Thank you for just the right thing and I'm pretty new yes I joined. Before that I was there exists an amplifier so most of the work which I'd be showing is done a Texas A and M. And in that transition phase and just on the sly it's a shock but I learned that this is more than the ocean is about the sort of things were inside taken out of it's I'm not going to talk about shock that mostly talk about the dynamics of buoyancy driven and in the middle of the discussion to show you how those two are interrelated. So. I'm here on the behalf of all the students who have done the work I'm just taking the goatee coming and. So on the top of the most of the world which I'll show here by the nation Sharon and they have just finished there. And I have one who just following this vote here at Georgia Tech. And there's not a for funding funds which is supported by the N.S.F. and the Air Force and is to get it aboard as well as there's a lot of efforts in this area from National Security Administration they want to know about this instability because it's driving some things in the environment. So that there are thirty basic What do you mean by a buoyancy driven flows so buoyancy driven flows if you've not heard you must have heard about the really. If you don't know what I'm going to talk about if you drink coffee in the morning and I like to take my coffee with milk always because i can they get a black coffee or the milk and I can see the structure forming both structures are basically driven by relating to instability what that instead it is basically you have to flow it's you can have a heavy fluid fluid in a gravitational field or the explanation which is given from every to light and you become unstable they'll try to make any kind of perturbation and use the most that's much easier if i have anybody to be asian this boat a bit of a dry and at the end of day the. To makes two different foods which are two different densities our interest is to figure out what drives this force what is the driving mechanism which drives this mixing and is there a way to point to fight there. And for quantification we are looking at films which is called density Congress I'll talk a lot about that this is at one number it's just density does between these two flu it's not enough. And the driving mechanism which happens is if you if your idea about a clinic or a city question there's a by opening the talk and. So in this case you are below comes from density difference between these two fluids and then becomes from your pressure gradient because of the gravitational. And the cross product defines what's going to be your and want to hold the city deposited this is what a city deposit it was. But if you want to take a step back and just look at inflated mechanics What are different ways the study problem so there are three different problems you look at what is a very simple problem of mixing of bodies and that's a scalar and the passive scalar does not belong to a class it's a model you can develop and things will be basically normally that in species there's no density changes or you're looking at how basically moves in the flow. But then there's a second clause which we're going to look at today is mixing of fluids the child different densities and when the mix happens between these two fluids the dynamics of the mixing is driven by what they will also to feel also so the dynamics will drive the mixing of the flow so that's called us to do your second kind of mixing and it's driven in the thermal convection you have already had like a village in flows you can have this in the mix convection reason of washing flows so there's a very dynamic system which is driving through and the third thing which is in the aerospace industry is think about is OK I want to burn something. I want to run things at the heart of the you're looking at things that if you mix two different flu it's not the mixing between those who feel it's the it's a third species and you want to look at what that species rate will be so that's your combustion supernova and all those things into it is the question I'll do mostly focusing on more how the makes in the fluids and different density that's affected by dynamics of the flow and vice versa. So so I'll come but. Let me quote something so a James Bond movie everybody have heard he likes to take his ring shaken not stirred so that he did there's a two different ways of mixing you're thinking about if you start something it's just creating a large motion of the flow for you you don't know what the molecule level of mixing so in trainmen has to a different than what you define mixing what I'm showing there right now is just in trainmen it's just a fluid into fluid B. and you're just defining what being trained part is if you want to do you know what the level of making is you have to do molecule or mixing resume there to see what exactly is fluid if would be in point five all infractions are in their different ways we're going to be. Most of the people so far in this field they were always interested in and iteration and which is just in Feynman and they said OK I just get obeying trainmen If the density contrasts between these two fluids small so I am the both of us approximation feel as them everything is mix in that So that's that's whole people have looked at this area. So. I. Said You start with something which is looks like some perturbation and it grows into looks like something like in train reason where it goes through three different states so that's from the experiment the image from our experiment so the three stages that she have a very early phase you have initial bit of exponential growth of very small put a big. Having the flow feel that perturbation will grow and as the amplitude starts to grow and amplitude is half of the variable and they start to merge so the so let's think about you have different things which is moving up and down so the movement of each is affected by what the next neighbor element is moving so that's basically going to be called a bubble measure and when I say a bubble and Spike I'm going to differentiate between fluid which is falling down the food which is falling down is going to be called spike food which is rising the light food which I did that's going to be called Bubble. So the light fluid which is moving up and you can just think aboard buoyancy drag forces which is acting on that so in an independent ration of these two it will depend upon what the neighboring elements is doing. So people have looked at different methods of trying to do for gunshot model which is a recent model that looks at after a certain point in there isn't thought a cream the bubble velocity becomes constant so the bubble is going into constant velocity That's the prediction they have and if you think about. Things like if it was a heavy fluid and density contrast is almost like one that's like a free falling free fall out for a given object there should go as a splash which is what you would gravitation and fluid which happens in the flow field so that's what the velocity would look at. Here in this region is what we call a mode coupling so they're different Mort's which are generated and at the end of the after the more couples there will be a dominant mode which gets created so which is the most dominant mode and that dominant more they'll drive you intertainment region so there are two different things we want to understand in this know what drives this coupling of the more what's happening which is the most dominant mode and and the only thing is that of the that we can think about it can control the mixing will be which means is there are they for me to perturb the system in such. The only that the memory of initial kind of condition still persisted the late thing that's a couple of ideas that we're trying to do and why that is important because. If this flow reserve then the field condition memory at late again you can use that as a tracer you know what level of mixing you have at certain point. So I'll come back to that that's that's the whole thing which we have started looking into this. Is the the the turbulent flow field which gets created in these kind of environment is much different than what you have in the Komodo. So a little flow is not. That you cannot as a single fluid dynamics of the looking at single fluid mixing in there a little of those so you can start plotting as we go to the gates of the tickets on that minus five Third you can see for very simple cases but there it is that show that it's not. Just what is Why do we care so so from the initial eighty of the having spent looking at ocean makes clear what's going on in that environment but my interest basically comes from these three projects so I'm interested understanding so on the sold out that direction sight of the surface of the sun you have this solar granules which I get from so what drives these structures and it's not really here but the know the nature of people became very recently last year which looked at what what is the reason of these formation these are just the ONLY from Tommy convection is there some other driving mechanism which is going on Fernando they have postulated that it might be coming from late in the flows that drives these bubbles Spike structure which is similar there and it was there in the in the still World which was done by the fuller convection they thought these new structure which is very similar to the flows so one of the interests which we are trying to do here is to. Understand when you have a very large density country is it possible to understand what drives this makes in and I'm looking at very large and city countries most of the work is done for low density country so far. The other area which I am involved with is looking at a national confinement fusion that's an area in which they're trying to create an environment to achieve fusion and this is done at Lawrence Livermore National and the idea here is you take a large amount of energy from the laser deposit on a target which is very small and these targets are made of isotopes of hydrogen and they're going to basically bombarded a lot of energy that they want to fuse but the problem is when they make this Stargate and to get the energy from the laser who the target they have in my data which is but really I'm rich absolves I made a blitz and when the ablation happened the shock front goes inside but when the shock is going in it's taking some of the but helium material in the you know to try to make the capsule that you have from knowing that they're in compressing simply you know to hydrogen fuel you're compressing hydrogen fuel as by the amount of the things which you have which is the higher density seen are going to get the same Come pressure and that means you're not going to get the compression required for reaching high pressure high temperature for fusion and that was one of the reason if you they saw in the C N N Last year there was a failure of the near what they were thinking aboard they're going to achieve fusion of good which is three times more energy than what they're putting in They've almost like point eight zero point nine And I think that's led to a boat five billion dollars of their spend in the last ten years and I think their fundamental issues the board the toppling of these things and the idea they had at that point in early two thousand is if I'm driving that such a large force and you have such a short. There's mixing will not take place in that timeframe this is a very short time frame for it makes a brilliant. With other targets so if my energy is pretty large I don't have a problem with this mixing and that's what the reason if you look at the progression of the NIF it came from that which was fifty lasers and all the A hundred ninety two but first this is all it is moved towards If I start putting in the Laser I think I should be able to teach compression which is required. From the mathematics time point this comes back to why it's not a call go for you so if you look at that and also average equation. It's very similar but in this is when you have variable density flows you get a. Which depends upon the coupling of your density and you will also be fluctuations The These times are not both so for for the closer you need to have definitions of density of and also be crossed correlation and we need to know this so we are looking at methods they can try to get the values of those times from our experiments and this is much different than what people have been in that she had given and let me point out one more thing and she had them in flow which is very different so most of the fluid are problems which was done with a single fluid but the Shia in that ship production your kind of energy production or some mean velocity gradients in this is that's not true then there's the dominant forces direction of the acceleration so it's a gravity for the same being the Shah given for the of a shot which has the preferential direction so it's a different flow feel so so expecting it the dynamics which is right when you mean production is different by that later time to dissipate and everything to behave the same as one of the flow what was a very simple approximation we can do no we are doing this calculation of looking at these things and we know that this is not true it might look like my math third but we don't know whether it's going to happen in every environment which has these kind of. Probably the sciences who are pushing why this is different. So it is a local problem it's still a local. It can if you go very far it can but in most other dynamics of the system which we are driving we don't have a fire feel environment. When they need to open a system after a couple of decades you will see in the sheer flows you start looking at looks like a corner of it does. Yet. Have a. Perfect. Near the surface. So to look at the closer people have done this work over the last sixty five years and they try to look at different things is it possible to have been clean man which is done in the height so height is what we're going to call and they say OK I know that for the free fall it should go as square as it has like a square let's put a come there and maybe I'll fall is maybe depend upon density can dress or may not be dependent on city countries so they looked at different experiment from fifty years to our late two thousand and at that point they were more interested in just looking at what they meant but later from two thousand people started looking at OK in shame it is not Don't leave a we can define this problem we need to know what they're told in the statistics what the opening the brain is doing what the Flextronics that's what other group is mostly are looking at and we're trying to do with the P. I mean at the measurements to get our local measurement of these things and then build up on the whole structure. So here's some of the previous work which was done on the cob this is a very classical vocal lead and this is still one of my favorite both because what they did is they put a system of two fluid. Put it on the rail system and they can move it to different gravitational forces so they were changing not just the fluid but their change in the gravitational forces which you have so exploration due to gravity it was in the system so it was not an image it was just what you get on the twenty meter but they went below a hundred G. experiment they did in this but the diagnostics was not very clear so they can get some makes there but they don't know what exactly is makes at that point they only know the extent of that makes. That was the work done at U.K. Cambridge and I. Thought this was a very clever expand because what they did was they have stored quarters and and basically a pure water the put a plea and they retracted the plate so basically heavy a light it's going to make and they can do in this environment very nice flows lation so they did the imaging at this point but the system was limited to very low density contrast that was the one big problem. Similar to that more other group did was a Texas individual before me Malcolm And he built a water tunnel and he transformed this problem from a box type with something which is a convective system so they said OK let's try to float two different fluids at the same velocity but different densities and then we're going to look at how they're mixing So this is basically a cold water this is hot water and they start to makes and these are the concentration we can look at backlit system what the mixers. But he did a one thing which was very interesting he did the salt and you'll want to experiment and added the acid and base in these two and look at the final killing by the concentration of bad diet changing and acid and basic and controlled that gave him a direct measurement of the mixing it is. That's the replica of this and these the same density matched if they did or water and cold water but that this was a salt and water. But but all this work if you look at it this is. Limited to a very dense low density contrast they're looking at to add one number for both point zero zero zero one that's a very low density. This is the whole don't add Wisconsin what they did was they said OK there's a different problems which we can look at here is what's going on with the initial condition as the S. and we go higher density country. So they did this system in a magnetic The logical fluid so they added this to be am on a fluid over the water they can shape the M.R. fluid the demand they feel they have so they can put a different experiment they set it up and then they do is this a magnetic field so they can remove it from a bit and then the fluid mixes so this is the case you start with something that you have any nice sinusoidal And then if it just a pure air you don't think any kind of mushroom structure you just see a penetration and that is going on but the problem with this system was it's very hard to control it and at the same time when you do I'm off the optical diagnostics with that does not allow you to happen it's not a laser beam started going into X. ray which has a very low resolution. This is a what I call is a medieval device for torturing you can remove that but this is basically a sledge system they have this is a work done at Jacob's group in Arizona and I think what they're trying to do is they can change the explanation due to gravity they can hear on that liquid which have mass densities so no you don't have problem with the density contrast that the optical diagnostics and they can use like they're not limited to just using water they're using different fluids so they can go to high density countries they can do experiments for admissable as well as immiscible fluids and they're done to live similar to the image group they did with forced and then UN forces what they call is a normal perturbation you can have on a fluid and let it go for certain. This sure that for both force and. Condition the growth rate is basically the same and their logic was that this experiment I can say now that memory of financial condition is not present in really telephotos So that's that's what I want to mean there's a game on and I think this paper is coming on in twenty fourteen. So if you want to summarize what's what's going on in this area and you would like to have based upon all the world and application site you want to be in the far right corner of the on the clean pad I'm going to. This is the add one number has density Conversely you have the one row two there's just one minus through two so if you have very large density countries it means one and if it's a low density contracted for that's. So what you have here. Is most of the world which is done it's done till point one where they have very good data in looking at but also D.C. and the patent meters. So we wanted to come and do work in this area and look at the start of sticks so that's what my main interest was. So to do that we have developed this system there it's in the same technique as flowing water but rather than flowing water we have gone to a wind tunnel kind of system where we are doing flowing gases so it's a multi-year system on the left on the right which I'm showing is a was in one point zero schematic and on the left is mine wasn't two point zero which would have gone from a system that used to be a four system to something which is a suction system similar to abandon what he had on the right is you're going to have which can be sucked within the suction system and flow and the lead between the density contrast is you have multiple layers in one of those near the port helium so it's air and air plus helium mixture so that's why we are reducing the density between the two fluids so if you do it and it lets helium and you let it flow. You start looking at something which is a vortex basically that you are a late in life is a. Good thing about this one is no I can change I can run you would helium I've gone to add one number zero point seven five So I basically changed the they didn't which previous work was that they're gone to a very high number system so that's what the main innovation in this technique which we've got but the other thing this weekend doing all the time I was doing a lot of work with the shot you can do a lot of the optical diagnostic technique in this to understand the dynamics of the flow. Phone. So we do that we see if I can show you the real thing from the real thing here there are different control mechanism which you have to there's a buffers the chair there so you control it so you basically start to experiment with a very controlled velocity. Very controlled for lots and so the match the velocity if need be for the star. There's not but we have done an experiment where we wanted to know and I would show some work on that is when you have both here and points it will start at what point point C. dominates the flow I know that buoyancy go this is it will dominate the for at some point so we want to look at it in the Richard Sambrook right at what Richardson number is basically dominant. Let me run the video so you will see it's it's mashed or not. So these are. Two fluid such as running and you can see that there may be a small difference but it's not that large and you can be thin look at OK what this year is going to be so we can control this so this is two fluids in B. and the top one is basically you have air and then here comes the helium in the bottom and you start seeing the mix becomes looks like that you split. And since we're here let me play the other one which will show you when we started with the shear case. So if you start with the sheer case. And one sweep. You'll see what happens to this year's structure so I'll let you watch and then I'll explain what's going on in there. So now he has put the helium on so the controls on the helium could be turned on because helium prices are very expensive and in one experiment he ran a boat thirty million tanks which is closer to thousand dollars so if your kids don't have a helium balloon I can blame my graduate student. So the good point about this one is we have done this experiments for like maybe two to three minutes and we can sit in the flow feel a bit of a hard time as women are different and we can take studies Stickney study data so this is a very studied stickle study system that's that's the main point which we're trying to drive. So there's a sense of we have different diagnostics we can look at. Point measurement we can do field measurements and we can do like flow behind the field we can look at all the what the structures are just so the one sample image which we have at a certain point and these are basically the spikes you can see the bubble and if you do the board it's on till you can see that these are very nice symmetric Spike Spike and both of these were done for low density countries so this was the match with the water experiment we wanted to make sure that there is getting the same data people have got for the water flows. With him here's the difference between if you do a low versus high density and very low density contrast along the centerline you basically have very symmetry growth of the system if you start going at a higher density contrast you'll start seeing that bubble is not rising that much and Spike is falling falling down more so the new writer will start looking at is symmetry in the flow and the law is the question why this is important why isn't it because if you're following the system and writing my question I'm writing for the base flow system I have to know where exactly is the makes clear to. Where the mix layer is dominated more by the spike which has a very large density contrast than the bubble or not so I can do a business approximation for to get Does that make I need to have of flow defined for each Pedia of distribution what the distribution looks like. And we can start looking at that in a different way to quantify the dynamics so what I've done here is I've begun about four hundred images these are backlit system and we have seeded with this smoke and then we can have a small point if the done with the some kind of a trace of what the depth will be what the B.S. number of long term self absorption is that's looking at the absorption technique I can separate the height of the bubble height of the spike and if I think that gradient of this whole this is going that's going to give you the growth rates and it looks like as they go in late time the growth rate for the bubble falls down to be about point zero four and there's a lot of. Uncertainties given that is not of jumping in the data which won. So hard to get it basically you have a winner when the. If. It's miss is going to be. Quite easy. And I'm writing you for it basically at a spike and now I can take the difference in my ears nothing but in the Space X. from where you. So this is just a different I'm doing for there the data I would need is what I am getting. But no let's So that's where the global mixing But now let's take a laser sheet and start to the center plane and look at what's going on in the structure. So the cut through the center plane we're seeing not a very nice smooth so let me remind this before I go. This is also sent a plane or through with the very nice smooth structure that you seem to flow from. Not if you are to the plane. You're not seeing a smooth structure you're basically looking at some kind of a dent right structure which is in Cup interpenetrating in the different fluid. So what happens is you can think a board and the buoyancy drag system the the light fluid which at the bottom does not have enough inertia to stop the heavy fluid which is coming down so now it can penetrate and penetrate more at least the small scale structures on the edges of this that it is very large element had most flow through in which gets generated along the penetration This is very similar when I did my shock to both you saw this and the thing when for the shell driven system we didn't see a very nice spike you saw fragmented spike so that was a very interesting observation done in this flow and what we did was we looked at very close to this and wanted to see OK Is there some kind of uniform structure of this takes place and if you do the Yeah it shows that the structure is there a very much fragmented so basically it's going to lead to very large mixing along that line where you have the spike structure but rest of the flow going to be very mixed and so it's going to be fuel fluid which going to be there. Why this wasn't interesting because in point well and this is the result of a just last year for twenty people there was a paper which came out looking at. Single mode so just a single bubble. With a different. Packages they did a simulation and they saw that the penetration of these spikes are much different depending on in one case it was mixing quite a bit at the early phase in the second one it kept penetrating for a longer time so we were not sure which model is the right model or not and that's a single Morsi don't have a neighboring elements which is affecting the flow that's you're looking at single. In the there was another paper going to eleven which also looked at that but that look for multimode environment and this all. This fragmented structure also and the ball well Spike was very small in this area so the whole controversy going on is that really true or there's something missing in the code so when we did the similar experiments it looks like the fact that it's such a very clear indication of these kind of slow forward laws density country all over these are not as drastic as what these simulations are predicting so it was not as Bostic that where you're getting a very long tail but a lot of small scale for this is which is this looks like you're creating more artificial gradients in the flow feed. So once behind there do you want to look at OK what's what's going dominate in this world in terms of and also to feed so we did yesterday at the different location I'm going to. I'm showing these three different. Notes. And I'm showing these lines it just tells you where the the full field I am so flow is going from right to left so this one is very early so you're looking at very close to the split up late you have already got in both you prime and the plane and you prime is my stream values and the prime is my cross string systems across them is in the same system where you have the radiation and. As you move don't string you're looking at the mixing Lee It is this really moving down so it's not centerline mixing there but the maximum velocity for this system has now shifted more to work but the spike is so it's more in the Spike dominated reason so the shift of this is taking place in the media was more to what the spike and we have calibrated are different and also some what it looks like and the only thing that you're saying it's not a very nice girls in the good bits and on the center it's I don't I'm a clear which is shifted towards the bottom fluid. The in this one. So the. One basically come in because the things are very life so we're looking at about. Twelve to sixteen inches the way we are doing that if you're taking images of the three different camera because we can only look at small so three cameras and he is stitching basically three with one data two data and three data that's why you're seeing that and the match is fine you can see there the way that's what's getting you. And the next one was like OK if I want to if I want to look at the system the question is are we in the cells and the regime is the flow has reached a point where now I can drive these things and say I'll fall for the floor will be this and that and we've done only if you have a cell similarity So we looked at you prime. Fluctuation and we have basing on the missionaries that there's a number you infinity which came out from buoyancy fractal creation we did so we have come with this not domination which appears that but that not my mind so why didn't it flow has released into something which looks similar flaw with the late I mean this is very green and black the late payment of loafing So that's a very good thing because night say is that we end statistically similar and sell synergy so we plot the data that's giving you very good information about the flow field that's only in the stream by seven or so is that true even for crossing because that's my main interest is so if we do the processing look there OK yes it is true but the same on demonstration we can do that in across string but there's something else we learned there if you were to do this. There's value comes out to be your own point seven point eight but that if you have not demonstrated that you in twenty four the fluctuation comes out on one point five This tells you that the contribution coming from the spike side to this fluctuation is twice more than the bubble side so that the flow field has a much larger. Changes in the velocity feed on the spike and that is also true from the images they saw a lot of different structures which are created so it looks like your bubble is going to have a very nice smooth but also the feel and it's moving up but Spike is a very system which is not in the cells and I want to send somebody has a very large fluctuation for most of the mixing will be coming from your spike side of the field. And you want to look at OK what happens if I start looking at flow and see the media distribution of this different points in this system at the center line something ready have the. Bubble fluid and something have the spike food so we looked at three different and just and if I do that the fluctuation if you look at the center it's looks like applied to it so the chances of having a positive or negative fluctuation means finding spike at the center is uniform and that's not at the center of the mix there it's a cent over the maximum So this is where over the math is one that's what we call the center of the mix here and now they have shifted the things. The other way to look at the same side of sticks is to define the skewness And if you look at the skewness and produces of this flow that's going to give you the same information so the kudos for this flow if you have a boss in profile skewness will be this is three that's very similar to what we see for the blue which represents your stream. But if you start looking at drawstring you're seeing a very large eat in the flow and on one that seems that you almost. Spike side of the flow that's that's all information which is telling us it's giving you more information about the nature of the dynamics of that flow in the system. But that's only one part of the story that's only gives you the velocity is so since we have this point please measure mine and we have. Then up and you would take me where the helium in air so let's see that one of the flow feel the temperature so what I mean by that is let's heat one of the floor food by five degrees Celsius and use so you said for your temperature change identify what they're mixing is and this is what we're looking at different flow fields so blue one is the more one which we want to look at so that's where the center line of the mix and you can see it's very much uniform on the both side maybe this little bit on the spike but it's not that much different from the fluctuations. And even for if I want to go up and down these seems like a very much uniform so if I look at just the density feed it shows that the system and on the center line is much more uniform across the spike and bubble so maybe we need to do something else to figure out that So let me jump to that what we want to do so we wanted to look at an additional side to stick so let's let's figure out at the center line what some condition and started sticks to define what's the contribution of the Spike what's the contribution of the bubble the way you can do that it's like you can define that all makes and look at B. and B. priming that so so we looked at that and this is the result which is coming from here so you have defined the. Fluctuation in both sides if I know you do the contribution the fluctuations coming from but one spike it appears that but one has more fluctuations coming in the system which was a little bit different than when I had first said that you're most of the fluctuation it looks like coming in the post stream but and I said the statement that point I made was maybe the spike is driving on the fluctuation but that's a little bit different I should be more careful in saying that what it tells me that but will my deal has not mixed with the spike system but Spike some of the mass of the spike as the double so that mixing drives this to be higher year. A fluctuation in your brain so that's what we learned that if you combine those two and you pull out your noble and must like STEM so you get your rope right in the prime you'll see the same thing is a big spike it's just coming from you know to both sides in the spikes and they have equal contribution if you start doing in this way so even though you have an asymmetric flow feel country Bhushan from but when that spike in that. Is equal if I identify that in this problem so although I have a system which is very large but the time to Bishan is sitting. In that machine how much time have. You so the other problem which we did was that's one part of the story where we have identified so far that you have to look at these contributions coming from the spike in both separately we have additional statistics and if I what's the contribution done by the spike what's on the bubble. Then we look at this problem at the low density countries so I went back to the water tunnel and we added a flap put at the entrance so at the beginning of this very you have the flu or fluid and cold fluid coming in there's a flap and flap and basically a flap but a different order Beijing and that seats but. Then I'm a big wig so that's not a basically a dynamic it's a dynamic perturbation it's not a static but the vision which you're putting in we want to look at OK if I put up this and somehow I can change this perturbation to have one more two more three more look at what basically is driving in the early phase where the more appealing was for this experiment I was only interested in understanding the dynamics and the early phase of the system. The way we are doing this hot and cold water and you have very similar to the water to a guest and. These are some of the might is that just coming from the lips of you have seeded with the road in six you die and you have a laser coming from the bottom. Top one is when you have no flap so no flap means flap is stagnant and you have the flow coming in. That's your. Next one is when you're flapping it with a very small they haven't and so they've done this two centimeter in that case and if you see the difference between that is not that much which means I'm still in a region where the dominant mode in this case is either large it already put into that system that's all it's telling me if I was trying to find out what's the dominant mode which we have so we did this experiment to find out the dominant mode was about three point seven centimeter for the end based upon your spike based upon your plate thickness as well as what are the measures you have before that. So now I went to a very large system so I wanted to put a big very large and then add to a system and clear on stooping so what I want to play it on is does the phase angle between these modes have some impact so one of the when I did the math analysis it shows that if I do phase angle zero to one the I can make this or dancing what it says so that's that's what I was trying to look at is that something which I can look at this. For this is the eight centimeter he added two and then let's move to what happens if you start three more five more than if you start adding the number of modes which are very close to the smaller vehicle and they will basically big down the large payment structure and then train when will we look very similar to the eight centimeter but the mix which is happening in the system will be driven by the small skates which makes sense because you can buy the large scale but you're mixing is very by the small scale which are comparable in the energy so you can basically mix with the engine and we're still working on more so we have done this in the broadband versus we have done some analysis looking at what's the flow feel is right close to the system can we define what the vorticity is what the initial deposit and because this is not a pure relate in a problem you have to understand you have a created because you're putting the slab so we have to. We have to quantify that and to be coming from just you know fly. Motion what's coming from the. So that. In this case it's this one is coming from the hip sharing that's where you're seeing this very large so. Yes we did the purity analysis for this so we have data I know where we can quantify what's the contribution coming from related was the contribution coming from shedding of that what it is. And that's not something which I'm talking about but looking back to more the church talked about before it was if you're going back to the gas if I started that she had an buoyancy boat. So that's a problem of that you just you were there later lesser there's no Shia this is us here and this is where the combined thirty looks like at the early phase it looks very similar to only and late times it is something similar to the late in a phase and a lot of the growth and I did some analysis on that there is said OK let's figure out what happens for D.H. over D.P. So we just differentiated there and it appears that if you have a very late in the it would be if I do that becomes a function of teeth Richard Believe me a growing function if you're happy or she or it should be a constant system and if you combine that it shows that it's a constant that starts moving toward something that appears there might be something going on in this reason and I don't want to call it transition but this something looks like flow goes from dominated by here to dominated by buoyancy so let's look at criteria which can be used to point to fight there so they went to the criteria for charts a number which quantify is the amount of potential energy versus the kinetic energy have in the system at that point and we did describe it in appears that four different things we changed it into all these in the Richardson number around minus one point five to two point five where this transition takes place and we did this for the different numbers. With that said it means like you can write this in a very simple form a bit out there that he would define the time to come. From you and Alfred you describe which is the contribution coming from you want to see a different system. And then we're going to head and look at different things but our lot show this to let's show something which. Is very interested in which we phone so since we had the data from other Shia cases and and buoyancy pushchair cases and wanted to look at more in the analysis what is the kind of the energy generated in the flow versus the potential energy are we reaching some kind of cells and that is that the dissipation and energy will be a constant from value so that's what they're trying to look at so the only hard data for you and the so I said OK spam values that action should be very similar to the stream bias because there's nothing happening so they should look similar in this book so I made that what they were getting from my stream bodies but the spine was equal and that used to calibrate the kinetic energy potential energy I just integrated the energy across the mix layer which we have so that gives me the potential energy and I wanted that. Different without any fear so when I say as you know here I'm increasing the density contrast density contrast if you look at it in there you know a potential energy is going to be a constant value both point six years which means your dissipation is aboard point three three so that's what it's coming out to be in normally a low density contrast you're looking this up one point four You point five That was something which you saw that the dissipation has decreased because the industry is much larger it's basically creating more and more scales but still at the early phase of dissipating has not happened at that large scale which we have and also second thing maybe you have to look at is potential energy is very large because the density countries which have so this a patient potential energy at large flows is a value of a boat point three three that's what we saw in this case we then the same thing and we did this analysis for what happens if you have sheer and buoyancy combined. If you have sheer important seat. I'm buying it appears at very late I mean the kind of big energy but you have in the system over kinetic energy of leaves a potential at least goes to about a value zero point three five which means dissipation is much larger in that case the dissipation comes out to be able to point six three and that is seems to be right because all the initial kind of energy which are given in the flow has now dissipated at the late time and that's where dissipating was large at that point for that's what because we're going to be on standby you know. If we stop that's one of the main thing which we saw was that the kind of energy dissipation system gives you about point three six point three seven depending upon what we have. And if I have one minute let me show because they're due to talk to them so I think some of this would do is to take the same problem and not shock it with a high so we can basically run experiments at very high mark numbers so we're looking at Mach number three it's the point. In the way I've done this experiment is they have designed a new system to go at any angle and the reason I wanted to go in the angle was if you look at your better clinic talk there's a cross-product there so the question was asked if this is a cross-product Why not just Gene the angle very you have same pressure gradient same density gradient and But amount of energy deposited by claiming that angle then this is the make I incline interface in planning to if it will look like something like a triangle if you have a shock when I come from left to right and then claim into phase which is created by flowing a light guess from the top heavy guess from the bottom it's nice at the start mission and the start mission plane I'm basically taking a suction board which takes the floor we can control the amount of diffusing which happens by controlling the eight at which this action. And it's a good experiments in this case because we can only quantify them on. Here production in this case from coming from the shot as coming from the. The momentum of this Wolf. And these are some of the world which we are doing we have a lot of data which we have done and is a very interesting because we're the only group which we can do non-simultaneous density but also at him as a Marine at these high and high density controls for a number of experiments so I'll stop at that I will I'll take any questions. Yes. So it so if you do. And I'm just looking at their fluid which is which is the fluid in the Now What is a hot fluid it's going to be a seam really in steady and the density countries because of that temperature is small you're going to see very uniform when it's very uniform. But if you know make this a very large lake a structure which is a very high heat it full system then you're not going to see a very uniform so if you want to see something like the the heart fluid which is falling in and looks like a spike it's basically like a finger which is happening. So we can do baking waves right now. So what we can do in this in water is a very tough challenging because of the surface tension of the things which takes place in most of these experiments they're not more expensive water they mostly dealing with either two fluid which are. An air and something which is. A. Simulation can be done. Yes. So that's where we got the idea so it's a number of ideas as well as you could partition of this energy for accounting and you put and came from I was looking at the literature in oceanography So that's how I got the idea to like OK let's let's define something and define the energy which is coming from the kind take an educated and potentially educated and separate them out for some hall figure out what's coming from. And take an idea which I have to something which is generated in the cross train direction because of the gravitational field. We don't we don't. Know so so so what we have is like what we did recently. So. We looked at this data in terms of a thirteen point early phase we did hard wired as a means for all the components and we looked at what the more the company does hold their braking and changes their different spaces and then we did the auto correlation between them to see what it was spreading in the energy or things were changing the board company that's only one which we have done so far in terms of understanding what exactly is happening in terms of more the company. You. Have to so this is growing if you make this small and small base you want to grow at that point of funding going to happen you won't be able to move so you need to move it so you can see it but the only thing which we are doing with the conviction is in a box system I can stand outside the box and I can look at was things are going but in that system like we have in the convict I need to convict the whole thing so it's a convention speech should not matter if I can make it very fast I reduce my pain but I can record very small defang going to have become a big mix going to happen and when I heard the. You know. So that that's. So so we don't see any. We don't see any something in this. So. We do. That Rick Yes So basically the self-sustaining flow for what's coming from each of these structures if we think about it only point what you have is you know have you food it's been trading down your light food and then they're basically creating a shit in the system that the South sustaining mechanism. So what we expect is if I go very late and in this case that dissipate help attention it came out to be around the point three three it should increase and it should be about what kind of energy dissipation should come out to be one so then it becomes its own energy but I don't think for that to happen we probably have to go very long so that would only be true if your decision skills are very very large and very small and you have very large Lenski which I created in the large number of Mortes which you have. So we're looking at sort of seven Live gives you the model of mixing. Yes So. Since you are from the. So what do you can do is once you have the live data you can basically define bank words while it makes impediment at data space it tells you how much is the mix and haul much is the unmixed and if you're big that they show that it will give you the made up images of your base you look at it up and with the protein and since we also did the point that made with this heated system so we have point might have very large flock to it so we have a very large a slow fill environment they eat at their data was collected because acetone is only giving you one image is a true image is this not a very large data sets.