Welcomes you I say get ready for the real world event on transformative leadership presented by Dr G. Wayne cut my name is Inigo hostie and I'm a second year economics and international affairs major as well as a member of the US A Get ready for the rare real world Committee we're very excited to have the opportunity to have Dr Clark here today to speak before we begin let me tell you a little bit about Dr Guy Dr Scott embodies Tex model of progress and service he has used his leadership abilities to improve and innovate here at our beloved Georgia Tech as was using his tenure as a secretary of the Smithsonian to enact incredible change and global progress in research and scientific discovery please help me in welcoming Dr. OK Thank you Andy for the introduction and thanks to this new gholam Association for giving me this opportunity to share some close with you it's nice to be back on campus. I was gone for a while at the Smithsonian It was a retired US president here and I plan to have a very nice life. I got asked to be secretary of the Smithsonian and it was a wonderful amazing experience I'll talk a little bit about that institution I'm not going to talk about the strategic planning we did for Georgia Tech that's really but Peterson job these days and he's delivered by one job but I will talk about the Smithsonian because it's a big complex institution and I think you'll learn a good bit about fifty planning political science so there's a sense great I mention to some of the folks up here the tough part about coming back here is getting your parking pass. In and so when I first came I didn't have anything and so Ellen was going to be my assistant and I'm in the Mason building and so I parked on that this or floor at the physics building and it used to be there was a person there when I was here so you know walked up to that little shack and a group of them went in there as machine. And turned up missing a little bit complicated at least for me I didn't know you had to know your parking number before you machine right so first last in the long line I got there in a relative didn't know my number and so I had to get out of the line and go back and talk to her again and then I got up to a machine and I couldn't quite operate over the young man's dead and I was as he says I didn't used to be present at this place so what are you doing here if so I said well yeah I did that but appreciate your help so he helped me get my parking started so fortunately now I have a parking pass so Fillery feel like I belong has been nice so what we want to talk a little bit about is leadership and I know that's what you're into and I was asked to speak about a subject called transformative leadership. And it's a term I don't use very much and I'll explain why that's true let's go to the first line of the definition of transformative is you know there are lots of definitions you can get out of books and so forth but the Cambridge Dictionary says causing a major change in something meaning an institution or someone especially in a way that makes them better that's a nice idea right that sounds simple enough but if you're doing a job or for an institution doing a job and they think they're doing it just fine they rather like to have somebody come along and say I'm going to make you better you know you're thinking I'm as good as I can get and so that sounds simple but it's not simple it's sometimes people would take them a little bit of an insult Let's let So if we think about it in terms of a business and let's just think for a moment nonprofits also are businesses because that Georgia Tech they have to make money through the restaurants and parking in a list that a shift in the business culture of an organization resulting from a change in the underlying strategy and processes that the organization is use in the past again that sounds lice but as I have found when I interviewed for two jobs in my life big wins if you will of one for Georgia Tech and one for the Smithsonian. It is that and I told them in both cases that I I think you need to make some changes inside transformation messaging and other scribe a few of the changes I said if you don't want to make these changes I shouldn't be hard. And there are lots of people in the search committee you know the whole raft of folks and everybody shook her head and said fine let's go ahead I thought well this is cool this is going to be easy what I didn't realize was everybody who shook their head everybody else in the room would change and they would not. So everybody thinks they're doing a really good job or buy things are working as hard as they could possibly work and when somebody comes along and says let's change it's hard it's hard for institutions to change the scope of the next part of this so look at synonyms for this word trends forty per second OK synonyms tell you a lot life changing this is not just a little change a lot of change born again my goodness this is you don't know about you know our conversion right Catherine it my god it sound awful so transformative is a big word and personally I don't use it I think it scares people I think transformative of the world like great. Is that you can't use great no right you can't say I'm going to do a great job well that's not your judgment to make you know five years from now if you're working in a job somebody might say you did a great job it's somebody else's Perth for view to say you you did a great job same thing with transformation you can't say I'm a transformative change agent because you're not done anything yet five years down the road if you didn't transform it somebody would do you the courtesy of same Wow you trained for this one to help translate so transform and transformative leadership is a big word and you really need to be careful about when you use it and you shouldn't use it until you've earned it that's my personal opinion OK next month so let's talk about leadership and the interesting a thing about leadership. The chief justice and he was my boss and so I had to think about that right so everybody I'm a follower in a sense going up all the instructions of the board led other people to try to get or when you finally Tama deigns of leadership style differ very important concepts but the core good leaders make the people who are leading accomplish more than they otherwise would most effective leaders do not do this through fear or intimidation or title but rather about building consensus around a common goal now that's an interesting definition I suspect one of our presidential candidates this year doesn't use that deafness you know the you're fired guy. He doesn't look at it that way but most leaders today are more consensual leaders and the reason I say that is well I think what's happened over the last twenty years is the business will is sort of moved into towards the nonprofit world nonprofits have worked that way because you don't have the power sources to use to do things on the other hand in the nonprofit or my world we've moved more towards the business world and the reason is accountability you have to know what you're doing with your finances you have to keep your building projects on schedule you have to pay people on time all these things are business propositions and so if you're in the nonprofit world you have to operate like a business person if you're a business person you may operate a little bit more like a nonprofit or more consensual approach toward pollution so the two worlds I think it moved pretty close together over time next month. Now if you were to Google the word leadership book you be careful because your lights may dim in your apartment building because there are something like eighty four thousand books on leadership everybody who theft thought about leadership in one way or another sniffed it like glue whatever rights of. Book about leadership everybody who's done a little something in a way leadership writes a book about. There are many many books out there I haven't come close to looking at all the books on only ten two but I have two that are my personal favorites and one of them is ultimately are ship wings for execution Stratus or your situation the rest are not bored with fortune in my life when I went to the Smithsonian they had a board called the National Board Georgia Tech as of Georgia Tech Advisory Board Burson war and Russ Palmer was on the board now Russia's been a businessman he ran Wharton's business school he took Wharton Business School and really brought it up from where it was and do a great business go and he's somebody who's been there and done it and he knows the model leaders so he's writing from his only experience and that of others and he really gets it about what leadership me because what russet there's no single style of leadership that works you may remember that was a quote earlier but there are basic principles that are the same that work for everybody. Yet there are different now the book these are in the book it is about the greatest mistake a leader can make. And in essence what he's saying is that you have to understand the context of the institution you're. Upside down right side up every which way to apply these principles and get them right and so Rush is one of these sort of down to earth people you can read a book and it makes sense and so if you're thinking about leadership it's a book it's worth getting Next month the other guy Jim Collins good to great in his other books he's written particularly He wrote a good to great monograph about non-profits and it's a best monograph ever written about managing nonprofits and these are sort of some of the principles out of his approach to the motley points out that for example you don't have. Retha you don't have an economic engine like you do in the for profit world now Georgia Tech has businesses the Smithsonian has businesses but they're nonprofit by lark and so the Smithsonian for example has a channel that has stores that have restaurants you know it sells books so it's a business so we have a business arm of the Smithsonian called Smithsonian enterprise but isn't a nonprofit you plow the money back into the business plan well Jim basically said defining great calibrating success so if you're in the nonprofit world how do you come up with metrics in a pretty easy if your profit is your primary motive or the stock price is your mother but if you don't have stock price and you don't have profits What is your metric and so it's harder to find your metrics when you're in the nonprofit world but the process of thinking about it with lots of people is a great way to get people together to think about how we're going to measure ourselves and today for example in the Smithsonian we have a basic website that will tell you where everything is every day we went that for in defining for metrics very very important. Getting right people on the bus is a famous phrase that he uses and that's critically important whether you're talk about profit or nonprofit or book but then building momentum building a brand and so he has a big proponent of thinking about how you differentiate yourself whether your are a business making you know one of these things. And how do you differentiate yourself i Phone and jobs difference in them so by design Samsung has a Samsung differentiate themselves same product but they have to differentiate them same thing for a nonprofit. If you're a museum how are you different than the next person what is it you're providing That's different than the other person so everything is about. Differentiation if you're a Georgia Tech How was it you're different than MIT or Cal Tech or Carnegie Mellon and your different and you have to think about those things and what's the differentiation factor between yourselves so those are important I thought of these I think Jim Collins and I think Ross Palmer are great people now what I'm going to do is give you a little introduction here to the cloth for some of strategic planning and then we're going to apply it to the Smithsonian which is a very complex institution that clip. I think preplanning isn't as important as the plan the process of planning especially for a nonprofit can be as important as the plan itself. Out when I went to when I came to Georgia Tech and when I went to the Smithsonian there had been a period of disarray. And I felt the best way to get people's attention and get it off of the fact there had been disarray was a think about the future and if you're doing a strategic plan the right way you get people together that think about the future and that gets people's minds off the past get them thinking about the future. And the reason that's important is that when you are have an institution that is in trouble I call it it's an introspective institution and you go sit down with anybody almost at the institution and they'll say Boy things of terrible job things are just going to hell in a hand-basket here just on how they could get any worse but if you're thinking xterm really you say look at the future we have Madhur This is amazing you know the digital future of the Smithsonian for example amazing it's so thinking about it extremely instead of interrupting thinking about your customers instead of yourself it is a remarkable change in the way you get to things so so to get started rumor trust Palmers context review the history of the institution backwards and forwards and so if you're the leader and you go to a Georgia Tech or you go to a biz. Inus you should know more about the history of that business than anybody who's interviewed. And you do that by studying so that's when people take interview very lightly wrong thing to do you will know what you're getting into one of the culture the biggest problems are going to have in making change in an institution will be traditions or what people perceive office tradition right to perceive of as tradition you have to know what those are and how are you going to deal with those kind of. I love to review the strategic plan I read all the ones at the Smithsonian and I thought there were two good ones one was done in one thousand nine hundred seven it was a very forward looking strategic plan done with the fairly large number of people and typically that's not true at the Smithsonian and the only problem was it talked about this was on him being in all fifty states instead of one place that means money isn't the right. Little problem cropped up in one thousand nine hundred twenty eight. The Depression happened and the strategic plan was useless because it never consider the possibility you could have a depression great plan but. OK evaluate the appetite for change you need to talk a lot of people or people realize I said are huge really interested in changing or just been talking about it or you think about everybody else is going to change enough to go do that and you've got of you in your own mind this is before you have to do the plan you've got to think about what the rationale is because people are going to say well why do we need a plan we have one. You know and you have to be able explain why in the case of a place like Smithsonian there are thirty advisory board and he said every museum has an above board I had to go the thirty boards and explain why I thought pretty good planning was a good idea and why we would do it differently than you've ever done it before at the Institute. Urgency urgency is always critical. Why now why do it now as opposed let's wait a few years you know what do you know the place right kind of thing and so urgency is very important this is all pre-planning. You cannot define ahead of time what the costs are going to be involved with implementing a new strategic plan because you don't know what the plan is really but you have to think through because somebody will get say Well we're we're we don't have any money and when you don't tell no bunch of new stuff for and so you have to figure out what your answer is where were you thinking about get the money it may be is not new money it may be redirected from programs you get rid of right there are ways to get this skin the cat was assessed your allies and opponents and this side of the body language you talk to a lot of people and you see remember everybody's face. Were they bored stiff just when you were talking were they body language was one of these or was it well you know that's interesting that's an ally you're going to need to know who's going to oppose you and who's going to be for you and you don't they're all your employees not like you're saying you're bad you're good what you need to know who's going to help you you can need all the large you can get anticipated implementation challenges you need to think chess moves ahead don't think of where you are that and discuss the basics you've got to really talk to a lot of people communication for important next month so now we get into the planning process itself so now we can do it we've got people convinced I should do it we probably created an executive planning committee out of your allies. People who are those asked about this and people you believe can help you people have a respected at the institution of the business and their help and you may bring in some extra people. But you need to have a hand in your mind already the idea of a barrier and mission statements those are hard to get and use going well for. Lot of time on them if you're not careful but you need to think about what those will be unique you can write them yourself let somebody else rewrite them you don't need to put them out there but you need to have something in her head so this is what I think or by use our emotions they will only. Get your communications going keep You've got it you've now you've talked to everybody you've got to keep talking to you've got to go back when you're fifteen percent finished and said everybody this is where we're at we're fifteen percent finished keep talking keep talking people it's a key leaders and gauge a first rate facilitator who who can help you you can't do it all you have to have someone who has Whiting tain driven out of somebody's executive Grant planning team and you need a keeper who's going to facilitate dozens and dozens of meetings and that person needs to be very good at it that is a great listeners and they can react well and help people keep moving necklace. Is contained in the planning process I like to get some outsiders these may people may be members of your boards you don't have too many of them but you want to have somebody who's a play from several boards who will go back to their boards and say well this this guy or scales Gumperz good idea you know as opposed to them sitting back and taking potshots at you and so you get you know you're creating insiders who are going to help you if you do that you scenario based plan and that's that's a nine hundred twenty seven lesson is that scenario based planning says that things can stay as they are and how does that affect or planning things can really go down you can have terrible economic news can you still execute your plan even if they go down and the answer is yes. Things may go up and you can be a victim of your success and so are you prepared for the opportunities that may come if you have some extra money you know you. Be prepared for those of forgot to get ready for this and you don't like Avenger. Developed but to the life I like to say for institutions like educational institutions like Georgia Tech or institutions and so on him the life of the institutions of five hundred years you hope Georgia Tech around here five hundred years from now Oxford has been around a lot longer than that Cambridge so why can't Georgia Tech be around a bunch of interviews and so you what you don't want to do is aside by a hundred years from now people sitting around saying God those people in two thousand and fifteen stuck it up you know they wrote a terrible plan what you do is you want them to say five hundred years ago with those folks really set this place on fire you know they they pushed us into a place we never thought we would be you're not planning for five years we can't predict but you can think about it you may say my plan will last five years but you're thinking about five hundred years I don't think about just five years you chore change yourself a goal so you need durable goals because you're two years now three years out you're going to cite We got a lot done right and then you want some things that are really stretch goals that are that you may or may not get. And then create a writing team who are forthright editor at the end of the day you're going to have to have somebody who thinks like a great writer and will write this thing inspirational and you're going to be too far into it all the people at work with you will be too far into it to do that and then establish a roll up process next like. Now implementation planning is over pre-planned over planning over restructure your administrative organization in case of the Smithsonian when I looked at our plan and I looked at the administrative structural sheet that it will match and we had to redo the structure of the Smithsonian which has been around for one hundred sixty years. And the odd thing it has been sown is because it's in part a creature Congo. Yes we had to go to Congress believe it or not to get them approved it. Those guys can approve anything but you're also going to probably want to refresh your branding to remember Jim Collins a branding is everything right well if you're going to change an institution in your McComb something different you want everybody to know about it and they're not sitting around waiting for you know ten years to say well gee you did something good you want to replace in two years OK I get it and you really change the way you talk about yourself so when I came to Georgia Tech I'll just give you a quick example there were people who always were telling me Georgia Tech is a North Avenue trade school. And I said I'll never use that phrase I just said it but I'll never use that phrase myself I know it's a term of endearment but it was really about Georgia Tech when it was founded in one thousand nine hundred five to build things to pay for the school operational capacity it couldn't. And MIT would never talk about itself as a trade school. The grandee cones in France would not talk about themselves as trade schools you have to talk about yourself in an institution of substance if you don't do it nobody else is going to do it so that's just an example and it was mis own and we'll see in a moment there have a similar three zero seven never use. Think about new revenues redirections and cost reductions restructure your budget your budget processes probably don't work anymore because you're restructuring things towards different goals and you're going to reward people differently your metrics have to be different everything is very different and your communication strategy will have to be different that. Follow what activities you want some things that still really show off you know in two or three years what something you can really brag about. With all these folks and a new activities have to be in terms of these aspirational goals that Georgia Tech I'm not talking about boards like Perceval just like we came up with the. Tagline we will not fire on the technological research university of the twenty first century not the trade school we go to the fine the whole thing. When we climb that mountain everybody's going to say I wish we would climb that mountain which led long known OK So now whenever anybody does anything at Georgia Tech like the common building you say does that really the fun of that logic research university first century or is that just business as usual is business as usual don't do it. I want to have aspirational goals and you have to live up those aspirational metrics metrics metrics very important and make those metrics available to both internal audiences everybody should know what not just a bunch of department heads this there should be a website so everybody can see how they're doing and then you can show yourself off to your external folks and then finally communicate communicate communicate and so you cannot communicating or the plan will die it will if you don't use the words nobody else will use words you'll be gone so those are sort of my ideas about planes that fly so now what we're going to do is we're going to apply this idea to a great institution a Smithsonian Institution and when I went there they would look good let me refer to themselves the largest museum research complex moral is still say that that irritates me when they do that but when I got there it is the thing I found out later of do as I ask and ask questions and so I said Why do you say that. How do you are you sure that's true and I could say the other to say yeah OK I get it to Sony has one thousand museum left big nobody else of my hunting them but we the largest research institution what about Harvard and MIT and Georgia Tech they're pretty large you know and guess what the research budget of Georgia Tech is seven times that of the Smithsonian. It's not the largest research company so it's an exaggeration and they've gotten better than it was but though they also want to do so well we've always done that and you get a lot of those right when what it is it is a big place and most of us think about it this way how many of you been business on. How many have been to all nineteen museums and galleries. Yes that's really hard to. It's a big place and that's just the start I'll talk about it a little bit more but that's a mall and you have these great museums on the Mall and mouth this is in that little red building over to the left there and called the castle and that's where it all started at the beginning in one thousand fifty five there was only one building on the Mall and that was the castle the first illegal it was read because the chance the secretary or the first secretary wanted to make a statement this was not a federal project it was built with private money and he wanted the site if you wanted to be seen as a federal particle be one of these marble building and he wanted to make a statement that it would be different it was a castle because it wanted to look like a medieval university because he thought in the beginning it would be more like a university than it would be like a museum and shifting the next one. So that's just the beginning of the Smithsonian However that's just the start of it that's the castle building my office was over here on what they call the east side we're on this side that entrance here that's the office building side of this mess on and they're going to renovate this building and become a lot more public building than it is in the today that plant and of course they have these wonderful museums and one of the biggest ones of the Natural History Museum and I'm sure many of you have been to them after a history museum or a comparable museum like at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City these are amazing institutions this particular one has about three hundred Ph D. research scientists that work. In the building or out in Maryland of a collection center all over the world doing research have a largest natural history collections in the world one hundred twenty seven or twenty eight million in a gamma specimens OK and those specimens consist of insects have sixty six thousand bumblebees when they then have six hundred fifty thousand birds six hundred ten thousand mammals and so it goes lots and lots of thing that make up naturalistic likes and marvelous research too for the world and I've been collecting them over the years beautiful exhibitions beautiful exhibition place this is a one point two million square foot building built in one thousand and six only one third of it is available to the public. And so you don't get to see all those collections and things are are behind the wall as secretary I got to go see them and if you ever get a chance but only do it about seven to eight million people visit this museum a year and I've been being engineer and being a past. I said well is that bigger enough and nobody knows and so I had to go do my homework and so there was this thing where they record numbers of visitors to museum. And so the Louve is usually done for gets about eight to nine million the years so yeah eight millions a big number of air and space at the Smithsonian has actually to museums gets about ten. Big So yes eight million that it's open every day of the year but Christmas and that's a lot of traffic going through this building it takes a beating from the public going through the building and enjoying this marvelous educational experience. So a little bit about the Smithsonian It was founded making forty six by James Smithson's donation of his entire wealth to our country James Madison's an Englishman he wrote his will in eight hundred twenty six. Been in the house where he wrote his will it's a historic house near Hyde Park in London he was a chemist he loved the idea of Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson being very interested in science and space them that he knew who he could see them coming and going in England he had other reasons for wanting to give us money like he did. He died nine hundred twenty nine it took a while for the money to work its way through the court systems and finally to get over to here took a long time for coffee you know I'm a woman. He said in his will for the increasing division of knowledge located in the nation's capital and name of every. You know pretty interesting idea. But he his mistake was he left his money the Congress. I don't know how many of you and your last will and testament would say I I think Congress is so responsible in the way they manage money that I will leave them everything I've earned all my life well he did know how Congress worked he's an Englishman never came of those countries. It's worked out because there were some thoughtful people in Congress who said let's use this in the best way possible. There were people who argued they should not name it after Mrs miss him because he was an Englishman We just finished fighting two wars against those people. But they got over it and thank goodness they did great at the Titian big place twelve million square feet how big is that the same size as Georgia Tech square footage about twelve million square feet more building foot and more land next line. Mentioned in the gallery of course the National Zoo also runs in there which is an amazing place that works an endangered species and I was just in China is in the Panda preserve and we are one of the the National Zoo in Atlanta one of the fuses that help Amazones of China research centers these are things that you probably would never visit that work at the Smithsonian and some of those are now. Even in this country club. Mention the collections a huge set of collections and big sets in every category almost four hundred thousand works of art and the lot get painted on your wall too easy right so they have to be monstrous storage facilities and everything the Smithsonian takes into it collections have to be maintained forever. The client. Six thousand staff that's been down as I'll show you what it used to be lots of volunteers and these are not just people who show up and say I want to help their train and they write a contract and they live up to a contract so if you want to do a bit docent in the Asian art really I mean you have to study for a year. We put a lot of money into the training and we expect you to show up Monday Tuesday Wednesday or whatever it is you're going to do in a volunteer but saves a Smithsonian in America people a lot of money next live lots of visitors scientists to come and in turn about fifteen hundred in terms of your some from Georgia Tech not enough lot of post office and visiting fellow next month as you say located in eight states and also has activities in Chile Panama it's actually expect activism about one hundred forty countries that plan. Are active in more than one hundred countries around. The Globe. That's a Smithsonian. It puts on exhibitions in every museum all yours about one hundred new exhibitions a year at the High Museum I'm not sure they probably do four or five The Smithsonian has all these museums and I tell people when was the last time it was my son in law and somebody said well I saw it five years ago I said you know what you just missed five hundred exhibition. You know it's just a active place really active plug. That flood. All those research centers I'm not going to go through all of the moments and for. Of these big research centers on the far left is just a pick by the far right is Panama Canal go keep in mind that island blow the Smithsonian and Panama Canal the far left is a radio telescope array on top of Mama chaos in Hawaii its own and has the world's largest of the physical obligatory It runs on lights for NASA people don't realize that and on the four white it's Front Royal where the zoo does its amazing work on preserving animal species and bird species and around the world next month I'll tell you a little bit about each one of them the Smithsonian of our men research enters about three thousand acres sixteen miles in the Chesapeake by the shoreline working on interaction of ocean and land and also is designated by the federal government as the invasive marine species suffer invasive marine species or a serious problem in our country they're all over the Great Lakes. Some Cisco buy is probably the most invaded Bay in the wall because ships came in there and dumped out their ballast and their microbes in the ballast and grows and other thing and these are huge issues that are trying to grow shellfish for a living and invasive species kills your your ability to do that is a big deal and so they monitor invasive species all over the world that thought. The truck or search institution came from the building of the Panama Canal which was completed in one thousand and ten and the United States which was enough to say we need to know something about the species here because we're going to connect two oceans that haven't been connected in probably five million years something might happen. And that was a big deal so the Smithsonian start of this work at that time on tropical forest and content is that today all over the world and it's a most prestigious tropical force that I mention as the physical driver authority one sixth of the Smithsonian. Employees are in astrophysics and astronomy and you don't see them because their headquarters is in Cambridge Massachusetts but they operate over towards many parts of the world this is on top of Mount Hopkins in Arizona we do joint with the University of Arizona. Amazing work that they do and as I mentioned they actually run satellites for NASA So it's a money making business for them and so on but you probably don't see much of it like that. In the last one is a Conservation Biology Institute which has an educational component they all do now something on systems on and this has a degree program that anyone of you can actually get involved with it's administered by the Smithsonian the George Mason University we have dormitories and resident told out there students can go out and work with our scientists and work with the great incredible peach creatures that are bred there and actually study around the world and get to the richer home institution which you can pick up credits because they're very important part I am very fortunate there on the right hand side being I'm holding something called so much from Tiger and Elin period when you're breeding in those species you want people you want the animals to get slightly acclimated the people who are there to handle them if they're not going back in a while and that's the period I got invited to take part and I was glad to hear only five hundred so much from tigers in the world five hundred and about two hundred fifty of those exist and. Only two hundred fifty left in the world and is a beautiful beautiful creature we'd hate to lose it I hate to see it go extinct that clan. This is only and does works work all over the world often times because it's a trusted institution trust is very important to action it can bring parties together that would never come together well there's a big issue for example on climate change and what it's doing to our forces to grow in the world as was own in Korea the protocol to make measurements to be. That and provides the basis to do that but. Governments and universities and anybody who owns land around the world has joined in to do it exactly the same way the Smithsonian does that they send their data the Smithsonian the Smithsonian share of all that data back so everybody can see what's happening all of them you know some force are going faster because of increased carbon Some are going slower and being influence and changing as a matter of that next month. I mention the collections I won't go through those in addition to the objects you have a tremendous amount of archival material you have for example the world's greatest collection of folk music in folk ways we have a huge library largely about natural history I mentioned this business about forever so if you have the Star-Spangled Banner which was saved you know and it was when we defeated the British Camry. You would hope that five hundred years from now we'll still have it it almost disappeared because it wasn't suppose own and hand was in private hands girl Armistead a defender of the forgot it used to hang it out of fourth of July and it was deteriorating and they gave it to the Smithsonian. So if you see it is very ragged it's very moving and never hesitate to go see the story and. It's very moving experience. But those Missoni job is to keep this thing going for five hundred years so five hundred years from now people will still live that history and understand what we sacrifice that way for next month. Mention a collection natural history collections you name it they've got it it doesn't matter what you might have in mind so one of the things I had they asked Got any yellow jackets OIA Levon thousand you'll know some of them from Atlanta. So I went to see those collections and very proffer most of them. Yellowjackets and the doctor from Atlanta Georgia next one. Of the Smithsonian have many ways of outreach in addition to digital today but certainly the channel is a highly prized commodity is one of the preeminent cable channel relatively new channels only about seven or your phone but its value is enormous to die because of its desirability that can actually then we talk a little bit about where it was that I came in I already said I wanted to look at the historical aspects of it so the the everybody told me that there were short of staff and at took a while to realize they were the federal government has been consistently defunding institutions like the Smithsonian and it's done it must make you why sometimes they give you a one percent increase your budget but that inflation's three or four percent so when people retire there will get replaced because people don't have the budget to put though when I came it was clear to me this was all in the last six hundred people in the last decade number were six thousand appointees be sixty six on six that. That's a serious problem because if you're trying to keep those collections going you're going to burst specialist people who do that. And I would go to a collection that was a very prominent collection is a dark cloth that used to be five of us here and there are only two now. And my problem was there was no way I could give them any hope. That we would ever add three. One But think about the federal budget the Congress can't even pass the federal budget I had a perfect record seven years and never got a budget ever I had the whole operation shut down by people who thought it was a good idea to shut the federal government down over some significant issues dumb it cost an enormous amount of money to shut the federal government and restart it and they had the gall. We can shut it down with those federal workers don't work on the weekend this only in the open every day of the year and we lost millions of dollars in revenues and we turned away one million visitors who that me was the only time they ever came to this but on and we turned away because some idiot could not come to reconcile their problems in Congress as the dumbest thing you could possibly do. So never had a budget on time so how do you plan right you don't even know what your budget is going to be and sometimes you get your budget six months late in the taste spend it real quick because you've only got six months left to spend and it's really not the way to do business Congress need to get ready anyway six hundred people down that was a problem and that's true across the federal people think the federal government's gotten better as not it's gotten smaller the only agency that is bigger today than it was ten years ago is homeland security because it was created and it continues to grow folks every other federal agency is getting smaller Parks Service National Science Foundation the Smithsonian it's all getting smaller because the budgets are going down so just keep in mind when you hear a lot of the stuff that's out there. OK Well I was also told when I came to your good fund raiser. We're going to expect you to raise money as Missoni as a trust and so it does both private and public and I said well yeah we can do that and have you ever run up campaign before no we hope you will run go ahead but by the way you can't use federal money to do it glad you got it from where you get the money how do you are fifty development. No one. And that's all I said well if we're going to do a campaign you gotta have a target you know and the target for the for someone in would probably be at least a billion maybe in the health dollars and likes Georgia Tech's and probably sick. Seven years to do it you can do the math you know seven and a billion and have him know what it but two hundred twenty million here so what we've been doing so here's the record in fund raising these are all gifts under ten million dollars and you can see it bouncing around got up to around one hundred million so the raising about one hundred million a year and then you add into the next part of it is people who are given bigger money and as you can imagine that's an up and down Proposition some years somebody give you fifty million and next year you don't get that right then in two thousand and two a guy supposedly made a commitment of one hundred million dollars or another never quite be able it. But that was the only time there were one over two hundred. And the next part of this graph is how much I thought we would have to raise on a year in year out basis it was two hundred twenty million though. Never done it in the history of the institution and we had to do it next month so we had to develop a strategic plan those are the circumstances old institution a lot of built in habits thirty boards all with different. Loss of staffs and the need for private money to do anything so how could you have any new ideas well we thought we could have some we have a great facilitator gun and Peter for two and then it's in our own planning we did more than most of the things that we talked about though so you got to explain this on I used to tell people here that you you asked me to come up here and help you with this and says I said OK they said What is this messiah as well. Really we got air and space and you've got natural history we're going to post a movie don't forget it's very nice moment I'm posting you got an American Indian movie we're building an African-American History and Culture and us all here we have a zoo. And someone says Will what do you have a zoo now that well we have the world's largest asked a physical director right now the tropical research that do you make any sense of this own part of this. Or here was how do you tell the story of this institution which is evolved over one hundred sixty years that's why. We created the group we decided to involve as many people as one of the Be involved and fifteen hundred people physically came to meetings they wanted to get there or in the water. And they were good about it and so we were able to convince the Smithsonian to these four so called Grand Challenges and you see them up there the American experience for all cultures sustaining Mount Everest planet and unlocking the mysteries of the universe and then we added these new things broadening access it's Missoni and should be for everybody not for an elitist bunch of people who want to go to me as I am are grew up in the country of Georgia my folks paid for the Smithsonian and never went there that's assuming there are people who live in urban areas kids who never go to a museum and never get to this business that's a shame so we're going to reach new audiences. Collaboration across disciplines we've got all these different groups what can they do together they can't do separately mission Enabling Act We will be like Jim Collins said discipline discipline discipline focus every dime we spend we will try to spend wisely we will tell you how we spend it we will be disciplined in our work and finally will tackle the big issues of the day not just a little thing but biggish next month. So the American experience the urgency you know in twenty years of being no majority in this country rapidly approaching California is already there Georgia is rapidly approaching it as well people get surprised about that big Hispanic population here in Georgia and growing. What's going to hold this country together. When there is nothing that seemingly holds us together. Except hopefully a common bond and loyalty to country and a reason to believe in the country that the country can change. For us American Indian American history the National Portrait Gallery the Air and Space Museum lever all things will contribute to that the. World cultures we have the Asian Art Museum for a factor we have the African National Museum of African Art we have performing arts groups at the Smithsonian in the American Art Museum there are a lot of interest in other cultures and so we have an interest in world culture as it is not only is about the world not about just denies the next life. And understanding and sustaining about a verse plan and so we have all these groups the Tropical Research Institution the zoo the natural her Future History Museum this environmental research So what can they do together to find how we can protect our little planet. A planet where twenty five percent of the mammal species are threatened over thirty percent of the birds may go extinct what can we do to help prevent that likely. And then of course unlocking the mist of the universe we still know very little about the place where we live and the as a physical missions and so on and it's very important to help us understand we have this planet exists in one exists. So next thing was to brand ourselves away hard we'll fall in South in New York City they did a fantastic job a bit the year interviewing people the Smithsonian New itself as the nation's attic. Of work the North Avenue trade school. I mean what's good about an attic nothing you know it's dusty nothing ever moves in their own people go there you know people don't go there and I said you know that's not the Smithsonian for godsake this is an amazing place and after a lot of work they came up with a stag line seriously amazing simple but works. So every time somebody brought me something that is on in that that was new US it is that seriously amazing or just. Something you would. Remember. Is that really define in a technological research university twenty percent true or not. It should get mazing Hemant stuff is not seriously amazing is it. And that seriously amazing when the discovery we work hard to get the discovery into the Smithsonian came in on the back of a seven point seven This is a craft that had flown one hundred and forty eight million miles in space thirty eight missions every time it was a disaster this was the the shuttle that went back up to Georgia Tech men were commanders of this ship many Georgia Tech alumni served on the ship every body has a connection this place and when it flew around Washington everybody said the same thing. That reminds me of when our nation was really great. What's that say about us today in other words we got together as a country to do something remarkable. And guess what we spent some federal money on it. Right we were willing to do it we can do it again and we are still doing it only in a smaller scale this is a great reminder and it's a beat up old thing I hope you go see it it looks like hell. It DID YOU KNOW IT one hundred forty eight million miles you know it looks pretty beat up but that's that's what kept it going they they passed it together and kept that thing in space very moving I stood on that I was right below it and landed right in front of me. And I think I thought. I mentioned the force Geo thing that we were doing. With different countries let's think about saying it in a different Y. as opposed to just saying we have forty three sides in the lead stuff you know well we see the forest and the tree of the Smithsonian worried about the trees but if worried about the forest is worried about humanity so forest you know is not about a bunch of trades it's about us right that's what you have to say that life and we started thinking in our new plan which encouraged us to think rather extravagantly we said when it's funny that we're spending our time measuring something that represents thirty percent of the planet Earth what about the other seventy percent and so we created Marines you know. This is different because you have to you know make sense of the Missoni and begin to know mix today you have to have a genome which profile for every place you go when what you change in time right so where do we get the money that is this well guess what it is the Georgia Tech alumnus and Michael Tenenbaum who is a scuba diver. He loves the oceans he's very concerned about the loss of diversity in the ocean and he said Wayne and I if they have tobe a patient when I left us that I'm not going to go after any tech along for years but after that statue of limitations run out and so Michael came to me and he said I want to help the Smithsonian the message that Michael you might be instance and he gave us ten million bucks and World for now we have these sites many other people that the thing is sort of you know like Tom Sawyer get somebody else to do your work for you so now scripts everybody wants to be an illness guy that everybody is willing to pay be in the game but it will be a tremendous resource for the future to understand our ocean next line. All right and we changed our websites to make them interesting you know like asking people kind of crazy questions that used to relate to something at the Smithsonian so you can learn about this thing so down here in the far left it's of what does a bear do in the woods and by no. Well we get our information from trapped him we have about the several hundred of these around the world and so an animal walks up near them in a store for according and what bears do is they immediately try to eat Care Bears are hungry all the time and they seized up and looks like it's kind of stuck on a tree might be a beehive and so they immediately go after the what was a bird and was trapped in the next life. PARTNERSHIPS You can't do this stuff alone you want to tackle a problem like climate change you don't do it alone because there's only doesn't have the horsepower to do it so you create partnerships with funders with other institutions we have over two hundred twenty university partners and around the world and with funders like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation gave us thirty million dollars to reach new audiences and these kind of things that we describe would point people to like the plan they give you money for right through important next like. When I came to the Smithsonian the word to know much was not used because they didn't do much snow today it's big. And it's a whole new wave of science those collections those hundred twenty seven million specimens all have been done. And they've never been. So the personas busy sequencing to known them to millions of pieces and I H been beings and Baynes of dollars to sequence one measly species US and the stone is interested in two million because guess what all of you ate breakfast this morning unless you ate something from an after war we are part of them that. We store tissue specimens That's a crowd genic storage facility and we're storing tissue specimen for all the capstone places all right budget versus time a little bit of information on that when I came I looked at the balance of federal and private funding and it. I've been fairly static and you see in that run up of zero six zero seven zero white I came away. Flat budgets both federal and private not going out not going anywhere after we get reduced our T.V. plan people liked it even the federal government gave us a little more money but the private money started really coming in because people got excited about the place and the serious amazing as opposed to being in that next one. This is what the budget looks like in twenty fifteen and you will see federal appropriations is now about sixty percent private is forty percent used to be seventy thirty. But the private side is going up fast now not doing anything with the promise of a nest importance was on it getting more interesting or. As far as fund raising is concerned we kick in our campaign about F Y o nine and zero ten and you can see it going up and we had our bogey of two hundred twenty million three years in a row though they when I left had raised well over a billion dollars to their goal will be alive and they'll easily make the campaign go but we had to find ways to make ourselves exciting to donors and the plan helped us become exciting to do They were like yeah idea of the strategic plan an excellent. Education when I came to the Smithsonian the red a budget document was that big and I handed it to my guards once again to hear something funny. So I asked people what the Smithsonian doesn't lot of people use the word education as if it had not one word coal education in this entire budget Dr. None of your budget is dedicated to education and they're the day it's full of education because that's what this was on this it's all about education and it can today reach anybody anywhere any time next month other can see all these statistics and the number of school who think globally now we make huge amounts of resources available to schools on science and culture are the. This is we now have eight education centers in our museum so in your if you've been wowed by the exhibitions you go down to the exhibition center and find out more and be there with an expert These are usually volunteer to volunteer and help us move this is the curious center in after history it's really a state of the art the silty you love it if you go down and see that clip. I want to just mention digital because the again when I went to the Smithsonian there was hardly anything called it at all it's own and I told folks that this is your this is your transformative agent here because you can do everything you've ever wanted to do. With digital and it will help us with our productivity because we've lost people but digitally we can replace a lot of these people who can do things more productive so we developed us to complement to the strategic plan called a lever in the promise of the digital console the cloud and this lot is really a mess and the reason for it is it's a mess OK because superimposed on all those museums and research centers in our cars and library is all this digital stuff right and so when you look at the digital side supercomputing of this only goes astrophysics and elements they are in supercomputer right but they do crowdsourcing they get people to help them engaged in an activity they do three D. imaging you know you get Web sites we have six million social media followers now and none when I first went there and so people really got into it with video it is that I didn't do it they did but the landscape had to be defined next flood it got so confusing that I finally wrote a book about and I can brag about it because it's free you go to Amazon and get all the best of both worlds great book big bestseller and free I'm just getting you know best seller in the relative sense. Not like fifty. Shades of Gray This is a different kind of next line. That line. Three D. visualization is a huge future for the Smithsonian all those objects are three D. objects and so if you could make them into a three day things. You can take them home with you so today they have a three D. X. website and about one hundred objects so for the white flyer you can actually get your own copy of the life line. Be careful if you're going to print out that you get the right scale but. You can send it to the companies that do printing the no print for you Thomas Jefferson is not a bronze sculpture he's a print. We three D. image Thomas Jefferson and printed them out because we couldn't afford a bronze sculpture. As Nick paints and works off the coast of Georgia and other places on mammal marine mammals but we old and he was called up in Chile had opportunity to see whales that had died Bob million years ago and they had beached themselves and he determined it was through the red tide but he used three D. imaging to do all his field work and then you can print it out and that's a the world's largest Incidentally three D. print has probably been exceeded by now but was that next line you can print it out yourself it's on a website OK volunteers if you have all in tears or physical have a volunteers who are visible so we created a website for people volunteer So if you like those bumblebees we did a tile sixty six down on a nice Bumblebee has a two tags on that tells about where it was discovered what species of the And so what we do is would we give you an image of those those tags and you can volunteer to transcribe that to digital information so you can search for this wonderful image we made of bumble bees or pollen there's a very important partner in Melbourne know their trouble so you can help. We know it's six thousand people as many physical but the digital and physical people who are helping us with our digital transformation giving them an opportunity to sleep next on. The mobile apps everything is all over the place now if you don't have least now get it like a picture release does what country it is and it will tell you everything about it three you tell us where you took it and you are helping us now to arrange a tree as a crowdsourcing tool. Next month. That C.M. but that lot of going on it is the song big place serious an amazing place. The plan helped get us organized helped us communicate and it helped us restructure the entire institution and so at the end of the day you might say it was transformed. But in the beginning we had no idea we would get much done but we called a lot of people bought him what people really wanted to change they really knew and they knew they were in trouble and they haven't solved all the problem there are serious problems there with the buildings because of deferred maintenance and it's ongoing because money's just not there but it made a big difference in of our talent to the place and it was a lot of fun for me to be there to help out a little bit with this concept so it's a great place to be in and visit that enjoy So thank you very much for inviting me. Thank you again and now the Flyers Epping for questions if anyone had me. I. Just heard. OK Yeah well sure I'll try not to think about that and my eyes meet but I'm just curious yes. That's me next year. Here at Georgia Tech. Or any life like OK well you know I love to learn and that was one of the reasons I came to Georgia Tech and one reason that went with the zone in is that I could learn. More in the enormous amount of this myself though they've been very nice to me and so they've given me funding to write two books and of essentially finished the first book which is about all those travelling to all these strange places and watch the research that was being done in these really exotic places by people who were sweating and putting their lives at risk because they're replacing the revolutions were taking place and so that was an amazing experience for me and it really came down to after I did all of that of trips to realise or put them together for the common theme was well good earth is at risk. And climate change is certainly making that much more complex and so that was something that became very clear to me the second book is about where a group and Douglas told you very small town in south Georgia and it was going to be just mainly about that and then I got made up small mistake I said Was there anything in the collection about South Georgia and there is this a lot of stuff it turns out and so the book really is about all these incredible things to Zonen collections that relate to South Georgia and the stories behind those things that you know just in terms of art there's an artist's name Alba Davis who I didn't know about she grew up in Columbus Georgia African-American woman she left when she was about ten to Washington D.C. but she always said she painted later in life and she became an unbelievably great contemporary artist under-appreciated. Her ability to deal with colors and patterns is unparalleled and she said it was where she grew up the force the rivers all the things she saw were things that stimulate her and so I never knew Al what I was it's all sort of my part. I never knew they McIntosh County rain showers who are remnants of the slave Rice cultures who created their own culture get you culture is opposed to guerrilla he says. You know and I didn't know much about the Native American period when they occupied this part of the world before we got here. And it's an amazing story any balding Florrie we're just beginning to learn there but as well there will be a mountain element there are hundreds of melding self toward one another and its own and has objects from many of those excavations were made of the known and so I've been to the collections and I've seen these things and I've gone to the sites the mound and I've seen where they came. The story of self discovery. So that event Georgia Tech had been left up to an office in a fabulous assistant. And so I'm doing some teaching odds and ends. Up in class and management I'm doing joke something a job I call flat and I'm working on that new leadership option in engineering which is coming while we're nicely and I'm working for Dr Peterson on the promise scholarship or. Were there lessons you learn while you're president of Georgia Tech hospital and things that didn't go your way that you're then later able to apply My secretary the Smithsonian and achieve success get everybody heard the question did you select from OK not everything applied you know because Georgia Tech a pretty unique place I think the reason people thought I might be able to do the Smithsonian job was that and people forget about this the Smithsonian is like a public university is far more like a public university as a private university because its funding streams is mixed right it comes from the federal government Georgia Tech get some money from the state. Of the for Sony has the earnings all way it worked in the old philanthropy and new. You know something awful and three. The other thing that this very much alike is they both are built on a core ethic of creation of knowledge and diffusion of what you've missed disposition or education or any and if you don't you know that's what people the collector before me I don't think when I'm stood. Is that it's a Smithsonian stop doing it would die. Because it couldn't continue to expand its own people so one of the collections stopped growing good question I asked when I first came I mean if you have a problem maintaining collections Mariani anymore and the answer is history doesn't stop you know we don't want to say well there was just ten years there we didn't get any funding so we just didn't document anything. You know and guess what we're still learning about the war with Evan Wright so we're making discoveries every day about how it was species in that are documented there that we have a division of elections people follow elections what we have elections over years but there is this and we're creating a new museum after American history culture which is a fabulous museum and it really is about not just African-American but it's about how we all chains because African-Americans are part of our culture and our substance and we all are better for it and so it's an amazing story for example that started well before this country existed because there were slaves here and free blacks before this country existed. And it's a story about only from then you know lazing story so that was part of it now what was different was the Smithsonian did not have a basketball or football. For which I was a turn to Lee grateful but. It did have a zoo you can draw your own conclusions about how those might compare. But you know a lot of similarities in an odd way in the one thing was when I got there or not or looking at all these numbers I mentioned a couple times. Physical Plant so I was a psyche the endowment is and the campaign was a site though there were a lot of a lot of similar in that the difference also isn't of course the way to educate people because as you know when you go to the Smithsonian museum or in a museum we can if you have a child that big that a child can learn in the museum and if you're my age you can organize them so the demographic for learning is much bigger and the expectation at the Smithsonian and as several college president friends tell me there are at least a hundred really five research universities in the States there's only one Smithsonian. And the Smithsonian occupies over central place in our consciousness and it is the one entity that can speak to people in a very broad sense and the same time also speak to all the federal agencies all the other federal agencies and the Congress and to the executive I was you know that because of this peculiar way it was created to have the governing board which are reported to the board INS up with the chief justices the chancellor and the reason that is Chief Justices have a lot of tenure. They vice president is a vice chancellor not the chancellor because vice presidents do come and go and some of them don't have the best reputation. And then you have three members of the Senate and three members of the house respect both of which reflects the majority so they can change and election then you have nonprofits of the city. And have been twelve Regents from the state of Georgia over one hundred sixty nine years and in the Smithsonian's history some of whom were before the Civil War and they got booted out as recently as civil war but we have one now David Perdue our new senator is one of the senators representing the song Doc talk about what you really enjoy it's a great way to learn about America. So. One of you who might. Know Everybody else can hear. How did the large entity that is the Smithsonian with so many stakeholders pivot to accept these new technologies that came out after the strategic plan was actually developed Well OK so part of this pre-planning process you got to figure out some ado and it's been shown in with in pretty bad shape so I couldn't wait for the strategic planning to go so I add up this of a lot of people enough people to who are really interested in the possibilities of techno and I have a feeling that there was a desire and so we did something Colton's on in two point zero and we invited thirty people from private industry Silicon Valley everybody it's a come back and spend two days with us and go through the collections and see how we work and win by to thirty people who are volunteers in the Smithsonian to participate together and they got together and they had a fabulous experience and we learned so much and what I learned from it was and that the thirty people who showed up from of the zone and were a bunch of old fogies they were really sharp people and some of them are really into social media early on and all this stuff and so it really with an eye opener for me that there were people out there just waiting to be told it's a good idea and when we did that so that really got us going and we realize there are a lot of champions after they get these done and as I told people Look this thing about digitization a collection just think about that so you got six hundred people you know a lot of them lost in the collection and so what the collections mean so you as a scientist from Russia one look at our collection of. Yellow Jackets and so in the old days you would have to come here and you'd have to go tell somebody that's what you want and so I walk out like to see this kind of this can this guy and that person the curator who should be spending time protecting the collections and doing would have to go find those things and then be in the cabinet somewhere and pull them out bring them you'd have to sit in a room. Because you can't go on with. Life and so that person kind of hangs around and then when you say I'm finished they have to haul it back and hopefully get it will right place as a lot of nonproductive now you digital and social work that person rushed into the home and see everything and they need unless they need to come in and talk to someone and but it means for the curator they can ask in their time a what they need and are done so it made up for the loss of that plus all those post docs was another way we could attract more post offices and song they could do the work of some of the curators. And so we're able to really get a lot of big announcement to get both offers for something but there was a lot of interest in doing it and it's been it's a powerful thing on all levels taken in productive activity protection of the collections Alderson. Higher I mean in Applied languages and in a cultural studies I'm wondering what advice you would give to someone about how to work towards working for this new thirty and in the future what kind of jobs are available and when and just in OK any means of that I know it's a good question and the answer is as another thing I tried to do was to to reenergize the idea of making it easy in transfer for people to do exactly what you wanted because what I found I did have entered was based on of the ten of the come from George Washington Georgetown just a local university that wasn't healthy so I said you know we should be drawing people from Georgia and California and Massachusetts and so were we hired a good person who is absolutely superb at working with intern or whatever and he created a fabulous website every interne position that you're at the Smithsonian is available to you on that website and the population processes is open and clear. And so about fifteen or previously the deterrent for most people many of the folks in the internships are funded not all but most of them are and some people go to schools that fund internships at the same. The other way to do it the deter Is this funny place alone was not cheap to stay there and so you have to make sure you got all those ducks in a row before you get there but it's a fabulous place and with all this digital were going on there's a lot of room for Georgia that could be up there. And so I would encourage you to think about. It with. The doing it's an honor to sit here I just wanted to ask one thing that in seeking to get all of the outreach of this it's not this it's money and it's reached to the public and it's die was operations area and there's something in terms of ended up in it in. Start ups can be done if it's a Smithsonian on it they can be part of a steed into being the end of lead to an easy money so that they can keep doing what they are doing and didn't make the money and need to get the money that they need to do it OK Did you hear them make sure I was that it was a question startups and reach for this is an eon they're going to reach in terms of startups for the Smithsonian Yeah outreach that reaches the question and this is a need in terms of start over start up but both of those were sort of not really in the startup business as much as like Georgia Tech with it but it does a lot of outreach for anybody who's an entrepreneur because we have to just not only have to be responsive to everybody who wants to work there anybody can read all the things that are doing in digitalization For example we get a lot of people requesting to participate with us and it is as I said because of persona really the cutting edge of digitization The problem is not everybody can do it but you can submit your qualifications and we have had start up companies come in the some have been successful the easiest way is to volunteer to do it for free. Yet they question today. And. So. The business world right now is shifting a lot more from operating on its own and only really listening to the board of directors and others to. More building partnerships with others in their industry so I Apple and I.B.M. striking up an unlikely partnership Delta I mean we we are in a very limited sense expanding our network that we fly ourselves in more just building strategic partnerships with other airlines that used to be competitors and so you know you threw up a slide that had the sponsors really saying you know Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the other universities institutions but what about those what about those tech companies from Silicon Valley what about your. Deltas who have a don't as a Flight Museum here in Atlanta and other companies that are in the for profit business that might be able to partner with the Smithsonian have you guys or did you I guess build a lot of partnerships so it's all pretty much open to anybody who want to partner if it but it's got to be your equal partnership in other partnership or work for both groups I will say and I didn't mention speaking about sort of the other side of it like the home museums the sort it has something called the National clearly it's a program and when I was there we had of the sixty institutions to it so these are institutions that were loaned things too and today it used to be just about global corporate collections so the High Museum can always get things from his own group they meet standards they'll take care of the collections they'll ship them greatly moved tell you. The level History Center believe it or not the aquarium goes from tornadoes and all flow we're going to ocean is is one of our partners to tell us museum up in court for which incidentally probably one of the finest regional plasters will in the world will. Have a fabulous collection for any. You're interested in jewelry out there and Jim right now is the best in the world you should go see so that's one way which we partly but with other museums and those kind of institutions we just fourth quarter with businesses and things like that we have to be killable careful because we have to follow the rules about acquiring services and but we have to mow you with Oak Ridge National Lab as an example for forever because of all this work into moments that they're loaning as part of their you know their the largest computing capacity and they're dedicating a part of their capacity to the Smithsonian gotten word search engine or mix we signed an agreement with USA ID You would never have one of those before USA Today works all over the world and spend money in those countries and the country with money against it and so what the Smithsonian can do who work in hundred forty countries we can work with them for example in Armenia they have a huge need to help their economy one way your helper a colony is through eco tourism or tourism and they don't have any tourism but they have great historical sites of the Smithsonian when they are the money is helping that of Armenia develop an economy that will sustain them in the future and view them away from communism and other people who would become dependent on. The USA It was the State Department we have also an image you were helping for example in Iraq and Syria to help people understand the monuments are being destroyed and we do monitoring with energy satellite imaging to help people understand help a government leader understand what's happening with ISIS. And that bombing and so forth has gone. So we have those kind of them yes the the challenge for us has been with the tech industry is and with any interest or sometimes as a profit motive we have to be careful about what that profit motive is because if you do work with the Smithsonian we put public money in it you know you really can't there has to be a contract rather than a partnership in. In since we had a fabulous experience with our transcription work work those were three people who came out of Silicon Valley and they agreed to work for a federal government so our four year which we paid for the problem on that transcription center wouldn't have existed without those three individuals and it's been pedal for the three D. imaging of being done almost entirely with corporate money and so all of desk as an example is very interested in the Smithsonian work and they're interested not so much in making money all their learning things that will help them in their businesses just not a direct line but they were interested in helping to finance only and get these wonderful objects out to the public and to teachers and to students and lifelong learners so it's a really good bill and tropic motive but there's no question in these things that there is a relationship is going to benefit them and. So there are many many companies that are involved has been sown in that way where someone we have all of our solar cells are donated all of our buildings and so the our Carousel which was built moneymaker is only carousel in the country that operates entirely on solar power and that came from Pepco who gets the credit for philanthropic donation of the C.E.O. Pepco just happened to be a Georgia Tech alumnus. So yeah there are a lot of but it's one of those things where you have to enter into the partnership there has to be a mutual attraction and then secondly you have to make sure you've got the rules of the game like. You know I will tell you for example well I'll go go you little time I was in China recently and you can use Google in China really was a blow but Google came to us and said we would like help you were digitization and when we're finished we're going to own the images and we said no you can't do that that's all we own our collection and if you did you of these things and walk away and leave us with nothing then that's not. Good thing so we work with a company called I'm looking on them and it the way they work it is as they come in on and they've digitized their images because with the digitization thing so huge area will never get it done and so they did it ties in August and they have seven years where they can make a product out of what they did to time but they give us the images back so we can use them any way we want to other than compete with them but after seven years all that through often we can do anything with it but it's a great way for us to to do it and they do work are all the British museums but they're very very they have all the equipment all the staff they just come in and do it it's amazing when they get going and all of the stuff has now been put on configurable because they don't you know the old days if you one of the image even a two dimensional object you have to use like the Xeroxing on your printer or making a copy of your art and they can assume we have to put a certain place right with this new concept if you just throw the stuff out there to be carefully put in the Camel finder. And take a perfect image. So the technology is getting used to productive in terms of imaging. But the Gilson go to the company. So we know where you work with Google for example the Street View thing they've done server music industry. You know everybody has to come into it with an idea about what the rules are because Congress and all the watchdogs are out there. OK That was our final question thank you all for such great questions and thank you Dr class for taking the time to talk with us today here is a little token of our first she said at the family. Thank you any appreciate that and this is one of my getting here. I think if I do this you know I'm nice a C.H. and it's not a slug you know and I don't I think. We all can learn a lot from you know my God you got to take away a little bit and not say thinking thank you very much and thank you guys thanks for telling.