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Well I think that was one of the burthen reasons that I moved here I was culturally Ling already spinning we say that you belong to where you did your high school but where you were born know where you did your high school and where I want to share with you our work. Were I would research our our dreams also and working in these two categories that I very simplistically synthesize for the legs here to be very pedagogical would be in some beans and some stones but no I did a big bang big bang is that moment where there are mass these places and the gravity remains. And we are challenging everything that we think we know and its being very creative as a process. So these beams are most probably that we were built mostly with pre-stressed concrete a T.V. on the we like to go see if its efficiency in St. A level thirty three. This is synthesized structure but is very efficient and gives its form. By a let's say engineering rather than something that is the size. So we would like this brain that petitions so we start always reusing in different contexts the same way. In this installation you me and Ali. We wanted to challenge and through to to provoke the existing space of the US and I live with this incision this cross trying to turn the space upside down where the vertical of the of the columns were imposing it's between we created a living being where the space is linear we made this cross incision. Be and the result is the dialogue the encounter of these two structures. Even though you say some very limited balancing act again I can't believe are stacked again. That was done with these three percent vision of these two beams. Gave a glance over the palette of our material world in this case that restores concrete and also destroyed the food mockup the program we were organizing but foremost we wanted to express our interest in the principle substance of our belief in architect to the idea that gravity. So the these let's say be three and principles are still person in our. In our interpretation or for technical space. We even created these beast will again and either know so little bit of structures and all that these we call ops unless we hung it and nobody felt peace with the hunger of there we didn't hide it on the contrary. Everyone came here and parrots the spring to feel the gravity that was exciting. What we wanted these did was something that. Gave in the exhibition a mission of something that we've built before in the real world. The mythical being a house a balancing act based in the geometry of a spiral not with the form of a spiral each of these beings have to turn to the previews one. To acquire the balance and this space is that result of these that are real persons who fabricated almost as have robotic logic as a script or they're all the same bleep and the material hides all these stress. I love this photograph because shows the effort. These inside the core of our being because the exterior is just a form that we might like it because it looks like a cork nice like a classical cornice but it's based in how to optimize mechanical efficiency. So we did all the engineering. We did it ourselves. It was an amazing experience of how to put together all of these there and some of these parts these pieces these heavy beams to create the structure that on the end was providing a very very light space are an enormous paradox of these beams they wave around fifty tons and create these structurally did it already there was stopped by the presence of that strong twenty tons of granite that was the counterbalance of these last beam that country leaders fifty percent of its length stiff enough to read it. Calibrate everything and their representation of the good of it at the core mission of the house after this. The job was done we just needed to. In closing with. We're thinking glass. You've come forth standards but we still believe that was the structural presence what gave this soldier. And primary condition of their space over the space and I suppose the. Light and the hug peace masing collusion between this through this of their pens. I think Tony called traces of the structure that somehow was framing without enclosing enough rain. Or the outside landscape creating a very special relationship of the inside on the outside. So the house is a statement of our of a particular space research of how to make a nice December for house in this case and how all these parts can be put together in a prefabrication logic that now we are pushing further in our research. I want to show these video that shows how in a summer studio. We think in the office and we construct in the outside world using the sane and logic. Through the game of gravity the game off without the presence of off structure in this case. We had to transform our slaughterhouse in for media taking mother to this slaughter house is totally protected by code. What is a challenge. We could do anything inside but I thought the restoration. So I would further the worst to transform these two parlor like sibling. Warehouses into a single space. So we decided that the times were some of the of these structure the wedding Post today primary space could create that dissonance that the challenges that we were talking a we live in has been at least the sings. In this case inserting a new structure over an existing structure is not transforming the previous one. We left it intact. Is just a violent intermission of a new structure to create not dialogue to impose the dialogue between the two. So all we're challenge was how to introduce. That structure inside without touching the building so we invented this machine that was like a train that conducted the bridge beam into the windows and this way we demonstrated the structure we were inserting was part of there. It's a movable interior of the building only was like a furnishing I think and heavy furnishings. But it worked and we discovered at least two structures were having a very intense dialogue the fragility of these vertical columns are supposed to the tension of that bridge was participating in the same balance they were really operating as the upsurge structure of that architectonic of space even though these two mechanical systems were not connected this structure. Gives not only order to space but a mechanical transmission of the Worlds but both missions are so important. So we were able with this action to to really transform the space and not connect the both mechanical systems because they are different families know the think concrete. Beings that crossover within different deal of the over existing warehouses. So this is part of the memorandum of our of our practice know how. Structure thus become essential part of architectonic of space and space is the concept one of the result and of these structures and paying me. The time on the end and it's moving right now rests a dream or if a new program a new function but only end is there. We sold tons of these these insertion of these intermission that I said before. So should these video that shows these. This is some most of the money. I want to go to on the other side of our practice and we call it the storms just those are the buildings that are related to a place where they are settled. They are part of it and they use all that person and some of that place to tour to to be part of it. So I want to start with this house it's called the truffle you want to settle in these beautiful color nice North Atlantic coast of Spain. You have to make it the interpretation of that beautiful landscape not trying to make something interest score him and thinks no just in understanding what nature he's offering an interesting song rules. Sometimes we the artists try to impose our rules over the nature but our proposal was to sue due to what nature was imposing and. We interpreted that beauty that is part of it and we use the covered in a cell reference not to some other things of its came to but to use it. Not us on a sculpture a project we wanted these to be architects are these what is the plan. The governor just to give you. Our side of the plane of the traffic has been a bathroom area place to sleep chimney. So it's a fully equipped little space. So what we did was to use everything or what's available over there. First of all we removed and clean this site. Creating like a hole. Of vegetable soil branches everything with air was there inserted high bales and giving that stacking architectonic an order given by the model how did the of these hybrids and we catch that spacing between them and I say we cast it means that this is me. This is how we are meant. This is a kind of we did it with our hands. I mean that was a real committee experience with comedy with nature we enjoy it so much and we think this is where some kind of prefabricated story is not architecture from all these turtle nice of the same curse that meter. And after we started making actions over it like chopping things carving. We have to remove all this soil that was completely purser personalized by day weight of that concrete. So we again try to make a connection a political connection of the life cycle snow there a picture somehow connects our lives with everything different natures that surrounds us so we cut that from our neighbor. And invite the new mother to not be done space to use it to take time and part of that sort of. And left and concrete alone. No help. Treating it was full of dirty imagine cold living there for a year at least here in concrete was amazing. Stinky space beautiful suppressive natural and we created when we clearly were amazed that we discovered all these beautiful principles Hey beers all the pretty fired Lin Wood was out and extraordinary My theory of metaphor of this scene I was facing that space. No very subtle nature of it. Not really worth exposed to just something for a certain gravity well these different realities were there. In a single cast exterior bus emulating their geology colored natural formation. It was fully integrated in the landscape. It was part of it and the truffle really used nature to conduct its form and we did not. Organize these three or there's not a lot of friends and critics ask me this is our interpretation of the article or their own class isn't. The answer is that this is this is the thing we were casting nonstop. And we start the woman some time operate it. And yeah this is the uncertainty of constructing what inspired us so much this vision of the whole reason as the only straight line in our space everything is Rinko discourse. It's not coming from you. So he says earth is sort of it's a stone. You know. Eleven will get upset a little. Will let us let us. Let let let let let let let let let. Thank you. I mean we move. Move move move move move move move. When we did this project we really didn't know what we were doing come down but I think it was I think I thought something here better. It was kind of a prototype for a larger version of Khamenei kind of church that was going to be building by the end. With back to the OR did you know space radio combination off hand light here and not there. So we had like that. Yeah a lack of reference I saw no posse shown to the most developed people A-G. in history of architecture any of our church. We have had two thousand years off you know variation. So we wanted these. Unfinished stone where the wrinkles of it are all material and these libration of the lines. Yeah. Challenge us again the presence of a plain us and I think any kind of structure. I mean the interior of a very yeah shaped sculpted neutron. Yeah stone like an unfinished stone. So the first projects this is actually the first project that we built Mr excluding Alethia was our very compact cube running with ground I sometimes a lot of students ask me why my. An appetite for my last stone I mean I always say that life drove us to something workable Spiller Alethia where there are night. He's the base material for everything. So it was a discovery. It's nothing that intellectually was a person but you live you discover what you like who you are or where you want to be so finally we discover that these may seem interpretations of stone where gringos of the stone creates the difference. It did the former small the the shadows. There's some of the truffle it's called there are some of the means dark shadows of the shadows really are those that create the contrast of the feet of snow. It's not just the form. It's the materiality So we've wanted to build the stone but in the counter way we love the idea of making things wrong. And we've invited their owner to to who is this guy who are to do you know we're building everything that he had fight that all his life. They were united these wrinkles mean pewter textures. We wanted of that was hard to convince but after he came he lost a dear or fusing these very primitive combination of. A feeling that it the with highly technological connections of those stones. As the main structure and in the interior three D. line appears on the neutral light very abstract silence space aside a position to the exterior that has to deal with the atmosphere with air with a climate with a beautiful. I don't think. Landscape and put it close to this music school we had a pretty unity to build another project. These people wanted to experience and to work with. The mystery of gravity and time and it was part of the boundary of a big plot. Where the first music school was located so we wanted these building not to be a building to be part of the war. So we built them with walls a stone wall that faces the historical center a glass wall that faces the back of the modern city. And this two part of the World War was. Terms like in an arrow and a bow with a very old Morse if women are more synthetic of material and matter we build with with light. So the strong wall of the stones was built in the quarry. In a really primitive way we need these fabrication tools. We encountered all these abandoned stones on some tons and tons of stones are abundant in the quarry because they do not fit and we love them. We just need a category. We spend fourteen months living in the quarry that's a tough working environment. Believe me. And he started playing with these. Machines trying to make these balance these beat it's compas like these big stones give the beat and we operate with that would be that particular balancing between With that we need to match. Step six and statics it's almost an improvised Jass where you know the rules. You know the beat you know where you want to write but you have to improvise. You have to take these materials. You have to draw them very quickly find the center of gravity. So these guys who have nothing to do with architecture where they can put from the chain and find the place find a location of these storms and worse amazing experience. We started to building a mock up and we ended building the full structure the owner of the quarry wanted to keep it. He loved it and I did also worse completely surreal to have the most probably the I've got every story thing going through my voice. And after we had to find a way to transport this and to put it on site to rebuild it. So we demolished it and we found that it was so we see now to put the stone the placing that they had already find their place their position like that the life stones were having these gallery I said classical Portie called St The materiality of the world. Express the differences and field of different lights this is chunks of of light. The result of chunks of stone. And these synthetic oil that we build stacking five hundred CD cases memorial to the digits. Formant this building was for composers and cinema producer so all these wall. I don't see you again before a library. Yeah Salumi Nair isolating device was the position in terms of material if you do this but they both effect that speech only. They both condition the rest of the spacing between these differences and all these wrinkled concrete wall in the basement with it like a brass if other German light. That's one hundred sawn structure strong. I think ality the space between these walls was the result. And we still are still there. We just build we call it the stone I will be in Mexico. The sun stone. Because we want these thrown to reproduce and amazing mixture of light and gravity. That's what architecture is about it's an S.P.V. to a mix of the substances. But these probably worse to be constructed in the middle of these urbanist the mass go corporate master plan. He used the scene. So we did not belong to that we wanted to really hide the guts of the through line and then create the video obstructs silent in this than safe public space. So we made a hole and we took twenty five meters on the ground. But he said on first the way to resist earth. Quakes. If you are part of it. There's no problem. And we just wanted to revisit that presence that Westbury underground with this very symbolic lake about the keno I can see the look structure that needs its form to the movement of air light gravity but the end in was a very rigid and stiff by that action and structure that had all that movement. And was covering open air. These set of platforms as public glasses the program is your style theater with officers of the theater and system of lobbies complain that helix again in this case digging underground and surrounding the black box over the gravity of that negative space are struck that through the earth their breasts are made with a likeness of their recent Philip the of the whale. Where again the persons of gravity was negated by the form like cutting at these in their ancient Rome. These columns transmit gravity but do not represent the transmission so they are somehow hiding the mission and therefore So here you can see the profound hole in the Ground Zero the core of the excavated war that we were creating. Amazing techniques to create a world twenty five meters deep. And this is the model of the way here we wanted the structure to have its song like not isolating device a skylight. No we wanted like to have a song proper light and react with the natural atmospheric conditions of light and with somebody mathematical object. That gives. An extraordinary You don't need to it's one hundred one hundred tons of weight but again but I don't think only creates a very very light space so breaking all our produce we like to test this structure to ours so we build it first in our safe laboratory and after when it works. We don't think so because the model that we did to study the reassembly of the structure all the cards at all those with the blades should have we thought about these are some amazing hyper technological fabricated structure but the ending makes it could be viewed by hand that it worked perfectly. So this is the place like our lab. Where we started cutting. And building. First of all were these elements on some of the structure was getting stiff and together and solid there. We removed all those points and left over ground the structure in charge even mechanics and this was an amazing experience to build all these huge proof of this scale and after transported them reassembly them side and understand these even an unstable balance between the profound gravity of that that comes from the earth and we're like yes of these upper structure. But these bottle of orbit and conflicts no idea of this huge form fifty meters and this is small kind of the battle between space and probably. Definitively is one race pace the connection or even to our perception Our see quality or fight the clinical species much intimacy the connection we have before the Florida. News became their last invited guest to these jurors on party noise like the tyranny of the cake and. The thought of the. OK I want to end the problem with what we're doing now we have not yet any of these projects but we hope in the next decade we might go through all these you have to plan if you keep at it and this is our next decade. We're starting right now we're interested in these big bang. When you start anything and you displace the masses the center of gravity remains I mean the other action architectonic in space. Of course. So I made this provision for China trying to negate architecture. I said This simply means negate architecture forget about bipolar Gee forget about the main energy slight you know air. No entrance. No form just reaction of stacking mass. So we did all these models we made this interim mission with a webcam inside to see what the was going on inside and what quailed and in the failure we discover these amazing spaces. They're trying to negate the existence of space we discover the new space we discovered that the sneaks of light here by their very irregularities of all of these big stones. Ross where result on top of their structure was there the soul of the space. So that gave us. The tips and then the energy to continue experiencing the sister I think so. We we actually build all these blocks like huge want to live as of synthesized policemen in blocks catch that we can on a concrete. To reproduce send wave without having the mass and start them in these positions based just in the logic of our place and of of of our complimentary. Probably was not finally build and therefore there be a knowledge but we are waiting for a better opportunity. And this is another problem that we have in China where we decide not these products really science or beautiful have to say. Well our Rusty must die in the center. But the fish and dance unique. Color. Double country petal disposition of the plates. And our client project had the project saying that it was too prevalent in this beautiful interpretation from anything a building that I never understood but nevertheless we said OK. We don't like a highly concentrated and stiff nucleus. We're going to explode. So this is the classical core and sure when you see an American Tower. Steen. International. Bid develop these stand out so what we are starting now is how to break into chunks how to exploit that nucleus like a big bang. So we made these two moments of this expansion. Personal first hard. There's no evolution is just the structure. So we were hesitating. If this or this so we did both. So this is the theme. Now we're going to study the variations. I loved the idea of having this like very intuitive approach took a picture. Not us. It is the sign process not just pure intuition just shaping modeling cutting the space. Opening this core liberating the space to penetrate within the interstices of this mass but here we have several projects already know this by their class one uncertainty of where do you locate all those so we just pick one and we did the mother with a very standard principles and parts columns beans and slabs. Those are the three main elements that we use Brewster's concrete that is a very efficient materials he said before. And give us the pipe probably to span. Street light structures. So this was the process of doing the model. Before we did the project and after we do the mother and even though these lines are not shown but I like it this way just for those parts are floating into space and the section also shows that variability that likeness. This is the structure but create different platforms were other building Scooter be located to the story buildings four story building. So we just wanted to create the Beatles. Space in terms of real estate could be very successful because the developer just builds the structure and relieves the rest. That's more or less two thirds of the investment to the final user so we're somehow multiplying constructable ground but on the end our infrastructure the science hosts intensity of the space and we discover that these are when the infrastructure a revision of high rise. Ross really interesting. We want to continue that the presence of those course in the middle of the power were part of that but I now make space. The second tower the B. and B. vision. This is the chunks are smaller and the almost invade the limit. They absolutely need it doesn't mean that it's our first start but is there the broader the boundary that we've created. Separated themselves so much that they are not stable so we needed to establish them with ten source. And the beams have to spend only the read more we were talking about a standard the mission fifty fourth. This is the start of printer for highrise and again we did the mother do it and we discovered how really there was at the far side what a plane was created. It's incredible how different these two powers were but do they are made with the same material the same elements the same strategy the Semite the. But the speed was completely different here. The plane was the one the before and the race from the first forcing the printing and so we're very interested now in reusing the same material to persist concrete in these two new toy. I wonder when we add that to an expression of these into urban scape this is a research for that we did with the pop up trying to follow the same logic of the big bang into an absolute again a power now into our country. An exercise of the development of our compass. I would come person in my house some spaces still to be developed and spaces to be discovered. So I'm good to go quick through this because you kind of see it but then I took this passion of how a compass is not from the ground to the camp but to be here to believe that the fifty first century urbanism will have to do with the Comcast of the year not the ground the ground. We needed for other purposes rely. Good for parks for agriculture for mental resources but the air some abstract substance that we can manipulate so we did these two projects this line is an online compass and we love this metaphor online and this is an addition for traditional compass. But all these revised with the prediction of what infrastructure is infrastructure holds architecture. This is an old vision of infrastructure something I see in frights wonder is he that we don't like it or are these to reveal these infrastructure the same way that in the starting of the twentieth century this torture works reviewed the level of Duke. Yeah a fair because we see here these these guys review this structure as part of the architecture. We are in this thing revealing the infrastructure as a beauty. That he says that yes he did you know where their city guards. I don't think you could be either what he's supposed to over or just something that complete thing for structure in this case he signed the frame very upset efficient. We can easily of holding objects in this case two story buildings these was really utilizing recycling an old infrastructure old rail for truck a train that cuts the compass into New York with that big U.S. policy between what's a wall. What's a high price and the other project fabricates parcels like flying carpets where other belief. As have OK So I mean these worse the way you have read everything that in a clinical program layer not brands and stack it's in a very flexible disposition of could be changeable. But could be really interesting to go within the. Different moment something comes dancers and drop it changes that they're going to go through. The basic unit is the drawing the door but they're open to a big infrastructural corridor where everything happens there's no rooms. There's no same you know the snow gradients of intimacy the intimate space. The sheer digital window. The working mezzanine but everything is clustering the same bubble. So deficiency of these online but got a compass was enormous and we did not decide the year we did copy paste it over the infrastructure. It's not about. Our proposal was to create those mainframes that means beads of the of the of the building and insert other architectures inside but always move the scale of the infrastructure pieces the mention of these key building had one kilometer because the scale of a bridge. Nobody says the bridges speaker is a bridge has its own scale. So these images reveal how imposing the infrastructure always is in our cities but when we really their peers have something like magic or. Has a completely different scale even though the compass on the beat is older than like architecture but it has its own set of rules. So much of the rules that we did in the east part where we said that infrastructure was going to grew. But the golly we were going to respect every single existing building we could spread all those nucleus us within the place like in the towers that are located these two sites and connect the principle of infrastructure it's going to be traditional city has a highly connected infrastructure. He didn't underground an independent buildings in this case were understood that. The city of contemporary city needs no buildings its infrastructure and space and that's what we proposed a full set of infrastructure connections but we're creating space. And the space was hosting other schemes spaces like in this poppy drawing worse are sort of buildings independent but. The ending was not buildings they were just enclosures of these space in several scares not always stacking and connecting viscerally the earth the landscape the panoramic views of Boston in this case or Cambridge and sharing infrastructure sharing the course sharing the beams sharing the elevators. Sharing everything really builds beings do not share anything they want to be distinct piskies we understood that the vertical infrastructure could provide that shear and very efficient on economical system of course and create that amazing elevated class as public. Claims of could be that everything freed me is more solid research workshop that we did in even now in my view in this case because I were spacing MIT was not ready yet but they want to share that last video concept well approach to an urban problem could be due but also with the same. Yeah they do the same tools the same options. But a tower or hubs there's no big difference when you deal with urban problems or the mastic besides So these images show how the combination of these vertical infrastructure appears you know in their conservative converts must use its great persons but the transponder you see and the likeness. I think for structural mood. If it's extracted from the earth and persuaded resort because these pretty big cloud. I invited my son of the hunger to draw a crowd and he drew these amazing sketch. Cloudbase the pension scene lines so worse like I thought that he's under under under tension. I can bring storm. So it's a clue. Ily ily. I've I've I've I've I've relied on me in Iraq. Listen. Thanks Lynn thank you Lynn. Thank you live live live live. Thank you very much. There are any questions I would be happy. Well it's part of our culture today. And the video is the only format dying all of that put together. With the film media and also you can tell a story behind me. Approaching this whole story. And we'd like to make videos. Our Were were. I do not try to bring order to the world but. I think chaos and its different difficult world were. In architecture. I prefer uncertainty. Because of the certainty is. The name of the architect. That means. Everything you never know what's going to happen in between the project and process the core structure inside and it's impossible to plan if you create this impossible to visualize all of their income sponsors that go with you because you do a project takes so much time. So you have to have the vision. You have to have orders. And after that you have to surf you know in some uncertainty about chaos. It's about being able to understand all these tensions that happen. Not just the same tensions the sign these I would say irrelevant. You know this process. The difficulty is to understand everything that surrounds there this time product and generally it's out of the office it's open for so you have to be just prepared and very very secure of what you want and have patience and if you have money that helps. Well you know there's always a hidden story. I'm not going to tell but yes of course and by me gating something your strength thing another. I had a need for conversation with one of my engineers. Yeah we were having rings and I told him that I've never been to a column on my life because I don't like columns not because I don't like columns. I don't like maybe for that column. For presenting the first Mission of Gravity by itself. I like that the flow of the energy of gravity that is there would be made substance of their space. Yeah I want to get that millipede to them and they call them really. Rocks eating into the earth. OK When you see a color you see that something's going on there. So yes I prefer to live in for those I prefer beams. I prefer they be their own data action or transmission of gravity but I have to confess that the product in math. And I love those columns. It took me fifteen years to write to them but what eight columns like me is in the border because I started the project I said research pretty when I was a fellow in Rome was started. I saw how was it there for a group or was it been there for abundance so I I decided that structure in the party or Philip Markoff of probably no close to be needed vision of the last storm system that was missing in the pantheon then I believe I was the developer of the path so that there with eight columns. I still was fascinated by him years and years was really missing my life and where we did in Mexico was three hundred eight columns and I were suffering so much until this census added extra stress to the process the client to write this eight words we have these columns why don't we put a facade. There was the end of the project you know so suddenly something happened in the unconscious but he is was finally Barry. And I got to read of him for ever. And I went back to the principal's room to the carrier to needs to learn these these sculptured columns the military precision the gravity. So I. I hate that I hide there. The gravity within the four and I think the worst part of my education I was integrated in a school by the. That was kind of keeping We had no books. We had no it's a discipline. We were taught to to always ask why you know and I think that's why I have a lot of problems in my first record because years. To me ten years to graduate. I was always asking why we do the professor don't like the meeting first time. Sometimes you know and but on the end when I got into practice. I was really attracted like uncontrollable the seller to do things they're wrong there. He's quite remember that I showed you the picture is one of the most inspiring man that I found I worked with him for years he was just the true genius no no no it's no with the creation no nothing worse. I think Stone all his life. I remember once we were building the wall and people who are going to say and you know building a wall correctly built can be done by anyone but the wrong one. No. I really love you say the off turning upside down there started there. It's and discover what's going on by observation sometimes on failure. So what the fate of their products they are not showing. But yeah. If something is super That's as you see as that. And as complicated get this all. Press or if something. Usually is formed by Steve Bould I very freedom from the mold and leave the concrete to express itself and the yeah you could I mean with the fate of the lot. We've I will enjoy it for you. I mean really it's kind of risky. When you're living in there in there and I have been world but it's very clear that if you can control it on the end of the control. It's only precious as you said if you. If you are disciplined priest. Yes Then you can control these uncertain things that happen that you heard you don't know what the mother leaves you still about all that is suppressed first concrete the mother is not my state not. You know it's possible it's possible here but now we are interested in you because of the size of the buildings because we're interested in in their building that is just the pure structures just stocking I order some of those thief plains where other buildings would be settled. And we're interested in these new waiver of read the British and refining for structural parts and we hope to be able to control the delinquency of the detail of the tonics of the bulk of the tonics. It's not Steve still here we have we we we have not done of our project in steel with their breathing method go. I would say it was not steel. It's the most another thing even though it was made with steel plates but for us it was always a story we should not forget that these I mean are we not me. Of course hopefully did not have the picture tonics of but same thing construction. Do you know I mean a C N N point of view. Yeah this is a very let's say emerging idea. So we we might change. We are now. And I have not shown the least yet because it's not mature enough but we are very very excited with a potential client in. Time now and we are going to revise everything that we've constructed with with choice like it like in the truffle we are doing. I started you know it's amazing. Exciting. It's about dealing with the uncertainty. We cast huge resound the Lindows over Earth to ferment and after we provoke an erosion. We like speed up time we remove the substance that holds that Star Trek. So somehow we are stressing the mass the mass was born to compression no stress but after we started by removing the he said about so we'd like these semen tiniest to life over the mechanics of the structure and the space that we would find we have not seen him out there. We are so we could do we have all of the end the Arctic is basically no sessions that you work all the time so we have these two bipolar or sessions in the earth and this is his this is the truffle in the middle scorpion other Tunisian part of because of this work there but towards another these groups change or in this case or three times but obviously these of the two main if you see these big bang and it's congregate of these two worlds. We're still working on. The stuff in this is slightly so you see it's like we're serious you're not you're popular. No you should watch it I will sit in Netflix because you could probably get it here today because there are you so very nice people here. One of which is something Asperger's and really the horses and almost like them and good horses that are pushing you are a really what's going on here. And so where are these companies that I'm so used to you're really seeing sort of this is a way to sort of I was in the first chapter tonight. Now to carry on with the shooting on the on the architectural record you were a young man you know we were coming. And yeah we love the person and they should because we have we. It's part of our job to talk to share with our story and it's calling the country of war because from the end I think there's a cultural world and we like it or not like a picture. It's not presented any Maureen. So our books are in. Form of the law because we were trained with them but now we have another based think culture. And idea I think there was an amazing tool tool to prove present. I think twenty three idea. I like this conversation that we have here really works.