[00:00:06.05] Thanks for braving the cold coming out sights of this lecture [00:00:10.11] [00:00:10.11] this is the final all I'm sure you are your long series of. [00:00:15.01] [00:00:16.03] Talks covered you for facets of the periodic table and [00:00:20.23] [00:00:20.23] as you probably know we're celebrating the International Year of the periodic table [00:00:25.22] [00:00:25.22] it's a 150th anniversary of the lives discovery [00:00:31.06] [00:00:31.06] periodic table we wanted to highlight this year in a different child's. [00:00:36.21] [00:00:37.22] Always the Periodic Table of Elements has changed our lives not just in [00:00:43.01] [00:00:43.01] chemistry which is a very obvious weight but in all sciences even. [00:00:48.23] [00:00:50.05] Terms of other things that we don't necessarily think of it is just times like [00:00:53.19] [00:00:53.19] 2 of the 60 side of a particularly excited for this lecture. [00:00:58.15] [00:01:00.14] Because we'll see how science and. [00:01:04.05] [00:01:05.06] The world and. [00:01:06.10] [00:01:07.21] Politics culture all interact with one another and. [00:01:12.04] [00:01:14.10] Let me tell you what's interesting here. [00:01:15.20] [00:01:17.19] Over the 4 of you that we give you a t. shirt at the end of every letter so [00:01:22.08] [00:01:22.08] stick to it after the rest of your answer session teachers. [00:01:27.17] [00:01:29.15] It was a speaker so we're going to close all. [00:01:32.02] [00:01:33.20] This truth as external scientist and she has a 50 year history for [00:01:38.10] [00:01:38.10] her civil rights. [00:01:39.07] [00:01:40.17] And there she is an associate professor in Syria School of International Affairs here [00:01:45.12] [00:01:45.12] Georgia Tech and directs. [00:01:47.17] [00:01:49.18] The security program and the program on a Virgin technology and [00:01:53.12] [00:01:53.12] security and she's also a member or 2. [00:01:58.07] [00:02:00.00] Says. [00:02:00.12] [00:02:01.18] She's written a book called You know technology for [00:02:04.16] [00:02:04.16] chemical biological defense. [00:02:06.20] [00:02:08.01] And she's here she's from politics and life sciences the spirits of the think she [00:02:13.04] [00:02:13.04] is also the senior advisor to the chief steps are being science technology wise or [00:02:20.03] [00:02:20.03] her defense so it's a great pleasure to introduce our clothes [00:02:24.18] [00:02:24.18] off who told us geopolitics of the Isle of. [00:02:28.20] [00:02:34.00] Man thank you very much for [00:02:35.07] [00:02:35.07] the kind invitation on the introduction thank you all for coming out so [00:02:41.13] [00:02:41.13] I'm going to be talking about the geopolitics of the elements and [00:02:47.16] [00:02:47.16] how elements in particularly through an American lands [00:02:52.16] [00:02:52.16] as well as a broader world lens have interacted [00:02:57.20] [00:02:57.20] with political social in particular in the construct [00:03:02.20] [00:03:02.20] of conflict so I'm going to go back and [00:03:07.08] [00:03:07.08] here we have the Secretary of War cap this is a. [00:03:13.06] [00:03:13.06] They writing it to the come to Congress and [00:03:18.15] [00:03:18.15] what is doing here is he is saying that Congress should follow and. [00:03:25.03] [00:03:26.21] George better stone ha to complete his survey [00:03:33.11] [00:03:33.11] of America especially the Louisiana Purchase at this time [00:03:38.18] [00:03:38.18] identifying specifically what our minerals [00:03:44.05] [00:03:44.05] what are our natural resources for use [00:03:48.21] [00:03:49.21] in the growing America of 1833 [00:03:55.10] [00:03:56.19] now this is coming from the Secretary of War at the time that would be equivalent [00:04:02.01] [00:04:02.01] to the secretary of defense because there was no Department of Defense. [00:04:05.06] [00:04:06.10] This in and of itself shows how important in the recognition [00:04:11.17] [00:04:11.17] of the importance of some of these minerals in terms [00:04:16.14] [00:04:16.14] of not only just the Department of Interior but [00:04:21.13] [00:04:21.13] in a much more strategic or geo political way again this [00:04:26.13] [00:04:26.13] is coming from the secretary of war it's not coming from the secretary of interior [00:04:32.08] [00:04:32.08] which is who we usually associate with things like surveying American Lance. [00:04:37.21] [00:04:39.05] I should know that what this effectively is is [00:04:43.14] [00:04:43.14] what we would today think of as a research proposal [00:04:48.17] [00:04:48.17] instead of submitting to an agency this is. [00:04:54.13] [00:04:54.13] Weatherstone ha has submitted its fence memoriam but [00:04:58.16] [00:04:58.16] he's very much alive he has submitted an initial report so [00:05:03.15] [00:05:03.15] you might call it initial results and then those initial results the secretary of war [00:05:09.09] [00:05:09.09] is submitting to Congress to say please fund this because Congress appropriates So [00:05:14.10] [00:05:14.10] a little bit different of a funding mechanism than we deal with [00:05:18.12] [00:05:19.12] moving forward I want to talk about Einstein's letter to Roosevelt [00:05:26.12] [00:05:26.12] now through this talk there are probably going to be things that you've heard [00:05:32.04] [00:05:32.04] of before many of you might have heard of Einstein thought or to Roosevelt before [00:05:36.16] [00:05:36.16] hopefully there's going to be something that you haven't heard of before. [00:05:40.00] [00:05:41.05] So Einstein's letter to Roosevelt in some ways is a Trivial Pursuit question [00:05:47.19] [00:05:47.19] because Einstein didn't write it he saw he did it was actually written by [00:05:54.05] [00:05:54.05] Leo says large and I know I am not pronouncing his last name correctly but [00:05:59.01] [00:05:59.01] that's the way I'm going to continue to pronounce the apologies to the family [00:06:04.14] [00:06:04.14] so says wow who was a physicist wrote. [00:06:08.16] [00:06:11.13] Actually wrote composed the letter and [00:06:14.14] [00:06:14.14] I recognize that it's going to you're probably not going to be able to [00:06:18.16] [00:06:18.16] make out the details unless perhaps you're an undergrad it was really good eyesight. [00:06:23.08] [00:06:24.17] Says word composed of a letter even in the 1940 s. [00:06:30.03] [00:06:30.03] he recognized that if he wanted to get this [00:06:34.03] [00:06:34.03] to the attention of the political people who could make things happen [00:06:39.16] [00:06:39.16] leveraging the pristine age leveraging the. [00:06:44.09] [00:06:46.03] Nature of Einstein as a celebrity was something he [00:06:52.03] [00:06:52.03] would be would be worthwhile so going through this see outlines and again this [00:06:57.03] [00:06:57.03] is written by suppose it's written by says large signed by by Einstein or [00:07:02.10] [00:07:02.10] says look some more recent work by for me and says lard he's making sure [00:07:07.11] [00:07:07.11] that he gets his name mentioned in there you know so here we have the citations. [00:07:11.09] [00:07:13.08] Which has been communicated to me in a manuscript reason we don't expect [00:07:17.09] [00:07:17.09] that the element you're radium may be turned into a new and [00:07:21.02] [00:07:21.02] important source of energy in the immediate future. [00:07:24.19] [00:07:25.22] He goes through and articulate [00:07:30.16] [00:07:30.16] again we get Fermi and so slower along that that they've done this [00:07:35.10] [00:07:35.10] work that may become possible set up a nuclear chain reaction and [00:07:40.07] [00:07:40.07] then here's where we get to the geo strategic piece number one [00:07:46.07] [00:07:46.07] this new phenomenon we're also lead to the construction and [00:07:50.21] [00:07:50.21] it is conceivable though much less certain that extremely powerful [00:07:56.02] [00:07:56.02] bombs of a new type made the speak constructed so [00:08:00.22] [00:08:00.22] I How do you like that to illustrate how at the time [00:08:06.04] [00:08:06.04] the role that nuclear weapons would play in dominating [00:08:11.07] [00:08:11.07] the structure the Strategic Forces of the 20th century was not recognized [00:08:16.05] [00:08:16.05] initially these weapons were conceived of as just bigger conventional box [00:08:21.07] [00:08:21.07] wasn't known even talked about here unless think it might be too heavy for [00:08:25.20] [00:08:25.20] transportation by air the engineers and [00:08:29.13] [00:08:29.13] scientists of the Manhattan project to clear Los Alamos take care. [00:08:32.20] [00:08:34.06] So then we get to the 2nd critical strategic piece [00:08:39.02] [00:08:39.02] United States has only very poor oars of uranium in moderate [00:08:44.08] [00:08:44.08] quantities there is good or in Canada the former Czechoslovakia [00:08:49.22] [00:08:49.22] by the most important source of uranium is Belgium Congo or [00:08:54.10] [00:08:54.10] what we would call the Democratic Republic of the Congo today he goes [00:08:59.12] [00:08:59.12] on to recommend setting up an advisory panel and some funding for scientists. [00:09:04.15] [00:09:06.21] So then let's move to the mine where over [00:09:11.14] [00:09:11.14] 40 percent of the initial You Raney I'm came from and I'm not going to [00:09:16.14] [00:09:16.14] try to pronounce this I think it's a law book mine this is the name of the mine. [00:09:21.09] [00:09:22.12] Open pit mining that for reasons of geology [00:09:27.18] [00:09:27.18] naturally is high in the rhenium or [00:09:33.22] [00:09:33.22] that is used to then isolate down eventually to fissile material. [00:09:39.07] [00:09:40.23] This was the source of the radium year or that was used for [00:09:44.17] [00:09:44.17] the 1st atomic weapon used in wartime. [00:09:48.01] [00:09:49.13] This is General Leslie Groves the army general who was [00:09:54.15] [00:09:54.15] in charge of the man Manhattan Project by the way his warm up act for [00:09:59.15] [00:09:59.15] the man Manhattan Project was he managed the construction of the Pentagon and [00:10:04.18] [00:10:04.18] he got it to be built under time and under budget is next big [00:10:09.16] [00:10:09.16] thing was can you oversee the building of a nuclear war the 1st nuclear weapon [00:10:13.14] [00:10:14.19] this is an image of growth meeting with Ed are saying here so [00:10:20.12] [00:10:20.12] here is the director of this ma in Congo and they're meeting because. [00:10:29.13] [00:10:29.13] He held ready has prepositioned all they are under a bridge in Manhattan [00:10:37.20] [00:10:37.20] that is just waiting for the Americans to come and [00:10:42.18] [00:10:42.18] say hey we need this for purposes of the war because you have these [00:10:47.14] [00:10:47.14] He's a poser and at this time the Nazis have occupied Belgium so [00:10:52.12] [00:10:52.12] he is representing the government in exile which is at the time in the u.k.. [00:10:58.09] [00:11:00.01] This was fairly well known 1950 onwards more recent and [00:11:05.23] [00:11:05.23] Susan Williams recent book highlights this was the role that the predecessor [00:11:11.04] [00:11:11.04] to the CIA play so the Office of Strategic Services O.S.'s. [00:11:16.05] [00:11:17.15] They were the CIA along with some other things sort of CIA plus special forces of [00:11:22.19] [00:11:22.19] the time he dispatched the director Wild Bill Donovan [00:11:28.12] [00:11:28.12] who then became one of the 1st directors of the CIA dispatches Wilbur Doc Hogue [00:11:33.23] [00:11:33.23] to be the chief of station hope happens to be someone who's an engineer by [00:11:38.22] [00:11:38.22] training and they are initially sent there [00:11:44.02] [00:11:44.02] to to ensure that the Germans do not get this [00:11:49.02] [00:11:49.02] you're a new more so it is such a secret mission [00:11:54.09] [00:11:54.09] that they never mention uranium they talk about it it's called the diamonds. [00:11:59.12] [00:12:01.01] Because there are diamond mines there but really we were not concerned about [00:12:04.09] [00:12:04.09] the diamonds we were concerned about the uranium. [00:12:06.14] [00:12:09.03] This my remains are major source of you Raney and [00:12:13.15] [00:12:13.15] as ardor clear Arsenal was developed into the mid 1950 s. [00:12:18.20] [00:12:18.20] In fact there was a NATO air base in Camino was built for [00:12:23.02] [00:12:23.02] defense of the central Africa of Central Africa against international communism [00:12:28.04] [00:12:28.04] aka making sure that we have access to that you're a Nehemiah and. [00:12:33.10] [00:12:35.15] So moving forward. [00:12:36.19] [00:12:37.22] Western Sahara and this may be one that people have not heard of midnight or [00:12:42.16] [00:12:42.16] heard of Western Sahara Western Sahara sometimes called the last colony in Africa [00:12:50.04] [00:12:51.04] so initially Western Sahara was a Spanish colony. [00:12:55.16] [00:12:57.08] The Spain left Westerns are kicked out [00:13:02.16] [00:13:02.16] in the $970.00 s. it was then seized by Morocco. [00:13:07.19] [00:13:11.12] We know the importance of phosphorous particularly as chemists were fell for [00:13:16.08] [00:13:16.08] milieu with the importance of phosphorus because of the green revolution of [00:13:20.08] [00:13:20.08] the 1960 s. the original green revolution not the current sort of [00:13:24.18] [00:13:24.18] green road pollution or mentalism so [00:13:27.19] [00:13:27.19] Western Sahara this is the areas where more than 70 percent of known [00:13:32.17] [00:13:32.17] phosphate reserves are located this is where the phosphorus comes from. [00:13:37.17] [00:13:39.04] This one specific mine book book Roma here [00:13:44.06] [00:13:44.06] is about 15 percent of the world's production. [00:13:46.15] [00:13:47.16] Literally has the longest conveyor belt hundreds of miles [00:13:52.21] [00:13:52.21] that goes from this mine to the seaport and it is [00:13:58.06] [00:13:58.06] well armed because you've got an insurgent group technically there irredentist [00:14:03.15] [00:14:03.15] a group called the polo Polisario front and these guys are serious. [00:14:08.20] [00:14:10.02] And this is some of their capabilities they have been fighting [00:14:15.20] [00:14:15.20] in They've been fighting for their own nation hood [00:14:20.22] [00:14:20.22] because they are a unified specific ethnic group sense before the Spanish [00:14:25.23] [00:14:25.23] left formed in 1975 I recall the Spanish left in 1975. [00:14:31.08] [00:14:33.11] So you've got there now is still fighting against Morocco Why [00:14:39.22] [00:14:39.22] does Morocco want to have Western Sahara Well there are multiple reasons [00:14:44.22] [00:14:44.22] one of them was in the Cold War This was seen as an area that they wanted to limit [00:14:50.01] [00:14:50.01] the movement in of communists states communist influence States but [00:14:56.10] [00:14:56.10] there certainly is a component of this that Morocco could wants to continue [00:15:01.23] [00:15:01.23] to hold this play and because of the phosphorous purse prosperous production. [00:15:07.09] [00:15:10.07] U.n. wing has been that in and out of. [00:15:14.18] [00:15:15.20] Western Sahara there's this menu or so [00:15:20.02] [00:15:20.02] this is a peace keeping group between the Western saw harnes and Morocco [00:15:26.11] [00:15:26.11] code been characterized as the worst police state that I've ever seen by one un [00:15:31.18] [00:15:31.18] of the observer something that we often don't hear about in the United States. [00:15:36.23] [00:15:39.15] We have all heard of Wiki Leaks Well there was a Moroccan version [00:15:45.04] [00:15:45.04] of Wiki Leaks and this was called muckle leaks. [00:15:49.08] [00:15:50.18] They call them referred to as the Moroccan Snowden in [00:15:55.16] [00:15:55.16] which u.s. French and other diplomatic cables [00:16:01.23] [00:16:01.23] were leaked in starting in October 24 teen. [00:16:06.18] [00:16:07.23] This is the Twitter feed of the individual who is doing mostly is leaking it's [00:16:12.15] [00:16:12.15] Chris Coleman This is this is this is just a fake name so [00:16:17.12] [00:16:17.12] this individual's been leaking a variety of different documents [00:16:22.18] [00:16:22.18] ones that highlight what's called the mock sun and that is [00:16:27.21] [00:16:27.21] the Royal Courts of the king and all of the government that goes around in that. [00:16:33.02] [00:16:34.12] Claims that Moroccan officials have bribed diplomats to ensure that they support [00:16:39.20] [00:16:39.20] the king's position this is an example of a real document now some of [00:16:47.05] [00:16:47.05] these in the the Morocco leaks are fabricated or [00:16:52.12] [00:16:52.12] forged others are legitimate real documents this is one [00:16:57.19] [00:16:57.19] that appears to be legitimate This is from the embassy in Canada so dealing with [00:17:05.04] [00:17:05.04] the Australian government pressure to try to make the Australian Government. [00:17:11.06] [00:17:12.23] Not deal with West. [00:17:15.01] [00:17:16.06] And asserting that there were bribes that were paid [00:17:22.00] [00:17:22.00] to ensure that the Australians turned turned a blind eye to what was going on. [00:17:29.01] [00:17:30.05] As sponsored a number of social media campaigns if you go today on Twitter and [00:17:35.13] [00:17:35.13] try to find the site you'll find that it doesn't exist anymore it's been turned off [00:17:41.15] [00:17:41.15] but given the world that we are in today in the social media today [00:17:46.14] [00:17:46.14] what this initial Markel Leaks has spurred that is a number of [00:17:51.13] [00:17:51.13] other sites Sahara voice being one of them this western so [00:17:56.12] [00:17:56.12] hard another one which has created through social media and this broader network. [00:18:03.06] [00:18:04.17] And effort to raise awareness and then also to target back to those countries so [00:18:11.05] [00:18:11.05] here's what has to Bermuda one fascinating example [00:18:16.19] [00:18:16.19] this was New Zealand so you see there December 20th [00:18:21.18] [00:18:21.18] the Sahara inside Western Sahara side saying this is what's going on New Zealand [00:18:27.07] [00:18:27.07] is starting to put together to try to make this new agreement with West with Morocco. [00:18:33.05] [00:18:34.12] Ignoring the Western Sahara inside. [00:18:37.17] [00:18:38.22] You then get the New Zealanders protesting and [00:18:44.18] [00:18:44.18] then the next level of iteration you've got the Western so [00:18:49.21] [00:18:49.21] hard social media using that which they got [00:18:54.14] [00:18:54.14] started as part of their propaganda or [00:18:59.09] [00:18:59.09] you could say campaign furthering their political interests and [00:19:04.10] [00:19:04.10] we get why is Morocco concerned about Western Sahara at this point since [00:19:09.19] [00:19:09.19] communism is no longer the threat it is purely monetary only driven. [00:19:15.06] [00:19:16.10] You have a group of people an ethnic group nation of the Western So [00:19:23.22] [00:19:23.22] Harlan's who all are being subjected to [00:19:31.15] [00:19:31.15] 8 extremely repressive government connected to phosphorus. [00:19:37.12] [00:19:39.11] Cobalt in we've all probably heard of blood diamonds so [00:19:45.03] [00:19:45.03] Cobalt sometimes has been called the blood mineral. [00:19:47.23] [00:19:49.17] So Congo crisis of 196065 this was the initial anti-colonialist war [00:19:57.13] [00:19:57.13] time shut down the production of clone production of cobalt more recently [00:20:03.19] [00:20:04.20] this is an example of what you call international relations or [00:20:10.01] [00:20:10.01] International Development the resource curse these developing [00:20:15.04] [00:20:15.04] nations that have large [00:20:20.05] [00:20:20.05] natural resources instead of [00:20:25.19] [00:20:25.19] investing those into the population what you end up with is corruption and [00:20:32.22] [00:20:32.22] you end up with typically a great disparity [00:20:38.05] [00:20:38.05] and lack of international development and [00:20:42.03] [00:20:42.03] it correlates places where there's large amounts of oil typically you do not have [00:20:47.13] [00:20:47.13] the development particularly in Africa so looking at. [00:20:51.19] [00:20:51.19] Cobalt through this resource curse idea and you've got one mind d.r. [00:20:58.03] [00:20:58.03] see in the southeast province province this is a province that has a significant [00:21:03.20] [00:21:03.20] amount of conflict going on in sectarian conflict Beth supplies about [00:21:10.00] [00:21:10.00] 60 percent of the Cobalt globally coal is used a variety of electronic devices and [00:21:15.20] [00:21:15.20] is becoming more important in terms of batteries and [00:21:21.05] [00:21:21.05] some other energy devices and here we connect it to [00:21:25.07] [00:21:26.08] other geo political issues which is China out the p.r. [00:21:30.23] [00:21:30.23] sea increasingly becoming involved in Africa so we have a. [00:21:37.06] [00:21:38.09] Condo lease if you want to be the king of the world the next 10 years you need to [00:21:41.20] [00:21:41.20] have Cobalt next 10 years that will be will be everything Ok so he's the general [00:21:46.13] [00:21:46.13] manager of this mine of course he wants to push that this is mine is a subsidiary [00:21:52.01] [00:21:52.01] of a p.r.c. a state owned enterprise so you're seeing. [00:21:57.03] [00:21:58.19] An example of a significant. [00:22:01.21] [00:22:03.04] Geo strategic mineral China having control of [00:22:08.23] [00:22:08.23] the single largest source greater strategic issues than Cobalt alone. [00:22:15.18] [00:22:17.23] And there has been as fair bit of. [00:22:21.04] [00:22:23.05] Press there's been a fair bit of attention that's gotten to the issue particularly So [00:22:28.11] [00:22:28.11] this is an 11 year old boy who is carrying. [00:22:31.15] [00:22:32.17] The Cobalt mining. [00:22:34.04] [00:22:35.06] Carrying away some of the raw material now they have if you're going in you're [00:22:41.13] [00:22:41.13] supposed to have to pass through into the mine here you say you don't know pregnant [00:22:46.06] [00:22:46.06] women no one no children and you're not allowed to bring it alcohol either. [00:22:52.00] [00:22:53.23] How effective this is you know that remains to be seen but [00:22:59.07] [00:22:59.07] due to attention tickler early this fortune piece has gotten a fair bit of. [00:23:06.22] [00:23:08.07] International attention so we seeing some changes dealing with [00:23:12.22] [00:23:12.22] the development the human rights issues this is the next issue to deal with. [00:23:17.08] [00:23:18.09] Which then brings us to the rare earth elements God Talk about rare earths [00:23:22.19] [00:23:22.19] because they're in the media in a number of different ways so [00:23:27.09] [00:23:27.09] these are the rare earth elements that are in your Apple i Phone or any [00:23:33.12] [00:23:33.12] Apple product and these are not all these are not all of the rare earth elements but [00:23:38.05] [00:23:38.05] those are just the ones that are in your Apple i Phone that is put together and [00:23:43.01] [00:23:43.01] Fox come and shines and in China. [00:23:46.07] [00:23:47.19] So why are the rare earth elements significant Well 1st of all it isn't so [00:23:53.03] [00:23:53.03] much that they are rare in the sense that there isn't a lot of them is they are so [00:23:59.04] [00:23:59.04] dispersed and I'm going to talk a little bit more in a few slides about the process [00:24:05.03] [00:24:05.03] rare earth elements were things that were formed a supernova and that. [00:24:10.01] [00:24:11.09] Came to rest in the in the earth. [00:24:13.11] [00:24:15.01] There are incredibly important for a variety of applications [00:24:20.23] [00:24:20.23] I'm going to highlight the applications that have defense significance but [00:24:25.23] [00:24:25.23] there certainly are commercial applications that are of economic [00:24:31.06] [00:24:31.06] significance as well as biomedical any of your other critical infrastructures [00:24:39.04] [00:24:39.04] looking at really worth elements so guidance and control systems [00:24:44.15] [00:24:44.15] whether we're talking about Tomahawk missiles off of a naval [00:24:50.13] [00:24:50.13] ship unmanned aircraft so you're drones any of the munitions [00:24:56.06] [00:24:56.06] that we build our deterrence capabilities on now have. [00:25:00.23] [00:25:01.23] Rare earth elements that are part of the guidance and control systems command and [00:25:06.07] [00:25:06.07] control. [00:25:06.22] [00:25:10.07] This is targeting in weapon systems we're talking about laser targeting. [00:25:15.17] [00:25:17.12] All means depend on different rare earth elements some of it's part of the actual [00:25:24.15] [00:25:24.15] laser some of it is part of the amplification you need [00:25:29.16] [00:25:29.16] to have small amounts of these elements in order to have these capabilities [00:25:35.02] [00:25:35.02] in da di speak you don't usually don't talk about technologies percent [00:25:40.04] [00:25:40.04] you talk about you have capabilities and that's a code word for technology G.'s. [00:25:44.14] [00:25:46.00] One way or so communications whether we're talking about [00:25:52.04] [00:25:52.04] being able to communicate through water sonar radar [00:25:58.07] [00:25:59.10] while radar proof well predates most of the rare earth [00:26:04.20] [00:26:04.20] elements modern version of radar given commanding control [00:26:10.10] [00:26:10.10] in the communications is dependent upon having access to different where it's. [00:26:16.11] [00:26:16.11] This is one close to my heart the mike had so here we have a chemical agent alarm. [00:26:21.23] [00:26:23.12] As was mentioned in the introduction I previously spent time working the office [00:26:28.01] [00:26:28.01] of secretary of defense part of it was with in the development [00:26:32.22] [00:26:32.22] of countermeasures for chemical biological and nuclear. [00:26:36.09] [00:26:37.17] Incidents or weapons so this is taken from the defense national stockpile [00:26:44.06] [00:26:44.06] this is part of this is the Dio Dini publication you can see that I've just [00:26:49.16] [00:26:49.16] pulled out the odd numbers I wasn't going to go through and belabor all of them but [00:26:54.04] [00:26:54.04] there are more applications that these are important for. [00:26:58.15] [00:27:00.16] This is a issue that has gotten a lot of attention. [00:27:03.23] [00:27:05.19] And there's an example this coming out of the office of secretary of defense [00:27:10.23] [00:27:10.23] the accusations technology and logistics also the folks that have all the money in [00:27:15.10] [00:27:15.10] the d.o.d. And we're hearing about new programs that the d.o.d. [00:27:21.18] [00:27:21.18] is funding to ensure that we have access to these capabilities so [00:27:27.21] [00:27:27.21] why is why our rare earth elements of a geo political issue. [00:27:35.04] [00:27:36.15] The United States actually has. [00:27:38.23] [00:27:40.10] Excellent natural areas to find rare earths there's a place called [00:27:47.23] [00:27:47.23] Mountain Pass in California that is a mine that was one of the original mines for [00:27:53.19] [00:27:53.19] rare earths it closed initially in the 1990 s. [00:27:58.01] [00:27:58.01] it was real opened in 2010 again closed in 2012 so [00:28:04.00] [00:28:04.00] we do have rare earths. [00:28:07.16] [00:28:07.16] Sources of these minerals within the United States as well as with a whole [00:28:12.12] [00:28:12.12] number of allies other places Australia [00:28:17.11] [00:28:17.11] we have an agreement with Australia for. [00:28:21.21] [00:28:23.01] If we need rigorous for something or if they need rare earths. [00:28:26.14] [00:28:27.18] Bilateral agreement another place that there's a great [00:28:33.02] [00:28:33.02] interest actually as Afghanistan has some significant supply of rare earths But [00:28:41.01] [00:28:41.01] what we hear about mostly is China and there are 2 main areas in China [00:28:47.10] [00:28:47.10] that are sort of the rare earth sectors Inner Mongolia and [00:28:52.23] [00:28:52.23] then in sort of the Juan Joe fish sort of that the southern area [00:28:59.04] [00:29:00.16] now why do we get our rare earths from China. [00:29:06.11] [00:29:08.23] We have to go a little bit into the process [00:29:12.05] [00:29:12.05] of how you get these rare earths the other one of. [00:29:16.04] [00:29:18.01] Them that up here one of the most concise [00:29:22.09] [00:29:22.09] graphics blatantly stolen from foreign policy. [00:29:25.07] [00:29:26.10] You know you start with 40 metric tons of rock. [00:29:29.23] [00:29:31.05] To get. [00:29:32.02] [00:29:33.17] 750 kilograms of some rare earth and [00:29:40.11] [00:29:40.11] 250 kilograms of the really critical [00:29:46.01] [00:29:46.01] rare earths this is an incredibly intensive process and [00:29:51.17] [00:29:51.17] they're called Rare Earths because there are such small concentrations so [00:29:58.13] [00:29:58.13] you have to go through and start with a whole lot of rock and repeatedly. [00:30:06.21] [00:30:06.21] Subjected to a variety of physical and [00:30:10.05] [00:30:10.05] chemical intensive processes to separate that. [00:30:13.21] [00:30:18.03] It is environmentally devastating. [00:30:22.17] [00:30:24.09] Or extremely expensive and that is why [00:30:29.09] [00:30:29.09] mountain pass mine in California is not economically viable [00:30:35.03] [00:30:35.03] because if you want to do these steps in a way [00:30:40.12] [00:30:40.12] that does not kill people and other living things. [00:30:45.23] [00:30:47.06] You can't do it cheap enough or [00:30:51.13] [00:30:51.13] you can't do it in competition with the p.r.c. [00:30:55.21] [00:30:55.21] because yes they do have regulations that [00:31:00.20] [00:31:00.20] does not mean that those regulations are forced this is where rule of law [00:31:05.15] [00:31:05.15] becomes critical where you're actually enforcing the regulations. [00:31:10.13] [00:31:11.14] This is from Inner Mongolia in a fair bit of attention [00:31:17.02] [00:31:17.02] one of the mines where they're just pumping out acidified [00:31:22.11] [00:31:23.20] effluent and it has destroyed [00:31:28.07] [00:31:28.07] a what had previously been a lake where people would. [00:31:32.23] [00:31:34.08] Fish and booze it was of a source of water. [00:31:38.17] [00:31:40.07] To get a couple other images this is a typical lab is part of [00:31:45.08] [00:31:45.08] the few steps down the road down in the process so [00:31:51.09] [00:31:51.09] when we look at is it a strategic issue [00:31:56.13] [00:31:56.13] yes we need to have access to unquestionably to these minerals. [00:32:02.12] [00:32:02.12] Currently this is a political question how much money do we want to spend [00:32:08.12] [00:32:09.16] to have access to these in a way that fits with our [00:32:15.09] [00:32:15.09] ideals and our expectations for not killing our own citizens. [00:32:21.03] [00:32:22.07] So currently we can still get the minerals we need from China [00:32:29.09] [00:32:29.09] this is changing if Pickel is China is increasing in its [00:32:35.17] [00:32:36.19] status economically the Chinese population [00:32:42.04] [00:32:42.04] is not going to be putting up with this sort of the same [00:32:47.05] [00:32:47.05] way as the United States because the p.r.c. and communist Chinese party but [00:32:52.07] [00:32:52.07] you do have groups that are pushing back and this is the triumph of capitalism [00:32:58.02] [00:32:58.02] at some point that that they're going to be making too much more money come [00:33:03.11] [00:33:03.11] still small compared to us that this won't be worth more be viable any longer. [00:33:08.19] [00:33:10.09] Ok couple who insists the fishing boat inst incidents become really [00:33:16.22] [00:33:16.22] important in the sense of a example in which China [00:33:23.15] [00:33:23.15] asserted or it is asserted that China used their [00:33:28.09] [00:33:29.12] rare earths to influence another nation so their group of islands [00:33:35.18] [00:33:35.18] in China to their group of islands that are disputed between China and [00:33:40.14] [00:33:40.14] Japan and frequently they have interactions and [00:33:45.16] [00:33:45.16] there been multiple ones where you've got Japanese coast guard [00:33:51.02] [00:33:51.02] with a Chinese fishing vessel this was from one incident 2014 [00:33:56.12] [00:33:56.12] in which the captain of the fishing vessel was. [00:34:00.23] [00:34:02.01] Arrested. [00:34:03.18] [00:34:03.18] In response China threatened to. [00:34:07.23] [00:34:09.03] Limit sale of rare earths to Japan Japan [00:34:14.11] [00:34:14.11] makes a lot of high intensity electronics so [00:34:18.17] [00:34:18.17] the other question we China threaten that there is you know you can [00:34:23.18] [00:34:23.18] go see the the statements that they threaten us what often doesn't get [00:34:29.16] [00:34:30.20] followed through on in discussions is they threaten it but [00:34:36.09] [00:34:36.09] they never follow through on that so [00:34:40.05] [00:34:40.05] it's more complicated it isn't just [00:34:44.17] [00:34:45.18] one or 2 it's even China's looking at their ass and [00:34:50.07] [00:34:50.07] going Ok is it in our interests to. [00:34:54.10] [00:34:56.00] Use this to start an international incident because [00:35:02.06] [00:35:02.06] there are a lot of markets that they want to sell to so [00:35:07.15] [00:35:07.15] what I'm highlighting that is to show how complicated it gets. [00:35:11.17] [00:35:14.23] Into yield politics the things you say the rhetoric [00:35:19.23] [00:35:19.23] is called signalling and it's very it is very important it's hard to [00:35:24.23] [00:35:24.23] measure in the way this that we measure things in the physical sciences or [00:35:29.16] [00:35:29.16] engineering but in the world of politics critically him often critically important. [00:35:34.14] [00:35:36.04] The other piece that. [00:35:37.08] [00:35:38.13] Is of significance with regard to. [00:35:40.23] [00:35:42.08] Us in China. [00:35:43.08] [00:35:47.02] After the mountain pass mining closed in 2012 China did start hiking the prices. [00:35:54.20] [00:35:56.07] So so Japan the United States and a few other countries. [00:36:01.21] [00:36:01.21] Appeal to the World Trade Organization. [00:36:04.18] [00:36:05.23] 2014. [00:36:06.23] [00:36:08.04] World Trade Organization rules in support of the United States and [00:36:14.14] [00:36:14.14] Japan saying look you can't artificially increase these prices. [00:36:19.04] [00:36:20.14] So we've got international institutions [00:36:23.10] [00:36:23.10] that are functioning the way they are supposed to. [00:36:25.21] [00:36:28.10] Keely a. [00:36:29.00] [00:36:32.06] Second most common element in the universe however [00:36:37.07] [00:36:37.07] we're writing out of it on the planet Earth. [00:36:40.18] [00:36:43.02] Helium is used for a variety of different applications one that most of us [00:36:47.18] [00:36:47.18] are familiar with in one form of another m.r.i. [00:36:51.17] [00:36:51.17] our eyes or Around here people might be familiar with an arm are. [00:36:56.07] [00:36:57.23] Used in a number of different defense related applications. [00:37:02.02] [00:37:03.18] This cliffside gas is considered a national resource [00:37:10.05] [00:37:10.05] 40 percent of the United States helium comes from [00:37:15.14] [00:37:15.14] this single source of helium it's actually in some ways you can think of like [00:37:20.23] [00:37:20.23] Aqua firs except there are huge reservoirs it's under Texas and Oklahoma. [00:37:27.12] [00:37:28.17] And recently there was a discovery in Tanzania's [00:37:34.05] [00:37:34.05] rep Bally that is estimated to represent about another 40 percent of the world's [00:37:39.07] [00:37:39.07] helium supplies this was discovered by physicists from a British university. [00:37:44.12] [00:37:45.16] So looking at Helium in Tanzania hopefully [00:37:52.05] [00:37:52.05] as it is being developed people will be cognizant and [00:37:56.07] [00:37:56.07] avoid falling into the resource curse in international development. [00:38:01.08] [00:38:03.13] So I conclude found this fantastic slightly American chemical soup [00:38:08.20] [00:38:08.20] association that highlights what they call the endangered elements and [00:38:14.23] [00:38:14.23] these are elements that either have a some [00:38:19.19] [00:38:19.19] sort of limited availability because they're being used up because they [00:38:24.11] [00:38:24.11] are finite in some way or because they have specific. [00:38:29.20] [00:38:30.23] Uses that are making them more attractive that's a whole lot of the periodic table. [00:38:37.11] [00:38:40.06] So with that. [00:38:40.23] [00:38:43.05] I'm going to conclude I want to say thank you all for [00:38:47.08] [00:38:47.08] your contention and I'd be happy to answer any questions. [00:38:51.17] [00:39:02.20] We're. [00:39:03.08] [00:39:07.10] Sure there's a lot to take in there and. [00:39:13.04] [00:39:13.04] As you may have noted I tried to put some of the references there are all [00:39:17.01] [00:39:17.01] the references but critical ones you are welcome to reach out to me via email and [00:39:22.06] [00:39:22.06] I'm happy to share the p.d.f. share of the slides with you this is [00:39:28.06] [00:39:28.06] it was a fantastic project that I'm faithful Maureen asked and [00:39:34.09] [00:39:34.09] Matt asked me to do because the something I don't isn't my usual work. [00:39:38.13] [00:39:41.03] Questions. [00:39:41.18] [00:39:46.10] Is. [00:39:46.22] [00:39:48.09] In what sense. [00:39:49.06] [00:39:52.10] Will. [00:39:52.22] [00:39:54.20] It depend if I can you can answer that in general because it depends on the specific [00:39:59.08] [00:39:59.08] application that we're talking about there are some things that we can [00:40:04.14] [00:40:04.14] either substitute something else you know for [00:40:08.10] [00:40:08.10] example a it was recognised that. [00:40:13.00] [00:40:14.12] We did not have any longer any place in the United States that was [00:40:19.01] [00:40:19.01] producing computer chips so this was 10 years ago and [00:40:24.00] [00:40:24.00] I say set up something called the National foundry that produces computer chips for [00:40:28.22] [00:40:28.22] national security significant applications and American tax dollars go to pay for [00:40:35.16] [00:40:35.16] that now who blinks 1st Again it depends and it. [00:40:39.20] [00:40:41.12] Drives my students crazy I'm sure and [00:40:43.20] [00:40:43.20] this is also why I frequently don't get invited to. [00:40:46.17] [00:40:48.01] A 2nd time too many t.v. interviews it's complicated [00:40:53.23] [00:40:53.23] you know I do it there isn't a 10 2nd sound bite it's what are we talking about. [00:40:59.08] [00:41:10.23] Yes this. [00:41:11.15] [00:41:15.14] Was. [00:41:16.02] [00:41:20.01] A great question so there we were attempting to get uranium or [00:41:26.06] [00:41:26.06] from Czechoslovakia or the former Czechoslovakia now or [00:41:31.20] [00:41:31.20] a national estimates intelligence estimates of how far they were along were [00:41:37.22] [00:41:37.22] we actually were over optimistic and what they could do now we're after mystic and [00:41:44.02] [00:41:44.02] some other things have with us a rocket's button that case that yeah they [00:41:49.02] [00:41:49.02] were depending on the Eastern European or [00:41:54.03] [00:41:54.03] and they did not have to rely on the African or. [00:41:58.16] [00:42:00.21] You know. [00:42:01.09] [00:42:07.14] Or. [00:42:08.02] [00:42:12.16] Or. [00:42:13.04] [00:42:14.20] Or or wonder why one of. [00:42:17.23] [00:42:21.06] The low silk silver and think also are applications [00:42:25.09] [00:42:25.09] that have to do with electronics and energy. [00:42:28.21] [00:42:30.11] Now but I think I can give you a rough order of magnitude but [00:42:34.18] [00:42:34.18] I wouldn't want you to take it because I just have a look at that sort of [00:42:40.20] [00:42:40.20] my estimation would be probably in terms of the rare earths [00:42:46.12] [00:42:46.12] less than it's probably 10 to 15 percent is military just because you got so [00:42:53.04] [00:42:53.04] many more civilian applications but this is where it's [00:42:58.14] [00:42:58.14] What are the application I love my i Phone You know I'm part of that cult but [00:43:04.09] [00:43:04.09] my i Phone is not a national strategic resource we don't have to have that. [00:43:10.14] [00:43:20.22] There are. [00:43:22.20] [00:43:30.23] What are. [00:43:32.08] [00:43:34.19] That's a fascinating question so as we dive into things like sources in some ways [00:43:39.15] [00:43:39.15] my answer is it's complicated so some of the best medals for [00:43:44.17] [00:43:44.17] solar cells and some of the other photovoltaics are actually [00:43:49.13] [00:43:49.13] ones that we don't use a lot because they have incredibly environmentally [00:43:55.16] [00:43:55.16] problematic applications if they are in the wrong poor nations system. [00:44:04.06] [00:44:05.13] So here's a place where China not having environmental [00:44:10.09] [00:44:10.09] regulations has continued to be explore and [00:44:14.13] [00:44:14.13] we need focused on some of these more or [00:44:20.03] [00:44:20.03] these images environmental it's human health to human health often is the driver [00:44:25.04] [00:44:25.04] we've focused on a regular elements for [00:44:29.16] [00:44:29.16] photovoltaics because those are things that are likely to be approved for [00:44:36.23] [00:44:36.23] commercial use as well as if you have to go through the ministry of [00:44:41.14] [00:44:41.14] hurdles to work with them in a commercial way so [00:44:46.12] [00:44:46.12] that's that would be the piece that's driving it again it's the money [00:44:52.03] [00:44:52.03] at the end so much more complicated question but a great what. [00:44:56.08] [00:45:02.21] Bush knows. [00:45:03.13] [00:45:09.04] This. [00:45:09.16] [00:45:14.02] There are reasons for. [00:45:15.07] [00:45:18.00] This. [00:45:18.12] [00:45:20.16] Series. [00:45:21.05] [00:45:25.15] He says. [00:45:26.09] [00:45:30.04] So if we're talking about the rare earths and you're you're getting [00:45:34.13] [00:45:34.13] to a limitation of my knowledge from the geopolitics not the geology. [00:45:38.09] [00:45:39.12] So it's my understanding that as you go deeper New York [00:45:43.18] [00:45:43.18] these are less likely to be found so [00:45:47.16] [00:45:47.16] this is not something you know it's going to keep the earth and get iron But [00:45:52.14] [00:45:52.14] again back to the money how so my understanding no do we know more. [00:45:59.10] [00:45:59.10] Within places that are technically feasible to get to today and [00:46:04.20] [00:46:04.20] tomorrow I don't I don't have a good answer for that one. [00:46:07.18] [00:46:16.10] Was so. [00:46:17.06] [00:46:18.15] Tense any other a fairly. [00:46:19.17] [00:46:23.19] Soon. [00:46:24.07] [00:46:25.16] Since. [00:46:26.10] [00:46:27.13] He. [00:46:28.06] [00:46:29.09] Sort of discover the. [00:46:31.03] [00:46:35.14] Place. [00:46:36.02] [00:46:46.09] So here the helium reservoir us timpani is is [00:46:51.11] [00:46:51.11] doing a trying to be thoughtful and learn from previous [00:46:58.20] [00:46:58.20] countries you know they're setting up Essential a sort of like their [00:47:03.21] [00:47:03.21] version of the Muslim Atomic Energy Commission kind of her and stuff to [00:47:09.05] [00:47:09.05] be able to do this as a natural resource more intentionally [00:47:14.20] [00:47:14.20] now talking about Chinese acquisition of natural resources in the Congo and [00:47:20.06] [00:47:20.06] other places they just come in and offer to buy them or they come in and [00:47:25.05] [00:47:25.05] they say hey we're going to build you wrote or [00:47:29.08] [00:47:29.08] we're going to build you a stadium and where is the United States when we [00:47:35.12] [00:47:37.23] do foreign aid it is tied to things like Do you have good governance [00:47:44.16] [00:47:44.16] do you not imprison people randomly you know do you have fair and free elections. [00:47:50.16] [00:47:52.05] Try to come in so we don't care about that. [00:47:53.22] [00:47:55.15] And there been a few examples of states that have. [00:48:00.10] [00:48:02.15] Made agreements with China and they've said you know what we don't want to be [00:48:10.04] [00:48:11.04] letting a potentially a 2nd Chinese colonize Asia [00:48:16.19] [00:48:16.19] where they are making these long term leases or [00:48:21.14] [00:48:21.14] China wants long term leases so this it's a. [00:48:25.12] [00:48:27.03] Deferment it illogical or different philosophical approach to foreign aid. [00:48:32.01] [00:48:34.01] And it's sometimes it's very hard if you're going to a group of people and [00:48:38.02] [00:48:38.02] China just built you a stadium. [00:48:39.20] [00:48:41.05] And so the people look at that and [00:48:43.05] [00:48:43.05] go all that's fantastic Well I've got a stadium we've got a row it's [00:48:47.21] [00:48:47.21] harder How do you get people to measure Well you've got free and fair elections. [00:48:52.06] [00:48:54.23] Different political systems. [00:48:57.15] [00:48:57.15] I think there is another yes. [00:48:59.06] [00:49:03.00] So. [00:49:03.12] [00:49:09.13] It's. [00:49:10.01] [00:49:15.11] That is it that is speculative and [00:49:17.13] [00:49:17.13] that that is where that's coming from is this idea of as we are looking forward. [00:49:22.01] [00:49:23.06] What is going to drive and why how or how are human beings going to [00:49:28.05] [00:49:28.05] deal with moving beyond the trest real sphere So currently there [00:49:33.05] [00:49:33.05] are a number of different treaties they're all really weak treaties so the. [00:49:37.22] [00:49:39.05] Big what is called the Outer Space Treaty which really just has to deal with [00:49:42.20] [00:49:42.20] you cannot put w m d in space. [00:49:45.05] [00:49:46.11] This is an unanswered question to be problematize probably need to bring and [00:49:51.10] [00:49:51.10] asked that question more to a lawyer [00:49:54.03] [00:49:54.03] rather than a chemist turned political scientist it's a good point. [00:49:57.09] [00:50:21.16] Yeah. [00:50:22.08] [00:50:27.13] We might my initial answer is one that I'm quite comfortable saying which is I [00:50:31.03] [00:50:31.03] don't know. [00:50:31.18] [00:50:34.23] We have some trying to make analogies we know that because of. [00:50:38.14] [00:50:39.21] Climate change we are seeing interest in the Arctic [00:50:45.20] [00:50:45.20] because people can access or will I haven't seen [00:50:50.23] [00:50:50.23] anything where climate change is going to [00:50:56.15] [00:50:56.15] change the economics sufficiently in any of these places and. [00:51:03.12] [00:51:04.13] It's. [00:51:05.04] [00:51:06.08] It may be 11 thing with respect to climate change that we don't need to worry about [00:51:10.18] [00:51:10.18] the whole lot of other things that we do. [00:51:12.19] [00:51:14.02] You know so it's nice to put one thing off the table because [00:51:18.15] [00:51:18.15] the table it's got all sorts of other things on it. [00:51:21.23]