So please give a warm George that welcome to our special guest Ms Leslie zen thank you. Hi Good afternoon. My name is Los Liza and I'm the chief bottle washer at Arden's garden. I've told my story a number of times but usually it's in a different venue and the audience is somewhat different from y'all recently I've had a few family members and friends weigh in on what I should talk about today. But despite their well meaning suggestions I'll be telling my story as I lived it and as I know it and I hope at the end of the session we will all still love each other. There are some significant events in lessons that I've learned on my journey and they have definitely shaped the person that I am today the one thing that defines me the most and changed my life completely occurred in one nine hundred eighty six and I'll call it my way didn't work. So in the summer of one nine hundred eighty six I found myself in Blair's Hell New Jersey and a long term inpatient drug rehab called Alina lodge now just in case you don't think this is odd or maybe you believe that I was destined to be there because I come from a long line of alcoholics let me share just a little bit about my background and clarify that this is not true. My dad grew up in Israel he was fairly poor but he was an exceptional athlete and he ended up playing soccer for the Israeli national soccer team. After he emigrated to the US in one nine hundred fifty seven he played soccer for the U.S. national soccer team while he attended undergrad at N.Y.U.. He. Don to get his master's at Stanford and it's Ph D. at Princeton he joined Tech faculty in one nine hundred sixty five and today there's a state of the art combustion lab on Tech's campus named in his honor the band he's in combustion laboratory. Likewise my mom was no underachiever either she skipped for grades in school and graduated from college at eighteen she had her first T.V. show in the early seventy's the new fit kind of ahead of its time. She opened her first exercise studio in one nine hundred seventy one. And it was one of a kind my mom was a real trailblazer in so many ways but especially in the arena of Health and Wellness she became the stretch coach for the Atlanta Hawks the Atlanta Falcons and Georgia Tech football way before flexibility was a regular part of professional athletics there was one montra and our house and that was be the best. My parents had high hopes and dreams for me and they didn't include drug rehab. I showed promise early on I excelled in school I skipped second grade I was also very good athlete I was the number one gym listen Georgia and number two in the cell but despite these early successes my life slowly spiraled out of control during high school and college. Pot now Kohol led me to cocaine and freebasing and drugs started controlling me rather than me controlling them by my junior year in college I had used all my tuition money to pay for drugs I would stay up for three days at a time and I hallucinated on the third day despite knowing that what I was seeing wasn't there. I would spend hours staring out the window at policemen that were sitting in trees but there was nothing wrong I didn't have a problem I developed an allergy to the coke or my body dehydrated really badly and my skin would crack and bleed but again nothing was wrong. I ordered white gloves and Neosporin from C.B.S. and I just want about my business I lived on the fourth floor of my building and I never went out I had a dog if I didn't go out that dog never went out you can imagine what that apartment was like I wasn't raised to live like this but this was the way I was living and again I still didn't think that anything was wrong. So just take a quick step back and do a self assessment if you find yourself in drug rehab at any point in your life pay attention this is not normal and you didn't get there by mistake but if you find yourself in a long term inpatient drug rehab and you have never relapsed you need to pay especially close attention because this might mean that you're an egomaniac with a bunch of grandiosity that is at an all time high and that you believe that you know more than everyone else and that idea might just kill you so this is exactly where I found myself in one nine hundred eighty six I'm in this treatment center where the most basic privileges have been taken away I can't leave the grounds I don't have a car I can't have any money I can't use the phone I don't get to listen to music read any books or have visitors except for on Sundays for three hours but coming from Atlanta that basically meant that I didn't have any visitors I could only shower three times a week and I had to wear a dress to dinner and all day on Sundays and I still serious. We thought that my being there was a mistake. Luckily the rehab was run by with an iron fist by an eighty year old woman named Mrs Delaney Geraldine the Laney. She was forty years sober and far more stubborn than I was her initials were God and she acted as such whether you believed in God a higher power or just Good Orderly Direction Mrs D. had time and experience on her side and eventually I got it. My way didn't work my best thinking had gotten me there it wasn't my dad or the counselors or anybody else it was me and when I finally realized that my way wasn't working that I needed to try things someone else's way that's when my life started to change for the better and things began to happen it didn't happen overnight but it did happen I followed every single suggestion that was made no matter how stupid it seemed and guess what life got better so if you're in a situation where you're beating your head against the wall and you're trying everything that you can think of to make things work and they're just not working out take a step back and ask someone else for help no matter how smart you are and the smarter you are the harder it is to do this there are always others with more experience or expertise to components in the right direction. Even today there are times when my way doesn't work and the sooner that I realize this the better because then I can look elsewhere for guidance and begin to move forward knowing that my way doesn't always work has turned a huge weakness into a monumental strength. The next part of my story that I want to talk about is about Find your passion and I know that a. People have talked about this and we've heard it over and over but I really can't stress how important it is to find out what you love to do. Finding your passion can be the difference between a beloved career and indentured servitude I don't think for a moment when I was sitting where you guys are right now that I knew what my passion was I had no idea but I paid attention to what I was feeling and I made changes when I had new realizations here's my story of how I found my passion after graduating from Tet I got a job at a small marketing company where I made pretty good money and I had a lot of opportunity I learned a lot in that position but at the end of the year I wasn't happy and I knew that I needed to do something different that would involve helping others and give me more purpose in life I quit my job and decided to apply to med school. I had to beef up my sciences so I returned a tat and I took the M. Katz right before applications were submitted at the same time Arden's garden was just beginning and my mom needed a lot of help so whenever I had free time available way from school I would help her with the business. I struggled through med school interviews because I am uncomfortable with authority and I detested the process of ingratiating myself to people in power I realized that med school would be ten years of playing the game and I had serious second thoughts about my ability to thrive in that environment when I didn't get into med school I was faced with the choice to join my mom in her fledgling business or get a master's degree I would never use why I reapplied to schools. For me it was an easy decision my strength. Was my interest in health and willingness to do whatever was necessary to make the company thrive My weakness was my fear of authority and of the inability to thrive in that kind of environment my passion was promoting health and helping others which could be done in either venue so I chose Arden's garden and it has made all the difference for me I needed the freedom of a small business and I was willing to sacrifice a guaranteed paycheck twenty years later I still love what I do and I'm blessed that I enjoy my work because it's a huge part of my life so I urge you to pay attention to what inspires you what makes you jump out of bed in the morning also pay attention to the things that make it easier for you to sleep at night you're not a winner if you choose to be an entrepreneur or a loser if you go into corporate America the most important thing is just to know which situation will make you happy. And you know just on a side note I really been blessed because both of my parents have loved what they've what they did as work and so it was an unbelievable model to have I see so many people that hate what they do and you're going to be working for super long time so if you can find something that you can enjoy it really makes work so much easier to be to participate in. The third thing that I want to talk about is kind of a montra at our company and it's called suit up and show up no matter what I say it all the time because it's something I really believe in and I really learned it when I was going through the trials and tribulations of trying to grow a business. So Arden's garden began in my mom's kitchen she had bought an expensive home juicer and make yourself feel better she called all her friends and offered to make them juice. To help. Food Store opened up in her neighborhood and they heard about her and they asked her to come there and make the juice and that and they would sell it so my brother joined my mom to try to turn this into a business. He became C.E.O. in one thousand nine hundred four I joined the team officially in ninety five and for the next three years we enjoyed a lot of exciting grow we opened to retail stores and a manufacturing plant on how mill I was thrilled with our progress and I thought we were the perfect team. At the end in one nine hundred ninety eight my brother came to me and told me that he didn't like working with me and he didn't want to work with me anymore and either he was going to go or I was going to go. I was devastated I did not see this coming he was the majority partner so he really had all the power but I knew that I wasn't going to go and so I did whatever I could facilitate the buyout it was not at all what I wanted. But I knew if the break up was inevitable I would be the one staying and I would figure out the rest later as the buyout proceeded I became wracked with fear. I truly believe that I might not be able to run the company without him I knew about sales and operations but I had no idea about systems and manufacturing. I would wake up every morning overwhelmed with things I had. I want to pull the covers up over my head and just stay and. The fear was overwhelming but every single day I got up I put my feet on the four floor I got dressed and I went to work and no matter how I felt I did the next right thing. Over time and it took time the business survived and it eventually thrived and slowly but surely my terror subsided and I started to feel at ease and that's when I learned in. Realize that I sit up and I show up no matter what over the years there have been so many opportunities for me to practice this principle more than I would like. But every single time I come out better and stronger and has never failed. In two thousand and twelve Yahoo News called me and said they wanted to do a video of my story and really and truly this video highlights sit up and show up no matter what. We. Believe. Me. Through. The floor this far from home with you from. I don't know if the plan was going to work but it was taking X.. Having had five years prior I know they were. Basically a real. Garden. Right. And. Three weeks. Back. Put it back. To her. Experience being a single mom has made me stronger and more confident as a business person. And it's helped me understand. I don't. Feel like. My free. Forty forty two. Fire. Me. Her her her murder her groom of the house we were. Once with. That video thank that video got over a million hits the first day that it came out it caused our website to crash three times in the first twenty four hours and we received over fourteen hundred orders on line and I would love to say that we were ready for the onslaught and we handled it with grace but we did not. We did however do the best that we could and we know for next time when there is a next time that we'll be ready for the huge boost in sales it gave us unparalleled national exposure and all because I had a juicy story. You never know when your blunders might turn into blessings or your challenges will make you a champion you just do the best you can use it up and show up no matter what. Over the past four years we have grown significantly two thousand and twelve to two thousand and thirteen we doubled our sales and from two thousand and fourteen to two thousand and fifteen we doubled our retail stores we opened six stores last year and we have our first store outside of Atlanta I just cringe to say this but it's in Athens. It's been a very exciting time for us we're going to open our fourteenth store in about two months and it will be the first time that we have a drive through window. So there's a lot of stuff it's a very exciting time to be in the juice business and it's very exciting time to be an entrepreneur. I have really enjoyed go all the struggles and all. The triumph of being an entrepreneur and doing something that I really feel passionate about I'm very grateful that I have the opportunity to come and speak with you guys and you know sharing my experience strength and hope is a benefit for me and I hope it's been a benefit for you thank you so much. Q. We're just going to open up for questions. I'm wondering name of a book that you've most gifted people friends and family and how they spoke out an impact on your life I'm sorry say that again the name of the book that you've gifted friends and family the most and how it's had an impact on you. The name of a book that I've gifted to friends and family. You can think of one just a book that you think would be useful to college students about to graduate looking for a career. So I recently read the book by Tony so that's the head of I think that there's a lot of really good ideas in that book. I don't agree with all of them but it's an interesting I think he's very innovative in the way that he handles business. You know just just a follow up on that so do you do you buy into this idea of whole ocracy No I don't know so you know you could make he didn't write that it that came after the book but what I do like about his book is about the mission and about where he's very defining of what his company is trying to accomplish and I think that that's as far as creating creating direction and sort of enthusiasm and passion in your company. It was a question over here. Thank you How do you inspire passion in your employees especially with all the success a group with are discarded throughout the years so a lot of our employees have mil of us for a long time and so they've been part of the growth because we're not such a huge company you can have a major effect on our company by having good ideas and expressing them I mean anybody can come up with a recipe we listen and we try it you can have an influence by naming juices it's you know there's a lot of dynamic things that people that work for us have the opportunity to do. So we constantly hear when ever we have a speaker to find your passion if you find your passion you're going to succeed in your career so what route did you go to find an establish what your passion was so I paid attention when I did things about how I felt OK So when I had that first job it was a good job it was really fun and because it was a small company and a lot of opportunity and I was getting paid well but at the end of the year I was not proud of what I was doing so that was the first clue that I needed to do something that I felt proud of I didn't know what that was I thought it was medical school so I went the route of medical school Believe me my dad was totally against it you know then I went into the application process and I started interviewing at med schools and I realized how. I don't want to say this but. Well nosing you know how much you need to suck up to people I'm not good at that and I really it's like fingernails on a chalkboard and so I needed to say to myself do I don't really want to do this for ten years now I was lucky I had the opportunity to you know join Arden's garden but I am a big believer that make yourself available and good things will happen so try new things you you will get more and more information and when the right. Thing is there you'll know it. Hey you talked about a number of kind of make or break moments in your life in your career which one would you say is most impactful. Well definitely me getting sober without a doubt that was the hardest thing that I ever did and it has changed me so completely I use all the things that I learned in everyday life you know so that would be number one but I really highlighted on my brother leaving because that was the first time that I was really really terrified and I thought I couldn't do it and so when you make up less you when you make it through you know to the other side then you get a little bit of confidence and then the next time something happened like when I found out I was going to be a single mom it was pretty devastating but I made it through the next you know so every of that had an effect but you get stronger and stronger. I I think I know you had a lot of obstacles throughout your whole career but how do you maintain your and your teen's daily motivation for success despite those setbacks So I mean we we have it's a very exciting business you know the really cool thing that I love about our business is because we have retail stores we have direct contact with our customers so there is nothing more inspiring than seeing people change their lives. The store is right off my office I can hear people come in every single day everyone that works in our company has to come in and out of a store so you're automatically getting the energy there but kind of a segue on that I'll show you something really cool that happen. Just maybe eight weeks ago I got a call that. That some rapper had featured are Jews. I don't even know about this and so off I went and I miss him play a little bit but I mean who gets this. I am. Twenty dollars it's only twenty dollars. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah yeah. OK. So if I can inspire them. I got a little god old. Well it's kind of hard to follow up. Come on you can come up with something. I was just wondering if you could touch on more when you took over for your brother the company how you decided to do that and how you knew. Part of our garden was really something that you didn't want to give. Where you got that courage from. Us OK So you know you see the glamorous part of art is Garden right now but the first three years honestly my brother and I barely got paid for two years my mother didn't get paid much we killed ourselves I mean I put my heart and soul into that company I sold every single account that we got so it was me you know it didn't matter that my brother was majority and or I couldn't fathom fathom that I would leave I couldn't fathom doing it without him but there was it was not the chance that I was going to go. How did I get through it so I think part of I think it's really important to know your strengths and what your weaknesses are so one of my weaknesses is that I have to have someone right behind me like back in me they don't even have to be doing anything I just have to know they're there and that makes me really strong so I had a production manager that I was close to that I think that he could run it like my brother no but he was good enough to be there next to me to help me make it to the next phase and then maybe a year year and a half I had a very close friend who was helping me and he ended up joining me in the company and so he was like he brought everything that I didn't have so you know you just do it when. At a time. So my question is over here. What do you think is the biggest struggle being a female and running your own company obviously it's very difficult to strike a work life balance is that your biggest struggle or are there other difficulties so now that's my biggest struggle having kids you now I have four children and you know I want to be there for them and so you know when your company is growing and there's a lot going on it's very easy I could spend sixty eighty hours a week at the plant you know so work life balance with children is very challenging I actually have never found being a woman in business to be a weakness it's been a strength for me because you get a lot done and a man's world. How are you able to be so successful with gymnastics if you have this problem with authority and do you think you. Just from a coaching perspective but do you think you gained any skills there that could translate into you being successful in your business and I think definitely being an athlete. You learn a lot of things and even like after I got sober I became a marathon runner and so you know there's sort of the discipline there but I think as a kid I didn't have quite the problem with authority that I did you know as I got older I mean I'm definitely a rebel at heart so. OK So a lot of people tend to think of like like these health things are a health kicks is like trends Yeah so how do you think moving forward like how do you plan on keeping our garden as like a staple of people's life and is that like is that something that you fear becoming a trend I don't fear it because we've been in business for twenty years and it's always grown so if you make a. Product that you know works and I know it works because I drink it on a regular basis so it's not a trend it happens to be very hot right now but if you incorporate fresh juice and healthy foods into your diet on a regular basis you will feel better and so it's based it's solid it's got a good foundation so I think they'll be a lot of players that will flush themselves out I do but I don't think that it will be us. High. So we have always been committed to the community and as we grew we we would always support different initiatives usually by donating juice we never had a whole lot of money truthfully to go around but we were always supporting with product there are a few initiatives that we specifically target we always promote teaching healthy kids so like the only tours that we give of our facility are to children we want kids to learn that you can have something that's helping and there's no sugar in it it's a huge initiative for us as a company and also educating people on health so there's going to be actually a seminar sponsored by Kaiser over Emory that's called food as medicine and we're one of the major sponsors of that to try to help people understand that you know it's not all about. Pharmaceuticals and all that that it's really important what we put in our mouths to help keep us healthy so there's other things like we support a lot of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's because in our family we have a lot of that so we do our part to try to you know make to progress the the issues forward. I was wondering if you could touch on I just for a little bit I know you mentioned that you've opened six stores in the past year that you're about to open your fourteenth so is wondering with the recent expansion I wonder if you could touch on how you keep orders garden consistent despite whether customer goes into a Publix where they go into a store where they're not Lana or Athens and how do you make sure that your brand is remains consistent. So that's a progress that's a work in progress right now I mean I know that we manufacture everything in one location so we know that the consistency in the product is there what we haven't quite mastered is whether you go to a store at Monroe and you order a smoothie how they're going to charge you for it as opposed to going because like I told our managers I can't even might bring somebody up it's gotten so complex now but it's one of the things we're trying to systematize you know our our mission is to make healthy items affordable and convenient and so that is a huge part of what we do everything that we do we're not trying to make a million dollars We just want to cover our costs and say in business but there we have we've had a huge growth curve and so right now we are we're trying to do a little bit better in the training and so that when you go into an artist's garden and well one thing I do want to say is every artist garden has its own personality and I want it to have its own personality when you go in a little five it's different than when you go in to see any springs you know but I want people to know that you know when they go there they're going to get the same quality product and I know that that will happen because we're making it all ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. OK. So you know what the cool thing about recovery is you can be just like someone else in your family and you can realize that it's not the way you want to be and you can change so I would say that my innate thing is that in my family I want them to be the best but I know that that is not the best thing to do so I work steadily to be different in my family than it was growing up for me. I am not perfect. So you talked about showing up no matter what yeah what would you say is the key to getting up and showing up even on those days where you really just want to give up. You put your feet on the ground. You stand up you get your pants you put one leg at a time and you do the next right thing it's not an option if you give yourself the option of pull that cover up over your head then the next time it's going to be that much harder to get up and go in you know every time that I've suited up and showed up it has built my confidence in measurably And now it's not that hard to do it when it's challenging as it was the first time. Yeah. Hi OK I have a question about the nutrients I've been a juicer forever my you know I grew up with a very healthy food oriented mom always frequenting health food stores and we know that you know when juice is initially juice that's going to be your highest quality most nutrients right there and then every you know our it's going to degradation nutrient value so I guess I'm just curious. What your take is on that and several days later drinking it versus that initial juice so the four things that hurt juices nutrients are he light air and electricity the number one being he a case so when you use a central centrifugal juicer which is what most home users are they spin it really fast it gets really hot it's easy to use and that those are the juices that you really ideally need to drink right away when you use a cold press it's a completely different process there's no heat that's ever involved you take a blade and you basically cut the fruit or vegetable into mush like apple sauce or care at lowish and then you have a hydraulic press with filter bags and you press it so it's called a cold press so the nutrient so the juice is not affected the same way that it's affected a central focal Jews obviously there's somewhat of a trade off you know you want to drink fresh juice but you don't want to get five pounds of produce and spend an hour in your kitchen and you come to Ardennes garden and you can buy it for three dollars. Do you would you say that there's a certain percentage of nutrients laws do like a day two days three days or have you ever looked into the oxidation you know oxygen coming through the bottle or being at the top obviously affects some of the nutrients but I think the trade off is worth the benefit by a mile Thank you. Yes Hi So first off I totally buy the fact that you're not just a working mom but you're a C.E.O. mom that really freaking cool. And so this is going back to first off kind of to what you commented on before what is your philosophy on being a working mom in the fact that like do you integrate your family with your business or is it one of those like we leave the business at like at the business sort of things I guess when it's a well there's my youngest kid right there. You know my kids are my. Well look the you cannot separate from me the business of my family I mean first of all everyone in my family drinks the product and I'm talking the green juices and now we live the life because that is that's what I believe in you know it's what has I mean I had four children at thirty five forty forty two and forty six and that was with no medical intervention OK that is simply from taking care of my body and drinking a lot of fresh juice so if that doesn't tell you that you know the product keeps you healthy it really does so my my family's definitely a part of the business they regularly come that I have to tell you I grew up in my mother's business and she would say we'll just stop for a minute and then like five hours later we would leave and I hated that and so I try really hard not to do that with my kids. And I can hear me OK fine you know the the story was mindblowing and thanks a lot for being so damn Frank. Yeah my question is I just before that there's one thing we both have in common something very important happened to me in one thousand nine hundred six and I was born bored yeah thanks a lot right. Again to anyone OK so yeah back to the question I'm a business student so yeah I understand Arden gardens Garden just a funny story so has had lots of ups and downs and it's in its time so what sort of impact you did. During the time of global slowdown like two thousand and ten. The Vietnam he was in but because of the slowdown so right you do out something out of the box to really boost your sales improve profits like how was it for you you know it's it's very interesting but our sales went up now maybe they would have gone up a lot more I don't know or maybe because the economy was so poor people wanted to take better care of them. Selves and it was a lot cheaper to buy a three dollar juice than a pay for a surgery I don't know but we really did not feel the impact of the economy. Slowing down at our business screw. Over here every where OK so I actually say thank you again for sharing the story I mean I love Arden's garden and I mean I really don't know to expect my candid to talk so it's great to have such an impactful leader at the home had a few questions though being so familiar with the actual Just the store fronts themselves I'm really ignorant to like the online face and then even the public so in general with you opening a new store in Athens I would you say the breakdown kind in revenue is from your major accounts versus the stores for his online like or the stores just for like a culture development or how do you see the money flow in order to garner basically So prior to us opening six stores last year it was about half and half whole say OK so on lines like this. It's not it's not a huge part of our business but it it is it is growing and it has a lot of potential but truthfully our focus is way more on our retail stores and our wholesale accounts mostly retail my heart lies in retail because we don't have to process those juices I didn't even touch on the old wall incident but there was an outbreak in nineteen ninety six with the old Wawa and it changed the entire fresh juice industry it didn't matter that I would wallow was criminally indicted and they got a one point five million dollar fine for negligence they managed to spin the outbreak making in an industry problem as opposed to a company problem and so in two thousand and two the F.D.A. mandated that if you wholesale your product you have to process it so we process at the very minimum that the government allows most. People process at the maximum because you get a lot longer shelf life OK. So back to your question after the six retail stores retail far dominates wholesale at this point so that's probably going to be the avenue that we grow we focus on more Thank you. I've got two questions OK all the stores you have right now are they. On your own or any franchises they're all company and any plans on franchisee I guess the second question. The second question I have is that do you truly believe that following the passion is definitely and always going to bring success. If you find it yes is that possible depends how you define success but I think it's paramount I think it's paramount to happiness because work is become such a huge part of your life no matter what you do yeah I think it's super important. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about how you sourced through things like manufacturing distribution packaging kind of what that process was like finding. OK So sourcing are you talking about for like raw products like fruit and vegetables or I guess mainly sourcing your produce that you're using for the juices and then how you're distributing them and how you found. OK that was doing it the packaging OK So when you talk about packaging remember that guy I said that came in about two years after my brother that's him I don't do anything with packaging. And I don't really do a lot with purchasing any more but we so there's a saying that I say all the time it's on one of these slides but is that the universe takes care of everything I really really believe in that. And I do the right thing because it's the right thing because if you don't it's going to come back and buy chin the butt so most of our suppliers have been supplying us for years we have very very strong relationships with the raw the good people the oranges the carrots those types of people that the frozen for its packaging and system is a new equipment that is Victor that is not me. Thank you again for the wonderfully honest talk I want to know how do you guys seek to distinguish your products in. You know in a field where there are nationwide players and also you know many families with their own juicers as well and then I guess on a related question know what is your favorite juice or cleanse that you guys make one of my favorite G.'s S. like saying what's my favorite kid. My favorite is at the moment it's ph solution and it is spinach kale spit celery cucumber lemon and water it's really really good. All right wait what was the first question how do you think this is or something about your products that stiff OK so how do we the other cells so we don't do any marketing we have this conversation in the mean great before but so price you know you look at what other people are charging so there's a big difference in price the other thing is if you read our label you'll know every ingredient OK if it says on Apple Apple gender's the name the ingredients will be pineapples apples and ginger. You know there's no so you know like when you come into one of our stores we purposely have our counters low we want you to see what's going into the product you know we put in whole fruit in the smoothies no ice we want. I know that you come into a different smoothie place the counters are up here because they don't want you to see what they're blending in so we are HUGE about transparency we really want people to know what they're getting. Yes. Hi honey yeah. Well someone like myself I have never really purchased our garden before because I have a lot of allergies to raw. But after hearing your story I would love to be more supportive of a company like yours because it's very passionate and I was loved is everything that's behind it and what ways would you say someone like myself who consume your product could help or contribute to it in some way so for a lot of people when they drink when they take a food in juice form that they normally might not be able to handle especially like citrus they have a very different reaction because juice is absorbed to your abdominal wall right into your blood supply so you might be surprised that you may not have the reaction that that you're expecting. But I would urge you to try it I really have known very very very very few people that have had bad reactions to fresh juice especially Green says. OK. You mentioned that art is going to really market March what is the reasoning behind that one the beginning it was no money. Really you know what I said earlier that you should like pay attention to what helps you sleep at night like for me I hate to I don't like to people money you know so we never taken alone except to buy that one building and we're debt free so that's the way it started because we were able to grow and we had like this grassroots campaign it never really economy came like our culture so you know if it's not broken don't fix it. Leslie I wanted to say that that your juice is the only way we can get our two year old to eat spinach. Apple mango and some spinach it's with so thank you very much and thank you for coming to attack absolutely thank.