There's going to be one more come to Dr. Thank you very much and that's. Really the premise to be with this group and. For. The students. When I looked at my topic head when I said this is lessons for my six careers I thought maybe I better give a subtopic concert where I thought I can't keep a job if I was so it's not my career was. The group. That I found disagreement between Wesson zero. And good leadership to produce success and person so we might be talking about the lessons that we can but I would move to new leadership skills that will make a business a success. And I think a. Successful career is dependent on winning good use of leadership skills so that you can take advantage of opportunities when they occur. There's no substitute I think experience. Working family with a good leader and being a good leader yourself your family will be some good times and some bad times which will inform both of them. I think hundred Munsters a critical success factors in leadership where Private any business whether it's a technology business whether it's a retail business. It really what is the market. So that whatever career you pursue pursuit. The result is going to be dependent on how you respond to competitive opportunities and these are the competitive opportunities. The. Experience throughout your career it may not be totally politically correct to say competitive opportunities but I think that there is a competitive place you have to have a competitive opportunity as a student going to Georgia Ted I met with about twenty thousand almost applicants this year and I think only about twenty five hundred of them. I've just met but I actually don't so that's a competitor thing is if you're. Absolutely it's a competitive thing to make the course and that's letting us know if you're going for a Japanese competitor with to get the job and on and on. So most of the time and if the competitive. Opportunities and counted work something's not planned in some land range plan I think that's another in a sort of truism that. What you're going to do is be on the lookout for the opportunities and be ready to take advantage of them but when you graduate from high school I don't think you can see the man for the next twenty years he was my player and here the opportunities I'm going to see. I used to say I have a career saying I fand it's six my first long I came to Joy to take as I said to a play football I don't claim to be an engineer but I think a little bit of a black sheep in my family and being an engineer my dad was a kind of professor and. My grandfather once I was a medical doctor on the other side a Presbyterian minister welcome so my mother sat back and so here I am coming in and being internet web so I came to face up on my plan for Coach Bobby that and then I think that was a really good choice. My second clue is in the Air Force is there for Sam for a sec. It's really really was nice to hear Georgia Tech after the Air Force I wept with into the experiment station which the predecessor to to island with were kept with the rector there and then the third and fifth crew was a really the winds of over thirty euros which I was in the telecom industry with high tech with an east coast medium size they like Scientific Atlanta and well written language West Coast company like Cisco Systems different cultures different approaches and my friend bought a couple who was with me and for many years it sang to me when I would say that there were totally different cultures seventy five books. I. Am going to name them. The little bit of any truth in his career was I want to tell you to simulate. The telecom industry which scientific the latter group. And which was an executive in for about thirty five years. With about Plavix and systems and solutions to news a big telecom companies anything to listen to more contacts Comcast cable Lucian in Canada radio trying to do this and even sometimes in the U.K. It was religion. And some of the stomach com companies which are sometimes called service providers because what they're doing is they're providing services to consumers. But that eventually went into what was kind of the the blender giving television service high speed data service and better service it started with T.V. but then grew to be the triple battle and. And that's what really grew the business. Center here when it is. Tired of Cisco Systems and they're still doing the same. Kind of lines but they're ending to it now because Sam. What they're looking that is all the applications are there well use of getting the recently revenue from subscribers you're paying a subscription fee every month and you get your television you can get on demand services you can get your high speed you can get your voice on together what they're looking for other things like security when an applications if they can do is where. This is a really nice sign to me right got started I mean you get a little bit of a summer a stampede let anybody know we're still going to that. When the spam really hits but one hundred bucks a piece imagine fifty one but they had one more guy. Who invented Glenn Robinson who was up working at Oak Ridge as a physicist for the government and the nuclear program and I said if you put them in a hundred and I said will it you be saying you know. And that's Sandy really that stand and then the course of the game is an instrument company the first patent for scientifically it was actually designed and the predecessor G.T. that it was a part of a career for antenna patterns and that was the first commercial product for some time to. My family moved into a satellite communications and then into cable television and of course started with just a few and channels it was primarily of getting television if you didn't move in the metropolitan where you could get anywhere so that put a really big time was implemented on top of it and put it. That there were friends and neighbors so that you could get them for their programming for good just the regular channels. But in the mean time in seven days. There was a story. Where this same type who was chairman and say you are assigned to get lined up and this was the C.E.O. or senior American that makes communication satellites and Jim if it was a senior home Home Box Office H.B.O. and they got together and said look this is pretty stupid what we're doing right now is there a Bassett doing it just takes around with the news. About South as a sphere and sometimes I get lost in the mail sometimes it wouldn't get there on schedule and say we said let's move a satellite cable connection and so we said something right we'll put it or station to receive the satellite signal with every cable and it's never said Rupert had the programming and actually said we'll put the satellite up for it and that was the satellite cable connection that story was within getting programming that you couldn't get in the city and then understand it with that. This new U.S. premium Showtime did the same sort of thing they would put their signals up and then that was what caused the growth of the kill industry. I mean to tell you a couple of states is a this time. In the mid seventy's Ted Turner came to us and said. You a chance television station and a radical channel seventeen and point I'm going to do this I want to have a super station I want you to make a satellite uplink because it just as they see it JUST LOOK AT IT companies to have uplinks and you don't have to be kind and caring and then I'm going to send it to I mean he's. OK with that answer tonight is has been for. Me and that will be a super section. We've been most of our working state you know pre-show at this and back into we have been with me and so we so we're going to news we're going to news we're we're prepared to spend to put together a contract and do the details of this and he said Now you make it they will accept it. And he said there's a down payment check don't cash it the next week and. That's to say that he then came to us in the early one nine hundred eighty S. I got to say right there about this little progressive club of one tenth Street which is this man a connector and what I would do is I want to have a satellite dish pointed it and percent right in the sky so that I can get news from anywhere in the world any time. And whether it's We'll have a twenty four hour news station we say will tell you that I think everybody watches news at six and eleven they want to Cronkite into Let me break through and whoever else is that people are really going to write a story for our news and that we're going to do it with a way if you want to do it and you want to pay for it that's great so if you don't have to keep them and you look at the rise you assume good times many antennas there but that was C.N.N. And so I guess when you listen you could say From this it was initially innovation can trump everything and it certainly did it because that was what many of the cable industry because if you look at Sam took a lot of when I joined the company they will say that's worth thirty billion dollars when we were acquired by sand center and I was acquired by Cisco thing assess what three point one billion dollars and they paid six point nine billion dollars for scientific lab so it was a pretty good run right Michel. Some of them were bad hundreds was OK change was you get on demand to you know by the way we've got some engineering going to use for and building on the bit here on the bed and. Yes we were the first couple going to have a hard time about what the viewers and the record Program gladsome meant to megabit asked me to say we're doing that. And then many other services optics and even a picture of the home is rising. And this is really a dramatic. Change in technology so it looks so good that at that time that's when it didn't take time for missing got in the business because I thought it was a another market that they could come and take so many less a minute lesson. Competition catches up with you and can punish you if you don't keep innovating. And I have to tell you I was going to the presentation to the Saturday Lavabit about ID programming and no one of the director said they were saying who said well you keep doing this I mean when are you going to finish the war and I said you know unfortunately or fortunately I don't think we'll ever finish and so long as we're in business. The solution that providing man when I think this was a time when I mean we were actually is the families he come to that anywhere to any device any time the feeling is so you have a gateway really to the home when you can put it on your piece and your T.V. your smartphone your laptop precision. But any kind to hit any time to any device. And I tell you this has gotten so complicated man with that I mean several things with Google and Facebook and Twitter and when. I said that for like me who when I played it. It was black and white television to have joined with you when I played in the first game there was clearly television there with national T.V.. And. That's OK back it was man with you don't remember when you. But to him I said I'm doing kidney transplants are doing liver transplants heart transplant I'm going to go after your medical school and see if I quit playing transplants and keep up with all this is going on and something we can't and I say. Never think you can you know now we sent by the pound I sent you say a better plan to show it so here are some clips and it's one hundred dollars a pound. He was going to take that's happened and I was a POW and his University of Georgia goodness twenty five hundred dollars a pound I said I can surely soon find takers you know fan of times Clemson but Georgia so well it's almost like new it's hardly ever been news. And you know how many joint agreements it takes to make a pound a boy. Have. Been checking to see if you know it's a tradition and to mention by the trustees December meeting Banderas it was a huge huge joke. From the clips and that was never I mean I've been ever covered in this. Leaders and masses of the various types ever truly. Cartoons. And it's the same for some academic staff So you're saying Chairman. And I have been a leader in many of the same rooms and said officer and director and in business going up from the people who are into this city there was sector president and executive vice president for the company and even executive consulting for Cisco. And M I kind of this person telling me in my first good many years ago if you're never going to work with I'm going to say mission or company. You're some. Working for him every person. In the family I mean to be true in my six careers and think about it a little bit I knew of the times that you really Matt working for a company that got me simpler than in any sense and kind but you personally when it was working for another person. And then suddenly this I mean well I'll give you a few things and I think it means you need to be really careful in selecting your boss if you've got to have a good relationship with your boss and then the best needs to be a good mentor for you and a good one a metaphor you. See a pencil in this and this and the selection actually actually I mean if you I'm in one situation with you. If you would don't have that kind of relationship with your boss and none of this help you just some of your past looks good. You pass a good promoted men leave a place for you to move up and so that's an important thing to help people and smart about says Take this sharp performance up the ladder with them. Then the men are in the room in the Air Force training your people say that you have somebody who can take your job. You're. Going to position some of the people are looking to say well we can't put this person because there's nobody to take his place and so you want to have training somebody to take your place. And then there was just one family thing here and that lesson not the same intent on being promoted that you forget to really do it at staying for thing once and your present. There are some specific things I room for my basses my different rooms and the first one was a coat stand and I have to have to stay with roots in the room with Michel sitting in the audience because well it was the quarter back when I was a pretty good night and then sat ran back and there was this together. I had to prove the truth for playing for Coach and then you can relax now that the stimulus knew for whom and when I ran. There isn't any kind of culture that you're good for coach now. I have great coaches. Really great news I'll be. Frank with you it's often said court and they don't you may have heard from some of the you know football is going to Arkansas and we're going to Florida and mirror and say I had a great come to his teammates and that gave me. Competitive opportunities to excel. And again that's a. Similar team mates carefully. When does it take we were fortunate. And as I say we have great coaches and teammates and so naturally right when I was there we were in major battle games every year. And that there weren't that many that at that time it was you know it was a real. Choice. And that was about it and maybe the Liberty Bell came in after that so when we went to a better game it was and it was a very significant thing and we went to. The ship to the cotton and to the game. And so that was the top of that time. So. I guess I should say this to work on the other side. We're also be joined if you were here when I was here. Including the Phantom I think between the hedges my senior year. And I think. When you think of the things you and I think it's clear that when you've got these top division one teams competing you've got talented athletes you've got good coaches they've got good happening to save. And defensive systems good scanning and so that's going to be the difference between winning and losing but here is the lesson that I learned and I think it was really important to keep it in every cool right hand it was saying Give your best effort on every play even the into the fourth quarter and then the second is you've got to have confidence in yourself your coaches and your teammates So how do you do that well here's what comes next and I remember him saying this you know we know which one of the player he's going to be the best player until it's over. So you're going to get one hundred percent on the play every time because you want to make sure that you want to get there with Mrs attack or misses the point. And that gives you the room to the fourth quarter when he was town you still got to give one hundred percent on every play because you know which one is going to decide the game and that the present business to. Because I think this is a competition. And then confidence you can't fake confidence. It's not some sort of. A bit of a pep talk. You do in the big problem is if you're not confident you play tentative when you're that half a step behind if you want to exactly what to do I'm a guy passes you you've got to be confident so that you know exactly what to do it with time so. That's a good confidence comes from being prepared he prepared mentally and physically so that's again a big lesson in business that being prepared has a critical element of success. We have the reasons you want to take him a coach who said he had a reputation that he was sort of like a you know thing a coach I have to start the season you didn't scrimmage and like you say. Yeah the place is a kind of going to all going to Alabama Georgia and Florida. You know a band of you know it looks like sometimes what they're doing is a head with this one arm themselves doing the work of whoever survived that the play on Saturday and and that song that was constant That's approach and I like that little bit where you never can use to describe. It with a group or sometimes and not really being tough but he was really you know conditioning and reaction to those big Quick be fast. To react and be in shape something that you would in the fourth quarter. And then he was very much on. The route. With the scouting reports he has written exams that we had to make a hundred on what to expect and who was going to block us and what they were doing every play it was an example and when you remember this on the day before the game I don't think you have any you know I'm saying look at the coolest on thirty year old man and it's. When you expect a man to think OK I've got another screen to the next number or a trap to the mast and. I've taken the best of the three tendencies and he's going to back you were met by who's going to try to block you on that like you have and never let him blame you don't want to be embarrassed and have not written. As a scouting report so that but the game has been prepared to make what you were going to expect and he also had another thing he he told us that because we went to Georgia Tech we were smarter than the other guy so he has a team and then he I don't know if you were writing top but he had a little bit of an east Tennessee twining and that was Georgia Tech it was Georgia Tech you're smaller than. You are from Georgia Tech and he was convinced of that and I think that was another thing for a confident. That was Football and then we can have some further questions about it and some other events and where we can help you answer them right or second go in the Air Force and just two things I want to highlight there. Is the amount of the senior officers and for leadership in a balance between command responsibility and humility that's I guess the the mess and I'm living then I'll tell you what I myself went when I reported to Patterson Air Force Base and largest air force base in the world and certainly the U.S. Air Force. And there was a second lieutenant and of course there were generals and colonels and. And if you were major knew it. That was pretty good I mean that you want senior officers there and it sorts of the senior officers. So really matters and them. Just got mad when made officers quarters and one of the things that you had to take care of the man yourself and you had a good work to the but was to the other equipment wasn't from the list in check I remember and come back and remember your grass and I move next to a major who was a risk Point graduate spending polish and that everything no military. And so. You know we've been you know it's a really big mess on the campus here I have to get to know everybody I mean we play football in there you and I was in there for time to do and so forth and so really I was man really look at it on that level when there's a real and in the Air Force that. Had been running to where it grass and so whenever I got there. And most of my grass when I was through it was just covered with grass inside out or I put it in the back of the car sort of out in the Major said. You know I can take it back like that or yeah I said well in that with the mist and do this that's one thing he said what kind of mom and what sort of example and you setting for them and so I would say we got the whole truth and play with a laugh and take it back but I learned a lesson that that you've got to. You've got to be really mad when you can appear that you're trying to take advantage of getting somebody to do things for you that you didn't want to do yourself and then the as I was working for Jim when you had this because with a story on it it had a big office at the corner of the building and. You know and it went around and got coffee for him and this sort of thing and I said we're going to make you feel really guilty about this you know when he sent out a disk it was you know in book something looking forward to. But what he's really saying was that he had command responsibility and I think what your limits he had some perks but he wanted to concentrate his time on the responsibility that he hit it was in the Vietnam War I was there with him if I wasn't with Cuban missile crisis and there when we had my mates who were well and B. fifty two sitting in the planes twenty three twenty four seven because there might be. In a manner when we were ready. And he had to concentrate on what was and so this you go up don't feel guilty about that you want to concentrate on what's really important. So and so much for the force made a balance of humility and command responsibility just two things. The first one is that's the first time I really had to make a play well. I would say this that's a different than a tenured professors a research scientist and engineers they even sign contracts if we don't get enough. Research from outside of contracts you know have a job right now. And so that was a first time I mean I've had to make the play with the men make it what are you going to make business to make the payroll and that's meant to really listen then the business when you've got to make the payroll and the people that work for you that job is dependent on that. And that means you got to get up and it's go out and get contracts and later on obviously is getting bookings when you're in the private sector. And the second one is I have looked up and I saw a bit most of the people above me were being brought in from outside that it was that time Georgia Tech was time to the west didn't have the prestige it is right now frankly and they were trying to raise the really miss And so they were going from very high finance schools the people above and I son of a hint. I'm going to be promoted straight up and so I was in the wind situation and that's when I decided to go to Santa you know I had to go the route from my friend Jack Kemp who badly with I had worked with as a graduate research assistant while I was in graduate school and he would go into scientific land and work that to be the executive vice president there I did tell the minister and I had been to seven Cisco. When I was just ten News at Georgia Tech so my retirement at best it now we've gotten such a small percentage of US man salary I could move to the many I couldn't even if I had retired at sixty five or something but. I was impressed and I did have a vested retirement so when Jack was interviewing me I asked him I said Tell me about the retirement program here and so forth he said What the hell are you asking him about the retirement program he said you have to be asking me. Well step price right now where can we do to make to stop price going up and how many options are you going to get. So that I mean that I didn't beams about business when I left or when the Santa Clara force and I had some great mentors like that Kevin so when Robinson who was good and I was willing student. But that's one of the things you know that in business thing. I'm a Syquest and that's the primary job of the C.E.O. in a business. And when I want to answer you know I mean when I used to give I'm actually trying to score so I have a ten. Question pop quiz and I gave everybody on own business to see if they knew I had business really works anybody know what's the number one job. Well that's how does he do that. I have. Yeah but the woman thing is what they call you're right shareholder value but the way you do it that's a euphemism for stock price you want the stock price to be going up and you want to have a landscape analyst doing a projection that you regret sentence and earnings booking specs to themselves but that your stock price goes up so that the memory and DAMN of the C.E.O. is to create shareholder value which means that the stock price to go up. So that's that's one lesson you remember right really that you got a report that's true you know the company that some of the New York Stock Exchange every quarter you know your bookings you're saying it was imagined and your profits and your balance sheet and they're going to do you've got a breach of members OK we're going to beat your numbers you're an. There are managers live and die by their financials and some some good and some stay because they you know may be defined in terms of they didn't. See. An interview or said probably some of you do know sent it to reflect that and it's nice to have time for them every one to say he's still living in Boston and still with actors and he's in his sixth or two giving back and working with a number turning on his actions but some of the talk and said was every meeting you went to whether it was with a lot of us whether it was with a child whether it was with marketing or that was said it was turned out to be a bookings meet and his step to looking for bookings bookings and nothing ever starts in the company until your book you are and so that's something you really knowing that. You know if you're going to go to the top and you're going to. Create shareholder value you've got to beat the competition and get bookings and you're in the you're going to find out who's the decision maker Who's your competition. It's going to take to. Get to what price and have you got guts to take it at that price and then tell him he's got to get the cost out of it because we took a bit of action but a couple that was with me it's time to get mad and heading up the engineering group and so when the things you do have to do is when a second pair of good you have to have a plan to take the cost that because you have to sometimes go with. My sister when competitively and so you have to give a new chip you know when you do Sam and that whatever else we could come up with manufacturing in particular and I've been engineering and to take that kind of step but we always have plans to take the cost of every six to nine months but that's what you're going to do. But soon started with the bookings Yes I had when everything I want to say was he said he would say you know get you have to be from the organization chart to get your authority and from knowledge and so it was always that what you know about we're going to get the details and know about your thought it comes from your knowledge not from there were. The move to make me was. German So you know when we were acquired by Cisco he would use it so naturally he played. Basketball players often up to Kentucky so he got some of his background I'm sure from athletics as well. But to have the same of two things I have said from him he just would say I'm a small business experience the best people you can possibly have to work for you Don't worry about it if they remember about the new do they should in there when they should and I want him to then match your competitors so you've got to make sure we're bosses know that that they have to know everything they want and also make sure that they were. Don't think that somehow you are in competition with them. And then the things that. John was his prime directive to in this was let me do something stupid and that's a good thing to do to tell the people that work on sometimes I mean that would be to step up something you know but there maybe do anything stupid. Then John Chaney was to I think that I don't know how many you know who's the chairman C.E.O. of Cisco and. He was. Person to person contact and push away ships he came to scientific lab and talk to each member of the executive team personally one on one and then when we actually had the acquisition he came and presentation himself to them and the employees so for somebody. You know remember your company had to find a million man or your company to take the time to come in and talk to the executives and talk to the employees that always impressed me then the thing is done to me and I wholeheartedly agree with him when you're in the high tech business and in the product dismissed. You wouldn't. You have to anticipate and be willing to spend a lot of money on being on something that you really are going to bring in but there is some risk to it and you can't get a new product in two or three years it usually takes five years to really get a new product by the time you go from the initial concept design and prototypes and testing and then get it to the market place and so you've got a plan your products in a five year cycle we've been playing them out and either through a cycle but you really need to look up five years and you have something I mean I can second him but he got out of the leadership team together once a year for and we go through the different strategies and each one of the businesses it was kind of the strategic leadership outside the snow I think that's. Point but I think it really is what the acronym would be when I think led to the strategic leadership inside these great ideas it was funny it was clear that the slow but that was going to hit the five year plan similar to distil ram. Due to some closing advice limits and my sixth and going from what I like and White Paper to what we have today and. I. Want to remind you that you need to find and. Competitive opportunities that's going to be there with your career that's where you will have success a man do that successfully leaders. Chip is a critical part of having a successful career and getting the skills to do that a man who's close to. Presentations at MIT to add new employees orientation session at signing line up with going back to a family and family is in the Declaration of Independence which really is one of our senses of what we do about it compared to the opportunities in the U.S. because it says with a creator with certain and then human rights that among these are removed liberty and the pursuit of happiness when something happened this it says the pursuit of happiness. So I said well higher in the world to pursue happiness and. The first thing I think is you've got to be honest if you have missed in the people you're working for and I miss you don't have any trust you have it as a leader you have the trust of your people and. You have to trust them and they have to trust you and I missed and that's where it all starts you've got to be assertive. And I have my own definition for sitting here I said if a person's aggressive they want to have a certain way because it's the way if you're sued if you're really trying to do what you believe is best for the organization and you're speaking up what's best for the organization but it's not just because it's your thing that's mean aggressive so be assertive be positive it was saying a good cause to a good leader who is negative I mean you have good women so you can have a booming when this game is going to get bigger and harder and when you have a chance you know you got to be positive and that set that came with with you with your company and with your team that you're moving then you have people system they're going to be times when you let them get me times when it's tough and I've seen so many people with talent who don't make it because they don't have persistence you're going to be persistent and then you've got to be yourself. Because you can't do nobody wants and you've got to embarrass your own talents and you've got to find that but those are and exploit their words but you can't be somebody that you've got to be yourself so I missed a setting I say persistent in yourself. So that means remember to look out for your competitive opportunities and when you find the best Tibetans to make them your success. So that's where the same point there's a point to statements and they say would you like to have some Q. and A here so if anybody has any questions I'd be happy to address them if I can find the answer I remember people in the front row to come to retirement to. I've thought. OK Stephen So there's a. DOCTOR I could I ask you what you think the direction the cable industry is going in the near future. Well look I'm not in the right man so I didn't give you a. Sad look at where I think it's going I think the. The two big types of competitors that they've got to look out for and like I said you've got to continue to innovate and if you don't continue to innovate You're lose. Whenever there's like Netflix or whatever that they're going to ask for and do it for services like they're in the past the cable guys have been able to pay them because they control the network to the home and it depends on the regulations it depends on what they do but they are made to. Look at for better. Likes them so the people who like a Google like who want to have it. Into the home as well Apple's already got it in there in your smartphone and Google sometime if I decide I'm sure you've got them but then they still would like to maybe be the leader on the gateway to the home so I think those are the two that got a look at for my personal belief is what the cable industry needs to do and I know they're looking at this as look for additional applications that you can put in and I think one of the ones that this could be the most. Starts a stickiness a constant people to keep with you is health care we're doing something you said Marcus Right now I'm. Telling help where you can remember the magnificent trait of using that to a high speed network definition. To control the camera on the other end and so the put the nation it cuts down the cost and it can send the time for clinicians so I think the places they could start with pediatrics where people don't like to take their kids to the doctor anyway and the like and you can. Cisco make a little plug here that has what they call tele health and they have a system map where you can get the violence over the system when you're even have a camera and look at me as to see the revenue we're going to look at the numbers and say I think the cable industry is good if they would get the right things and have something new in the health care which is going to be critical because so we've got to do something about the cost and we've got it so about the number of clinicians they're finding relative to the number of people who need. Staying. And thanks for being here. In the Senate Mitch McConnell. Six. It's products. And so forth. But you got something. You know something you talk about turning up on time or on. Something about nineteen to me. What a guy by N.B.C. You have happened since go. Some of them is creating these great companies but thinking about. To be a branch office to do something for Smith or to. Let Mr Christensen because you can imagine a little bit of both business and personal. Thoughts about that. It has to do it again with should have equity and when the C.E.O. in the back. Say that. The opportunities you have for international business have to be significantly increased because everything is going international and when they look at their competition and look at what someone like Cisco is willing to pay that's probably the best. You can give your shareholders so he has a son with a number one job of the C.E.O. is shareholder value you can't write and say you are giving their shareholders that value and I wish it could be another way. One of the problems is that things have become so complicated that. Only being is really expensive now and as I say it takes five years to get a new product you spent all that money I think I had the largest. Scientific lab that when we switch from analog to digital television. And we started in my ninety two and didn't get my first several until my TONIGHT he was eight. And I was worried about my job. But of course we. When from sex I mean the three point one billion really on the digital television and the two way digital network I think it's you're back to being innovators but at the same time you've got to figure out how to do the I'm doing and get the new products. And. You know. So what do you think in your opinion was that most interesting product or product line that you worked on and trying to get me into the most interesting point in the network. Well I think maybe it's. The remember and maybe I missed much of what he thinks I think maybe it was that the viewer because this is the first time you put a hologram have been to a set you have you know a digital set top and so what we have to do today to do D.V.R. We had to put a hard drive in that we had ever picked processor we had to have a lot of memory we had to have an operating system remember. And then it turned out that you couldn't use a hard drive exactly the same as the hard drive it was in a computer if you were right where the computer has a fan in it you can use a fan in the set that because that good smell is in there attainment center and you can have a flare and so that meant it was operating about ten degrees hotter than it would in the. In a computer and. When it gets sent home the head goes down on the the plane and balances and you get hits and you remember when it was to where you have fifteen percent returns and I get a call from the city or Time Warner. And I have to give it a name and everything like that and what we're going to do to us to get through a lot better with the back but with I mean a lot of things we had to do but. I think that was probably the challenging but also mostly reading because once you did it and you got the hard drive there's so many more. Things you can do then because essentially you've got a computer. With your two really high speed digital network going to it. You know whether we have a good D.V.R. and cable box to use before anybody else. Right yes my question really sick into this coming arms someone's job in terms of maximizing shareholder value. And you have a system stock prices and what that means for manipulation standpoint I'd be curious as to your reaction to this but this is your belief that by focusing on I'm sure have a value or stock prices that you tend to put your R. and D. investment into shorter term projects are going to have more immediate payback yet you talked about the need in your industry to plan out at least five years in terms of your future product of element and I guess I'm asking you know how do you balance that where you may have a markets expecting more immediate payback versus the need to invest heavily in products that will have a very different if a payback at all how do you bring that together in terms of. Of evaluating short term projects short term payback versus very long term projects that have some risk associated with the pipe that well you didn't look carefully but I think the thing that you have to do is you really have to have several types of I mean you have to have some more and think that it hits is your existing products and and takes a cost out so that you can take the price down and it was and still get your margins to it and then you've got to have some great range so so that really the balance is what you can do to enhance and improve with taking cost out because then you can make it cheaper to the your customer and things you can do with software to get new apps and new features and functions and so you have to her. I've seen him doing that but then you've got to have sandwiches or long range plastics which are going to be the innovation which will be the real part of jobs and your and your business going forward. So yes. Yes yes yes definitely I mean they're going to be with but you have to have some that are enhancing your core products and taking the car stamp and adding new features to these parts and these are the short term ones and then you have to have some of that if you're going to grow the company well one of the big bet you're going to have in the future and then you also try to get. Additional customers you know as well if you. Know. The question. How did you just dance different organizational cultures when you change jobs throughout your career I would adjust the family going to nation a culture seem like there was one thing going to show cultures where. I tell you a little bit of either just a major neighborhood nice. Lesson and the Air Force and then there's the other things that you learn when you report. That of you know you are you do everything that your security clearance you do and that they would never. Check that passes and you don't have an affair with OK base commanders wife this is this is a bunch of the three things i told me when I reported the dude who I mean. Right place and therefore Space Center so you're more into it just like that but when you think you have a situation now and it is a difficult adjustment to go from and anyone who's been missing from a small or medium sized company to a very big company because. There's a sort of the group bureaucracy the big company that has to be one of the most difficult challenges I think in any company is that to centralize and work that they centralize and to how many battles ways on the Web You know if you centralise you're supposed to get efficiency back but it gets to be one size fits all but if you've got a business that one size doesn't fit all it makes it really tough for people trying to do that business so. The real challenge is to the sad what you can do centralized. Efficiency and what you have to have the personal relationships and the actual customers and the personal manage that segment of the business to do centralize. There's a real challenge I'll tell you right up thought it's. Very well thank you Dr Hecker for speaking with us on a second. I had a question that can probably be answered in a lot of different ways and some of the other questions in your own comments have touched on this industry consolidation and even a recommendation around the cable industry and how it or the telecom companies could be looking at expanding into you know health care space in this kind of thing and just in light of kind of the Too Big to Fail issues that we've seen and just this ongoing consolidation and this more globalized world that we're living in how do you kind of I when I want to even box you into a particular question but I just love to hear some of your comments on kind of balancing the pros in times when I think of just you know kind of monolithic monopoly situation and. Kind of seems a little scary a red one repository and when you just take into consideration you know cyber warfare. And all of the personal information being stored and all of these infrastructure being centralized in one place I don't know any of your comments around that stuff would be really interesting right now it's a challenging question was several different parts to it and well when it was things for instance in the cable industry it was initially you know thousands of mom and pop operations and then they eventually got bought up by the big guys like that and Time Warner and Comcast and Cox and so forth and then the big bets about you are right now and you know that I think Comcast is trying to buy Time Warner and and so and then you have the best system where it was split up you know to the Baby Bells and then move them back together and so you discover as and they tend to you know so. I. Think that the two things I think about is even with that getting to vote as an eighteen take and. The many consider going after that they have to compete with Comcast and Time Warner and Cox and he was Asian and so forth China. So because their market is you can't have a statement market you've got to go to try to find new markets to grow your business you'll get to a point but Microsoft where you have to run out you just make time sometimes the case but you can't find anything you took away with so so you're trying to good to new markets with the big guys so I think that's one thing even when you know you do that the big guys have to try to find you markets and it's still you've got the competition I think the second thing is you know that it's time to really get to do something innovative as far as. Constantly doing. Something if you can give something that might be of service at a better cost that then that's people who play for convenience in their play for low cost and so you have to you have to look at that how do you get the cost and then ever since the things you've got to look innovation What's something entirely new and been fortunate to have people who. Primarily in the Senate side have new things I wish we could find some new things in the Old World. As someone that's about to enter the workplace and graduate from Georgia Tech what did Vice you do you give on and if you end up having a I guess considered a bad boss image isn't trying to train people under them or doesn't really want to be a mentor to you how do you make the best of that situation well unfortunately I think the only solution is you you gotta go somewhere good different boss you're have to go get a different job or you have to take a different course or something because. I think once that if you. I don't think you can expect people to change when you say been doing it for some time and if they fail if the person you're working for is doesn't have the leadership skills and it's not giving you the opportunity for you to grow is not showing you this kind of leadership that you want to emulate then. My opinion is in every case I've been that way I would. Go and find a new boss. Well I would move the job to look up to you and I didn't tell you to give me to be the V.P. or into that side of the letter before I left the other one and then I got to ask you to comment on two things as the last question or the first one. To have you. Comment about what you think about venture time. Dancing fashions of the rounds of financing. Venture we have lots of students who want to be techno want to introduce the commission last night in the past month. Yet and take some amount of money and strike out thinking about it and I don't know how much that's going on but I think. I'm going to. Talk about the time it's time to forget that and. Potential entrepreneurs about financing we were trying to mislead anyone and tell us that there's this. Interesting enough that a whipped them when I was giving a lecture and lecturing tense course remember he was I don't say this to students but that they would have been and what they want their job when they graduate from tech when they get out of tech. And many of them may be good for a big company and you want to be consultants or start their own company and I think it's great I think we've got to have people who will work with other companies and work up the ladder saying we've had some great examples of people that your tech but I think that you're probably going to have to find an angel to begin with and then when you've got a product and maybe it's a very good sustainable business model then maybe you can go to sleep in the and get this and they say money. But usually that Chapman can comment on that for the student. But. The way as I've seen it is that people usually start with planning someone that they can get a little start with and maybe even go to the. Because they were hit with a T D C And then if they can come up with a sustainable business plan that they can sit through it and they're mostly that then they can get venture capital money I think we've grown some in this area that obviously with everything you said take has been behind and to. Stimulate. Will start ups and one of my. Former colleagues and friends and people when it's time to declare a state of China can do a strategist and Baker and all that scientific lab and so they've all got out into it and then very well. I meant I'd rather win that and just another sad comment when that Charlie was at Robinson Humphrey if I did knew about it would I be where was that for that side of it when it's going to go way back when Charlie. You have been recognized by the state legislature when he come here and here corporate entrepreneurship and without that you have created him I try to and beyond have my own I wrote about you they also commented about the sense of value that you have created beyond the technological innovation of five twenty I'm sure most of the National Times women sometimes our students. And to my six crew I did I mean right now so in the six years we're fortunate to be able to accumulate some assets and it has really two features when it was given back to places like the Marcus Autism Center or its duffel bag foundation action ministries and to Georgia Tech and whether it was to working with my children like Mike and some family business is a U.P.I. story. And some commercial real estate so I think that the really. Important thing is that if you are successful in doing this that intersects who I think you have an obligation to find ways to give back and you'll find it much more rewarding than anything you've ever imagined. I can or.