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>> Welcome to today's of that what the author's pin brain **** from alex to Atlanta. I'd like to welcome you to this event. My name is Catherine nancy and I'm the public programming and community engagement librarian for the Georgia Tech library. So without further ado, i'd like to invite dr.

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I to jordan from holla foundation to give us the welcome today's event. Feel free on behalf of the hollow foundation. It is a great pleasure for me to extend a very warm welcome to you. I would prefer to welcome all of you in person s. atlanta in Spring is one of the nicest places on earth.

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No, tyler was a german native list in the United States for about half of his adult life. We came to understand and less than 2 countries and believed that greater knowledge and understanding of each of us are scientists, the organizational culture sports, where they could go to legal system as well as customs and habits with foster increase friendship.

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When the german american improve relationships between the 2 nations and thereby promoting the cross off world peace. He had a very unique and remarkable professional career. You 101950 delivery, a truck driver for coca cola, germany and he worked his way up to become president of coca cola in germany, color europe, and ultimately coca cola international aware he was largely responsible for the world wide success of one of the best known brands in the world having accumulated, consider up and not having any children.

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Yes, that was the hollow foundation in 1986 with a mission to promote understanding knowledge and friendship between the last germany as soon as you're in context and those of that item states 10 says, passing in 2004 the foundation as a corporate hundreds of projects and over 50 different organizations on both sides of the atlantic.

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creating opportunities and enabling store to speech us and scholars. They exchange ideas don't knowledge and build long lasting friendships. This even only present only the 2nd time for the nation to be involved with an exhibition. And we are very excited to sponsor this finding world exhibit and georgia Tech library showcasing the life and work of our educated design.

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I can bring the personal greeting to doctor go. Doctor us again. We would rather like to ask you here than on the computer screen. Many things to you and many things to the chaff. Jennifer graham, the wonderful team at Georgia Tech, and the german counselor general for making this event reality.

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Thank you very much. Good afternoon, here and good evening and germany. I'm leslie sharp, dean of the Georgia Tech library. It is my honor to be here today. And like doctor jordan, i wish that all of you could be here in Atlanta today to talk with us in person and to see the wonderful exhibition hen bring **** from alrick to Atlanta.

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I want to thank a few people. I want to thank dr. Jordan and the hollow foundation for the funding to help support the exhibition. I want to say catherine mancy, who is moderating today's bed, and who has been working so hard for all of our public programming around the exhibition.

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As well as jennifer brant with the german counseling. And I want to thank kirk henderson who is one of the curators of the exempt of the exhibition. He is our generating exhibit manager here at Georgia Tech. But I mostly want to thank dr. Gloria cook, nick and Dr.

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Renee shown because of the fact that it was their curiosity, their interest, their commitment, their hard work that brought all of this together. They started with the threat of, of an idea that really brought them across 2 continents and 3 countries to really find out who, what can bring that.

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So it is my honor to introduce them today, and I want to thank everybody who is involved. But dr. Gloria who's net and Dr. run, show me our, our featured speakers today. And Dr. cook, nick is the director of the learn all sen gallery and quite lindberg, germany.

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After study in our history at the fry university at berlin, he worked at the oldenburg state museum of art and cultural history from 2014 to 2020 work and research interest includes modern art, the cultural history of the weimar republic, and about how he is a freelance or critic and lecture welcome dr.

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Dr. And here storm doors, as the director of the oldenburg state museum for art and cultural history. Here is an honorary professor of our history at the University of breyman, with his special focus on modern art history. news in history, the history of photography and the art market history of the early 20th Century.

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So welcome and today the way this is going to work is that Dr. cook, nick is going to present a overview of their book. And she has got some slides to share with us and then we're going to follow with a conversation. So I'm going to turn it over to Dr.

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Nick right now. Thank you for the introduction and how to everybody on the world. It's so great to get together just it's not in person but such an honor to have you all here and I just saw the chat that smoke. You're in Atlanta, someone oldenburg, some incredible.

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Some I don't know everywhere around the World is a really great print platter. And this is what the dyna and I saw this would be the, the story off in britain big gets around the World and business at the moment maybe to stop this. So my idea was to give you a short introduction in the book, but not only in the book, but about the research rhina and I did june the last years.

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And yeah, just let me start with the just few words around the bow house, which was founded in 1919 environments. It was one of the most important, it became one of the most important school for art and design for craft and fine arts, and it changed plays in 1925 to death.

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So we're also the program change a little bit from the hand crafts arts change to industrial design, and at this time in the end of the school. And here you can see the famous power building and that's out and famous for example, is also this last curtain wall.

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And this is just to remember for, for one of the next pages. So this is a place in bring the end of the school $926.00, and the amazing thing visor go up. You're the one here in the middle is remarkable because he has always this table around his neck is that she brought together a lot of really interesting person, processors to one of the most important skills in Europe, in the 19 or in the 20th Century.

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So the most important painters and designers, for example, alaska mahoney. Not sure, but bio also massive via and penned in ski polk li lima fining also really famous artists and they all get together at the 1st environment and later in depth. And the school nowadays is more or less famous for the products they made over there.

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For example, the steel chairs and the lambs and designs like this. You can see on the screen though the metal workshop and all these 3 products are from the metal workshop is or was one of the most important workshops at the school. But there was also a workshop before leaving or for what offer different materials.

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What was also really important about the buy house, the pupil of the people who studied there came from all over the world. So from japan like the one on the left hand side. You volume of ocoee or from a gen tina from the US, from switzerland, from so from you're really all over the world and also a woman.

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Well now to study at the school, which was in the 1920 is not allowed at other schools are not at all screwed. So the bathrooms really modern and in this time. So and progressive and laboratory for new ideas. And here you can see some ice photos of the you know, the fun they have and their so for example, but also of the experiments they also did in the field of When we started our research, it was in 2016.

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We tried to detect for dear friends about how students from our read to region and older book. And this took us the last 3 years to do all the research. And the final moment was a big exhibition and 201912019 session or 2 p. And I'm puzzling between o T O P R and adoption.

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And one of the most interesting person retried research from our each of us in britain. ****, you can see here his shadow of which was designed was made by marianna bland, call student from him. braden big. And he was the most importantly but also interesting person. And we notice that when we found the, as that there's much of work to do, and this also more work to do than which was possible to do within the 3 years, we had to prepare the 1st exhibition.

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So here you have a little a glimpse into the last day, like we founded in the family. And I welcome really welcome. How we met in November 2017, at our conference and on board about the ball house. And your daughter showed us a little bit of the estimate on her.

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I pad and I thought, my God was this and how can, how can receive this and total. And then we travel to the island where the family now lives in January 2018. And then we got through all the material sitting together at the kitchen table and we went through the material to see what was inside the boxes.

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And it was a lot, as you can see, and also we have original labels brendige made. And what was interesting for us, a lot of the stuff was written in jim. So we tried to sit together and to translate and to see what was inside these boxes. And then the family decided to hands this material over to him on book and february 2018.

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Then we started again the research, the stuff we found. And this was the result of the 1st research project about the for old book students. And this is the old book i was and then to 19, so the big exhibition we made for the japanese about house 100 years now elaborate or those important exhibition we made in 2019 for the 100 the 1st day of the buy house.

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And we have here some the important bergs from the old book, students around the corner. There are the objects about him brendige, but we both right. And I noticed the story is not sold in total, so we have to go on. And this was when we tried to find new grands and re applied for new grants.

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We finally got them and then we tried to start or we tried to research project hindley, india from our to Atlanta. This is the funniest thing, because this is the image you know, from the public relations or from the invitation. Also for this book, talk today and June our research, we noticed that it's a dollar for tray was good, a max, who was also a student at the ball house.

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In the one we found as a private collection in frankfort, it was kept in 2 pieces. So we just saw the left hub. When we go on, or when we went on with our research, we notice that it's a double play tray. And this is the funny thing about the whole story that when we started we found little pieces, but it took more than more than 4 years to, to found.

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Not each but more and more pieces of the big puzzle to, to tell the whole story of him. And now I like to give you a shirt ram through the life of fin brendige. And this is also connected with dia, story of our research here. For example, you'll see the general store of the family and I'll like this photo, for example, is from how much but in the choose also today in our conference This is girl gave us an idea of the original plays for him.

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Brenda came from the also from the family and he had a lot of siblings. So it was not usual or it was not sad that it's easy to do this long way to america because all his The things you was the only one who studied and went to a higher education like or who gets a higher educational level though he 1st started in hamburg and, and stood got so 2 art schools and germany, but he wasn't satisfied with the program and then he noticed the house and that's what she entered.

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And 927 years again, the the, the one half we already know about. And then he entered the house. And the most important thing he learned, or he entered was the primary cause of the pre caused by years of albums, where they did some constructions, construction studies was different materials like last a wire and different stuff.

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And this is the idea of how, of working with different materials and to see how they work together. And a lot of these early things he learned at the bowels, he brought also to the you ask 1st chicago and later to Atlanta. Then he handled the metal workshop.

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Here he is sitting in front at his desk. behind him is Molly on a bond? And this is funny because we've been to an exhibition where this photo was on a huge wall. And just when we went to to this exhibition, we saw for example, here, this name in britain, nick on his map or on his older this was of, honestly because we've, we have seen this image for so often and then Yes to look again and again to see the details returned to thing and maybe new to you.

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And what you designed on the metal workshop where for example, this lambs, some of them are also in family ownerships. But they were produced in a high level Was Though a lot of them were produced. And one of the nephews or brand nachos is also in our check today who's taking care of their can them.

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Sorry. Your prediction, who is this is off, is for the interest of and takes care of the Academy doris for council. And this is why I was a chair. brendige designed together was helen galico. gobble is was a german and also old book student from the bow house.

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And this chair is nowadays and berlin at the bottom of the archive. And when we found the S date in Ireland, we found the sketch, which is related to the, to the chair. So this is the fascinating thing that all the different pieces of the state and ireland and also the parts in Atlanta or in.

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And they all, if you bring them together, they all can, can tell the whole story of printing. And here for grammar we have and little view inside the metal workshop. And I showed you in the beginning of my presentation, the last front or the last broken wall of the bible, which is now behind the curtains here.

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So this is from inside the building, the famous house building, and this is home on gaucho and the photo. And this is Marianne brand. And the photo, for example, is also from the clinic essay, which is now in bel them. After leaving the bow house, the nick had a short period of time in berlin.

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Then he changed to switzerland where he again designed some lamps, which are really, really fascinating in the little details. For example, with this little cat out over here all with was a chain. And this was again, something you have to bring to gather the pieces from all over the world to understand the whole story.

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But on the left hand side, you have the lamp design for the back to be in Switzerland and on the right hand side you have a lot of these rooms which is now in Atlanta. And I don't know, but I'm visual. It's also part of the exhibition now After leaving switzerland.

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And when the nazis came to power, also britain **** decided to leaf gemini, not because he was jewish or something. No, he wasn't bad. She tried to me. Or he wanted to go on with his work and also with him. modern work modernist work and not only brendige, emigrated to the United States, but also his former teachers.

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For example, if I was, that's the level in notch over year and here go pos maza boy align finding, and they all m drive it to the United States and that they found it a new bow house and 1937 in Chicago and britain. Nick, who wasn't at the beginning, able to speak in English at the I was lack in the to have on american why for ginia?

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And she translated in the 1st mom's his courses when he became a teacher at the new ball house. And this for gamble on the right hand side, you see a letter from lackland holy, not to him, bleeding on the famous, but really rare by house. Now a letter or a paper from the new ball house in Chicago.

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And on the left hand side, you have the poetry, photo, or quadrant photography from Virginia, which we found in Ohio because in 2019. And I had trouble to Pennsylvania to the penn state University for a conference. And that's not so far from Ohio. Then germany is and then we decided to visit one of the artists, and she had this photo photography from her mother virginia.

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And this was for us really important because we haven't had an idea of Virginia just how she looked during the night in 30 or 900 fancies. And this is a photo brendige took from Virginia in Switzerland. So the houses here in the background are from the settlement wearable indic and his wife lived in the US 93940 s r 3033 in 34 though they both travelled and moved together to Chicago and then clinic became a teacher at the near ball house and he continued the work he began in gemini.

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And for example, here you can see some of the objects which were made in the preliminary cause he now was the teacher at so And this is interesting because we can identify the objects not only from the calls, but also from the huge exhibition which took place in New York, in the museum of modern art, $939.00, which are made in the course of frenzy.

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And here you see law hand scout brendige. Then the students made in his courses at the new bow house. And this is something A technique he invented by himself and he also brought to, to Atlanta. So the object to Yeah. So which were important to know or to learn about the material by catching the surface of them, for example.

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In 1947, but it became of the institute of design, which is When the new bars chicago was close. 70 years after its reopened. And then as the institute of design and some years later he came again teacher. And here you see him sitting together with nice and learn out, and together with him, he opened a do it yourself Miss.

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And they produced, for example, these chairs like the one on top of the love page over here. And this is interesting that the chancellor example is now in the milwaukee art museum and the full sized pattern we found in family ownership and the chair in milwaukee is now when you Google it, you found the chair is by nathan learner and fin brendige because nathan learners still more famous in America than him clinic, bob the idea and also the the making of this chair is I think more the part or me is more idea in 3 days.

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Then off nation unable because when the, when he wasn't, i'll like he became a carpenter. So he started with the work and was bored and she was In this material. I'm very Good. Good in this material to farmer, while nathan, nana was he was new to the material of what so I think it's the product of him that often a but in the 1940 s as it was something completely new to do it yourself.

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This is something today when we go to we can buy some furniture and we do it at ourselves at home. But in the 900 for these it was something new to have the pieces and to put them together at home 959. He then entered his final destination or his final work.

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And this was in Atlanta when he became processor and teacher in industrial design in Atlanta. Here we can see him around his are together with his students. He's in the middle off the group and is, are also a chopper feast from the acetate. Now in the book in Atlanta, he continued his work as a teacher.

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She started in Chicago and also the experiments he did himself. And so if, for example, on top of it, we can see some candlesticks and on the bottom would be some different would objects and would something he, he was always connected with because he was a carpenter and in Atlanta for example.

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Again, an exercise for his students was how to bring pieces of wood together. Here for example, they were neal together, but you can blew them or stick the different ways together though, again by idea of testing the material and the options. And finally, brendige also tried to make an own theory of design and also of baja.

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So he started writing, one of his Interesting articles was the legacy of the bow hose, also radical appeals. You recognize this article, and here we can see and read the sitting in you loud share steel chair in his house in Atlanta and this little the table, for example, is also still in family ownership.

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So what we tried to do with our book was just to show you and also the readers the story, how the young man from our 8, the came the processor in Atlanta. And we had a huge of material and we couldn't print everything in the book, or we couldn't show everything in the book.

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But as think it's now one are graphy, which will be The main thing for researching him. And then you have to go to different places to research the archive. So you have to go to Atlanta to all book to switzerland and, and, you know, but the book is maybe the 1st stamp or a bigger audience for henry nick and his yeah, impressive work he did for the design and design for me.

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Thank you. Thank you so much dr. coke neck that was bad. Has a great summary and I know people are going to have questions. So if you have questions, please put them in the chat. But I would like for to thank you for all of your research and all of your time for this.

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But I did want to know what, give me an example of a story that you came across, but that is not in the book. This is a good crash. Maybe I have to think a minute about maybe I ask you for another question. Ok. You went through your you went through the different countries and places that you went to find the archives and the letters and what was the most interesting thing you found that was unexpected.

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Me were about photography of the jin young though of the 1st wife of in brittany because she was completely unknown to it to the world and also to the bow house community and him. But in the he wasn't famous but But people knew that he was there, but virginia was completely unknown and under the radar.

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So founding these photography and talking also to the daughter it was the most for me it was the most important and also impressive moment. That's one of the parts of the book i just love. I love the section on virginia and her work and that kind of the weirdness of her her 1st marriage that you kind of capture within that section.

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But also I, what I'm like about your book is that you're able to bring these personal relationships combined with the professional relationship in and you, y'all did such detail work. You found that proverbial needle in a haystack. So the question here is how or what, which, which personal relationship do you think had the most influence on brendige?

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I think when I left them only notch, who was his teacher at the bow house in decimal and who invited him also to to become a teacher in Chicago and mahoney not for example, ask him as nick he finished the pre cause and then he had to decide which website he should enter and then she thought, I go to the woods.

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Sure. Because I know would was my material and then Well, holy nash, that's why what you know already this material. And this was a really important moment in the life, I think of him going to change the material and become a member of the metal workshop. And I see that it has pedagogy as well because he's always challenging his own students to work in a different material.

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And even today, and georgia Tech in the school of industrial design that legacy of challenging the students to work and maybe something they don't feel comfortable with. We saw it early on in on bread its own education. So when breanda came to Georgia Tech and you show that great photo of him and he is in what is, was the industrial design studio, which is the, the bottom floor of the east architecture building that was finished.

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Right? If he was coming to Georgia Tech, what you 1st noticed there is that it's all man. All of the students are met. And you referenced this in the book that when he came to Georgia Tech, women were not allowed until a few years later. So my question is does he came from the bow house, which was unusual that they let women come in and study?

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How do you think the present presence of the women at the ball? How bell house influences the philosophy and the success as well as the longevity of the bell house. But this is a good question. As being the mixture of both sex as much is really important to have new ideas and not only to be getting a group of man challenging with with each other.

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But I think the changing to the U. S. And also later to Atlanta to the South. So well, segregation is still or was still a topic and I think was this was really me. I don't know if it's was struggling to him, but this is the question, maybe for the children of him.

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But when you ask which topic we left out of the book, i think I wrote everything I knew and I should, I could tell the and there's nothing I left out. Ok. I just didn't know if you found anything that where you're like, wow, I didn't know this and I don't think anybody else needs to know this either.

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So after, when you, when he left germany and came to Chicago and then to Atlanta, he obviously carried about house with him. But when you came to Atlanta and you start looking at his writings and his designed philosophy, where do you see a point that diverges from about house and his teachings or writings or all design?

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This is also a good question. I think that he at the bar house, it was a free spirit. So try an error was always there and they tested and test the test. So then in Chicago and later also in Atlanta, he was also focused on a goal and to get to the final product.

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And he was more focused on the resolve this thing while experimenting at the bottom, it was more info. Okay, so it kind of shifted a little bit to the result versus the ideation phases. Yeah. What we have a question in the comment in question, in the chat from marsher cohen.

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Wonderful talk. I taught at the Atlanta college of art and got 3 foster. Then the dean was a friend of him. We had a conversation about the bio health education in color theory. I wonder if you came across any file related to his work on color, either at the bow house or later on again, thanks for this wonderful talk.

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So did you find anything about bring dex color theory philosophy? The things I know about his thinking about color is whether rather stories his students told us. For example, they told us that he preferred gray and other colors aren't to be there in the design. But Sometimes he changed his opinion and then he did drove green car.

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So the reason he said dream is for the nature, but I think the color was not in the, in his focus more the use of the objects and the sizes. And that fits perfectly for the or the function. So yeah. And when out row some our father took me and my sister to the she cabin museum of science in industry and explained how objects were made.

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I always assumed i could do whatever anyone else did. And I often saw the boys had more fun than what girls of that is. That's fantastic. Thank you so much for common, glenn. So now that you have studied In so much, do you feel like you know him?

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I think so. And I think he is during the bow house anniversary in 2019. So the 100th birthday of the ball house, a lot of research projects took place in gemini and a lot of projects recently researched also by how students which ran so important than than they expected to be.

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But in britain, it is one of the baja students who is important and I hope that this book and our project, our research gifts in this place, he earned his work and live So I, as you know, I did a little bit of investigation of them in the course of trying to get his book published by Georgia Tech, and I was amazed at how dedicated his students were to him and how dedicated he was to really good design, but teach the teaching of good design.

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And that he saw himself at the, I think, always as a designer, but in the end it was really when you saw it writing that would come through that he thought about it about design. But he thought about it in a way, how do we translate that to our students as so we saw on self as an educator and I think a designer equally toward the end of his life.

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So we have another question from jason, right. Jason is the communications director here at the library. You mentioned before that this project was largely about finding pieces of green decks life in several. There are several different places. Can you talk about some of the most surprising things you found in the archives of Georgia Tech?

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Most surprising thing, whereas, photography from marianna brand, for example. And a catalogue which is also in the exhibition from exhibition, which took place in $930.00. And these are objects which are not only which are also of higher price. So if you could sell them, they are really wealthy.

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And this was a huge surprise because the as fed in Atlanta is reading makes show. So you have papers with there's nothing written on and after you have a dentist bill and then you have the photo by money on a plans and then you have again it's sasha in a way.

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It's also a mess to get through all this stuff because I know that you have 35 boxes. I think this is a really, really Great or I huge material to go through. But sometimes you find this little pieces which are really resi and pressure or Yeah, really important for the story.

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Yes, we need to definitely get it all processed and organized. So another question is, how did the new bell house come to be located in Chicago? Well, this is a question i'd like to hand over to my not, and then maybe we can switch a little bit that she can answer the next questions.

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Hello noon in Chicago, the wealthy industrials and who invited the 1st of all the bills. And then later on last morning to create a new school for industrial design. And it was, I think, one of the most places of industries. So chicago became the cause of new balls in America.

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Thank you. So I'm going to nelson bracken asked the question, and I don't know if you happen to know this, dr. psalm, but if not, if someone is one of the guests in the nowhere one of the family members, i wonder who the architect was of his house in rob, well, the window wall looks interesting.

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That's the thing we don't know. Probably there are the family members will know better now And then. And that phrase asked, was it financially difficult to leave germany for America? Al, did he manage this? And what was the only reason that he wanted to was to follow his artist creativity?

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Or was he as well motive? By motivated by the vow house, immigrant immigrants? I think really both of the reasons and in brittany was on the left side. He was not in the part of the political party but, and you also left side of and against the nazis.

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And he couldn't stay in Switzerland because when the nazis account came to power and you enjoy the government throughout the drum and employees from switzerland. So we had was about to come back to germany, and yet the chance that you already married marriage, the American weiss, you married her in a native town, our ec and so we had to sort of re card all a little bit of part of green card and a better chance to haven't stopped in the U.

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S. And it was what biter group bills, and lots of money not who had compression that from the former boss in brendige was one of the most important bunch funds could be a teacher at the New boss at chicago. So, so it was a very great chance for him and a historic moment to be part of the exile boss.

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Thank you and I miss both. There have been a preliminary inventory now, the Georgia Tech brenda collection, and kurt henderson, who he has posted to finding aid in the chat. So another question was, did from gabriel barrick? Did his britain only work with wood and metal, or did he later you work in class?

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I'm to be honest. I'm not sure. I only know that lasso money knocked interest and it's cairo period. them made experiments At that time invented and solve the testing. And I think that was a live launch. I don't know if it's so american and she made the various post experiments this timing around those materials.

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And when they knew that, but the most material he used, i think it's measurable and what Thank you. We have a comment and a chat that said this is Bob fisher, his grandson. I remember going with him as a child to the lab department in the Department store, where he critique the design of the way out there for entertainment.

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He was very disparaging of frills and then call says the photo that it's not the photo in front of the Windows, it's mckinley road in Atlanta. He lives there from 959 into the late 1990. And then stacy grand daughter says, I don't know who the original architect of the house was in Atlanta, but it was redesigned by high houser, and she posted a lake to houser, walker.

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Yes. And I also grew, it's great to hear the stories from the family. And then dr. Goodness says he let as students work with plastics and I know that they're In the school of industrial design and the school of architecture. They did have plastic molding capabilities. So to go ahead, so at least we will learn some more details.

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Was a check today. Yes. So you feel like you've done all that you can do on, on brain deck, or you think there's some still more stones to turn to be honest, I think we did that. What we could do and now in my opinion, it's part of other places.

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atlanta did it as well. It was the exhibition that I'm really very grateful to the library and especially to ****, but I think the switzerland zurich put to a little bit more to investigate him to and remain place the ball house times and could do a little bit more as well to to read just cover him and his fascinating story Good.

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I think that what you've done, you get a great compilation really does lead to some other scholars to ask the more interesting questions. So since this project kind of has come to a stopping point in terms of your research to your writing for now, What are you to be working on now?

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And as you can see, I, I'm working on my charlotte at the moment. And they're both and thought, and I am besides that we are writing a book on modern art and call and get through to pose a couple who founded talk with him in haygood. And that's in West failure, germany in 92.

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And it's been one of the most important museums, early museums, modern art, and has been the most father museum of what I'm out in New York as well. I can't wait to see the results. And I'm now director of the line of finding a gallery and better book and line finding of of the process researching in that process.

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And just switching the person but not the feel It has it. So we've come. I think about the end, but I would like to give you an opportunity to either answer the questions that you thought I was going to ask or just make some closing comments. And we go make sure everybody read the chat because we've got some great more comments about from the family, the closing comments or question that you think that I should've asked.

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It's only can say it's really fascinating to get so many commands. Questions, memories on him. I hope very much that cast we probably you could archive the comments and memories as well. That will be a very fascinating addition to Yes, I think catherine said that when she was in school at the University of illinois study in industrial design, one of her professors had been a student of brain decks.

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And so that's pretty interesting. If they with norm mcfarlane and we'll get, we'll make sure we get you a copy of the chat so that you can have it for your records. Any last comments? Questions? What has happened in the South germany? Is there still still standing one last there's one last question down here.

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They started building is still very rather installed and it's one of it is a most estimating policy of humans vote. And there is a school today and the main part of the story to building and the museum today. Right. So the answer, I think, to the question that gwen just posed you, if we'd like more family stories, let us know and let me know.

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And so yes, when I think we would love some more family or you know, and it will be the days event happens, same, it will be recorded and archive and it'll be sent to all the attendees. So if you have specially to the family, if you have some more family members that were unable to join, you will be able to access today after the event.

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So at this time I want to thank dr. storm dr. cook. Nick, thank you for all of your work. I know this is about the last 4 or 5 years of your life and it does look like you have now a wonderful project in a new child. So congratulations on your child.

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And thank you so much for coming today. And thanks the hollow foundation again and catherine and kurt for all of your work, I'm going to turn it back over to catherine to close out the event. So thank you again. Thank you so much leslie. I think your honor.

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Thank you, gloria, for such a great event today, and thank you to everyone who joined us as leslie mentioned, you will be sending the recording of this to everyone who register through that bright. So if you have friends that are interested, you can forward that on to them.

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And leslie mentioned most of these people, but I want to make sure we think everyone who's been involved in this great project are curators, kirk henderson, and Dr. shah. Me gloria for glory. Dr. glory nick for such amazing research. The linda museum, the hollow foundation, the Georgia Tech college of design, and the school of industrial design.

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In particular, the family of former students of brain jack, who have so generously shared their stories before today. And then also today on the conflict general of germany, dr. Jennifer current for all of her health. And then finally the leadership of the Georgia Tech library. So thank you for joining.

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We will send this after it's archived in a few days that way it can be watch from many different countries have a good evening.