Thank you. Employees give a warm Georgia Tech. Welcome to our guest walk. Thank you. So I'm going to start by talking more from sort of you. WALLACE possible people that have ideas and want to start them tell you a quick story about a recent MIT Sloan certainly came back and spoke in my class. Along with that I want to tell you a little about my story. And then I'm going to. Then switch to some thinking I have about. Sort of evolution and trends that I'm seeing about how we're actually going to tackle big social issues. And finish off by giving you guys some pointers on what I think is a twenty first century leader if you're interested in actually using your skills graduating to actually enter this field but I want to start because I actually think that. Having been an undergrad a graduate student and out teaching it a graduate school that you all actually have this tremendous opportunity whether you're a freshman or a senior right now you're given this free time where you're paying to sort of practice ideas and you may not actually think about college that way or business school that way but actually it was interesting to have a student come back this year to talk about a business that he's now launched which is actually both. Helping with sanitation in Kenya. While at the same time turning that sanitation into profits. And what's less interesting is not the innovation but how he got the business off the ground in terms of the message about thinking about you all the students but are you students or are you being given this time for free to actually test your ideas without a lot of risk. Here's what I mean by that. So this student at Sloan comes to school and he goes and I can trip and. Hiking trip he starts to talk with another student and they start to talk about this idea they have because they heard that you know sanitation is a really big issue and maybe there's some way that they could help to try to deal with that they had both traveled around the world and noticed that people live in poverty have sanitation issues. So they entered a class and in that class. They just briefly started to explore what that idea might be. They came out of that class and they they actually entered not unlike this ideas competition a competition very similar to that and they came in I think like fourth. From that competition they actually went in they applied finding some university resources a little bit of money to go to Kenya and actually start to test out some of their thinking talk to local people think about their idea. They got a little bit more traction. Then they came back after that and what did they do they did some really interesting things they started the go across campus to other parts of the school for areas of expertise they needed and started to build a team from the engineering school from the rim policy school. They re entered a different competition at MIT and then they started enter competitions all over the country. And all of a sudden they went from just this hiking trip to actually a full blown start up all while they were just still in school starting to build their team from just the students they have. Using the different competitions to start to raise you know. Twenty five hundred bucks here three thousand bucks there five thousand bucks here. And lastly and what I thought was most important about the story was they actually started to enroll themselves in classes that specifically were teaching them things that they needed to figure out for the business itself. So they took a pricing class because they really had no idea how to price the waste that they were trying to deal with that they were then going to. Resell back to the Kenyan government. They took a marketing class because they had no idea what to call the company so they actually used the marketing class to figure out how to learn about branding. And what was really interesting about the story was each step of the way there was very little risk and the challenge that happens when you're in a startup situation is once you're in it and you're out of school the risk really raises right. Your parents are asking you why are you not getting a job. You're wondering where the next dollar is going to come. Are you going to make payroll all the sort of challenges that come with a startup by thinking about school. If you're entrepreneurial and have this interest and passion as a way to test your ideas by using the assets that you have within that school and I share that story with you because what I understand many are in classes right now are concentrating entrepreneurship just think about your time here. If you're interested in a start up as a time to really test those ideas. And use it as a time which is really free time for you all and I was not that smart. That's not what I did. I did not use my time at school to actually test my ideas completely. My grandfather was a councilman. He was a councilman in Pittsburgh who spent twenty five years of his life. Coming up without a lot of pretty interesting innovations he was the founder of small control in Pittsburgh. He started the first School of Public Health. Civic light opera and was pretty unique about him and why he was able to do that time is that Pittsburgh was a place where a lot of the big industries were happening during the fifty's when he was a councilman Steele. And a lot of the big foundations you know today were the big Titans and Carnegie Mellon for example so he actually was able to develop relationships with some of those philanthropists use those relationships to get a lot of interesting innovations off the ground like I just described my father was a twenty five year veteran on Wall Street. So tried and true capitalist trying to make and maximize profits which we know all about in today's economy. My journey and what I'm doing in my work quite frankly is just the angsty of how those two worlds fit together. That one side of the equation which is this you know sincere commitment for public service and trying to figure out how we can make a difference in the world. Couple with the fact that we live in the strongest capitalist society in the world that sort of about profit maximization at the same time and how do those two concepts fit together. Is really sort of the pursuit and journey that I've been on ever since I really started to go into this field. So how did that journey begin. Well. Followed in my father's footsteps and I actually started on Wall Street. I soon left there because it was just not my thing. Not my cup of tea. It's not that it's shouldn't be for some just wasn't for me and I went through a series of careers that was my own journey to explore what I was most interested in. I was in film for a moment in time I started my own business which I'll talk about briefly in terms of the journey. I went travelling to sort of explore the world which was also part of my education each step of the way I think I was learning different things. Beginning to understand what it is that I'd be most interested in. Along the way as I did do a start up. It's not root cause the war the one I did at some level of success. It was a multi restaurant delivery service. You may have them here in Atlanta. It's pretty basic concept gather a whole bunch of restaurants together you'll say they'll publish a magazine or do it online is probably the way to do it now and I'll deliver from any restaurant to you anywhere for a certain price terrible business. I would say I used to teach entrepreneurship and I was starting a class by saying why is this a terrible business to be in and if you were my class I'd ask you to try to figure it out but I'll tell you that. You're dealing with people who have another jobs you have no control over them. You are working lunch and dinner so the hours are terrible and there's no quality control over the work so you've just got all the makings of just a business you just want to get out of this quickly as possible and you need should think about that when you think about what ideas you may be generating you're really going to like the business you started. You're going to want to work at it. That's really important. But but in that business what happened to me was I started to realize that what I was really enjoying about that business was the types of people I was employing. And I was noticing that by giving them a job that I was actually really truly impacting their lives and at that point in my life I had actually never stepped foot in a nonprofit. I had never volunteered a day in my life I was twenty eight years old and I was just thinking I want to be a notch. Nor I want to start this business and I was going to go and do that and we were very successful. We grew it starting in Stanford Connecticut and we grew it to be all over. If you know that area all over Fairfield County Connecticut. There were a couple of smaller services that we acquired and it was doing quite well. But I started a couple of programs in there which had really nothing to do with the business so I started bringing bankers in to help my employees get mortgages because I noticed that I thought if they could build an asset that that would help them to have a better life moving forward so that was something I did just on my own and also because most people I employed had a job during the day so I put software programs on the computer terminals while they were waiting for the phone to pick up and they increased their skills they could perhaps get better career ladder and the job that they had when they back back in the morning and I started to say to myself This is interesting. My business actually has a stopper to actually make people's lives better. Besides just the paycheck of them. And that's when I started to I think the Web was there because this is one thousand nine hundred two through one thousand nine hundred eighty seven. Started just recognize that the people were starting to talk about the role business could play in change had know much about it. I think it was just beginning to. Talked about you know I think the term social entrepreneurship was perhaps around terms like corporate social responsibility. But it was clear that I had finally found something I was pretty interested in. So I decided to put my business up for sale. And oddly go back to business school so I started and sold the business but then I went back to business school but I went back to business school. To get a degree in nonprofit management and entrepreneurship where I could get a concentration on those two as it was a Boston University and I had this one of two big turning points that got me to understand where I thought that I could really add value. I sold my business and right before I went back to school. I found myself working as a volunteer for my first time. In Rudy Giuliani's administration in New York City and the job unpaid was it. What's called a voluntary action center I'm not sure they're called that anymore and my job was simply to interview people who are interested in volunteer ing. Find out what they're interested in a look at a database and within that database tell them that. Here's a nonprofit they may want to go and match with so if you came in and you said I'm interested in animals I would look up and see whether the local animal shelter was looking. Phone tear I click print type and them a piece of paper and they'd leave. I think at the time they were getting let's say approximate three million dollars as a line item in the Giuliani budget. And I asked the person who was my supervisor if they had any idea what happened when the people left. And she said we don't do that you know you're giving me the number of people you see and then I'm reporting to my boss how many people we've seen over a given year and we're trying to hit that target and if we hit that target we should be able to maintain our budget so I asked her she would mind if I would just go back and sort of track maybe the last six months of people to see whether I could find out you know what happened once they left and I there. They have that piece of paper what I found was is they were actually. Matching about three percent of the people who came in. That only three percent of the people there actually coming through the door had actually solidified a volunteer relationship that didn't even tell you because only three percent whether the relationship last it added any value to the volunteer whether to add any value to the nonprofit. Now you might say that's alarming but that actually was not the most alarming fact the most alarming fact was that when I went back to my supervisor and I told her this she said that's not what we're being measured by but we're being measured by is the number of people that we're seeing and. I had just gone through. Literally a feral fair amount of hell. Over the last past seven years starting a business. Raising money going through a tough time to have to try to meet payroll getting a line of credit borrowing money from friends and family packaging my business for sale really rigorous due diligence each step of the way. And here was this world where I thought it was just a simple thing I was asking and it was completely ignorant to them why it would matter and it sort of hit me like that that what I thought was a pretty good skill set. I had was entrepreneurial instincts business instincts. I had gone undergrad to business that I could bring that expertise to social change. So I left there thinking that I was. Pretty strong and vigorous and what I was going to bring to the world so that was number one of the two big turning points. Number two. So I get to business school and I think that I now have all the answers. So in having all the answers not unlike I'm telling you what I decided to do was to start to learn about the nonprofit sector to bestow the greatness that I had just learned from my startup experience and from that one volunteer experience. I started to go out to various nonprofits in the community to try to tell them. What I thought were the answers to what all the things that they were doing wrong. Fortunately I didn't really see it that way. Instead they told me you have no idea what you're talking about you don't know it's like to do mission based work. How can you tell me what to do business is evil. You know all sorts of opposing points of view and that was the other big turning point that I realized that while I may have some interesting insights like today that you might think are interesting that the world of social change the world of actually trying to deal with social issues is much more complicated and complex than a balance sheet and income statement. And if I was going to begin to actually be able to talk about the things that I thought I knew in a setting where we're actually trying to affect people's lives and people who are so passionate and committed their life to helping a kid get a better education or help someone get out of poverty. I need to learn how to speak their language and to really understand who they were and why they were doing this work. And you know between those two experiences of this balance of what I thought was bringing more rigor with this balance of really understanding Mission Bay who work has really been the driver of the balance that I've tried. To walk each step of the way so some of you may have been on my website or seen our work. That's really the fine line we really do try to bring a real balance between those two and I think worst that journey is still trying to happen because. It is a fine line between how you actually can affect change but bring Mir more rigor when you're trying to fact change the same time so I left business school I had one small stint where I tried another startup this one failed. And it was a national magazine why I thought that I actually could start a national magazine to this day. I'm not quite sure it's a terrible business. It's next. Impossible without large lots of capitalization. But it was probably good to go through a failure but when I was starting that business. What I recognized was that. That many people that were in my position. Who were trying to start or grow organizations that were dealing with social issues actually needed expertise and slowly people in town once I was taking a little bit of a softer approach were coming to me and wanting certain levels of expertise from them and so I decided to start root cause because it was clear to me that. Having a consulting arm that could actually offer expertise could be a real value. To nonprofit organizations and that was the impetus we did see that we thought that the different sectors should work together but. You know in all candor in the early parts of ROOT CAUSE I think it was can we find a business model with a consulting practice they can actually go out and support non-profits on. And then we had a little bit of luck. And a little bit. Alok is where my startup experience goes to the talk that I'm going to briefly share with you. We. What I recognize when I started to meet with different organizations was that and I think some of you are actually using the book is that nonprofits were all using strategic plans. And those plans were actually developed based on like a two day retreat. They go for a weekend and they would set like. Five goals they'd revisit their mission and their vision and they'd be done and I just had to go through a fairly rigorous process to write a business plan rewrite a business plan to raise money. And I didn't understand why the same process was not used in the nonprofit sector. So we started to try me in one colleague to start to think about and work with really any nonprofit that would work with us on what would a business plan look like for dealing with a social problem. We got a few guinea pigs to work with us. Started Bill little bit of a reputation and we had this one client that came to us. From a very large national foundation called the Atlanta philanthropies at this point root cause was just starting out. We had been practicing this business planning methodology and this. Probably sixty two year old woman woman called me up and she said. I understand you've been helping this other really small organization in Portland Maine and I need a business plan I don't know what a business plan is but Atlantic will have to be told me that I need one. And so I want to talk to you. She been given a whole bunch of other names from the foundation. And she had started this organization called i t n Portland which was dealing with the senior transportation issue which is a which is a very simple the average person out lives their driver's license by seven to nine years. The senior population is expected to double over the next thirty to forty years and the majority of all people use their car to get places in a concentrated area so you have all of these people that will not be able to get anywhere. And currently. There are some solutions but those solutions are very minimal and how you can get around and so she started. A twenty four seventh's three hundred sixty five day year service where for a small membership fee and half the price of a taxi you could call her up and she would take you anywhere you want whenever you want and at that time she was doing fifteen thousand rides in Portland Maine. She went to Lenox philanthropies for a million dollars for technology to grow our model in Atlantic said we'll give you a little bit of money to write a business plan and we'll think about it. So I met this woman at the time I was teaching at B.U. at a small bar. And we had just been playing with a few different organizations with their ideas. I was moving for. Sloan And. She decided to work with us and she said you know at the end of the whole project for two reasons only one was our price was a third of the prices of everybody else. And two because if I was going from B you to MIT probably was making a pretty good bet. It had nothing to do with how we thought she said she had no idea what a business plan was she just was doing it to do it for for the sake of doing it. What do we do we poured all of our thinking into the work and her three hundred thousand dollar going to zation Atlanta gave him three point two million dollars to capitalize or plan to spread it around the country not unlike the way the private sector would work from that Atlantica right place right time like you'll hear many entrepreneurial stories. Found that the way we approach the work that we did with her. They started giving us made what made it much more work that we could actually handle. I think if we didn't have that moment in time. I'm not sure we would have been able to grow the way we did be able to produce the book that some of you may have seen to get to the sort of size and credibility we haven't and and the kernel of that is while perseverance and all the other things that you might hear in the entrepreneurship courses you take is there's a lot a lock of which have to see what the luck is and capitalize on the opportunity because there was a lot a lot that she was introduced and she decided to work with us and then we just poured everything we did I mean what she charged us what what what what we charged her was a fraction of the amount that we would charge today for our work but we took a bet. Whether that was the right better not and and I say that just because you think about the ideas that you may be developing. You've got a balance lock I think Jim Collins book new book is about this. Actually you got to balance luck with opportunity each step of the way that's just so critical. So from that allowed us to get root cause off the ground. And. Really. Becomes the basis for the work that I'm going to talk about with you now as I sort of transition from. Sort of start up. Stories in my own founding because my thinking has evolved a lot since that thinking that a business plan was really going to be the key to everything. To actually. You know a much more sophisticated problem I think we have about why it is that we're maybe having challenges around how we actually advance issues that we really care about a lot so. I think that there's a new construct that's beginning to emerge for twenty first century problem solving and. The first part of that construct that I'll talk to you about is that we need to start to get as good about how we advance innovation which we've become very good at in our country in the world as we do about Social Innovation the idea of innovative ideas to advance social problems but I believe that the only way we're going to do that is if we start to actually create what we're calling social impact markets similar to capital markets but from a social impact perspective and in order to do that and things I'm going to share with you as leaders going out in the world and maybe interest in the subject. We're going to need a new type of leadership that's emerging. So what do I mean by we must advance social innovation. Well let's just take a look from my perspective on where we are right now. Right now we have trillions of dollars that go into literally millions of nonprofit and government institutions and programs. I don't know what the county here is in the city of Atlanta or the state of Georgia. But I know that the average had to stick is on your to fifty nonprofits start a day. In Boston. If you know you you throw a rock and you're going to hit a nonprofit and the reality is is that. We're not. I'm making significant progress on the social issues I think we care about most. So we've got tons of money going in to the programs and institutions and yet. Are we really making the progress we want you know this data source is old because now if you saw the census data that just came out recently there's a lot more evidence of this but from two thousand and two thousand and eight for a couple of data points here. The U.S. population grew by six point eight percent the number of people in poverty grew by eighteen percent got plenty of programs of say they're trying to deal with that issue. So why is that happening. Another one. During that same period of time the number of young people in this number is also gone up significantly who are not attending school not working or have no degree beyond high school is increased by thirty percent plenty of programs dealing with dropout prevention College Access so on and so forth so. So there's something wrong. From my perspective on that picture same time. Why is this more important than ever right now. Well you know we hear more and more every time we hear a presidential cycle about education and health care and stuff like that. But I would actually argue that the issues I'm going to bring up right now are actually critical to our ability to just advance generally it's like we can't wait any longer. We're starting to hear more and more that we actually have to deal with our education system if we're going to compete in the global economy that's a social issue that's not finding the next great industry energy we're hearing more and more that you know it's finally come to the point where we need to find alternatives. So this is no longer a something we talk about more we really have to pay much closer attention to this while we got ourselves a health care bill. There are very few people that say that health care bill actually dealt with quality and cost coming from my state Massachusetts. Our health care is blowing up on us. So while it helped. To get everyone to have health care. The cost keeps going up and the quality is relatively the same so it was more of a Band-Aid workforce development. We're hearing more and more that the people that are being trained for the jobs of tomorrow are not sufficient for what those jobs are so each one of these are telling us that. What one would view as the social issues that we should be trying to do to let's say Help people are actually the critical issues for us to actually have societal progress which puts us in a situation where the ideas of social innovation become that much more important. So one may say OK well. Government is the place where we need to look to well we've got another problem there because the problem is is that can make I get any bigger. This is generally the pie chart for spending on social issues in the United States where you might not realize it but most of the money comes from government for either the government programs they run or the grants and contracts that they put out there. This chart shows you the U.S. government spending as a percentage of G.D.P.. This is during the World War so it skyrockets this is going up because of the combination of the recession and the two wars that we're fighting and now we've got this whole budget deficit. There is no money. There is no money and as far as I understand it with the recovery we're having right now if we can even call that whether it's the city the state of the federal government. No time in the near future are the coffers going to be really full to figure out what we can do about that money. To about that. So that's really where innovation entrepreneurship thrives and is at its best right. Innovation entrepreneurship is new ideas figuring out new more efficient ways to do things finding transformative ways to take old problems and figure out new solutions. So you hear. You're all this talk. If you listen really closely about the importance of innovation and entrepreneurship for the private sector. But it's really no different from the issues I talked about as well. It's why we actually have to be much more clear about how we're going to advance social innovation not unlike how we're going to actually advance regular innovation. So it becomes critical that we take. Social Innovation as importantly as we think about regulation. But there's a problem with that. And that's because of the way the markets work right now. So right now. If you are someone who is trying to start a business while not perfect and it certainly is hard. It's a fairly simple equation where performance capital follows performance and continues to follow performance along the way. So you're sitting in class here and you come up with some idea market disseminates data about how well you're doing and investors of those ideas are going to invest in the strong performers. Investors are going to penalize weak performers. So the market is actually incentivizing performance for you to get continuous investment and innovations grow if you start. If you have a come up with a good idea and it begins to show that you could actually make a profit return the money back. Whether it's a loan or equity you're going to find capital and if you keep showing more success you're going to find more capital that's generally worked because people want to make money. So while it's not a completely perfect system. It's pretty clear how it works. You know the bank. You know the rules they're angel investors venture capital investors the rules of the game are pretty clear. How does it work in what I would call the social impact market. So here is how it works. So you come up with an idea. Right now we really don't have any data that tells us about. Performance right now it's like this huge fragmented area where each social issue is different. You've got thousands of organizations working on the same issues. So the performance information by organizations is limited by their capacity there. They're not measuring that much. There's no public transparency of some way. So investment is based more on storytelling in relationship building. It's not like you go and you show that I have these great outcomes of people start swimming to start to throw you money. So what do organizations do right now and they're smart to do this. They build strong development apartments. Because that's what they should do they can sell to a really good stories when they build strong development departments. Actually the things that are really working. They don't really have the opportunity to spread because the problem is that if you're just being focused on who is the best storyteller relationship builder. That doesn't necessarily mean that the work you're doing is the best I can tell you. Countless examples of things that are working that don't have the smartness to actually market them pretty well. So there's a gap. There's a gap between the things that are working. And how you actually get them for more people to adopt them overall. So if we want to advance social innovation which is what we must do. We've got to figure out how we can fix this market problem. So. What I am calling a social impact market is a mechanism that provides the infrastructure information incentives to enable individuals or institutions to provide for all financial volunteer and kind of resources with the expectation of impact. So it's not now about relationships. It's not about storytelling Not that those are important. It's a transaction. That's based on impact. And the reason why I'm not just including money here. But also volunteer time and kind resources that are actually a core to how a lot of models. Can work so for example let's take Habitat for Humanity. A key part of Habitat for Humanity S workforce is the volunteer that comes to do a build to build a home. So the more we can organize those volunteers the faster Habitat for Humanity can actually do its work in kind resources are not that different. The more that. In fact I was hearing a story about one of the classes is dealing with you. So. Right. That's an incoming donation that they get out to third world developing countries such as an incline donation. So how does that in kind donation get maximised to make sure that it's resulting in social impact for example if we get that so and we send it off to a third world country and we find out that the people that we got the so to actually are using it. Well that was not probably the best use of the soap. So we may get we made a lot of them for the fact that they're doing this great thing you know I heard the sort of like you know I throw away my soap all the time but the reality is we really want to know that soap is actually getting to the place where we say that it is that it's actually being used by the people there actually more sanitary because of that. And there's so much money between financial volunteer and in kind that we're not organizing in a way for impact that. It could be quite transformative without us actually needing any more resources. Now the interesting thing about this for those who are thinking about starting ideas is that they're actually quite a lot of early signs. You know even if we don't call it markets. There are examples of that I want to share with you some of you've heard of maybe none of them you have. So the first is there's now beginning to be this emergence of research analyst reports we happen to be an organization that has started doing these but there are three or four going as ations that are doing them as well in the private sector. It's what they soley rely on to me. Investments in the early seventies they started with research companies like Gartner Group Yankee Group Forrester Research but now every Wall Street firm has the research departments. So what what about research that actually tells you what the college access market looks like right now what works best in the city of Atlanta and what about within those research reports if it tells you what it looks like to know what a high performance looks like so you can actually use real data to really understand what they're like so then actually people that provide the resources can actually use hard data to get a better understanding of allocate them. I'm so these are actually beginning to be used and are becoming more and more public for people to actually use and this type of and now support was actually how markets got far more organized in the private sector and next thing is emerging which I've heard that there are some that are here locally is social innovation funds also we could call them impact investing which you may have heard about. So you made a heard about Akman fund which is an international fund. Where there's also the federal Social Innovation Fund that emerged. The I three is an education fund focused on impact There are lots of impact investing funds investing in for profit social ventures all of these have one thing in common they are fundamentally only about allocating their resources based on impact they're managing the money in that way. The amount of money. It adds up to is not tremendous compared to the total amount of money that's transferring But it's again an early sign of the way that impact markets can get formed. One of the ones that I'm probably. Most encouraged about. Not because I am really sure how it can actually scale but because of what it means is this idea of outcome based preferred provider governor. Contract That's a mouthful but I don't know how many people have heard of the social impact on social and I'll explain because it's really quite intriguing. So the social impact bond was create in the U.K. Obama put it in his most recent budget which chance of it getting through are probably zero but it spurred this whole thing where I think they're like seven states right now they're all trying to be the first here's out works pretty interesting. I'm a government agency and I'm granting out or contracting out two million dollars right now to a host of non-profits and I'm not sure because the contracts are set up more as programatic to serve certain people the government no longer does it say people who get out of prison. The way it works is the cost for providing that service you find a philanthropist who instead will cover that cost. If the nonprofit or the series of non-profits can actually deliver the same service for an outcome at a less cost than the government will pay the cost and the savings will become a return of the philanthropist. So you've got two interesting incentives that are going on there. You've got one and said for the nonprofit to be much more focused on outcomes in the most cost effective way. You've got incentives by the private philanthropists to perhaps. Put up some risk capital. You've got the government who's now developing a very different relationship with on the nonprofit. That's been a contractor grant based relationship. I'm encouraged by this less because I think it's be very hard to get the pilots off the ground. If you really interest in them. We did a talk with some of the. The leading people trying to figure this out someone from the Kennedy School a woman with something called social finance. Even though our website and hear the talk to really understand them. What I think is most interesting is it's creating this convo. Station between government and nonprofit. And that's where the big money is that's where the big relationships are that we have to figure out how to get the markets moving in a more efficient way. So again another sign of these early social impact markets. Lastly is this idea about issue focused allocation of research volunteers and that actually we're seeing signs as well. The one Star Foundation is a foundation in Texas that decided they're the people that get all the America who are in Vista slots if you're familiar with those volunteer programs out of the National Corp corporation or national service they decided to use all of their volunteers just on education and not only that they're going to use all their volunteers on education for the nonprofits that they believe are showing the best evidence they're actually having impact other harnessing all of the volunteers that they're getting from. The corporation in that one area. City Year which is their city here and I think there's a city or Atlanta. That's the organization that you do a year of service. In your community. Well up until four or five years ago they were basically promoting volunteerism as a good thing to do. I'm not sure how many of you know but they've completely transformed the way they actually allocate their volunteers their core now goes in to schools. With a total focus on reducing dropout rate so their core is now a dropout reduction strategy. So highly focused allocation of that volunteer service towards social impact in some sort of way and these are just early signs of what I believe are going to be more and more of a formation of different ways for social impact markets to be for where resources get out the K. to basically buy performance so. So besides just being an interesting story. Talk perhaps why. Why should you care. For those of you who are thinking about doing any type of work that has to do with social change for profit or nonprofit to operate in this environment which I think is what the future looks like it's going to take a new kind of leadership and I'm going to share with you what I think are the five principal characteristics. And then we'll open up for Q. and A. So number one you know in the past. I think you could actually have an interesting idea come up with it and it's actually not that difficult to start a nonprofit. Now you're going to need to be far more versed in what the social issue is that you're really trying to a desk and how to analyze that issue. You're really going to need to understand if you really want to help kids increase their literacy rates. You really need to understand what the issue is about what the challenges are about that. It will not only give you a competitive edge but it will eventually be the norm not the exception to. That's the first competency. The second is. You know more now than ever the expectations are that you know how to build real organizations it's not enough anymore to just sort of go out there and have an organization that does not have a solid team is able actually to know how to build that team and do all the things that organizational development aid in a regular for profit structure. So that competency is going to be a very critical one. Organizational sustainability which is where the the field of social entrepreneurship really started. Is now really essentially were a resource constrained environment it's harder harder to raise money. So the ability to really understand what your business model is you hear about business models in the for profit side but what your business model is when you're dealing with a social venture. For profit or nonprofit becomes a critical competency starting with that initially it's critically important important strategic collaboration you hear collaboration is important. All the time but really understanding where your work fits in with the other sectors and the other players whether it's government business similar organization doing your work is going to be another critical component if you have any aspirations for growth. And lastly and the one that's probably from my perspective. The most important is this idea of adaptive learning. Using measurement as a tool for how you grow and adjust as you're moving along. As opposed to an evaluation tool or something that you're supposed to do but how do you actually be adaptive and learn along the way and adjust as best you can. I share these with you. Because if we go back to. My story. My story has just been a series of adjustments to my thinking along the way while I've been doing that. You know I've been trying to get a better assessment analysis of what's going on in the market. Trying to build a stronger and stronger organization for a cause figuring out my business model which is a consulting practice primarily recognizing our reach out more and more and work with a lot more I can't do it on my own and I'm measuring and adjusting all the time as we go. So as you all think about these points in your own ideas. Think about how they might change the way you think about your own leadership whether you're starting your own idea or going into your own work going to stop there. I think we have plenty of time for questions. It was no clock of. THANK YOU THANK small thank you for coming very much. My name is it would be almost fourth your business. I'm. Major And as a former banker How do you feel but banking is going to be able to integrate with social responsibility and I mean you talked a little bit about how the how the capital markets could hopefully change but what's your outlook. Yes So I mean my my experience so far. Is you know all of this work is going to be much more from a disruptive innovation perspective I think with the exception of sort of outliers and some big banks that control lot of money. I think evidence continues to need to be built on what returns could look like in the banking setting. I think that for those who are familiar with the impact investing field I think if you were to go and look there are some maturing that are emerging. There is one person for example a J.P. Morgan who if you looked up a report on J.P. Morgan impact investing. He's trying to say that there's an important asset class I think there's a lot of talk right now about how people could think differently about how they allocate their money. But I would be honest I would have to be honest and say I'm fairly skeptical. You know the maximization of return is still chiefly most important and I think what's probably more important is that the people who are involved on the other side continue to just get really rigorous whatever it is that they're trying to prove out. As the way that things are going to actually move the dial because you know on the other side of the equation I mean they just have lots of pressures on them. And you know as a as a bank. You're there to make money. And we can't forget about that and the best way to think about it is you know if you're if you're a pure nonprofit you are just trying to figure out how to do good and if you're a pure for profit you're trying to maximize return. And if you're so kind of somewhere in between investors don't know what to make of that they really don't. It's like. I'm either a philanthropist. Or I'm an investor and that's a confusing gray space to be in banking doesn't really know what to do about that. I guess this is kind of motivated as a social interpreter or entrepreneur rather you know you're not only motivated by doing something the Sustainable right. But you're trying to put something in place is going to drive social change. And so my question is kind of motivated. How do you put you there is a possibility of you rethought to putting in a monetary value on the effect of social change that you're bringing about in order that you have some sort of measure of that added change that you're bringing about and not just being. This is providing more of a push to get this sort of movement to go on. Yes So if I understand the question correctly I mean for our work. It's not possible. I mean I do agree with you. I think there are people that try to do that. The key is though I mean the only way to really do that is in the context of our society which means you have to be as narrow as possible about the social issue and the outcome you're looking for. It's not like this they unfortunate thing is it's not this generic P. and L.. You either made money or lost money right. It's and that's what our social issue reports are trying to do so. It's like school readiness is trying to prepare people to be ready by kindergarten right. And research says that if you're ready by kindergarten the long term returns to society is that they will be taxpaying citizens and they won't be using money in the future. So you really have to put in the context of what the return on investment might be and that's a tricky thing I think that the more we can try to do that. The better off that we are. But that's a tricky thing but my primary. Advice would be is that you want to be really clear on what's the social issue with what outcome you're trying to do with what population. To do that. Sorry about that. I mean. I'm a fourth year visit ministration student your college amusement and my question how did you actually with a title of the slide you had actually earlier your presentation. Those titles social progress equals societal progress. Yeah I was just kind of wondering if you could expand on that only clear by the just an issue scale or like I just want to hear a little more about that. So I fight or stand again. The question and I'll bring up the slide. You know. My claim which. Is that. All the issues that are listed here. If whether it's the United States or globally are going to be competitive and see more and more people prosper which is I think what you would like to see right you'd like to see a larger percentage of people that I quality of life. These are issues that we can ignore and these are not saying that we need to find the next potato chip company that's going to supply the one hundred thousand two million jobs that these issues are connected to that next prosperity we're going to see. And so there is a link between driving what I think is social innovation on this screen. And our own economic progress. That's my perspective you know one may argue that you know we can find other types of. Ways to start new industries but my perspective is that these are critical and they actually connect possibly to even those next industries and you know the two times in our country that we've seen significant prosperity it's been when we found big industries that have started and we're only going to get out of this mess if we actually get to that next growth curve right. And I'm just arguing we can't get to that next growth curve unless we actually deal with these things and these are all things that are dealing with social innovation. So much for coming and thank you thank you thank you thanks.