Thank you all mean. And great love. I know. You want to own her. Here you know your old company in the company by those few years. You mean you think. Not a disease and a mind you know helping them from. Letting Me See me on the offer to follow in your home or in your me I'm ready I know it will be thinking about you. Know you were with me. Thank you very much. Looking forward. Thank you. Good morning. This is fine in the summer of one nine hundred seventy two. My parents wrote a check to the University of Delaware. So that their son could pursue a. Studies in electrical engineering I don't think they were figured I'd be sitting here talking to you guys from this side of the podium Rev and the other. My name is Rick was I don't know company has aged care systems written a government business partners right here. He's handed this one over to me so going to be doing this presentation. And I'm going to keep this a little bit informal because it but we've attended a lot of these and what I didn't intend to do here is get up here and kind of lecture I would like to have this be conversational and interactive so at any point in time when anybody wants to in please feel free to do so. Here's kind of the the drill. I think it's important to know who we are and our background and how we got to this place because the rest of what will follow. We kind of It'll make a lot of sense. We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about basically our journey to get our company to where it is that this point in time and at some point we're going to talk about what we need and I'm glad you're here because you know the student base that attends these meetings is a great brain trust and. The research in the development that's going on at this level if we can impact that I think what we can put out as far as products and services to the seniors and their caregivers later on would be very very very important we can talk about the comparative cost of care and then just a basic general discussion right here is our history and I'm going to war here for a minute. His company the company which from which we sprung is called H T C home technology consultants. It's a sixteen year old company based in Athens and the it's in the A.V. world would see what we'd call an integrator their purpose in their business was designing deploying in and supporting very sophisticated automation systems in the home core competencies were security lighting control distributed audio and video some high end to channel home theater dad and communication. The goal being to make all these devices easy for the homeowner to use. Implement from any room in the home. The challenge in that was to take a bunch of different products from different manufacturers with different brand names on them and and make them all play well together a big challenge my experience is thirty six years in consumer electronics and therefore I have no core competencies. And I don't play well with others. This is a typical home as a matter of fact this is a home that was recently completed fifty thousand square feet. I'm not mistaken. So you can imagine the challenges that we face getting the automation system to work in this. This is the neighbor who chose another integrator and see that's what works in this house. All right so how did this company. How do we get to where we are now Rick at a company a client about what two years ago was that three years ago a retiring oil executive who was building his dream retirement home and the model that that Rick other company followed was to be at the early stages of the of the design of the home working with the the builder and the architect and the home owner to make sure that the things that were done in the home facilitated the technologies that were being put in place and somewhere along the along the project the homeowner was diagnosed with a life limiting illness in which point the plan was probably to scrap the entire project in and and dump it all but he decided to want to continue to build the house and live there throughout his life. So the challenge there was what could you know what had to be done to this home in order to facilitate that. And the architect at one point. Asked Rick you know is there anything that you can do to you know leverage the technology that was put in this place to help him live there and talk a little bit about some of those things you know years ago we did what we do with the automation Gratian dismantling its resources and most of it with orders for a nurse. So we came up with a few solutions we were using settlers called What's next to his bed and his master bath. But if you were an academic all lies awake to play this music system today to help was needed after bad. Master we came up with a solution normal works then it would not work if the doctors were passed without water so we came up with a whole house illusion for that we had to get it. He pressed it that way violently throughout the house also a text message to our viewers Blackberry telling the same thing. Help is needed. Mr Mandela bedroom and would certainly head to Valliant bed and so we were able to voice and devices that were actually created for security yachts those the walking dead guy in the forces still around the bed so that were to fall out of bed again and this way you think like that that was kind of like at stake. You know. OK there's a need here. And so the creation of H.P. care systems resulted from that and some of the research that that we did was to kind of find out you know who is it that needs these technologies you know who you know who can benefit from this and we started basically grease board project to sort of list everybody they can do that can benefit obviously seniors that were aging in place and that's one of the reasons that we're all here. We also looked at you know people that have chronic diseases at home. Not necessarily the elderly people who are disabled patients in in rehab. The adult children of an aging parent this is an important group and I think one of the things that were sort of flow into us as this morning goes on. Is this particular segment caregivers in home care companies who provide care for these folks and certainly health care professionals. So we started looking at what was available on the market. There are there is a field of products that are out there all claiming to be aimed at helping seniors age in place and we started sifting through those to kind of come up with what we believe was a a concise suite of suite of products and services that that addresses all these folks and all the needs that they would have so as far as needs goes. What is needed. You know what does number somebody need in order to successfully and responsibly age in place the first thing is emergency assistance. Clearly these folks are rest of the day when being falls certainly accidents around the home and people who are alone and have you know are helpless and you know have feelings of despair. The other thing we didn't identified was that we needed good information about the way people live. You know what their activities are you know how they have the deal with their medications and to some extent as well you know there are general health and wellness and another one is the that all of that there needs to be a good format for those involved with caring for these folks to communicate. You know that the cancer the caregivers the families and the health professionals. We boil this down to basically two different technological categories the reactive one and the proactive one and neither one of these is right or wrong or there's no good or bad. The other. The reactive technologies sort of rely on something bad happening and you know under that heading the emergency response systems the pendants which we also offer will talk about that a little bit. And then the proactive part being what can we do to help put information in the hands of caregivers that might indicate trends that would lead to declining health that we can him that we can impact. So margins in response and some to brief through this really quickly because I don't want to dwell on some of these technologies the Power Point that we have here is sort of is our standard presentation that we would that we would give to folks that don't know what we do or don't know much about this. Clearly this room is different. The sponsor systems the first one is the is the person the personal emergency response system the attendant everybody seen and there's also automatic fall detection those are the two categories. This is a typical purse and what it is it is reactive. It is the most established technology out there with better than you know two and a half decades and move all seen Dr Koop on T.V. talking about this device. It is the most affordable. It's most easily available in the simplest simplest implement. So with that on necessarily make it the best and it's a good question. We do believe that it is the minimum accepted level of protection problem with them are that. Seniors tend not to push the button when they fall. There is either they're incapable or they're unwilling to do that. So there's a there's some challenges with that. Under the emergency response systems automatic fall detection this is this is a fairly new technology. These are devices that do not require the push of a button in order to work. Which we think is a good thing there is a there is a panic button on there. If somebody needs it an anon follow emergency. And there's a few different technologies in which and the way these these devices work. Here's a briefly. One is changes in parametric pressure of the device. You know the premise is that barometric pressure here is different than it is on the floor. Someone falls it senses that change in barometric pressure and then triggers a call to to a call center and that works. The problem with that though is that you know the parametric pressure from a seated position to a floor is not nearly as great. So this is a tendency for this thing not to pick up a fall from a commode or possibly a bathtub. The oldest technology is the mercury tilt switch and probably very few companies use this and probably fewer will go in the future because it relies on a you know. Device moving which which would trigger it. So it's very prone to false positives. Where. All right. The one that we have sort of landed on is one called they tried that their digital accelerometer we've all seen this you've probably held one it's the same technology that's used in the wee remote and that device when you're playing that game. The console knows where that device is in space and which way it's moving right. The and the system that we have employed is called Halo. This is a picture of it. It's worn on the chest strap that has the same technology and IT and what it does is it looks at its activity as it's being worn it compares that activity in that motion to how many twelve hundred rhythms that are stored. And it compares to that and if it sees one that matches up with what they've stored it identifies that if as Athol immediately calls the the call center and the him the emergency alert is sent. The neat thing about this as well is that it not only does it place a call to the call center but it can send text messages and e-mail messages to people that are listed on the list of response to caregivers so nine one one gets a call but also the people in the you know the family members that need to be notified. There's some other interesting things. Yes. OK. The other things that this particular device does is it will track vital signs when it's warm with it on a chest strap it will monitor heartbeat and skin temperature. Activity it works. Also as a pedometer knows when people are moving and and how many steps they take and whether they're at rest or active it can also gather some data through some Bluetooth enabled devices primarily weight blood pressure all the stat is stored on a server and is made available to caregivers that are on the on the list. And will also track these stumbles and and falls or any of these activities and that's a cool thing because what this do will do is it will capture those precursor falls that always lead up to that big one which usually lands somebody in the hospital. So if you look at this history of the stumbles you can actually detect and determine that there's a pattern going on here. ME black right now. I think about your grandmother now will go into the into some of the way that the development of the product particularly about the time we had a client who was diagnosed with early life I had a situation with my grandmother very shortly be able to do a syllabi and it was it was a clear case she'd be there but like you just crossed the threshold. Here it was like well but rather that and that was the other day that triggered me that that was it just seems like they're out of the well or stay longer. What they were there they were talking about with the exception which are kind of modern living there are features that we felt the manufacture of the fellow that we create All right. We went out looking for what they are what works what doesn't work we tested a lot of this stuff various does that really and then it's more of the turning you know with ease or we really immersed ourselves into your provider professional group that it was people stuff wasn't bad. So we got to talking quite a bit about you know what are the challenges he faces a number of people with had assisted living facilities. Even at the State Department resources. So we go way out in the community of professionals and I will say that they briefed us a way that we were not expected but talking to people who work with seniors in facilities in their homes helped drive us to determine OK these are the problems we need to address and what can we go find that might do to redesign you used this is like a national chain. Yes that's correct yeah point right now out of the address that. It varies from when they got to that you know I don't hijack this from you but one of the things we talked about the beginning that we want to address was talk about were the sure what are the things that change a lot. And this is the perfect example because this technology or it takes both reliably it does not fall very stable with technology. It can figure out the form factor is not right now to give you an idea of the size of that it's about like an exercise really looks like where and we get a lot of resistance to the push back to in fact the successful installations of this device almost always follow a similar model. We've got but we just did recently. We're almost ninety years old she had a fall she was with her daughter her daughter's school teacher her daughter make sure that her brother where she lives to go to work in which she comes home from work. The Irish take off and she has a job is not the last drive in the city. If you want to go to the round. It was definitely. But the for valor. Nice to be proved. If there's a way to do. That technology had a little bit he was already easier but all of that I think you would get compliance to go way out of the red light that last night here in the big event is really is the one we're going look you know we want you to live at home we want to just to tape here in this is the way these are the things that you need to do in order to facilitate that all of this everything that we're going to talk about today. This is true if we had a reliable senior saying yeah I want that list but we packed our bags a lot before my dad died it was nice but he was still watching the first matches. We grew up with changing to a job and I wanted. Eighty and your dad would you like to get your remote control and it would be too late to change and you know if it could cost bought it with me then the T.V. Guide getting the love that you could probably get but you seniors are going to be resistant to change. You're going to be resisted. Spending money. The successful implementation. First of all we talk about all of us always occurs after a discussion with us children from a carrier in the seniors and there's a point that conversation where there's an acknowledgment that we're all thinking here. We all were just saying you want to stay in the polls. And this is a way that you know what you're doing right now every day every week. I think there's a couple live here on the scene. So all of this is very well. Right. Yeah OK well that's the case here is a little while. No response. You know where they were relevant and then you all were. This is what he said you know I was talking to ninety six year old yesterday about her. She just really was that you know what. And yet the question that I had is just from the day she did go. I see men just falls. It is that it is the number one place that I see all really interesting you know here and you know get off on the grass and turn around and actually you know they're like yeah yeah you know the specification of the manufacturer's claim is you know they did the many of them will put a you know a range on there but it's unreliable because there's so many things that they come into play the you know where they where the consulate is located in the house you know the the wiring in the house the architecture of the house and all those things can tend to can tend to affect them. The operating range. So I don't think that we could reliably say here go well it's good to three hundred feet. You know MADE BY be good to three hundred feet as long as there's nothing between the cars so in the person wearing it. But once you. You know you know introduce architecture that's a real problem because of your years or so if you had access last fall. You know it's about with all of that that's not something that we're actively doing that is very high to get by side. That's kind of a one off without that big house to your place. I think we heard that as well that is it you know does it work at the mailbox and we try to test it at mailbox and you know just modern spec out for small you're probably you know an older house back when they had to yours a large driveway. Probably not but I think that something we need to do you know we had to hear that a faction of that that we need to make clear that you know why can't there be a set free and set up of these devices right away those here. Yeah you could light it which is in the range that this is inside the actual vault section of ice or communication with the base or not right at the base of the base can't get out of the lifeboat is typically landline going anywhere. And I think that you know there's two connections three connections including power that better require them the landline phone and then you know to the Internet you know and Claudia and products of the that we've read. I think that's part of what we're trying to do a lot of your eyes. People act before we see and this is the on the way be there out. Yeah but young guys all did this offering you're very bright guy. And thank you. I mean I'm with the implementation side what you got and I'm talking about that and be very I mean the the majority of the pushback we have is very Now you know the big the big pushback we've gotten is primarily from from the gentleman you know they're not used to wearing something like this around their chest. You know it's different for a woman. So there you know there they're less resistant to it but it's it's difficult to put on it. It's difficult to take off and it's and it's uncomfortable when you're wearing it. So there's a way to to think the limit make the strap and have this worn small light in a been a preset I think we would we have a winner and I think pretty much challenge I think they're facing now is that the only way that they really say all of this is revealed is from where you started on the head you know that you get all of her crazy emotions. That's not a lot of what I see as I'm sure the result of the comes from what I have gotten you know right now right here. You know as you know knowing what you know hearing from me and mine because I have different being here. You know you're asking me that market. You know I mean I did I mean you know how did I not work out. I'm not really that right. I'm your wife now I think you're yours. I one of the things that we learned early on both with the emergency and the last thing we want is for that seniors are not push the button. All the Earth is that they need to have the moderate service that is very very telling us what talks about a president but you don't go right in. We literally have a lady president but that everybody everybody the silliness and you know that will mortgage at every week. Is that one of the deal like that. There's a couple products projects that then this idea of the yard sale years ago really good friend. His mother would know all it was you know was just graduating with you know the street but she got one that was possible because you know all your elevation all your down or up you know ever since that experience perspective of the years. I feel like you know just because you walk to the mailbox is one thing with this one here you can take a break Lansky things like that so that you'll see more of that over the next three years because that moving in that. Stories. Like what you think about flying in some ways. There are people just human nature that you know we all make the series based on tradeoffs. I think about your life probably don't pay much attention. Well get older an explanation for exercise and for example probably weren't aware which is a real frustrating thing back to where someone was finally there out there or one of the biggest says OK one more injury he replies one son and there were airplanes. And so that's really not that they're here of course the freedom of mobility live on right off. OK some fiery vice might charge. That's not what the war was right. Those drugs. Yeah. So you wrote. Great show. Normal source of your lies for the. My other. Question. And yeah. It does operate as a pedometer so well that it will it will count steps in order to look at it at a kitty. The baseline has been established before right. Yeah. Yeah I think. That's in that you're right. Yeah. There's. OK Anybody else. OK Let's move on. By the way here's the here's the i Pod interface so. You can see there's a fall there were time that happened. The fact that there's an operator handling the event. This was being worn there's a heart rate skin temperature body musician it's horizontal there on the floor and those are in the bed or wherever. Right. That's example of what what someone that in a caregiver position can see at any point in their. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. They are going. Yeah. I think. Or people. Yes. Or they ration you are using here you're more familiar with this you know. OK. We're. Here. Yeah right. OK So the challenge loops and we spoke about this the challenges that we face with these is the know how to you know how easy to put on a take off. It is uncomfortable from anywhere in the short battery life. This one of the other short comes that we've found is that it does need to be charged roughly every forty eight hours. So there's a habit that's needs to be followed that it needs to be taken off but on the charger otherwise you won't won't operate for a long period of time. So it does speaking to the students and this is why I inserted this slide and these are sort of the refinements that we would like to see on a device like this that would be helpful. Something that would be easy to put on and take off certainly more comfortable require less maintenance and less handling on the part of the user. Certainly smaller is better and waterproof and water resistant is of course and it is already but that's something that we need to keep in mind so that it can be worn and. You know in the shower where there are you know maybe. A greater risk of faults as well and I guess the one we should have put on here is extended range. So that's that. Thank you for bringing that up. Right. The second part of the two technologies that we're talking about as are monitored living solutions and this is going to probably kick off a lot of discussion so. The difference between what we just talked about in this is these are more proactive. All right. This is a way that we can actually get in front of those declining health issues and the function of these devices to gather data at the. All they do is gather data. Typically activities of daily living and to some extent wellness as well you know their their general health. The purpose of these devices is to provide information to the caregiver so that they can make a better determination of the type and level of care that the senior needs. All right. And this all requires the interpretation of the data that is being collected. Hopefully to stave off you know crisis before it before it occurs. I mean you name it here. And here again it does not use the word monitor Yeah right this is a slide showing serves me showing the types of devices that are out there what they would gather in a context sensors camera motion sensors a lot of these products were born out of the security world and they're relatively generic you know there's nothing particularly new on there just disappearing gathering data direction. Finding these days is going to mean there's a hundred. That's a great question. Weekend. We spoke about this yesterday. Yeah you know there's a handful of manufacturers. We actually healers all late with one project on one of the biggest challenges we say number one they actually are not that engineers and they have everything out there. They want to take a look. Xtend the way extending along a horrible horrible one clearly alive. There actually is a wireless left so they hear some like that. Yeah maybe you are which was right. They should wireless national used straight line if revolutionize all they make ours like all these are that were very reliable wireless automation live where we think that's probably the worst that ever the fact of life just to prove they're small pieces that you know well this certainly is why five right. But you know just yelling Anyways maybe you know most assessors accessors persons are represented there are one right there where they can get up right on the sensors that we see happening what we certainly hope that we think that a life like that did it is wrong. Yeah yeah that's in the the mesh network there allows it to expand without A need for repeaters they actually act act as a repeater we were just back. Yes it was just days or weeks that all making. Locks were remotely locks in the. Yeah we were out we were going when we were Home Depot yesterday and looking at some of these things. Yeah here. Yeah I like that sign things that are right on all sizes all that all this week with all these and and yeah the good thing that you know what we're looking at is the is not necessarily twenty of those individual devices but what we're interested in is a is the the core of this you know something that was able to communicate with anything that comes out there and then present the data in a way that it can be useful to the people that are using it so many members to hand now. People who are modern living solution and they are sitting on a network. So at of or rather that fast broadband connection less we're doing we love it and I don't mean the main thrust of what we're doing and we can also do that with a wife like our right on the right hand and we actually are able to invest that with our automation background. You know we can get a problem we have that. Reza somewhat better of that he said here. I did yes. Well that's really that's a good boy that the solutions that we like are actually not just reporting directly to you here really diverse or so we know immediately that we have just you know we get rid of a lot of really good person that doesn't bring it back up down for more that makes it very fact that it is still gathering there so that it doesn't back up that. That's right you can love this is a proactive solution right using this for years but it's not a mission for all of us love with you yesterday. Absolutely absolutely. About my goodness. The whole life you will probably need is not you know what like me. Also you know I'm glad I was like sexual no protection of like it's own house right down the road. It's not protection. It sounds ridiculous. We actually just had twenty eight thousand worth of house a life or not. Everything very robust as it has has like the right system of the house if you brought it like that you guys here that's just what I mean. Nothing's going to survive that. And it's real difficult to predict. OK to move on. All right so I yes I submit you're suggesting that the end of the first you know they're all kind. Yeah it's good to know that I've had this sort of task and. That's a little bit yeah it's really good. We've we have like yeah yeah yeah I did too but yeah thanks. Well you know it there. To your to your your your company name accessible in the way that came about I think makes a lot of sense you know it's you know had the ability that it gives I you know it's we're we're struggling with that. Now there you go. All right so this is we just touch that this sense is quite the data and here's a kind of things that we can look at Ben activity when they get into bed when they get out of bed and how restfully the sleep while they're there. The frequency of bathroom visits how long they're in the bathroom access to bed stores this kind of is the core of the things that we believe everybody should want to look at all right. Because these are the ones that kind of give you the indicators of with things are going when the cooktop is turned on and off how long it's on general activity around the house do that with motion sensors of course the entry points front of the back doors which we can trigger alerts with this is particularly important when you're dealing with somebody tends to wander and then video when desired and when desired is very low. We have put a couple in recently where we're video was was a big part of the solution but you know primarily that people don't want to have something looking at them in their home and we never seem to be surprised just articulated just the way it was recently. Tell me again and I get this and like that. You got it and didn't know how much he straightened it out that or at least that varies. Absolutely. Biggest flaw to me they should have asked me for shortcomings that they all agreed that. Well I don't say we probably need this reply that things that we're putting out there that we're not at serious loss. We believe that our head actually works extremely well. Yet we spoil it. Yeah let's talk about good techs because you know not only does it work extremely well the the the the sensors that we use for Benteke pivot he actually have to have driven us to look at other solutions that we had been initially considered for for home so again you keep in mind that we come from the technology world we are not we don't come from the health field but the sensors that we use for better activity you know could actually trigger and we're looking at implementing this in some facilities low level lighting on the floor that when somebody gets out of bed between the hours of say nine or ten o'clock and six o'clock in the morning. Typically to go to the bathroom. It lights a path to the bathroom rather than turning on overhead lights that could be. You know did make it difficult to see it lights have to the bathroom if they can also send a signal to a nurse call station in a distant living facility saying that Mrs Jones is out of bed. It's three am. All right. If she's not back by three fifteen maybe it's time for one of the nurses to go down there and check to make sure she's not on the floor so that works very very well and tied in with a good bathroom visit and we can get the platform that we look at allows us to overlay these events. So you can see that at three o'clock when she got out of bed she didn't go to the bathroom or she went to the stove or the refrigerator do whatever she wanted to do. Let me. Yeah you know yeah good now. Yeah I think we're good at it and that one of these I would mention that it also is not only lightly here when there is a very lively wrestlers. There's also a concern that shouldn't read and that's actually something that I think ninety percent of this is when it's all that's one of the first things we hear from their caregivers. Wow really. Nicely and I love the big one. Really I think is the access to the med store because we can tell when somebody goes to the cabinet we can't tell whether they took the meds once they got there. So that's a that's a flaw. We've heard that there are some advances and this that. They were kind interesting but you know that's you know meds are important and you know we know that they go in there with just one of the take in the audience really is there. There will be more careful. Well they give the go to give it to the dog. Good. It never got up you know I think that's a good you have a good really good people. It's hard. It doesn't want to look so I'm trying to find something from your life and all right. Come come to me. We have your solutions for that it is a letter right you will actually determine whether it's Iraq based on the correct usage. If it is a guest hooked up with a moderate temperature above that there were the from Mr you look at a time like that. Yes that may not but now we do that here illegally. We believe and that actually all of it you are you know this is activated they are living all right I'll tell them you know I'm sure there are there are or where there's already way more rest but there's there are several of the life you know where you got to get on the scale. Right yeah. Actually we just with the scale where they don't have to do anything other than get off today. Track pressure like that. You know one of the big holes so I think that's different to your own idea would you say that that security actually true or something else to talk about with day. Yes In fact we were in the installation probably three weeks ago where I was in the House already has various doesn't believe that our model to go with standard security says we don't want to get distracted by that but I walk through the first thing that is say your security system is there I was at work. You know this and I don't think it fit well to provide that service but it's certainly something we want to be there to learn the whole lot. Yeah. Let me read this and that goes back to the orders of the platform which is that over the life or various manufacturers that can no fly zone with the bill there and they work well. Yeah yeah yeah yeah well then you can actually hear it right they get they started actually he had it all over the rules and you know you tend to get very very good results with it and that's true and I may as well where you really are again like a rock or a sampling of manufacturers all stay right there and then we do. There's also Howard or like that right. Laura. Where where are they or like Yes All right. You're like yeah that. Yeah that's that's great question and they actually have a slide later on that sort of speaks to that because you can look at the events in a chronological fashion. So without even being in the whole house you can go OK I got out of bed walked around the bedroom walked to the living room open the refrigerator went back to the favorite chair. You can see that time you get occasionally visualize the motions of this this particular person in that house. So yeah that stuff that depends on the number of sensors right there. It's room level base right now it's well you know I love that we have to use your sense. Yeah I see that neighbors hear stories and headlights clearly and the thing about this is that you know the point here is that these are Stream Lee customisable right you can get as detail this or it's not detail as he wanted and that the beauty of that is that you know you're talking about a group. With people out there with very very broad variety of needs. You know. So the ability to customize these systems to specifically speak to those needs is a great asset. Yes they are silent. They the the motion sensors can be enabled for an L.E.D. to come on. When they you know when they're activated like you know any any motion sensor but we we'd like to turn them on. The you know the the hope part of one of the keys to all this is that the reason we're grappling with a monitor living solutions nobody wants to be monitored and the thing that we want to do is allow these people or to continue to live the way they normally would because if they know they're being watched to monitor they tend to modify their behavior and that's the thing we don't want. Yes here is our place in every life every which we've ever had and we yeah it's that that's what we look at the life time we can extend the person's day in their home for two to three years and we've we've had we've hit the mark and when else. OK so this data is collected sent to a server where it is trying to graft and then B. could made available to any interested parties that are in this Care Network which is usually a family member. You know neighbors health professionals etc This Care Network is created. There's there's a list. So what we want really want is a group of people that are that we communicate with as to the condition of this particular person friends and neighbors is important to mention the the sensors on the on the exit points we could include a name. Her that you know when Mr Smith leaves the house at eleven o'clock at night. It sends a my lurch just to kind of look at the window see that he's not walking down the street just maybe he got out to do something and he spat right. Yes great question. That was our biggest challenges is customer acquisition. You know we are we are actively partnering with a broad variety of professionals home care agencies. We do have relationships with rehab centers discharge nurses to some extent you're very good to care managers right there that if you're here and they often are hard at work you are right we can also build rules around these events the trigger alerts example is if for instance if your mom is typically out of bed at seven thirty every morning and it's nine o'clock this morning. She's not at a bed that's an order that you probably want to get. And that necessarily doesn't mean that you need to get in the car and drive over there and you know bust down the door to see if she's OK it might just trigger a phone call going hey mom I see are you doing. Are you sleeping or things going well but you're right it. Yeah I mean it's it's a it's a very slow pace. Yeah and if then statements that are on there and you actually hear that that's really well here's what I. There are some a factory reject pacifically but if I have to struggle to get through to you. I don't feel particularly good at asking here right now. So you know sometimes you get a better job than others. So you're right that there was a specific manufacturer you don't talk about her brand names that you know they are making the hit piece of where we're actually have a pretty close relationship with them where they're making changes to their interface based on these that we're seeing a selective one off that's one of the very first things we saw the happen when at a glance or read like you know like three saying just because you're looking at devices or using Z.B. communicating where you're headed is that make a cover work you know somewhere. Right right right. Yes exactly. I love that it just gets to you just know where your life is at yes I'm still very much. Well this is my where there's where they they had a little bit. Yeah. So I just thought I support anything. Well no I mean you know if you will communicate with you with help which he did so for example that they personally don't have a lot. Right. As part of this that we've got sure that we has that many factors are supporting factors that are close and that is there's a lot of well that I think about it now with all the other has that there's always a lot of you know what do you think maybe your orders were lost track where you wanted to work with you and your outcomes from your network from yours from yours. First I do know that if you look at your screen right there. The other day in the web that is a brilliant piece of business software heard of her and would have to write for all I can manage rules and state management you would have a serious. Thank you for your great wife. This is in the back with me and there probably are some open source. Somewhere out there and not very well read. But right here we have that all there is here that you are healthy right there. He's all he's got you know all. That's right. Tim It's left. I'll talk to past. All right let's break through this it with a bit here. So the Web page right here is a list of censors you know they're named. The status of the last event recent activity and and again you know the status of that everything's cool down here you get a graphic representation of the green bars being today the gray bars are yesterday so you can actually look at history and overlay it. You can look at it with all eyes right. And here's a seven day running average of of a particular Well of all activities again compared to the history and there should have one on an individual there's thirty days. OK here's an individual sense of this it happens to be bathroom motion. So you can see that today they got up and you know went into the bathroom at ten o'clock. They also did you know activities in and around the bathroom yesterday at around that same period of time. So looking at it historically in now see a trend. You know there's this person you know. OK. Hoops. OK And here's the here's a graphic view of the sequence of events which was spoke to a little a little bit earlier. You can see that you know this is these are the the way the the succession of events that happened so you can actually digitalize the motion through the house. With respect to wellness. If you devices that will collect data the weight scale of course a lot of similar blood glucose meter and a blood pressure cuff and all this data to get its source stored the same way and can be graphed and be looked at and also then overlaid with the other sensors for instance that the weight scale is noticed if you're seeing a trend of Weight Loss of a couple of Pierrots a couple of months and you can see the. Activity to the refrigerator has gone down over that same period of time then it might lead you to believe that there's an appetite issue and then you know react to that and so the interpretation of all this dead is really really key the advantage of these is they allow families and caregivers to look in to seniors conveniently without having to go there and the Precisely. We of course create a caring network. And that information can be shared with health professionals to determine. To take the next steps to take care of these folks they're highly customisable we can we can modify what is monitored so as someone continues to live in the house we might see the need to look at another aspect of their activities of daily living. These can be added very very simply and easily unchanged. You can modify who acts this is the information and how it's transmitted whether it's received via e-mail. But text message. Whatever the benefits for the seniors that gives their children peace of mind can improve their health by better management of chronic conditions and of course they are to stay longer in their home with safety and security benefits for the family is that of course there's peace of mind that their loved ones are well they can make better decisions about the level of care and save a ton of money by being specific about the kind of care. That's being given. And a big one here is that it does provide try to grasp that for for the family and caregivers. Like health fault or the well is that day. Yeah right there right there. One thing we discovered is the value of the made that big stuff is just to be tool box for that plastic Here here. Usually a woman. What about forty five fifty five. He has a full time job raising kids and trying to take care of see we've had a number of clients where he would get feedback from that person that are worse than what differs. Maybe you have one that shared with us. She would go see her father every other than just that face and that seems to be the way to hear her deal with their their neat thing here. Love this past any time and it was not close because he felt intruded upon her she saw her door every other day she was resentful because he took her away from a job he did in the family. It was a very unpleasant thing and we but this is a just solution and it ran for a leader to lead the baseline data very alert and she shared with us. You know what I go on the weekends as opposed to visit resentment these things are the way of it with a healthy rational. How is this like or is this something is it really like the medical device him you know the wellness things do you need F.D.A. there will this kind of helpful snack where we look the best of the three blocks on the tree. Yet the hell raising red flags as a way that we look at many factors perspective as devices for the proof right which is transmitted that we're acting just like a rock so that I actually get put on hiatus for a while. But that's supposed to be all that you know little of the mothers of where those who come back to life early those only use for dead over the first home are made back of each crisis as you're providing them with the actual manufacturers as yeah right. I see a lot of the response categories based on rough work like some white bread itself right there in one of the things that we discovered that we did not expect We really thought of the tell which was the big hit of this. This is what we really started with and of evolution just to tell. Well that's what we really felt in the field is that people embrace the activities of daily living monitoring and a small percentage rest of the fellows and I think one of the reasons is activities of daily living really happen without a senior doing anything it just disappears in the background they don't have to do anything to tell Well this requires a little activity here they've got to take those measurements for that to be useful. That's to be given away as low as one point three So it really you know all those devices that you saw that go to your really or you know one or they're seeing their elders come with your credit card number and so this whole thing. A lot of researchers say you know all right I'm going to breeze through the costs to simply the average price of a semi private room in any system living facility is anywhere between forty five hundred five thousand dollars a month. These are the costs of our solutions down here on a monthly basis so there's a there's huge savings for everybody right. And we're done. So anybody else are we still within our timeframe the last one really surprised she said what. Thank you all for your input. Yes prime. What are our birth will ten years varies that there's probably more as time goes on seniors to be here Ira. Well you will experience. We just don't see it. Maybe a little bit weird maybe it will be with may play a little bit further but it does seem to be of great value particularly for the costs that are out there you can probably hear. Well we talked about e-mail. Well just the stuff that's nobody's interface. You know OK I see. I mean like you. Yeah well you know tell this essay. Yeah yeah you know. Yes you tell us feedback from brain here that we can do that. The other one. Well the activities of daily living monitoring not so much and then you brought up great here. That was the very first level with this and that isn't a factor but I think that the logical. So I see that we actually have a life that just said what you see here. What we like now largely because your face was and we might also add you know that when there's a stem is how well they interact with us and take our feedback and making refinements and implementations to their well with partnering very very closely with this company and you are like you your family doctor yeah yeah a lot of it really is you know what. Here is a way for a while in effect we just earlier this week for a living like here says the place. I was last used to have some sort of signal he should let you know or you need to complain. You know what. Frankly that's easily done all you've got to do is build it into the if then rule. All right. If Dad sit in the chair for thirty minutes then triggered this would send a signal saying hey get up or whatever turn up T.V. easy to do but that's very good point and I think we do that to the point is that if we get the caregivers that are actually look at this to understand that then they can build the rules around that as well.