Alignment Bartlett, class of 925 architecture, conducted by Maryland's summers on April the 12th, 1996 at Mr. Bartlett, Tom, and Birmingham, Alabama. The subject of the interview is his life in his life at Georgia Tech. Mr. bartlett, Thank you so much for having us come here today and brush if you came over. 

Well, we're glad to be here with you. I want you to tell us your story and began at the beginning, okay? 

Well, shape and they should. Powers were both born in Massachusetts and people want to outbound Denver, Colorado. Shortly after mother dad married 19, one, the dead contracted TB and it was a shock to yam. They didn't know what to do with. Doctor told him the only way you're going to overcome GB is moved to Denver, Colorado. And so they picked up start all over 1 out of Denver, Colorado. They love them and that's for my son and my brother and I were both bone and Denver. And people wonder why we were doing those out. And I told him I was all American aspect as she was just bad. I spent all my life and dissolve born in Colorado. 

So I feel like I'm pretty good around picture there. 

But how old were you when you move to Atlanta? 

We move to land at 905 and came to Birmingham, 905. They've driven 905 1912 and they moved to Atlanta 902. I already just as much door via a school. That has my school. Yeah. 

So I spent almost Kool-Aid and Elana 1923, 1925, our K our snake or ladder at home. Where did you live in Atlanta. 

And when Bob piano section we live is what school did you go to then? 

Gei Wo to judge? 

A grade school. What high school? 

My tech high tech high school. There are three school. Girl, boy, giant, tiger. And the mother changed in Malawi where the octet to go shelf. 

And she had seen some flavum my interests and are touching things and she would pray you indicated that I want to go to arbitrager. 

Hey, tell me why you wanted to go to architecture when he influenced, yeah, Well, the thing that influenced me when one of the things you did was in my junior year in high school, radical strange, maybe build a brand new home. And I would highly impressed, watch I think I'm found a company. And as an idea be a part of that. And I rarely have larger my thinking. I thought it was fascinating. My verbally yellow whatever release bit edited. And but I like to draw on my geotechnical has really what de Beauvoir guys go. They took Latin as darling, I didn't take any Latin. Good tech guy. Here is Amazon drawing usually. And so we add some basics then to the psychological training. 

So you came to Georgia Tech in 191921211920192021? 

I came to fall 1920 and it could crash version of a 1921 due to the individual or 20, 20 came 2120 due Wednesday evening or by adding a game in fall of 920, one net, right? 

Do you remember what it was like to come to the campus than when I was rather orange bearing. Piaget had I actually live and we didn't have the pressure of school or setting. 

So but my brother had been there. He was two years older than I had been to the board. And we had to have a think about why I go or I naturally want to door to check. 

He had Why was your boy guy want a four-year scholarship to take? 

And so he was out there, deco right. Of a two-year blacking out there. 

All your planner with you as a student, you will read a book and our outshine Kagan again, I had both. I like the activity of meeting people and make sure that people are getting the book. Didn't graduate from Georgia Tech. Graduate Georgia Tech. And to your anatomy 23. He skipped a grade and you as a student an hour. 

But I had lost my phone. He had a mission with people and do things nasa. How did you get to school every day? 

Yeah. 

It was a pleasure knowing their schedule with a streetcar because streak or does it have a blog where I live and went down, transferred in via bar together. Not just restrict, going out to check Canvas for that. Rely primarily on there we go. We had no college and I after I graduate. What was school like? 

What was your work daylight, school day. A button too impressive. I don't remember being orange by my first day of the year. I just enjoy though, the spirit. And we did quite a bit of a variety of drawings and whatever. Nothing's particularly outstanding about it. For 2001, I came in. 

Can you tell me a little bit about any of your professors? 

Amendment? 

Bush brown either burden our boat mostly. 

But he was head of the bond. Bush Brown may have come in, they might have for me in my first year. 

But as she gave me know I'm gay and I think he was head of the department. 

But my junior year, Bowers a allele and they are the mechanical buildings. 

They lead us in a section of while we were there in the junior year, they built a whole little and go to the village billing. And the SI the whole SHE top floor, they burned to the audit age, which was very impressive. Mobile it a lot of contrast. 

But what can you tell me about that? 

Professor Bush brown by Asia seemed rather form. A little reserved. Yeah, they're much day and he's ashamed you. A very new way you're talking about. He taught history of architecture. Enjoy the way that a good leader, the person. 

But he didn't have a personality very much, which we've found. I contrast that with Jack Skinner. He was small, but he had Enclosure Dam buddy. 

He talk to you like the burdens that a student, what did he teach you? 

Design primary average is drawn should he had had an origin in Miami, Florida punishment. Yan'an, anybody that always help or not. 

But I know when he left, he went back to Miami to pick up trade as your own private all of it. In fact, but I graduated in 2005 and 2006. I had a wire which can be dumped our environment. Think that was quite well. They had a big boom going on abroad. 

And I had just come to Birmingham any about a year and a half out on each self-centered law did to the firm a vignette this year. 

So a terminus is going to die. You all were made 1520 hours really raises our enjoyable. I've auditor and down nice compliment for you. 

Well, I felt impressive. 

But they raised my shall we want our David, you stay with us. 

So I say that just stay in Birmingham. Let's talk some more about school, about going to school. Tell me what it was like to be an architectural student. 

Did that mean you had to stay up all night? 

Every night? 

Oh no, that was just huge at the end of a certain design period of a year, at a time limit. 

But Zan be turned in as like an Amish you have of a commission client and he wanted to draw a wedge, that's just a job and you have a deadline and show you all the while that deadline and that was so important. There were giant we stayed up late at night. To FU there's the deadline that we add the Edinburg. We had one lower arbitrary usually say he never finished drawing. Let's take a mother, we take care of the change with change on, but we try to make it mystical bleed. 

But I felt the most obligation, the Aughie good improvement at all your work on the dog, check your dimensions at owing. Have seen that have several job I want to I didn't think of this change. 

What are the drawings? 

So there was then a one final answer like in math game, does evan to nasa who don't file as you just keep improving, improving, but not all the time. 

Which was the reason we want to the last week on a commission for any project which GUI we worked with, viral antigen. 

When you had to stay and work on a project and you stayed there all night, you didn't go home at all? 

I don't remember seeing own I know Kinsale, I do our street gosh. Schedule. 

So you had to write the word tallied work on the weekend or you didn't Amsterdam, but AutoML and bugging and night every part of the process. 

So UV working overtime. Mr. barley, You were very, very involved with school besides studying for architecture, you when everything arrow to Larry Bowers thought out and do much. 

Did they get after you about your grade? 

I were to stop and an avid us interested in and I felt it was how social harm of my umbrella and it didn't enjoy it in new and end of attorney didn't bounded entity to study started. And I advised is a riddle she got. 

But I enjoy mixing with people. You had more fun. I and I found it he had farms oil bogus age that let's tell you about some of your activities. You were in the ROTC, right? 

Had to take our GC the vote two years. You had a choice should I have? 

Julie is optional. 

And this was what I wanted to do it via the law had gone on in Europe in seven deans, voting exempting will allow the possibility of a law. 

So it was pretty well I was 14. My bill ended and out through the zapped parallel. Oh, I can't write between the figure at the right time. I didn't get can get in. 

But I spent but first when I was at Varna in Davis and the depression came and a good Birmingham and 2008, 2009 period. Let's let's talk about the ROTC again now, you did you stay in it all four years? 

I did. Mentally is and you ended up being a major, a major adjectives or whether the data is. 

So, so any played sports for them to buy each team ADA, in football or basketball, we had quite a good group to the player. Select Robin, I did not enjoy it. I enjoy very much. 

So you play both football and basketball? 

We had played basketball and football. I would have a lot of basketball. Besides the ROTC, we're also in a fraternity strategy and also in the bank. 

Oh, yeah, we're going to talk about that, but let's talk about the fraternity is what was the name of your fraternity flashing vocabulary, pejorative. Eduardo Bonilla vagina, but I am good friends there. 

So I joined the dirty. And I do have a lot of fun with them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Did you ever go to dances? 

Are partnering says, imagine. We had a house, a house. Students lived in the house, but I lived at home every night experience and diet. Very much so. 

So that provided some social life for you that we also besides that you were in a group called the marionette dramatic love it too big. 

But as a quotidian dance group and then a dramatic and a dramatic rub. It has very good exploded into the cab. Is it at a good reputation? 

And I got into, unless I'm really got into play, we call clown. 

Now as a father. And my dad spoke, she got but I didn't. 

But a lot of the battle scenes, invalid, nice Butler, she go dead, train me on the spot where she got I got sick lot of drivers on training all I but part of the law and yeah, he come in oh, juggle, follow molars ago and that was how they haven't forgotten that. 

I think that what I want or some other place that you were in a play or slow or seven veil that was written by Harry alibi. He was a student and check the architectural student. And he usually brown Mary edges was dramatic. How much POJO that architecture. 

But he really does go a little slower. They have insomnia epic egg with my name, with my time. And insomnia advocate, if it allows or thing. 

But a lot of them. 

Do you remember any of your line? 

Does the one I told you tell me again in the sketch, a ball, I'll see all the future things that be as well a star, the star and vj on the phage. Did it have any music with it at all? 

Oh, yes. Yes. 

But you didn't have any women on a campus? 

Anyone any women? 

No. 

So did the men play the women's parts that try to have a bottle of oxygen demand impersonate women. They didn't have them at all. Where did your performance is take place? 

We took at the school we put onto because we've evolved. 

Now we took traveler drag the legend, South Carolina, convert college. 

We go to high school even what do we have we had to do as we trypsin got away with Canvas, made the leap. When I spoke with day exam that they did they didn't dive into medical exams, but it was a conflict. There should be an overshooting or the group, I bet you Dan? 

Yes. Where did you perform on the campus. What building did they have? 

We had the vintage barely adopt all the values. 

We had a wildly well, you didn't put your plays on there, did you? 

Well know where did you play? 

Leanne, our term and the YMCA 0 case and you will July. Did did the people from the public com that people from Atlanta good glad the reputation. Yeah. Mariners. And you were there for three years. You were in the marionette enshrining. I spread of Xenia and had a good time all the time. 

I enjoy it should it did what did the director for that come from the community or with the director from Georgia Tech? 

Plays. Harry Harlow wrote it indirectly. He directed it to he was a busy boy and a really low energy. Any obligation rather challenged. She's got a quite an interesting experience. I never realized after you've finished check. 

But what he did our mounted Ela went and you're going to happen to him. I'm not sure. I might have gone on to that later. I hope it'll be got into very loved it. 

Besides all of those things, you also were a writer, a journalist, and you wrote for the technique, technique. And how did you get interested in that? 

But it does apply KVL and they need evolved. 

But that was my weekly or monthly chosing and Chinese and topics to cover. 

So good. 

But I enjoy that experience very much. You're a good writer, whether allied to get around basically people. And you also worked on the blueprints? 

David Anu. I had been in the technique and there they felt like an analyte work as shiny edge of the blueprint. 

Which meant I had to get a background information of average model is saying is, if I got a job ready, penny, as we view each one of them and yet that picture in Beijing, did you write what they, what it says about them in their lives and most of mine. 

So you got to write up everything you wanted to say about it. I had to condense it down into smaller space. You are a powerful man then, but I didn't think so. I don't feel it off publicly. 

There were a lot of seniors, four hundred four hundred seniors the year you graduated? 

For our zing it I have no idea. They were that's a lot of people to write about. Yeah. When did you find time to do any work that well managed to work it in. 

Did you ever take any summer jobs? 

Why? 

Did my sophomore year I worked with an audit regularly by himself in ambushed small office. And that's when I got hydrogen and domestic white or red. 

And but my junior year at am I Dream of Jeannie? 

Well with history and I think I spent two shall meet with them. And they were the top firm in Atlanta. And I got really misbehave and the way they did. What were they building in Atlanta at that time? 

I can think of the big building they were doing. It was a good thing that they built a meal. 

Read was one of the principles, right? 

In theory, you know, a lot of houses in a way that a good reputation Boyd. Did you ever have a chance to work with him directly? 

No, I'm not. 

Well, as I would with the head of the firm and the Birmingham and I came away. 

But I will just wanted to Dr. Ahmed and hence we sum a job there just as I'm a job. They're good to take me on. What did what did the people do in Atlanta at that time for a good time. There's gotta go to the old adages. They went to dances. Dance. 

Where did they go to dance? 

You don't remember go into any dad they're at and what a big bottom AGI high school. Period. At the end of the social very much. Did you ever have a chance to go on dates? 

Oh, sure. You've had time for girl is way too. 

My mother was an organizer the church, and we add a junior guy and they achieve anteriorly in the practice on Friday night. Yeah, we'd have changed dancer and play cards and jewelry logged on partially that yeah. We had a larva group, had a big launch on my own. I've just gone to church. I was young and she lies over that. 

So you did meet some young ladies and you dated and enjoyed Atlanta avid. My primary enters through the Church and Israel editing as time alone. I was married twice. First of all, I have What about you that she'd had involvement birthday, happy birthday in 28. 

So that wasn't in Atlanta. That was an Alabama. Birmingham. Okay. We'll talk about that in a minute. Yeah. Do you remember your graduation gestures? 

Nothing too impressive. Yeah. Just that didn't happen yet. You still got to pick a job that I have every play well, yes. Okay. Let's take pike. Mr. 

Barak led to you said you don't remember your graduation to match a few pictures and then what happened? 

Did you get a job offer during the spring of my senior year at school as she was looking into swag on alert, one of the active members of their journey, quack woo, the pouch. How to architect and friend and object in Birmingham. And she said, Why don't you write them Birmingham. Miss you aren't mentioned night OR and I and David. And so I rose to him. He said the quicker they're shown a common point as you again. Thank you. That's why I graduated on Monday and got to work on Thursday. 

But he had so much worry Good. Did you take the trying to get to Birmingham as I would want to travel day. And what had you ever been to Birmingham when I lived, Yeah. 

But really if you have 905, 1912. 

But you were a little boy. I am eight years old and we'll hit Birmingham. 

So you really didn't know anybody here, digital, I know very few people here, but we had some connections here. 

But anyway, mission I had met me at the train, took me to his own. Instead, you have a little time to find a place to live. In our state are on stage. I live that 3.5 years and I got married. 

He left his home and his oh, my goodness, I saw that his sister was born of that power to borrow that group in Latin as we're thing through the church that I made that connection. 

How long did you work with him? 

But I came in 2005 and I leapt it and 30 say you weren't fact years is by there. As to the depression came in, in the, uh, when, uh, 29, 30. And then work finally gave me good dwindling, running out. And Mr. Knight had an offer from a big firm in Knoxville agency. 

They were loaded with work and they wanted somebody that they can loan somebody to work on those Russia they were in. 

Mesh night asked me, Well, I want a little notch below, but I'd rather do that rather than do nothing as I love it. And so I came up here in the spring of 930 and he came up to Knoxville. And hours you have a two-year international or two years. And we as our grant out a roll of wire mesh tonight I said there's worried about right. 

Nashville or shall I come back to Atlanta? 

And he said, Well, I wish it had leather and each other can't be anything, but there's plenty room, boy. And so I should act with that. And I got on the train. I want to know. I just said I can't be added. I had a son who was married. 

And so I got on the train, I got all be Washington and a few connections were there and maybe But it didn't get anywhere. 

And I had a brother-in-law and Philadelphia and established as an I with the I want to we can he says because let me go with you DO till we got on a train on Monday morning, went to New York and I interviewed did several people on Monday at ten o'clock. I think it'll have a lava Monday out, interviewed and next day out where we're going with this firm. 

There was three of or Giotto, Jigme, anagram and they're down to work in Birmingham, had a connection there. 

Well, there's a beam at a firm where Barbara Wagner and white, bottom-right. Yui. Mr. bottom labor demanded down a big home in Birmingham. He had a kind of a real interest in Birmingham to having been yeah. 

So I worked and he is oh, actually. And what was going on? 

They were out on the 30-second flow or the Lincoln Building. 

I could look at it from four checker sheet down to 32nd Street and solemn billing the Empire State Building. Blocks, that thing go together everyday. Igg I just ten blocks away. Fascinating. Yes. Profile here that think Veronica, Yeah. Mpa bearing have RSA Data Thursday and still one of the most famous buildings in the world. 

But it's one of the most painful the engine and we're fascinated. And you watched it but she couldn't go to, Yeah, that's fascinating. And that also watch there are some big show, the Rockefeller Center, aka a bivalve Zelda. Personally, I would just few blogs, web offers what I watch Eddie come from the ground Angola. That was fascinating. Dann haben ja I dash spent ten years NEO. 

So you bring your family to live with you? 

They always they came right after I got up here. You gotta place. 

So i just the sound of the time. 

But it was fascinating to enemy and he or she say you lived right in the city, lived in. 

We live in an apartment out and Jackson Height go it took the elevated HDR to Jackson either draw out. 

And did you work did you design big buildings there now while I'm dragging and bought out the design team, looks like you take your glasses apart there. I have yet that they shouldn't have and should have been doing. Let's go on. Okay. 

So you were working on part of a design team to build a working knowledge and design both at three stages of design. And then they're working dog than a bid. And you get to construction and three GDN are buried. Design period, and then they get too big and then the construction period line. 

So what made you leave New York? 

Well, I was working on a big housing job and Neil Mr. crouch tiny down. 

So that's why reputation as a giant polymers. And I was working with a firm in New York. 

And I knew I got to know the total mileage out yet out of New York, the Lord, he started in Europe in 940 of Oregon. And I just wanted to get out Neo. He said, Well, I have a good friend, Atlanta, um, I was in school, is Henry tombs. Why don't you write him? 

And I wrote image Touche, come with clickers you again. And you were lucky all the time. I've had to good luck all alive except for that. 

So somewhere half and you came, dance out, you say, come on, come on, query it again. And I had a nice experience with. Mr. Kims, with what kills you said is to hand it to them? 

Yes. What was the name of his sperm? 

Henry J2. He was an individual. He had done the little light as she had done some Federal Reserve billings. Dyadic, an Asian with FDI, you knew it the FDR. He had a connection there and he did it a lighthouse and Georgia. And it was fascinating. I went to work either doing. 

But as time went along the wall, gotta you gotta go and tape it all. 

So how long did you stay with him or with him? 

Several years. 

So you weren't and then we worked on quite a few things in Atlanta. Is can you remember anything you work down in Atlanta? 

Several homes. They weren't any problems that we did. 

But say you were building homes that you were okay. 

Well, so then what happened? 

What came next? 

Well, when he he does God exalted always enjoy a dish close. Oh, and I found out I was always so sad that they wouldn't take you in the military? 

Yeah. 

How many children did you have by then? 

I had twin daughters and one son who was born in 32 and twinned only borrowed 39. 

So you actually shift. 

Then what did you do? 

Came to Birmingham and 14 and 19 for organic know you came back to Atlanta? 

I came back to Atlanta and after Mr. tombs closed up his business, what do I what I got and do it? 

Well, I'll go ahead and do the wall construction work with will contract. 

One of the big jobs was at a new rubber plant building and Lily, we're waiting for the o the paper would be annulled and he said, could you work with me in Louisville? 

Say, well, I'd be glad to. 

And so App the famine in Atlanta, I went to Louisville, spend about a few munch up then as always, the last several years. 

So the family moved up, they will do to the heredity of furnish our favorite, a fascinating job. And I found out I was contributing something to the wall. I would always buy 10 the Beijing things that they needed to have a big demand. And I ended up being a purchasing agent, then I spend millions of dollars. The taxpayers money. Get nice branch build could do it. Yeah, Dr. priority, I want us go change orders. Purchase during the day I had ever copy heavy side, you're going to stab them. And I spent many and I sang 15 covers a very perched on Wednesday doing that. That was my couldn't, didn't have time during the day. 

But it was fascinating. Java and Java version two years, they sent me to Miami, Oklahoma. They were getting a new plane out there. I went with him how bright ground had Miami, Miami, Oklahoma year. And then I went to Tuscaloosa when the war ended out on a gel on top branch. 

And they build a new plant down in, out, up, down in touch village on the job, right? 

When the war ended in 1945. Husband, my whole long time bidding a job branch and moving around. 

You can you manage to stay employed on all the time then? 

You stay employed the hallway, they're busy working all the time. And the thing I wanted to do that you get some outside experience. The weakest part of our training is experience with outside these, drawing it on paper. 

But you've made a change within Laurasia, but you can't do that on a good day and shows and we're getting good experience, any experience. And I felt I was contributing to the world by working on the giant branch. 

But aspects they, they four years on top I had during the war. Welcome enough. And then 946, thank you. Started your own company? 

Well, I think it was just starting to bubble up. 

And I had been at a very heavy expansion such collusion abdominal Rotary Club and and had a lot going and they hope that all been an obvious in touch, privilege, agile and my desire to get Mountain Robert said I've come a famine connections in Birmingham. I came back to my main work then they'll form are nine David. They stay took me on and non dog it out. You want to be there? 

Chaperone. I didn't know myself that I had in mind. 

And the spring of 1946, Jamison's, as they're sharing a whole new development here and cover people who objections come here. Your interview them. It might be where you your jersey and I wanted to jam. They put me to work right away. And I did warn the value apologia 15050 years. I think they were verifying project. And I got that Stata and ELE modeled with that big a ball and agile. And as you go on Amazon. 

But I liked in Birmingham and add Canadians, my family, uh, by this time your children were getting pretty vague and getting out on their own to yes. And so you opened up an office here. 

Did someone come to work for you there? 

But how did you get to be the boss or did you just have yourself in your iPad mount offers? 

I had several agenda. 

Do I spent 10 years NEO and I would with a vomited two flows hundreds of Dragon hazard data or imply that if any mistake occurred and know them too. 

And but I didn't want to have a big arm is I want to keep it singer, shower role of random on a join with me, but I kept it to myself. Okay. See you at your own business. And how many years did you run that business? 

I had over 30 is 30 year. Yeah. I see. You will tiny couple hours over 40 shakes out of varnish actually. 

And he retired and Sam does Asia over that 30 years, what buildings did you build that you're the most proud up. Why did you? 

Well, I danced. I did a variety of the job and I did some schools, churches, and homes emotionally. I did some cardboard. 

But I had seven Holland and I'm quite proud of that terrorist and I have to drive by them. 

But one of them is on this to braid of all right now, how windy or slightly longer? 

But I'm having probably 20 jobs a year for 30 it as 600 jobs got all follow the same. You see, and it's hard to have a favorite when you have 600. Yeah. 

So it was it was a good experience for you? 

Oh, yes. I'm happy time. They want to have our dubious about being an arbitration. 

But if Hershey or the depression, I wanted when I got an accountable all got org. And so Piaget, he won't make a lot of money. 

But you, you'd keep busy, but you won't make a lot of money, hazard. That's all I wanted, something I'm interested in and I never regretted being into architecture. Did you never did. 

If you had to go back and do it again, you'd still be in Arkansas while that's the true test, isn't it? 

One period in New York when the time was at about six months, I didn't anyway, I gathered working with the local government, setting electrolytes back and clean it. I made a pretty good living in DC, but I can add all the changes. I got back into it right-click and I liked it so much. 

Well, what happened in 1976? 

You said you retired? 

Well, I had to set up a camp of August and I had it I had a complete clip on a drawing board, everything at home and out able to do a lot of work, even though I didn't go with all of us. 

So our ID, I did my childhood about AVE, AVE on fashion. 

I get colder and on there now, so I'm going to add a wing while I'm inspect this and this are they so he just kind of kept your handy in sound is and you stayed very active. You played a lot of tennis? 

Oh, yeah. Tell me about your tennis. When I had a good friend named John Hammond, who will Washington Gentlemen, our bog. And the Labor Day weekend. And he said, I'm chicken data gone to the origin of the Marne. That's tops of all of our entourage. I said GI you got a good idea. Second Ocean. And she, he agreed with seven or 738, what actually really lead on 730. And we've been beating 730 ever since. He's still playing tennis. Gopesh angle leftover them that. 

But I play with the toys when 20 some ideas, but we add others come into play with with the glow gloves. Gloves. And that was tennis for seniors, right? 

Yeah. 

Did you tell me it was always 59 or ever been at now is we add a tournament with the ladies twice a year. 1590, I'd be 59 unveiled. A lot of people wouldn't admit their knowledge. They went genres. That would just be standing. 

Gioia much going to be 0 if, if Navarre admitted that was a twice yearly added a tone for the women on a weekend, but every morning, rain or shine the grain ago to be good. We aplasia, which I'm so glad to have snow covered up the core. We had kept our plan. You can see the white court has to Trevor, but DO Loop 6, 8, 10 men playing every borrowing. 

So that tenets really kept you young, kept you start up and up. I lost 30 pounds. Wait, honored that I got out of 60, played every day. It made a big difference. You, you bet it. I had a Nigel. They wonder what our bounds you will be. 

We're playing tennis from the time you were young man, weren't you? 

Appraise them and as a boy and Ashoka lose them, they'd Siobhan ever played regularly. And as the golf game, you gotta keep playing a stingray got a day to improve and to be any good. 

So that was the exercise and the skill of a perfect in the game. 

So please get away from God and yet you get hooked on tenant and something else. Ball exercise. And what did your children do? 

My children, and they go on to college. I went to university, has gathered SWOT and a and a very low degree. He did. He went to Florida in high school. My way with movie doing that. 

Why you as our Nazgul, you want to vote in Nashville? 

I thought that would affect his career in high school. 

But you've got the Ramsay I hear in my junior year. And he finished his senior year there. And yeah. I thought sure you'd be affected by his college way. 

But he took he took the boy a cause. 

And the four years he made Phi Beta Kappa years president was Claire's and the edge of the paper sounds like actors, Danielle, very good career and college. And then he got called into the Vietnam law or AIP, got to college, had been there with it. 

And you before I worked with when he finished college and June June deal about October, the Vietnam, he would, why would favor some variant of your writing skills? 

Enjoy ie been out to the paper you see. 

And so a, UH, about six months with the lower playbook and Vietnam all call him the Vietnam War for four years. 

And we buy it over and open our UI or the lower edge of the church and make a reservation for him at the Gemini, you want to go to seminary. 

So I will switch really well also praise. Why is it was it was a bishop in Florida Episcopal Church. And we'll also brave and he made that Jane he wire division in Birmingham is omega reservation. We made the seminary and that he had three Good, seven a and he went from here to here. Went to Charles Townes, West Virginia for Xamarin. 

And he ended up as dean of the cathedral and low when he was elected in Beijing, VB Visual Florida, visual Pennsylvania of our separate here now, how wonderful for you, something I'm very proud of it. 

Yeah, I usually try not to be proud and hospital Brown, et al, right out, please, at least that you sat and he barely made the right is A10. And my Currently I champion and has done so well and that's great master. And went into girls do your Donaldson in high school. They, they started out at Ramsay. And rather funny thing happened. They, each year they gave an outstanding a captcha and outstanding graduates senior, easy. They ended up having the exact same grade. They had to get, they got that Stanley Cup. 

They get to put the whole show is 0 and wait, did he get another cup that he had to Delhi gov, they want these top ward, the fellowship. 

So they did very well, very well. And what a lot of merit. A boy she'd met in college and not through the full year now and met her mate, NFC graduate. 

But while I'm Erin, Episcopal minister, he speaks fluent Spanish and ease in Pasadena. 

And as a JPEG Spanish congregation prejudge and Spanish envisioning every week, go up an hour, patch on new language wherever they sat, the church had him down to Puerto Rico. He was spent 23 year down Puerto Rico. And so I applied for this post-sale Spanish congregation as why he went to Pasadena. I found Los Angeles. The others in other data, marriage or lower, this boy she'd been but also college. And they moved to East to Maryland, many graduating because he's had his own Albers now. Since you guys, hey, guys. 

So no children are left in Birmingham though because you wanted to in Harrisonburg, Virginia, they are scattered about ten grandchildren and five great grand, but it's coders want to Harrisonburg, Virginia. I have one dog again. Don't get an a PhD atan Oregon and she's out there working on a PhD. And I have grandchildren and the ease in Boston do up in New England. Julian shell 1 and San Francisco has had auto send. The Bartlett's family has gone every other. Isn't that one didn't didn't stay in sound at all. 

But the knowledge about coming to see me and I see them a cushion time IV. That's going yeah. And if you had to do it all over again, you would still go to Georgia Tech, Georgia jag. And as you take avid Asia, you that in a very fine provision, it was a good experience for scan. Your story is a wonderful story. And then that license, as I feel, I've been very fortunate for his wife died when she was 16. 

She was she had a little trouble with cancer of the breast and then had a bread removed, but it didn't. And she died after marriage, 33 and Avanade person and astonishingly fast. She had lost her husband at the same time I wiped. 

And so we started going together and I've known her children, her children, my children a data together. And so she reaches out, he had married at a very rapid 20 years and she died. 

So I haven't had 53 year to live. And it's just a force at all my life. You've had a lot of happiness and, and, and some sadness. I never had a real low period where depression and I have never know anything about that. That's wonderful. Yeah. 

Well, we really appreciate you taking the time to go and I'll start while it was certainly better than another well-coordinated. 

But you did very well. Thank you very much, Mr. part. Alright. 

Well, I hope you got.