WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.560 align:middle line:90% 00:00:05.560 --> 00:00:07.720 align:middle line:84% MARILYN SOMERS: Carter, class of 1946, 00:00:07.720 --> 00:00:10.380 align:middle line:84% conducted by Marilyn Somers on September the 20, 00:00:10.380 --> 00:00:13.640 align:middle line:84% 1995 at the Carter Center in Atlanta, Georgia. 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.560 align:middle line:84% The subject of this interview is student life at Georgia Tech. 00:00:16.560 --> 00:00:19.360 align:middle line:84% President Carter, thank you so much for having us here today. 00:00:19.360 --> 00:00:22.340 align:middle line:84% Will you tell us your story in relationship to Georgia Tech, 00:00:22.340 --> 00:00:23.302 align:middle line:90% please? 00:00:23.302 --> 00:00:24.760 align:middle line:84% PRESIDENT CARTER: Well, my ambition 00:00:24.760 --> 00:00:27.600 align:middle line:84% had always been to go to the US Naval Academy. 00:00:27.600 --> 00:00:32.600 align:middle line:84% And I had finished one year at Georgia Southwestern College, 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:34.840 align:middle line:84% but I couldn't get an appointment to Annapolis 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:36.580 align:middle line:90% until a year in the future. 00:00:36.580 --> 00:00:41.080 align:middle line:84% And I scouted about for the best school in the nation 00:00:41.080 --> 00:00:43.760 align:middle line:84% to prepare me for the final examinations for Annapolis 00:00:43.760 --> 00:00:45.480 align:middle line:90% and to have a good career there. 00:00:45.480 --> 00:00:49.440 align:middle line:84% And obviously, Georgia Tech was the choice. 00:00:49.440 --> 00:00:53.880 align:middle line:84% So I went to Tech and I had one quarter as a freshman. 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:55.520 align:middle line:90% That was Tech's rules. 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:57.600 align:middle line:84% So I had to wear a RAT cap, and I 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:01.110 align:middle line:84% had all the hazing of a freshman, which in a way 00:01:01.110 --> 00:01:03.970 align:middle line:84% prepared me for Annapolis, which was even worse than that. 00:01:03.970 --> 00:01:06.670 align:middle line:90% I lived in Knowles dormitory. 00:01:06.670 --> 00:01:10.550 align:middle line:84% I was very active in the Naval ROTC. 00:01:10.550 --> 00:01:15.870 align:middle line:84% And worked out there in many ways 00:01:15.870 --> 00:01:19.310 align:middle line:84% as a preparatory thing for going to Annapolis. 00:01:19.310 --> 00:01:21.870 align:middle line:84% I took the most advanced courses I could 00:01:21.870 --> 00:01:27.510 align:middle line:84% in chemistry and physics, in electrical engineering 00:01:27.510 --> 00:01:31.430 align:middle line:84% and mechanical drawing, as we knew it then. 00:01:31.430 --> 00:01:35.910 align:middle line:90% And also, I believe in Spanish. 00:01:35.910 --> 00:01:38.890 align:middle line:84% So the Tech experience was wonderful for me. 00:01:38.890 --> 00:01:40.530 align:middle line:84% It was the first time away from home. 00:01:40.530 --> 00:01:43.410 align:middle line:84% Georgia Southwestern College is just 10 miles from my house, 00:01:43.410 --> 00:01:48.230 align:middle line:84% so this was my first experience away from home in my life. 00:01:48.230 --> 00:01:52.990 align:middle line:84% Tech was much more difficult academically than I thought. 00:01:52.990 --> 00:01:54.970 align:middle line:84% In fact, I've been to four universities. 00:01:54.970 --> 00:01:58.030 align:middle line:84% Tech is by far the most difficult. 00:01:58.030 --> 00:02:01.580 align:middle line:84% And although I made fairly good grades because I was a dedicated 00:02:01.580 --> 00:02:07.020 align:middle line:84% student, knowing that my life in the Navy would depend on it all, 00:02:07.020 --> 00:02:09.750 align:middle line:84% I had a hard time with electrical engineering. 00:02:09.750 --> 00:02:11.500 align:middle line:84% It's the most difficult course I have ever 00:02:11.500 --> 00:02:14.340 align:middle line:84% had to study, even nuclear physics of an advanced nature 00:02:14.340 --> 00:02:18.180 align:middle line:84% at Union College in Schenectady, New York, later. 00:02:18.180 --> 00:02:22.380 align:middle line:84% The main roommate I had was Robert Ormsby. 00:02:22.380 --> 00:02:24.840 align:middle line:90% Ormsby was a scholar. 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:28.140 align:middle line:84% He and I were somewhat competitive in the classroom. 00:02:28.140 --> 00:02:32.020 align:middle line:84% He was an aficionado of classical music, which I 00:02:32.020 --> 00:02:34.580 align:middle line:90% professed at first not to like. 00:02:34.580 --> 00:02:39.380 align:middle line:84% I remember one day he went to a four-hour mechanical drawing 00:02:39.380 --> 00:02:40.280 align:middle line:90% laboratory. 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:43.900 align:middle line:84% And while he was gone, I put on his classical music. 00:02:43.900 --> 00:02:46.537 align:middle line:84% I remember it was Afternoon of a Faun by Debussy, 00:02:46.537 --> 00:02:48.620 align:middle line:84% and I was standing there really enjoying the music 00:02:48.620 --> 00:02:51.920 align:middle line:84% and directing the imaginary orchestra 00:02:51.920 --> 00:02:54.340 align:middle line:84% when Ormsby came back to get another book 00:02:54.340 --> 00:02:56.500 align:middle line:90% and found me loving his music. 00:02:56.500 --> 00:03:00.400 align:middle line:84% We had something of some confrontations 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:03.840 align:middle line:84% because we were competitive academically. 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:06.320 align:middle line:84% Later, when I became governor, I was 00:03:06.320 --> 00:03:08.120 align:middle line:84% invited to go out to Lockheed to see 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:12.000 align:middle line:90% the first edition of the C-5A. 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:13.480 align:middle line:84% And when I got there, I was amazed 00:03:13.480 --> 00:03:16.020 align:middle line:84% to find that Robert Ormsby, my former roommate, 00:03:16.020 --> 00:03:19.100 align:middle line:84% was the chief executive officer of Lockheed. 00:03:19.100 --> 00:03:20.320 align:middle line:90% And I told him that. 00:03:20.320 --> 00:03:23.520 align:middle line:84% And he said, ''Do you think you were surprised to see me head 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:24.060 align:middle line:90% of Lockheed? 00:03:24.060 --> 00:03:26.310 align:middle line:84% How do you think I felt when you were elected governor 00:03:26.310 --> 00:03:28.740 align:middle line:84% of Georgia?'' So we've stayed in contact. 00:03:28.740 --> 00:03:30.960 align:middle line:90% And he's retired at this time. 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:32.020 align:middle line:90% I had to earn some money. 00:03:32.020 --> 00:03:33.140 align:middle line:90% I didn't have much money. 00:03:33.140 --> 00:03:36.560 align:middle line:84% So I was an usher at Grant Field. 00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:41.840 align:middle line:84% Since Knowles dormitory is almost part of a football 00:03:41.840 --> 00:03:44.920 align:middle line:84% stadium, I was an usher every Saturday 00:03:44.920 --> 00:03:48.800 align:middle line:84% during the football, every time we played at Georgia Tech. 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:51.960 align:middle line:84% And I helped take people to their proper seat. 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:53.680 align:middle line:84% And also got a free ticket, obviously, 00:03:53.680 --> 00:03:57.680 align:middle line:84% to go to the game, which was good. 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:04.870 align:middle line:84% I knew Bobby Dodd as a very notable person, and others 00:04:04.870 --> 00:04:05.370 align:middle line:90% at Tech. 00:04:05.370 --> 00:04:08.810 align:middle line:84% But as far as individual professors are concerned, 00:04:08.810 --> 00:04:10.123 align:middle line:90% I don't remember their names. 00:04:10.123 --> 00:04:11.790 align:middle line:84% I remember some of their characteristics 00:04:11.790 --> 00:04:14.670 align:middle line:90% and some of their stern ways. 00:04:14.670 --> 00:04:21.870 align:middle line:84% Tech really introduced me to a strict discipline. 00:04:21.870 --> 00:04:23.450 align:middle line:84% I had a good time at Georgia Tech. 00:04:23.450 --> 00:04:28.570 align:middle line:84% I had a girlfriend then out in the East part of Atlanta. 00:04:28.570 --> 00:04:31.310 align:middle line:84% I used to ride the street car out there. 00:04:31.310 --> 00:04:33.910 align:middle line:84% When I went from Georgia Tech back and forth 00:04:33.910 --> 00:04:37.530 align:middle line:84% to downtown Atlanta, I walked down Techwood Avenue, 00:04:37.530 --> 00:04:40.070 align:middle line:84% and I still remember the route very well. 00:04:40.070 --> 00:04:44.430 align:middle line:84% And the only other thing that I recall offhand 00:04:44.430 --> 00:04:47.670 align:middle line:84% is that they had a very good YMCA there, 00:04:47.670 --> 00:04:50.290 align:middle line:84% and we used to go to the YMCA and play ping pong. 00:04:50.290 --> 00:04:52.167 align:middle line:84% And I think they had a billiards table. 00:04:52.167 --> 00:04:54.250 align:middle line:84% MARILYN SOMERS: So there was time for social life, 00:04:54.250 --> 00:04:54.510 align:middle line:90% even though-- 00:04:54.510 --> 00:04:55.968 align:middle line:84% PRESIDENT CARTER: Some social life. 00:04:55.968 --> 00:04:59.820 align:middle line:84% And then I went to church at the First Baptist Church. 00:04:59.820 --> 00:05:02.440 align:middle line:84% And on occasion, could go to the Fox Theater. 00:05:02.440 --> 00:05:07.060 align:middle line:84% But it was a time of no foolishness. 00:05:07.060 --> 00:05:12.100 align:middle line:84% We were in the war, and those of us 00:05:12.100 --> 00:05:15.300 align:middle line:84% who were in the Navy in any capacity 00:05:15.300 --> 00:05:20.780 align:middle line:84% felt that we were part of the military services in not 00:05:20.780 --> 00:05:22.625 align:middle line:84% a frivolous but a very serious way. 00:05:22.625 --> 00:05:24.500 align:middle line:84% MARILYN SOMERS: Has a way of maturing people. 00:05:24.500 --> 00:05:26.000 align:middle line:84% PRESIDENT CARTER: Yeah, that's true. 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.380 align:middle line:84% And it wasn't a time-- it wasn't a proper thing for students 00:05:29.380 --> 00:05:33.700 align:middle line:84% at Tech to be ostentatiously frivolous. 00:05:33.700 --> 00:05:40.030 align:middle line:84% We had good times and the so-called RATs, 00:05:40.030 --> 00:05:41.840 align:middle line:84% they had to wear the cap all the time. 00:05:41.840 --> 00:05:47.180 align:middle line:84% And we were pushed around somewhat by the senior students. 00:05:47.180 --> 00:05:48.620 align:middle line:90% But Tech really taught me a lot. 00:05:48.620 --> 00:05:53.780 align:middle line:84% When I got to the Naval Academy, I 00:05:53.780 --> 00:05:59.170 align:middle line:84% was well advanced compared to other students at the Naval 00:05:59.170 --> 00:06:04.370 align:middle line:84% Academy in the engineering courses. 00:06:04.370 --> 00:06:06.650 align:middle line:84% And I went through the Naval Academy 00:06:06.650 --> 00:06:10.050 align:middle line:84% and then later did graduate work in nuclear physics. 00:06:10.050 --> 00:06:14.810 align:middle line:84% When my oldest son came along, not because of any pressure 00:06:14.810 --> 00:06:17.190 align:middle line:84% from me, but he chose to go to Georgia Tech as well. 00:06:17.190 --> 00:06:20.090 align:middle line:84% Got a degree in nuclear physics there. 00:06:20.090 --> 00:06:22.190 align:middle line:90% And then decided to go into law. 00:06:22.190 --> 00:06:23.943 align:middle line:84% So he went to the University of Georgia 00:06:23.943 --> 00:06:25.110 align:middle line:90% and went through law school. 00:06:25.110 --> 00:06:27.490 align:middle line:84% But our ties to Georgia Tech have been-- always 00:06:27.490 --> 00:06:28.190 align:middle line:90% been very close. 00:06:28.190 --> 00:06:30.250 align:middle line:84% MARILYN SOMERS: It pleased you that he went there then. 00:06:30.250 --> 00:06:30.810 align:middle line:84% PRESIDENT CARTER: Yeah, it really 00:06:30.810 --> 00:06:32.330 align:middle line:84% did please me that he went there. 00:06:32.330 --> 00:06:36.010 align:middle line:84% And I still feel an intense loyalty to Georgia Tech 00:06:36.010 --> 00:06:37.490 align:middle line:90% is a peculiar thing. 00:06:37.490 --> 00:06:39.610 align:middle line:84% But when I was governor later and Georgia Tech 00:06:39.610 --> 00:06:42.210 align:middle line:84% would play Navy in football, I would certainly 00:06:42.210 --> 00:06:44.490 align:middle line:84% invite the superintendent of the Naval Academy 00:06:44.490 --> 00:06:48.690 align:middle line:84% to come to the governor's mansion for-- 00:06:48.690 --> 00:06:50.030 align:middle line:90% maybe even to spend the night. 00:06:50.030 --> 00:06:51.650 align:middle line:84% And I was eager to know how things 00:06:51.650 --> 00:06:53.650 align:middle line:90% were going on at Annapolis. 00:06:53.650 --> 00:06:57.240 align:middle line:84% But I found myself uncontrollably supporting 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:02.400 align:middle line:84% Georgia Tech, even against my more serious later alumni 00:07:02.400 --> 00:07:04.520 align:middle line:90% where I was a graduate. 00:07:04.520 --> 00:07:10.440 align:middle line:84% And I think that anyone who goes to Tech 00:07:10.440 --> 00:07:13.770 align:middle line:84% is filled with a certain permanent spirit. 00:07:13.770 --> 00:07:16.440 align:middle line:90% 00:07:16.440 --> 00:07:22.800 align:middle line:84% And the songs and the Ramblin' Wreck automobile and the yellow 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:26.760 align:middle line:84% jacket symbol still arouse a great deal of sentiment 00:07:26.760 --> 00:07:28.205 align:middle line:90% of a pleasant nature in me. 00:07:28.205 --> 00:07:30.080 align:middle line:84% MARILYN SOMERS: Did you ever have an occasion 00:07:30.080 --> 00:07:32.620 align:middle line:84% to meet Dean Griffin while you were there? 00:07:32.620 --> 00:07:36.180 align:middle line:84% PRESIDENT CARTER: Well, I knew Dean Griffin and knew of him. 00:07:36.180 --> 00:07:38.567 align:middle line:84% And I'm sure I met him, maybe, as all freshmen did 00:07:38.567 --> 00:07:40.400 align:middle line:84% when they first went in, because he was such 00:07:40.400 --> 00:07:42.787 align:middle line:90% an effusive outgoing person. 00:07:42.787 --> 00:07:44.620 align:middle line:84% And he tried to make all the Tech students-- 00:07:44.620 --> 00:07:48.720 align:middle line:84% some of us were very homesick and first experience 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:49.660 align:middle line:90% in a big city. 00:07:49.660 --> 00:07:52.380 align:middle line:84% And as I say, it was my first time away from home. 00:07:52.380 --> 00:07:54.560 align:middle line:84% But Dean Griffin always tried to do everything 00:07:54.560 --> 00:07:57.140 align:middle line:84% he could to make us feel that we did 00:07:57.140 --> 00:08:00.420 align:middle line:90% have a family at Georgia Tech. 00:08:00.420 --> 00:08:03.200 align:middle line:84% MARILYN SOMERS: He tried to make everybody go into the Navy ROTC, 00:08:03.200 --> 00:08:03.830 align:middle line:90% too. 00:08:03.830 --> 00:08:05.080 align:middle line:90% PRESIDENT CARTER: That's true. 00:08:05.080 --> 00:08:06.913 align:middle line:84% Well, he didn't have to make me because that 00:08:06.913 --> 00:08:08.260 align:middle line:90% was my first request. 00:08:08.260 --> 00:08:13.715 align:middle line:84% And I put a lot of time into ROTC effort 00:08:13.715 --> 00:08:15.840 align:middle line:84% because I knew I was going from there to Annapolis. 00:08:15.840 --> 00:08:19.300 align:middle line:84% So I had a pretty sure subsequent appointment. 00:08:19.300 --> 00:08:24.860 align:middle line:84% At that time, the appointments a year in advance 00:08:24.860 --> 00:08:28.340 align:middle line:84% were not very common, but I had a definite commitment 00:08:28.340 --> 00:08:31.780 align:middle line:84% from my Congressman that if I could wait one year, 00:08:31.780 --> 00:08:33.340 align:middle line:84% that I would get the appointment, 00:08:33.340 --> 00:08:36.419 align:middle line:84% providing all my academic credentials were in good shape. 00:08:36.419 --> 00:08:39.039 align:middle line:84% And having finished my time at Tech, 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:42.080 align:middle line:84% I had no problem with the Naval Academy exams. 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:43.860 align:middle line:84% MARILYN SOMERS: So it served you well. 00:08:43.860 --> 00:08:45.080 align:middle line:84% PRESIDENT CARTER: Yeah, it served me well then, 00:08:45.080 --> 00:08:46.660 align:middle line:90% and it still serves me well. 00:08:46.660 --> 00:08:51.060 align:middle line:84% When I was governor, by the way, I had a great concern 00:08:51.060 --> 00:08:54.540 align:middle line:84% that the Board of Regents was heavily dominated, 00:08:54.540 --> 00:08:59.010 align:middle line:84% which is putting it mildly, by Georgia alumni. 00:08:59.010 --> 00:09:03.730 align:middle line:84% And I made sure that Georgia Tech didn't get left out. 00:09:03.730 --> 00:09:08.290 align:middle line:84% But I think that historically, the governors of Georgia 00:09:08.290 --> 00:09:11.190 align:middle line:84% had been graduates of the University of Georgia. 00:09:11.190 --> 00:09:13.130 align:middle line:84% Almost all of 15 board of Regents 00:09:13.130 --> 00:09:15.487 align:middle line:84% were graduates of the University of Georgia. 00:09:15.487 --> 00:09:17.570 align:middle line:84% When there was a choice between getting some money 00:09:17.570 --> 00:09:20.630 align:middle line:84% and not getting much, the University of Georgia got it. 00:09:20.630 --> 00:09:22.250 align:middle line:90% Georgia Tech had to do without. 00:09:22.250 --> 00:09:25.890 align:middle line:84% When they built the stadium at Georgia Tech, 00:09:25.890 --> 00:09:29.665 align:middle line:84% it was built very inexpensively then 00:09:29.665 --> 00:09:32.290 align:middle line:84% and the Tech alumni and others had to raise a lot of the money. 00:09:32.290 --> 00:09:34.990 align:middle line:84% When they built a stadium at the University of Georgia, 00:09:34.990 --> 00:09:36.690 align:middle line:84% the state paid for the whole thing. 00:09:36.690 --> 00:09:38.690 align:middle line:84% So one thing I did when I was governor 00:09:38.690 --> 00:09:41.530 align:middle line:84% was to really protect Georgia Tech. 00:09:41.530 --> 00:09:43.850 align:middle line:84% And I don't think Tech has ever had a better friend 00:09:43.850 --> 00:09:45.282 align:middle line:90% in the governor's office. 00:09:45.282 --> 00:09:46.490 align:middle line:90% MARILYN SOMERS: I'm sure not. 00:09:46.490 --> 00:09:49.370 align:middle line:84% Mr. President, as someone who has 00:09:49.370 --> 00:09:52.290 align:middle line:84% gone on to great things, accomplished many things 00:09:52.290 --> 00:09:55.600 align:middle line:84% in the world, was it good to have had an engineering 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:56.180 align:middle line:90% background? 00:09:56.180 --> 00:09:58.500 align:middle line:84% Do you ever find that that's been helpful for you? 00:09:58.500 --> 00:10:00.375 align:middle line:84% PRESIDENT CARTER: Oh, it's been helpful to me 00:10:00.375 --> 00:10:02.240 align:middle line:84% in shaping the way I do things, the way 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:03.940 align:middle line:90% I address complicated issues. 00:10:03.940 --> 00:10:06.120 align:middle line:84% To do an analysis ahead of time, to try 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:08.192 align:middle line:84% to see what all the factors involved, 00:10:08.192 --> 00:10:09.900 align:middle line:84% to weigh the factors these are important, 00:10:09.900 --> 00:10:12.080 align:middle line:90% these are not very important. 00:10:12.080 --> 00:10:16.540 align:middle line:84% And then to try to explain it in logical terms, I've written, 00:10:16.540 --> 00:10:19.840 align:middle line:84% I think, 10 books, and even maybe 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:21.580 align:middle line:90% including my book of poetry. 00:10:21.580 --> 00:10:24.240 align:middle line:84% I think my style of writing is still shaped 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:30.080 align:middle line:84% by the engineering necessity to be concise and understandable. 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:33.400 align:middle line:84% So I think in almost everything I've done as a professor 00:10:33.400 --> 00:10:36.820 align:middle line:84% now for 12, 13 years, as an author, 00:10:36.820 --> 00:10:40.600 align:middle line:84% as a poet, as a governor, as a president, 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:44.320 align:middle line:84% my whole life has been shaped to a great degree by engineering. 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:46.200 align:middle line:84% And I worked in the Navy for the greatest 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:49.920 align:middle line:84% engineer who perhaps has ever lived, Admiral Hyman Rickover. 00:10:49.920 --> 00:10:55.630 align:middle line:84% And I was able to, within certain boundaries, 00:10:55.630 --> 00:10:59.670 align:middle line:84% get along well with probably the sternest taskmaster 00:10:59.670 --> 00:11:01.550 align:middle line:84% that any young person has ever had, 00:11:01.550 --> 00:11:05.030 align:middle line:84% Admiral Rickover, because I did have the Georgia Tech 00:11:05.030 --> 00:11:05.605 align:middle line:90% background. 00:11:05.605 --> 00:11:07.230 align:middle line:84% MARILYN SOMERS: We set you up for that. 00:11:07.230 --> 00:11:08.470 align:middle line:90% PRESIDENT CARTER: That's right. 00:11:08.470 --> 00:11:09.970 align:middle line:84% And I remember when I was president, 00:11:09.970 --> 00:11:12.070 align:middle line:90% I came back to Georgia Tech. 00:11:12.070 --> 00:11:17.750 align:middle line:84% There's a law in Georgia that prohibits the universities 00:11:17.750 --> 00:11:20.950 align:middle line:90% from giving honorary degrees. 00:11:20.950 --> 00:11:23.970 align:middle line:84% And I was invited back to make, I think, 00:11:23.970 --> 00:11:26.930 align:middle line:84% the graduation address at Georgia Tech, maybe in 1978. 00:11:26.930 --> 00:11:29.110 align:middle line:90% I don't remember the exact year. 00:11:29.110 --> 00:11:31.790 align:middle line:84% And they changed the law to say that anyone 00:11:31.790 --> 00:11:37.150 align:middle line:84% who is an alumnus of a university in Georgia, who later 00:11:37.150 --> 00:11:39.230 align:middle line:84% became president of the United States, 00:11:39.230 --> 00:11:40.370 align:middle line:90% can get an honorary degree. 00:11:40.370 --> 00:11:42.932 align:middle line:84% So I have an honorary degree from Georgia Tech. 00:11:42.932 --> 00:11:44.390 align:middle line:84% MARILYN SOMERS: Oh, wonderful case. 00:11:44.390 --> 00:11:47.950 align:middle line:84% PRESIDENT CARTER: So I'm not just an avid and grateful 00:11:47.950 --> 00:11:49.990 align:middle line:90% undergraduate, but I'm also-- 00:11:49.990 --> 00:11:53.693 align:middle line:84% I have a PhD from Georgia Tech as an honorary. 00:11:53.693 --> 00:11:55.860 align:middle line:84% MARILYN SOMERS: But which we're very proud of as you 00:11:55.860 --> 00:11:57.860 align:middle line:90% are, too, very proud. 00:11:57.860 --> 00:12:00.240 align:middle line:84% Can you think of anything else you want to share with us? 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:01.657 align:middle line:84% We know how valuable your time is. 00:12:01.657 --> 00:12:03.073 align:middle line:84% PRESIDENT CARTER: No, I think not. 00:12:03.073 --> 00:12:04.480 align:middle line:84% Except here at the Carter Center, 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:07.540 align:middle line:84% we still rely very heavily on Georgia Tech. 00:12:07.540 --> 00:12:11.100 align:middle line:84% When we have an interesting challenge in Latin America 00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:16.980 align:middle line:84% or with a developing nation, or with a special factor, say, 00:12:16.980 --> 00:12:21.260 align:middle line:84% forestry or environment, I regularly 00:12:21.260 --> 00:12:23.820 align:middle line:90% turn to Georgia Tech for help. 00:12:23.820 --> 00:12:26.220 align:middle line:84% When we had the first major conference here at the Carter 00:12:26.220 --> 00:12:29.300 align:middle line:84% Center after it was established on nuclear arms control, 00:12:29.300 --> 00:12:31.300 align:middle line:84% we shared with Georgia Tech the responsibility 00:12:31.300 --> 00:12:36.620 align:middle line:84% for analyzing the theoretical and practical nature of arms 00:12:36.620 --> 00:12:37.860 align:middle line:90% control. 00:12:37.860 --> 00:12:41.698 align:middle line:84% And so we've tried to retain our ties with Georgia Tech 00:12:41.698 --> 00:12:42.740 align:middle line:90% very easily, I might say. 00:12:42.740 --> 00:12:46.240 align:middle line:84% It hadn't been a difficult thing right up to the present moment. 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:48.980 align:middle line:84% And as you know, in the Atlanta project, which 00:12:48.980 --> 00:12:53.140 align:middle line:84% is one of our major efforts at the Carter Center, 00:12:53.140 --> 00:12:57.360 align:middle line:84% Georgia Tech is an academic partner of one 00:12:57.360 --> 00:12:59.040 align:middle line:90% of our key cluster communities. 00:12:59.040 --> 00:13:05.680 align:middle line:84% So in every way we can, we still use the Georgia Tech support. 00:13:05.680 --> 00:13:08.500 align:middle line:84% And the central headquarters of Atlanta project, 00:13:08.500 --> 00:13:11.120 align:middle line:84% the entire computer system, as you may know, 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:16.320 align:middle line:84% has been devised and shaped by a cooperation between Georgia Tech 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.320 align:middle line:90% experts and IBM. 00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:20.640 align:middle line:84% So in many ways, my present life is still 00:13:20.640 --> 00:13:22.375 align:middle line:84% shaped to a great degree by Georgia Tech. 00:13:22.375 --> 00:13:24.000 align:middle line:84% MARILYN SOMERS: Wonderful partnerships. 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:25.680 align:middle line:90% Wonderful collaborations. 00:13:25.680 --> 00:13:27.488 align:middle line:84% PRESIDENT CARTER: Since I was 18 years old. 00:13:27.488 --> 00:13:29.780 align:middle line:84% MARILYN SOMERS: Thank you very much for your time, sir. 00:13:29.780 --> 00:13:31.405 align:middle line:84% PRESIDENT CARTER: It's a real pleasure. 00:13:31.405 --> 00:13:32.330 align:middle line:90% Thank you, Marilyn. 00:13:32.330 --> 00:14:53.000 align:middle line:90%