're more complex than you might think from a structural mechanics point of view or twisted you can get extension twist coupling they're bound together this way you don't actually know what the normal forces are from twisted pair to twisted pair. There's friction involved when they bend and I should say at this point we haven't you can imagine diving into great detail developing a mechanics model it's not the approach we took the approach we took was more like the one you would take in saying. OK I'm going to try to model this mechanically or stiffness wise as a shear be even though I understand these various elements are components might actually be sliding relative to one another as it bends. We're going to not have to worry about that if we don't have to. Another interesting feature is that depending on the day of the week and who assembled the cable you can actually get different mechanical behavior. And might even be different if one graduate student did it versus another. OK so these folks out in Albuquerque did construct many many tests Testaments segments of these cable harnesses they measured their mechanical behavior in the launch a two dollar extensional under extensional load longitudinal direction and measure the lateral of the havior of these to see it as the cable here it's a tattered being driven through a shaker through a thing or that the idea here is to excited dynamically. And lateral motion transverse to the long axis of the cable and try to determine its mechanical properties or if we're modeling this is a beam that the Flexeril rigidity E.I. and some shear stiffness as well. Kappa G. extensional properties a. And I've already told you this but they found that they needed to use the shear beam model to capture the cable dynamics accurately and you could see this from a plot of natural frequency versus mode number for let's say a clamp clamp be. OK so they're exciting at laterally if you know the properties maybe you best fit the properties for E.I. you know what the mass density is per unit length you can actually calculate pretty readily the natural frequencies versus mode number and if you assume it's an oil or a Bernoulli oil or B to get the dash line and if you go to the lab and measure it. You actually get this other line which indicates the beam is a little bit softer than you might otherwise expect it's because it's deforming in shear and this dark lane actually connects the shear beam solution so looks pretty good. They were very happy about that. Here's what it looks like from a damping point of view. So this is modal damping of the scale and. Typically we call that Zeta for each mode. If you remember the equations of motion for a single degree of freedom oscillator typically Zeta modal damping versus mode number. What's collected on here are the results for one hundred cables representing twelve different families that are distinguished from one another by the number of twisted pairs the length of the cable and some other features that we're not going to get into but all plotted one graph. So this dark line represents the mean connecting the dots for each mode the gray area represents two standard deviations. So at a first glance. So you can see that to first order you might say that the modal damping is four percent that's pretty good to some variation about that. Now you'd like to model this in your structural dynamics model there are different ways for doing that again we're not going to get into too much detail. One way involves restricting the kind of structural dynamic analysis you're interested in to frequency domain analysis looking at frequency response functions from point A to Point B. under harmonic loading here are some plots of the frequency response function magnitude vs frequency for a couple different test and analysis cases with the cables oriented vertically and horizontally. Maybe you'll have to take my word for it that the agreement is not dead. I think you're going to have to you can you can stare at it for a while they talk like the kind of model used here is essentially a last factor which is something that's useful for frequency domain analysis. You can just say sometimes in commercial find an element code codes this might be called a structural damping factor. Sometimes I think. McNeil swindler have a Seamaster and calls it G. last factor is a common name for material scientists would call that Ada usually is a material property in a way this is modeled it's just. Basically a complex multiple of the stiffness matrix. You just take the step and stiffness matrix multiply it by the complex last factor that your damping model. OK So that's what's done here. The the agreement is not bad but one of the issues here is that these folks in the Air Force really badly needed a time domain model so they could simulate the response to transients events to look at non-linear behavior. I didn't show you the data but the. The lateral response of the beams is actually non-linear with driving amplitude not surprisingly. You can't look at that kind of behavior with a linear model which a frequency domain model effectively is so this is the kind of the point it which we get involved. So you might you might say our goal is to develop a time domain damping model that that yields. Maybe approximately constant damping across multiple modes of these cable harness assemblies. And if anything you know at higher modes you kind of like the damping to be even higher. So when you actually use your time domain model to do seem to lation. The higher damping actually kind. Kinds of takes their contribution to the structural dynamic response out. So you have to worry you don't need to worry about it very much. Of course it's true that we need a better understanding of physical mechanisms and that's a broad statement about structural damping in general I would say. OK. One other bit of background here is that we've done a little bit of work in like the two thousand and nine. Let's call it showing that it was possible to develop a relatively simple viscous damping model that yielded uniform motile damping for a Bernoulli oil or B. we didn't look at a sure Beamon has this this kind of structure. Since I'm guessing many of the grad students here have looked at an equation like this in the not distant past. Now this is the equation of motion for the transverse vibration of a uniform planar Bernoulli Euler beam. Here's the mass term Here's the stiffness term. Here's some boundary conditions for a simply supported case stiffness the Asari displacement and moment of both and three zero. There's the damping term. And it looks as I'll get to. In a minute. It looks a little bit different from the more conventional damping terms that are used in this kind of model but let me just talk it through the analysis because this is conveniently assumed to have simply supported Badri conditions we already know what the mode shapes look like at least when there's no damping they look like integer numbers of half sine waves. So we can stuff that answer which we know into the differential equation and go from a partial differential equation to an ordinary differential equation we call this the modal E. Quezon of motion this is Mode him. The little subscript here indexed. So you have a mass and stiffness terms only time derivatives. This term tells us something about the natural frequency of the mode this is Omega squared right. This this is to zeta and him from your single degree of freedom oscillator background. So there's the natural frequency. Here's the damping and it turns out to be constant and independent of mode number or frequency. OK only depends on the mass the Flexeril rigidity in this damping term. So this is a nice result and and actually surprising and wonderful to us when we started working on this but the question here is is there some way to carry this a little bit farther and extend it to the sheer beam problem and help of these Air Force guys and their modeling of cables before we get to that. Let me just point out ways in which this particular damping model for the Bernoulli oiler beam differs from more conventional damping models for the same problem. So here is the same equation of motion for the lateral vibration of the plane or uniform Bernoulli Euler be mass and stiffness terms. Here's a damping term. For which the damping operator looks very much like the stiffness operator you can see there fourth facial derivatives here it's a uniform beam we might call this strain by. Viscous tamping if we were to extend this to a finite element type analysis look for discretized versions of this equation of motion we might call this stiffness proportional damping It's a special kind of proportional damping. We could even make a connection with the material equation of state or the constituent of equations in which the stress would not only be proportional to the strain but proportional to the strain rate. OK so it's a kind of viscous dipping you can arrive at this through a number of ways but this is a pretty typical damping model for this kind of problem. And one that makes a lot of sense it's mathematically simple. It's just that it's a crummy model. OK So here's the model equation of motion with the model frequencies just exactly the same the damp the here's the equation for the model damping for this particular kind of damping model and I want you to notice when you squeeze everything out of it. The modal damping is proportional to the modal frequency. So you don't have to go to a very high mode number before the modal damping is absurd. OK and not very useful this is not a good damping model in general people insist on using it in a lot of applications but it's just a bad idea. It's convenient mathematically. OK. Another kind of model that's often used by way of background as this kind of term I think controls people might call this something like skyhook damping. This is kind of analogous to a beam on a lastic foundational only it's a dissipated foundation. So there's a lateral force that arises external to the beam somehow that's proportional to the lateral velocity in the opposing OK which it's kind of it might be the simplest sort of you might say aerodynamic damping model is that it resists the motion and might be associated with the environment in which the beam is the. You waited but you'll see that this is also a bad damping model in general for a couple of reasons. If you look at the modal damping you work it out. It turns out to be inversely proportional to the couple. Well one problem is this with this is a again you don't have to go to very very high number before the damping is quite low and almost zero. Another problem you have this again in a finite element context we would call this mass proportional damping you get into a damping matrix that's proportional to the mass matrix and actually gives you non-zero damping in the rigid body modes if you have which is a problem. OK actually a problem. OK so nuff said about those more conventional models it's pretty clear why we're we'd rather have something better. So let's take a quick look at shear beam modeling the idea here is I've already said is is that we've got a plane or beam model in which line segments that are initially straight and perpendicular to the neutral axis are still straight and perpendicular star or sorry are still straight but not necessarily perpendicular and they vary from being perpendicular to this neutral axis of the beam wanted to forms by something called the shearing So this just allows for the possibility that. At the bean can shear Now I know we're not in Texas but everybody here knows what a case A D. A is so you know when you heat up a case the DIA kind of gets soft and it becomes flexible and shear because that inner core is shearing when it's when it's hard at room temperature. It's more like a Bernoulli oil or case of DIA and K. so this is one way to think about shear beams. OK Now you'll never forget that. So I've done my job here already. OK so we can describe the behavior in terms of any any two of these three quantities to transverse displacement the rotation of the cross-section. That's associated with bending the rotation of the cross-section that's due to the shear angle. We can pick any two. OK. And one of the things we know from structural mechanics is that the shear stress and therefore the shear strain actually isn't constant from what from the top to the bottom of the beam. It's actually zero at the top and bottom of the surfaces under normal circumstances. But nevertheless this model is useful and we will use it. And we can relate the sheer force to the nominal shear strain which is shear angle beta or Kappa times beta through this way and this relationship. The sheer force can also be related to the rate of change of the rotation angle due to bending. This provides a relationship between these two another relationship between these three quantities that we can use to simplify the governing equations. If we if we care to use. That I'm not going to go into dig detail I've already said this we can pick three the equations of motion for lateral equilibrium and rotational equilibrium crossed fiction so there are two equations emotional like these we can couple them together as they said by playing some games and not looking too closely at the forcing terms because now this Q. represents a lateral pressure per unit length acting on the beam it's kind of the external distributed force but now we're putting primes on its spatial derivatives. I don't want to get into that very much. We're going to usually set the right hand side to zero for what we do could be problematic. Let's leave it at that for now. So here's a version we're going to use. Here's the equation of motion for this shear beam without any damping or some familiar looking terms the mass and stiffness terms associated with the burning of the or lower beam her. An additional mass like term. That arises because we've collapse these two governing equations into one we it's useful to study the behavior of this. So we can distinguish between bending and shear dominated type behaviors from an elastic point of view and then we'll carry that forward as we look into the damping response or look at it. So as it turns out all of these terms have an even if they have spatial derivatives on the left hand side they have an even number that means this this mode shape will still work for us because we put a sign sine wave in take two derivatives we get a sine wave back out of the model equation of motion look something like that. Here's the natural frequency for mode M.. This leading factor is just the Bernoulli oil or natural frequency which essentially assumes infinite year stiffness or neglecting the the softness associated with shear and this other factor at the end is kind of a correction that takes into account the fact that it's possible to deforming shear now. And this quantity epsilon is the sheer sheer factor. It's not dimensional term I'll show you that here in a second. It's a sure parameter looks like this. But the idea here from our point of view is that if epsilon is small the effect of shear is small steps align more properly epsilon M. squared as small the shear effects are small or if epsilon M. squared M. is the most numbers large and shear relative to one. Then we say the cheer begins to be can be significant. So let's take a closer look at that not we just divided by through by the Mode One natural frequency. So we could define a mode number below which we might say the behavior from a Stephanus point of view is. Bending dominated and above which we might say that the stiffness behavior is sheer dominated. So let's just plot that out see what it looks like. So here's a plot of normalized model frequency versus mode number. I've chosen Epsilon to be one percent. So one over the square root of one percent is ten so mode ten I drew this vertical line. You said below that the modal behavior or the behavior of these modes tends to be bending dominated in above it tends to be more influenced by shear and should have pointed out in the preceding plot kind of see it here. So if you look at asymptotic values for either cases where M. is either small like one or very large compared to one you can see different asymptotic behavior so that it's in the spending dominated region. The modes frequencies generally increase with the square of the modem is a little hard to see because it's not a log scale so it looks like it's bending the wrong way with a linear mode number scale but the dotted line is a quadratic line. Above that. For high values of M. S. and tonic Li the natural frequencies begin to increase with linearly with the mode number kind of see that with this linear plot of him. So hopefully I'll take my word for that but that sorry. That mathematically that's just what I said but the key thing is that at low frequencies low mode numbers the baber can be bending dominated at higher mode numbers could be more influenced by the effect of the sheer behavior. OK I'm going to just see comment that we can look at we can take our equations of motion for the sheer. Beam ad terms said correspond to what I already described to you for the Bernoulli earlier being the motion base or mass mass proportional damping of strain based or stiffness proportional damping and add them in and see what happens. They weren't very satisfactory in the case of the Bernoulli or lower beam and they're still not satisfactory. That's that's the bottom line here. OK So combine that together. You can see what that. So this is modal damping you can kind of see how these motion based and stiffness based parameters enter here and how each of the individual factors. This is the sum of two terms of the individual factors dependent mode number. OK And we can plot it the next we see it. So this is normalized model damping versus mode number and model dates so it's normalized by the mode one damping So this turns out to be one here and. With the stiffness or strain based damping you get model damping that increases dramatically quickly with modem birds no good or and in the motion based model it decreases dramatically and again it's not acceptable for the same reason. So we went back to the equations of motion we dreamed up lots of possible damping terms a lot of them are not satisfactory. For a variety of mathematical reasons. And for in the interest of time I'm going to. Just kind of skip through this. I don't want to stare at equations all afternoon. So the idea we had said if we consider an internal sense of sheer force. So this is an internal force in the beam and we consist that we have mentioned that a viscous part of the sheer force a damping part of it might be a soda associated at the time rate of change of the shear angle and another part with the timer. Of change of the bending angle. So these are two separate knobs we might have is as damping modelers proportional to these terms we can take one spatial derivative and add those terms into the equation of motion for the lateral equilibrium of beam cross sections. That's how they look enter. We can combine the two equations into the single one. And follow the same process of looking at the equations of motion for the simply see under simply supported boundary conditions and we find that the model damping looks like this. So it's a product of two factors one involving Actually there are two terms because this term over here is one plus something. OK but we factor it this way. So there's a leading term involving this bending angle damping term viscous tamping. And the other term the sheer angle damping term. We've put put in here this way. OK so it's a way to isolate two parameters we can use this parameter and then the ratio of the two damping parameters. That's what it's saying from the point of view of this model. So there are there's a part that's associated with the shared defamation or its rate of change in a part that's associated with the bending to from Asia. So you. I mean even when we model isotropic materials we talk about the young as modulus in the sheer modulus this would be analogous with their viscous damping terms instead. So we can in this way we can kind of separate the contributions of the the bending inch and sheer viscous damping sheer terms that turns out. In this bending dominated regime or epsilon him squared is small the damping turns turns out to be dominated by this bending angle viscous damping term because the some other stuff over here is dominated by this one in this factor and a higher mode numbers epsilon M. squared much larger than one. The important term in terms term turns out to be this one. So the modal damping is proportional to the alphabets of beta. And it's like anything it's much easier to see if we plotted out. So there's a normalized model damping now on a linear scale not a log scale so we are already like this for a linear scale things are generated like crazy over a few mode numbers. Epsilon is one percent. So this line between bending dominated It's a fuzzy line really but it's around mode number ten at sea. So we. I forget what value I pick for office of feet but we're looking at the ratio now of these two parameters the sheer damping to the bending damping. No member Our goal is to to arrive at a viscous damping model that gives relatively constant modal damping over some range. So depending on what range of mode numbers you're talking about you might choose this ratio differently. If you look at a large enough number of modes even this curve comes back up. OK So mathematically. You saw that when I showed you some of the data of the day a forelady taken in Sandia had taken that they're only looking at sixty six or seven modes in terms of having experimental data for them. So if we were to pick this ratio to be something like one half. You might be very satisfied with the result right in terms of having nearly uniform little damping it's really quite good. Remarkably good. Of course this is for simply supported. Reconditioned So there are some other issues we might be. Looking forward to thinking about and just for effect. I want to plot these results against what I already showed you for this the stiffness proportional in mass proportional damping in the results I just showed you are these inner ones here. And in fact this gold line corresponds to the value of the ratio of the shear damping to bending damping of one half. OK And that's the one we like to I do have some slides that are correspond to kind of a closer look. Mathematically it under what conditions can we define a damping operator for this kind of partial differential equation of motion that will give us uniform modal damping in the end I think in the interest of time and maybe in the hope of keeping you awake a little while longer. I'm not going to go through these OK except to say that it's possible to define a stiffness operator its implementation in practice is quite difficult. I would say in challenging but we can make a connection between this damping operator and the model I've already shown you. OK this is like a a one term approximation a two term approximation of that damping operator so nuff said. Another interesting thing about this is because we all know that structural dynamics really earn their keep. In real life by running fine an element analysis we have to ask the question how would one implement this model in a fight element context and it turns out. It's not. I mean from a mathematical point of view this is just a bunch of differential equations and we can discretized them using our favorite method and structures people tend to like find it element of approaches to this but. Turns out if you take these equations this equation of motion and using a standard find it own that approach for a Bernoulli Euler beam using those. Shape functions thirty cubic shaped functions and four degrees of freedom you get matrices here's something that looks like the math matrix. It is a bass Matrix or something that looks like the standard for two noted for degree of freedom planar beam stiffness it drifts. Here to peers again. Here's a matrix that looks just like what we call the geometric stiffness matrix in structural stability analysis buckling analysis for beams under axial loads. So it has precisely of the same form with that shouldn't surprise us because the damping term has two spatial derivatives as the. The term involving the axial load has been structural stability problems sort of the stability of both coffee and columns anyway so mathematically there are a lot of familiar looking matrices here it's quite nice. There are some questions when you collapses to a single equation of motion how you deal with the forcing terms. We're not going to address this today. But having this find it I'll find it elements finite element analysis approach available to us as we're used to having and like having we're able to look at the the behavior of this model under different kinds of boundary conditions so we can look both for example and simply supported boundary conditions from a numerical point of view we can look at clap clap boundary conditions. Whatever whatever we think is appropriate for the physical problem at hand and if I think it's true for the spacecraft application that clamp clamp might be more appropriate. OK so we can look at that have a look over here so here's model damping again a familiar plot versus mode number the set of curves up on tough. Sorry let me back up here is the kind of the fuzzy line the divides bending dominated in sheer dominating behavior. The sort of curves that emanate from this point here in the left are for simply supported by under conditions. Each of the color lines course solid colored lines corresponds to a different value of this ratio of the shear to damping to bending damping parameters and the one we kind of like is this one half lease for small values small mode numbers have to say that the FIND IT element results appear is dotted lines that fall right underneath these solid lengths are right exactly. On top of the exact solution for this particular problem clamped on so at least for this problem. We haven't shown any exact solution. So here are the numerical results for clampdown recorded. Conditions you can see if our goal is to get constant modal damping over a range of mode numbers. It's going to be a little harder to achieve because the boundary conditions actually affect both the natural frequencies and the damping much more at the load numbers and they do it. The higher move numbers but these are the kinds of problems we can address with the numerical tools afforded by fine an element analysis. So we can take this just happened. Power Point but said All right well we'll get there and see. Sorry about that. I'm not used to that happening on a Mac. I'm not sure what happened. So what's sad is so. All right. So that's so let's go back to some experimental data the plot like this that I showed much earlier in the talk was a collection of results for one hundred cables. This is a collection of just thirteen cables from a single family of cables that have a lot of similarities in terms of cross-section maybe different lengths. But here's the model. Sorry not even differently. So here's the plot of modal damping versus number again the dark line corresponds to the mean of these measurements for thirteen cables. I think the single gray line is one standard deviation of the double grey region is two standard deviations and the red line is the fit we got by adjusting some of the parameters of our model. I hope you'll agree that's quite quite satisfactory and we probably could have done all right. Even setting the first one to zero. I told you there were some reasons we didn't didn't like using that but it turns out it's actually decreases with Mode number initially. So it's helpful to include it in this particular case. So the folks at F.R.L. and Sandia were delighted with this and with this result and we were happy to answer. Well let me just say at high end at a high enough mode number all the solutions grow. OK you can follow this curve out far enough in or grow back up. OK but we don't really care about what goes on there and if we're actually using a model like this is part of a larger model to do time domain transience simulations depending on how we do them if we do them with the record time simulation. We just assume those modes were highly damped anyway so it's not a bad thing to say and from a numerical point of view. OK So to kind of wrap up the main topic of this talk today was the time domain damping model for sure. Beans. With applications to spacecraft wiring harnesses some of you might have learned a little bit about the difference between shear beams and Bernoulli or other beams today hopefully for that interesting and possibly useful but a key thing it said low frequencies from a structural dynamic view the behaviors. Sort of dominated by the bending behavior at higher frequencies this year becomes more and more important and high enough frequencies to become shared dominate that holds true both for the stiffness behavior and in the stamping model for the damping behavior and from our point of view this does provide some guidance for maybe future direction digging in a little deeper into the physical mechanisms mechanisms that give rise to damping in these surprisingly complex wiring harnesses from a mechanics for the view that maybe someone will pursue if our goal as I said was frequent relatively frequency independent or uniform overall damping over a small range of load numbers was our goal we can get pretty close to that by controlling these two parameters self a beta and Alpha feet and actually control the damping in the high frequency or number regime through alpha beta. This model we hope will be useful to structural dynamicists in the future because it can be readily implemented in a finite element context and all the major cities that arise are kind of have a familiar looking structure. And we're happy with the agreement with experimental data. We're going to carry this a little bit further the Air Force's assets asked us to look at the application to it to machine beam the. Difference between a ten machine beam and a sheer beam is not much the primary difference is the inclusion of another mass term corresponding to the rotational inertia of cross sections. It can sometimes be and its effect can sometimes be as important as the effect of the shear itself that probably will not turn out to be the case and this problem. I think we'll see. And I'm happy to in the support of our sponsors it's India and the Air Force Research Lab and if you're really interested I can give you some references to look at from their work in our more recent work. So thanks very much for your attention. One. I'm in trouble. Nice piece of yours. What you did was the word exactly the way it was being noticed so I don't think I can. Say much about the first one. I'm not sure of the resemblance to a Kelvin void model hundred not sure I would have described it that way hadn't seen that before. As I heard. Basically it really is. Yeah but when you call it that you make it sound like it's an X. turtle damping force is a time derivative curvature and and we don't like talking about it that way. This is kind of an internal damping. Mechanism. The second part was I guess I don't need to back up the form of this. Well if you think of the bending angle fee is being something like dubs say what do you think of that as being like W. prime and Fi prime is like W. double prime in beta is like like Fi so they they have the same exact nature is W. double prime they now. OK You're OK then reset. Yes thought that way if I were just beta dot then it would be again a kind of an X. terminal damping force that resists sheer defamation somehow and I guess we can think about a time you probably tried that. Probably but I don't remember what the result was probably it led to pretty fast stamping once this year kicked in and I thank the server so I'm going to be one of those people who has the stuff like this all we were suddenly a fraud nodding your head. Unless the best against US vs. It was OK stirred up I said you wanted it so that let Little Debbie as your data suggest are correct. So I could questions that clearly the families of families were glad you were go to movies and Greece. Two very recently. How much of that is it's very little Certainly and the second question is if you could be it's of a different families off by a factor of two With little bit. How does that affect their bottles of trying to look at your performances as a backward two hundred workers affected really that is an excellent question. In some cases it could be very important I think I think if one were to talk about the state of strong damping modeling in aerospace structural mechanics you'd say that we're pretty ignorant would would you argue. So a lot of what people use in practice is based on their experience as a perhaps as a company or organization as well as is information that's available in the literature but a typical approach would either involve this kind of frequency domain analysis where you pick some values for this complex last factor based on your experience. You would try to be conservative. Oftentimes that might be choosing the damping to be lower than you really think it is so that the predicted response would be higher the stresses would be higher than you might really expect or hope for a factor of two in many cases would probably be pretty good but it would move to move very easily or is this a move that would go to some of the just yeah I think you're right I think you're right. Very different. Yeah I think you're right I was a very good observation I think you could as well even That's because you are trying to measure what amount to small quantities. It is these are actually difficult measurements to make. As well. So part of it could be due to experimental uncertainty at least if not err. You know. Yes sir. Well I didn't say that exactly but you could think about that them that way. Yes those are great questions. It turns out the material scientists know a lot more about material damping than aerospace structural dynamicists So there is some knowledge about that and material scientists can actually use these kinds of measurements of dynamic behavior of material specimens to do to deduce things about the material structure at a very fine scale but that kind of knowledge has not really proven that useful for designing Aerospace Materials. Maybe with one if one or two exceptions that I can think of I mean if if if if you were a practicing structural dynamicists in industry and as often happens you discover that you have a dynamic response problem after you've already built a vehicle. And your boss is OK we've got to fix this. Now there are some solutions for and at what I would call additive damping treatments you might call them nonstructural additive damping treatments that are typically that typically involve the use of polymers and have high damping and in their simplest are incarnation they look something like scotch tape is kind of a soft polymer with a stiff backing on it. These are called constrained layer damping treatments. But these polymers are designed to have high damping in a certain temperature operating temperature and frequency range and they can be fairly effective if you know what you're doing as far as the design where to put them on the structure how much of it to put there. I've talked I am not quite sure I've addressed your question but to try to hit. But but I don't think of these these damping these properties as being material properties in the same way that I think a shear modulus and the Youngs modulus their material properties. You might be able to go to the lab and measure something and do a fit but I don't think they're good models of which what's actually happening from a dissipative point of view within the material a good model a good model might a structural material and they might be good and some materials reaction have viscous behavior like a fluid but there are there are more complicated material models fiscal elastic models that are time dependent have built in time dependence that are pretty good in that we can use instructional dynamics analysis we just usually don't use or yes really in terms of their mechanics. They're wired. You know I haven't really thought about that. That's very interesting but I've answered your question with I saying wow. We never thought about death. So you have a time to put in a normal force between the wires which would affect friction and so on. Yeah so. So there might be you know civil engineers probably. We haven't dug very far into a more fundamental mechanics type model but it wouldn't surprise me to know that civil engineers who built cables supported bridges understand those kinds of well not even those kinds but the mechanics of cable supported structures better than I do. Actually is that one of the beda beda pride I might have maybe what you assume I know it was OK and that you're doing it. If you don't you feel their forces because if U.S. forces indicate there will not be perceptible Yeah they're right and if so their intention the normal force is so high there can't be any relative motion would have been very close and you would expect it anyway. Only you know they cannot actually move and then push it off. That is to walk a little slow actually put close but it was only that you will see these are not load bearing to the best of my knowledge of body depth at even too low might be that it's just the movement but I think that's right. Very very interesting problem for such a simple structure. Yeah. Yes ma'am. But once they realized that they tightened up the process pretty significantly. Well let me be clear I didn't do the experiments those for the folks at the Earth probably see a say but I think you put your finger on something very important from their point of view as they needed better uniformity in the manufacturing process and they didn't realize it. You know at least that they had any hope of predicting the dynamic response. More accurately based.