[MUSIC PLAYING] (SINGING) Gloom, despair, and agony on me Deep dark depression, excessive misery If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all Oh, gloom, despair, and agony on me. CHARLIE BENNETT: You are listening to WREK Atlanta. And this is Hee-Haw. No, this is Lost in the Stacks, the research library rock and roll radio show. I'm Charlie Bennett in the studio with everybody, Fred, Alex, Marlee, and Cody. Each week on Lost in the Stacks, we pick a theme and then use it to create a mix of music and library talk. Whichever you tune in for, we hope you dig it. ALEX MCGEE: Our show today is called more bad luck and trouble. As we broadcast, it is June 13, 2025, and it's a Friday. MARLEE GIVENS: And sometimes, when Friday the 13th rolls around, we devote a show to one of the many misfortunes that befall libraries, archives, and the world of information. FRED RASCOE: It's already giving me the heebie jeebies. ALEX MCGEE: I know. And what's worse, we are going to talk about something that happened right here at Georgia Tech library last year. CHARLIE BENNETT: It was quite the ride, and we decided to get back on it. MARLEE GIVENS: That's right. Today, we're going to relive an event that befell the Georgia Tech Library, the campus wide chilled water outage, which led to rising temperatures and even more alarming for our librarians and archivists, rising humidity levels. So gather round as we retell this true story in all its gory detail and how it unfolded on the ground for us in the library. CHARLIE BENNETT: I don't if I want to do this now. I'm having a little bit-- ALEX MCGEE: We've come too far. You can't turn around now. FRED RASCOE: I'm getting a little PTSD about this. OK, so our songs today are about disasters of water, disasters of heat, all kinds of bad luck and trouble. And optimism - CHARLIE BENNETT: Right on. FRED RASCOE: I guess? Well, it may be hard to be in an up mood considering the giants of music that passed this week. But it's summer and it's a time for fun and optimism, no matter how much bad luck and trouble comes our way. So let's start with one of the most well-known and well-loved summer anthems by an artist who passed away earlier this week at the age of 82. This is Hot Fun in the Summertime by Sly and the Family Stone. ["HOT FUN IN THE SUMMERTIME" - SLY AND THE FAMILY STONE] CHARLIE BENNETT: That was Hot Fun in the Summertime by Sly and the Family Stone. Our show today is called more bad luck and trouble. I believe it's the fourth episode of bad luck and trouble that we've gotten into because it's Friday the 13th. We're remembering the chilled water emergency, which began on July 26, 2024. Do you all remember that? MARLEE GIVENS: I do. I mean, it's one of those things that, how they say, it's like gradually then all at once. CHARLIE BENNETT: Yes. MARLEE GIVENS: That was my experience. I was just like, oh, it's a little warm in here. Oh, it feels a little humid. Oh, I noticed the air is not running. And yeah, we were all just kind of casually making comments about, is it warm in your office? FRED RASCOE: And it was warm here in the studio. MARLEE GIVENS: It was. Yeah. CHARLIE BENNETT: This was a Friday, July 26, 2024. And I think that show that we were doing that day, we mentioned on air-- FRED RASCOE: At least one person said. It seems warm in here. CHARLIE BENNETT: It's very hot in here. So I believe everyone has a sense of what's coming. Chilled water emergency must mean something about temperature, but I think we should let people know how HVAC works at Georgia Tech, or for a good chunk of the Georgia Tech campus. Because it was very strange to me when I learned how we heat and cool the buildings. Does anyone want to start or shall I dive in? FRED RASCOE: Yeah, HVAC is magic to me. So why don't you start. CHARLIE BENNETT: This is kind of alchemical itself. Yeah. So, as it turns out, and I am not an engineer nor a scientist-- ALEX MCGEE: But you went to Georgia Tech. CHARLIE BENNETT: I did go to Georgia Tech. Ivan Allen, College of Liberal Arts. ALEX MCGEE: There you go. CHARLIE BENNETT: So there's two big pipes. [LAUGHTER] We use steam and chilled water to do campus-- almost campus wide. I mean, when the campus was much smaller, it was a single unified system. But there's been expansions, so there are satellite chunks and also there's four pipe systems and all that. But the thing that happened here is the two pipe system had a terrible failure. And a two pipe system is when you put hot steam through one pipe all the time in all the buildings, so they keep the buildings warm. And in the summer, and this is what I'm told, the steam keeps going, but the chilled water goes in and they overcome the steam heat with the chilled water. It must be very cold water. Marlee is nodding like she knows, or at least you've heard this, too. MARLEE GIVENS: I have heard it, but I kind of guessed it because, in the old office that Fred and I used to work in, I remember there would be days when we'd walk in and we would only be experiencing the hot air and kind realize that, oh, the cold part is not doing anything. But mostly, it's that week between semesters when they turn all the steam off and we only get the cold air. CHARLIE BENNETT: Yeah, and that can be brutal on its own. So there's a plant underneath the whistle, and the whistle is near the football stadium. It's a landmark on campus. It goes off at this point, it just goes off whenever is how I experience it, although I'm sure there's a schedule. ALEX MCGEE: There is a schedule. CHARLIE BENNETT: There's not really a schedule. ALEX MCGEE: It's kept by like an atomic clock or something like that. I'm not making that up. CHARLIE BENNETT: I know you're the university archivist, but I don't believe you. [LAUGHTER] From the way that just the random-- I mean, it used to be five minutes before and five minutes after the hour. And now it's like, is that 15 after? What is that? I don't know. It might be accurate, but it is weird. ALEX MCGEE: Sure. I'll give you that. CHARLIE BENNETT: All right, cool. So the chilled water-- oh, the chiller. It's called the chiller, which seems so silly. I can't even remember it. But the chiller is underneath the whistle and it has a big pipe. And there was at least one leak, if not multiple leaks. ALEX MCGEE: And then, there was another leak. CHARLIE BENNETT: And then, there was another leak. [LAUGHTER] ALEX MCGEE: On a different part of-- yes, a different part of campus. FRED RASCOE: Failure cascaded. MARLEE GIVENS: Yes. CHARLIE BENNETT: Let me read you an email that went out at 6:00 PM on July 26. This was from GTENS, The Georgia Tech Emergency Notification System. This is a GTENS inform from the Georgia Tech Police Department. Infrastructure and sustainability, which is a department or a division, is aware of ongoing chilled water outages across campus. I&S working diligently to restore chilled water to buildings, and will continue to work through the weekend. Spoiler alert, it was longer than that. If you have temperature sensitive equipment or research on campus, please monitor your areas over the weekend and communicate with your building manager. Anticipate impacts to continue into next week. For updates regarding the outage, please visit the link below. Additionally, due to the chilled water outage at the John C. Lewis Student Center, we will be closed through Monday at 7:00 AM. Again, it was a little longer than that. This had COVID vibes all over it. FRED RASCOE: We were all sent home. CHARLIE BENNETT: We were sent home. MARLEE GIVENS: We were, yeah. ALEX MCGEE: Well, really, we were told don't come in also. CHARLIE BENNETT: Yeah, I've got some-- I've got a message from later that weekend. But yeah, the temperatures all started rising because the steam was going crazy. The buildings all started to get really hot. ALEX MCGEE: Well, and it was late July in Atlanta, Georgia, which is already hot and miserable outside. CHARLIE BENNETT: I mean, it's the middle of June and I had to walk a little extra and I'm sweaty. FRED RASCOE: The thermostat in my office was in the 80s somewhere. It was like about 84 or 85 last time I saw it before I-- MARLEE GIVENS: And it wasn't just the heat, it was the humidity. FRED RASCOE: And all over campus. And they were working diligently to find where the leak actually was. CHARLIE BENNETT: Do you remember how many feet underground the leak turned out to be? ALEX MCGEE: No, I do not. CHARLIE BENNETT: 20. ALEX MCGEE: Wow. And again, one of the leaks, we should say. CHARLIE BENNETT: So there was a rapid temperature drop in the-- excuse me. A rapid pressure drop in the early morning of July 26. So it started happening long before it became an emergency. And Jim Stevens, I believe, is the head of I&S or the vice president in charge of infrastructure and sustainability. And he says in an article about this that as soon as he saw the pressure drop, he knew what it was because they had done drills on this. Because they all knew, one day, the pipes from the '60s were going to have a break in them. And unfortunately, this break was deep underground. OK, any last thoughts before we go into a music set? Anything from the setup to chilled water? FRED RASCOE: I only remember that they desperately tried patching it by finding chilled water pipes that were still working. Because there were a few on campus, and they were able to partially cool some buildings. So it wasn't a total outage 100% on campus, but it was 100% in the library. CHARLIE BENNETT: Oh yes. MARLEE GIVENS: Yeah, and thankfully, it was not just a single system, as you mentioned. In the old days, there was just the one pipe, or the one cold pipe and the one hot pipe that we had-- we had multiple systems that we-- that could potentially fail, but luckily, not all of them did. CHARLIE BENNETT: All those kids in the new dorms, they got lucky. [LAUGHTER] MARLEE GIVENS: This is Lost in the Stacks, and we will be back with more about pipes and problems after our music set. File this set under TH7466.5.H68. [VIDEO PLAYBACK] - It's an invitation only affair. We'll have to sneak in through the service entrance. - Hold on. Wait a minute. Who elected you leader of this outfit? Since we've been following your lead, we got nothing but trouble. I got this close to being strung up and consumed in a fire with no end and sunstroke and soggy. - Turned into a frog. - He wouldn't turn into a frog. [END PLAYBACK] [TORO Y MOI, "WAY TOO HOT"] MARLEE GIVENS: That was Way Too Hot by Toro y Moi. And before that, Heat Wave by Martha Reeves and the Vandellas. Songs about being overcome by the heat. [MUSIC PLAYING] This is Lost in the Stacks, and today's show is called more bad luck and trouble. And we're talking about last year's chilled water emergency on the Georgia Tech campus. CHARLIE BENNETT: In particular. MARLEE GIVENS: And I said, to me, it was like-- it felt kind of like a gradual and then all at once kind of situation. I mean, at what point did you all realize that it was an emergency? FRED RASCOE: I think, for me, when we were told that we just needed to stay home for a while, specifically told not to come in. CHARLIE BENNETT: Guess what? I got that email, too. July 28, late in the day, my department received this email, and I'm sure the other departments received some version. Good evening, all. Due to the many issues with the chilled water systems, Crosland and Price Gilbert are going to be very hot for the next two weeks. I strongly recommend-- that's in bold-- I strongly recommend that everyone work from home this week, especially if you may suffer health risks due to the heat. If you have to come to campus, wear cool, beachy clothes. Do not try to come in business casual. You can book a room in Clough to work if you have to be on site. Now, Clough was built in 2011, so it had some extra stuff going and it was cooler, not cool. As of this evening, Sunday evening, after the pipes all broke, we are closing off Clough from Price Gilbert and Crosland. Clough should start cooling tomorrow, and we want the students who are taking final exams-- that's what was happening, too. MARLEE GIVENS: I forgot about that. CHARLIE BENNETT: Final exams to be as comfortable as possible. Clough and the library are on separate systems. I will give you updates as I get them. We are moving library events that are in Crosland and Price Gilbert which may affect RATS night. FRED RASCOE: Another spoiler alert there. CHARLIE BENNETT: Let me use my narrator voice. It did affect rats night. So that's when-- I think that's when I really-- it was clear to me, oh, something's happening. And that, I think, is when I started having nightmares, too, because that was way too much like the COVID, don't come in for a few weeks. MARLEE GIVENS: It was. Yeah. FRED RASCOE: Except we could, because pretty soon after this, everyone in the library, especially the administration, realized, we still have about 30,000 books here in the library. And in archives, they realized, oh, we've got all this archival stuff. And the building temperatures in the high 80s, plus the uncontrolled humidity, very bad for those kinds of materials, and they had to do something about it. CHARLIE BENNETT: My personal version of this was we had just done a-- I'll call it a renovation. Did a renovation at the house, which moved bedrooms. And in order to clear out some space, I had brought to the office all of the photos that were stuffed in the closet. So the shoeboxes of photos, literally, and also some photo albums and just a lot of paper memorabilia for my family. Because the office is safe and climate controlled, so I could leave them there. And then, I found out, no, you've just put all of your memories into a mold growing environment. FRED RASCOE: And so, at the library, folks realizing this quickly mobilized. And I cannot remember the folks that led this charge. CHARLIE BENNETT: Randall. Randall for sure. Public services. So a huge shout out. FRED RASCOE: I want to make sure I shout out the right folks there. But there were teams to make boxes to put all these boxes away so we could take them to climate controlled storage until this all got sorted out. And there were teams that came in and vacuumed mold spores off of books, just going hour by hour, just book by book, just vacuuming. ALEX MCGEE: Well, I do feel like CHARLIE BENNETT: Let's back up a second. ALEX MCGEE: Yeah, we should explain why that had to happen. So the spots where the library had room to move books from when they're taking them out of these buildings is the Library Service Center and the Library Records Center. Both of those locations have archival collections, obviously, library service center also has Emory stuff, too. And rule number 101, if you have any suspicion of mold, you do not want to bring it in with your mold-free collections. So that was why there was no way that was coming near-- FRED RASCOE: It was a preemptive vacuuming. ALEX MCGEE: All our stuff. CHARLIE BENNETT: Here's the tiniest bit of science, too. So there's mold everywhere all the time. And we just have-- ALEX MCGEE: We keep it at bay. CHARLIE BENNETT: --conditions set to keep it from exploding, or The Last of Us situation. So we had to get all of those even remotely activated spores off of any surface that was going any of those places. So yeah, we had to assemble the boxes. Then, you had to vacuum the boxes, then you had to vacuum the books, and then you had to vacuum them again. That's hard to say. And then, wipe them down and then pack. And then, some people actually vacuumed the outside of the boxes again. FRED RASCOE: And then, put them on a cart, take them to the storage area. And this was all librarian employees-- library employees doing this in shifts. I think all of us did something. I did some box making, I did some vacuuming. CHARLIE BENNETT: I finally bought some noise canceling headphones [LAUGHTER] Vacuum situation. Because these are specialty vacuums that came from archives. ALEX MCGEE: Yeah, like HEPA vacuums. CHARLIE BENNETT: Alex, are you able to explain what a HEPA vacuum is? ALEX MCGEE: It has to do with the filtration of it, basically. A lot of people have HEPA air filters, too. That's usually like a step above the standard ones you have in your house. CHARLIE BENNETT: Much smaller holes in the filter to catch microbes and spores and things like that. CHARLIE BENNETT: Oh gosh. We're almost out of time in this segment. Is there anything anybody remembers from the vacuuming that sticks out? ALEX MCGEE: I didn't do any. [LAUGHTER] CHARLIE BENNETT: That's good. FRED RASCOE: Saved your ears. CHARLIE BENNETT: I remember seeing the person who wrote the email to us and someone else walking into the library in, quite literally, beach clothes. They took their own email seriously. FRED RASCOE: You are listening to Lost in the Stacks, and we're going to hear more about bad luck and trouble, this specific bad luck in trouble, I think, on the left side of the hour. [MUSIC PLAYING] MANDY: Hi, I'm Mandy, the accordion playing data librarian, and you are listening to Lost in the Stacks on WREK Atlanta. CHARLIE BENNETT: Today's show is called more bad luck in trouble. We're talking about the chilled water emergency at Georgia Tech last year. And I want to read you something from a student newspaper blog from Dordt University in Sioux Center, Iowa. I found this post just trawling the internet dated October 2024. It's the answer to a letter to the editor. Dear too hot to handle, I would like to begin by telling you that the library tends to fluctuate in temperature. During my research, I found out the system is not controlled by those occupying the space, but rather, it is on a set thermostat. It has also been said that during the changing of seasons, the air conditioner has a challenging time finding a happy medium. There are days when it seems cold and other days where it seems extremely hot. With that said, I was told there really is no reason it is always so hot. So it would be appreciated if we were patient as the seasons change, and hopefully, when winter hits, the system will be able to keep the room at the perfect temperature. Until then, I encourage you to walk into the library and think of it as going out to sit on a warm beach. Think of the sun shining down on you with the waves crashing in front of you. Imagine the peaceful environment as you open your book and soak in all the information that the pages are filled with. Think of all your peers who are from the warmer states, those from Arizona, Florida, and California. Think of the joy that the warm environment brings them. And then, maybe you, too, can begin to appreciate the sweat. Maybe, instead of a furnace, you can view the room as a place where the students can begin to feel more at home, and where they can finally be brought peace through the imaginary beach and the warmness that begins to make their hearts full once again. So although there is no exact answer to why the library tends to feel so hot, just think of the warmth and joy that it brings to so many others. Think of all the other happy places where the sun is still shining, and soak it all in while you still can. What an insane response. File this set under TS280.C7, and do not imagine a beach when you walk into the library. [VIDEO PLAYBACK] - Fire has got the temperature up all over the camp. - Won't last long, though. - Neither will we. - How will we make it? - Maybe we shouldn't. - If you're worried about me. - If we've got any surprises for each other, I don't think we're in much shape to do anything about it. - Well, what do we do? - Why don't we just wait here for a little while, see what happens. [END PLAYBACK] [KISSING CLUB, "WATER IN THE PIPES"] (SINGING) We don't need lights Yeah, we can hear the water in the pipes FRED RASCOE: Water in the Pipes by Kissing Club. Before that, Cold Water by Pedro's Basement. And we started with Broken Pipe by Dumb Numbers and Melvins. Those are songs about things going right and wrong with our infrastructure. [MUSIC PLAYING] ALEX MCGEE: This is Lost in the Stacks, and our show today is called more bad luck and trouble. We're talking about the chilled water emergency at Georgia Tech last year and what happened to the library. And in particular, we're going to talk about the archives because that's why I'm here. CHARLIE BENNETT: Yeah, that's why you're here, to talk about the water emergency. [LAUGHTER] We're singling out the archives because, as you've told us off air, there was a lot more going on. ALEX MCGEE: High drama. CHARLIE BENNETT: Can you lay out for our listeners the pieces of the archives that are in the Crosland tower? ALEX MCGEE: Yeah, so we have our archives reading room on the first floor of Crosland tower. And then, in the basement, we have our archives classroom, we have what is called the processing room, and then, we have our stacks, which also includes our temperature controlled vault. The stacks is where we keep, usually, some of our most valuable collections, same with the vault. They're the most used, the most high value. We like to keep them-- CHARLIE BENNETT: Most covered in mold spores. ALEX MCGEE: Yeah, exactly. Definitely the ones you don't want covered in mold spores. And so when this happened, I knew about it. I knew on Friday, and I had heard stuff over the weekend. And we were getting emails where we were literally getting the temperature and humidity percentages because we have humidity monitors in our spaces already. The rest of the library now has those, but the archives always did. And so we were very aware of, generally, when you go in the basement and the archive spaces in the basement, you're like, oh, it's cold in here. You want a sweater. And that was not the conditions that they were experiencing. So we were seeing numbers as high as almost 80 degrees in our basement. And they quickly did bring in dehumidifiers and particularly in the stacks. But our classroom, just a little background, we did not always have as much processing space for our student workers, our interns over the summer, our faculty that do processing work, like myself. We've since gained this space, but last summer, we were actually using the classroom for these folks to work over the summer. So we had collections in the classroom, and the classroom ended up being probably one of the worst spaces we had. CHARLIE BENNETT: Because these are all in the basement. ALEX MCGEE: These are all in the basement. And so, usually, you're like, the basement's cool. We don't have to worry about the basement. And the archives stacks in particular have their own system. And so, the classroom-- I wasn't there in person to experience it, but I was told by our assistant Dean Jody, she told me that you could walk in and immediately tell how high the humidity was and that it smelled. And so, for us, alarm bells are going off. We were very worried about the collections in there. CHARLIE BENNETT: So when you first grasped how extensive this was, what were you worried about the most? Was there a particular thing in the archives or a particular kind of thing? ALEX MCGEE: The oldest stuff. The oldest-- the old paper. I mean, our rare books. We have insurance on all this stuff, but some of these, I mean, it's literally irreplaceable. And I know this experience also highlighted us working with a disaster recovery kind of company to get a plan in place to help us get on the other side of what was happening. So Jody and Aisha, our Associate Dean that we report up to, they met with these firms and got each of them to give us proposals. I also remember Jody just being like, they could not grasp-- usually these people-- these are the people you respond when you have a leak. They were struggling to understand-- your what? Is the humidity like the chilled water? What? And so this was a different area for them. And so what the plan ended up being is that they were like, we bring in our own condensers. We were prioritized for the library and campus because of the value of stuff in our spaces. CHARLIE BENNETT: We can't just pack all that stuff up and carry it out. ALEX MCGEE: Yeah, we would have had-- I mean, and the emails we were getting when we were all being told, don't come in, we were also getting emails saying, don't come in. But if we need to get stuff out rapidly, we are going to ask you to come in work in the evening when you're not in less ideal conditions. So yeah. CHARLIE BENNETT: So it was real bad. But the nice thing about all this is that, ultimately, there was no horrible bad outcome. It kind of-- they fixed it, the folks on campus, mostly, although I think they're still doing certain tests and adding pipes. But I don't remember getting any notice about a disaster or some serious damage to the collections. Do you all know about anything that happened? FRED RASCOE: Nothing in archives had to be discarded, was it? ALEX MCGEE: No, nothing was discarded. We did have to have stuff professionally cleaned. CHARLIE BENNETT: Yeah, there was a lot of mitigation. And Jody once told me that she thought it maybe had just been too hot in the library for the mold to actually grow. ALEX MCGEE: I remember hearing the upper floors in Crosland were in the 90s temperature wise. So that's pretty hot for indoors. CHARLIE BENNETT: And the one thing that is both funny and depressing is that RATS night, as we said, the freshman greeting event was postponed to a day that would eventually be a snow day. And so then it was postponed again to this year. So we missed out on RATS night. FRED RASCOE: I'll say that, although we came through this situation mostly with minimal long lasting impact, the reverberations are still there because we cannot get into the ground floor entrance of our library because the-- two of the crucial pipes that they were working on were right outside. They dug up the whole thing, replaced the pipes. For a long time, there were pipes above ground that were installed temporarily that were actually moving this chilled water to the library. And so there were these giant, I think, foot diameter pipes blocking the ground floor entrance to the library. Those are gone. And now-- ALEX MCGEE: It's looking close. FRED RASCOE: The ground floor entrance looks almost ready to open. Almost. ALEX MCGEE: I know I sent some angry emails last summer about that entrance being closed. So I could go tell us when that started, actually. It predated the-- CHARLIE BENNETT: Unless there's some construction that inconveniences you. This is Lost in the Stacks, and today's show was more bad luck in trouble. Let's finish off with some music. MARLEE GIVENS: File this set under HV551.P49. [MUSIC PLAYING] [VIDEO PLAYBACK] - Musty book? Quick tips. Put dryer sheets between several pages and seal it in a plastic bag for a few days. Nice. [END PLAYBACK] [SAVOY BROWN, "DOING FINE"] That was Doing Fine by Savoy Brown, and before that Recover by Second Still. Songs about bouncing back and handling whatever fate throws at you. [MUSIC PLAYING] CHARLIE BENNETT: Today's episode is called more bad luck and trouble. We've been talking about the chilled water emergency at Georgia Tech last year. So let's get off campus and end the show with shout outs to other infrastructure bad luck and trouble. For instance, just this week I had a partial power outage in my house in which about one third of my circuits still had power while the rest of the house and all of our other neighbors had no power. Very spooky. My youngest now believes in ghosts. Fred, how about you? FRED RASCOE: OK, I'm going to make this very quick. In April, we identified a leak coming into our kitchen ceiling as coming-- we identified the source of it, I should say, as coming from the bathtub drain line upstairs. Fast forward to today, our oven and our dishwasher is in our dining area, our cabinets are removed, my kitchen sink is in the carport, and we are currently waiting for the asbestos remediation team to come and remove the floor tiles. ALEX MCGEE: Oh, so you're in it right now. FRED RASCOE: That's our life right now. MARLEE GIVENS: I'm going to say Fred wins. ALEX MCGEE: Yeah, I can't top that. MARLEE GIVENS: I mean, so I'm on the board of our homeowners association or condo association. And so the most common vexation that we have to deal with is leaks. And I'll just say, long story short, the biggest problem is that everyone wants the board to fix it for them. How about you, Cody? CODY: You guys remember when the I-85 bridge caught on fire and collapsed? Best thing that ever happened to me. I never drove to work in Alpharetta again after that day. I started taking Marta because I just refused to have to deal with that. And when the Marta train would go over that section of the interstate, everyone would just lean over into the window and look at the traffic and all go, ooh. So it was a nice collective moment on the Marta train. Alex, what did you have? ALEX MCGEE: So much like Charlie, I had power issues in my fairly new construction house. CHARLIE BENNETT: No one is immune. ALEX MCGEE: Yeah, we had power surges that took out our TV. And then, within the next six months, took out the control panel of our range, which the downside of having a digital screen, I guess, on your appliances is that thing can go really easy. So that was also an expensive fix. CHARLIE BENNETT: It's like Fred said, we're very close to just living in caves once again. OK, let's roll the credits. But it is Friday the 13th, so keep your head on a swivel. (SINGING) Look out. ALEX MCGEE: Lost in the Stacks is a collaboration between WREK Atlanta and the Georgia Tech Library. Written and produced by Alex McGee, Charlie Bennett, Fred Rascoe, and Marlee Givens. MARLEE GIVENS: Legal counsel and a box of replacement HEPA filters were provided by the Burrus Intellectual Property Law Group in Atlanta, Georgia. CHARLIE BENNETT: We need more of those all the time. Special thanks to everybody who helped in any way when the chilled water went out. And thanks, as always, to each and every one of you for listening. MARLEE GIVENS: Our web page is library.gatech.edu/lostinthestacks, where you'll find our most recent episode, a link to our podcast feed, and a web form if you want to get in touch with us. CHARLIE BENNETT: On next week's show, it's a material umph show. We're going to talk about the notebook age and thinking on paper. FRED RASCOE: All right, it's time for our last song today. And speaking of bad luck, trouble, and summer, we also learned this week that Brian Wilson passed away. So Sly Stone earlier this week. ALEX MCGEE: Both 82. FRED RASCOE: Both 82 years old. Man, talk about bad luck. So in celebration of Brian Wilson's life and the search for endless summer, hopefully with working air conditioning, let's close with a Beach Boys track. This is Kokomo. But no, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. This is Don't Worry Baby, possibly from one of the best 45 singles ever released with I Get Around on the other side. Anyway, whatever bad luck and trouble comes your way, don't worry, everything will work out all right. Right? Yeah, sure. CHARLIE BENNETT: Yeah, I mean, everything will be fine eventually. FRED RASCOE: All right. Or we'll just go and live in a cave. Have a great weekend, everyone. [MUSIC PLAYING]