Thanks it's really been a pleasure to be here. Told several of you have a sixteen year old who is interested in engineering programs and we didn't tour engineering schools and we looked up jeering program on the Web you know trying a tech always came up on top. Is in place the next sun with is it Georgia Tech we didn't make it quite that or so but it's it's really an impressive place you guys are lucky to to really be able to call this your home. Of a little bit I saw this is really impressive so. All right so today I'd like to tell you about some relatively recent who are in the laboratory and maybe it's a little bit too dark my it's lights are not. OK good right and so. In the laboratory in really are our work is focused on mammalian North circuits focus on the cortex you know and as you as many of you know cortical circuits are part of cortex this parcel aided in into multiple. Functional regions. And. If excuse me one more request maybe you could just turn off the lights behind this lights just to enhance a contrast if possible wonderful that's good so cortex is postulated interests distinct distinct functions and if you kind of drill into cortical circuits you have complexity cell types that are connected in highly specific circuits and then of course you have complexity also on a measure of scale cortical regions are connected to each other to form a regional circuits and as you know action potentials represent information in the brain sambal so. Neurons that fire action potentials represent information in the brain and so we'd like to really understand in the laboratories how these will solve itself neurons action potentials and so most neurons really represent information what drives these representations of information on the one hand and then how does the animal actually use these representations for behavior would you dress most of these questions in behaving mice and more specifically we study circuit computations in this so much a sensory cortex and like. As you heard from Stanley it's laboratory work for example meaning in the context of risk of a so much a sensation and. So much a sensory cortex it's really all about fast times you think milli second time computation essentially signal processing from the sensory for periphery and over last five years and this would be really the this would be the focus of my talk we've really also looked at frontal cortex area. In particular an area called. Implemented slow times it's related to loosely speaking deliberation and short term memory motor planning things that happen all the times of second and one of the things that I'm really interested in. Something that we'd like to figure out over the next five years how with very similar kind of harks where some of kinds of neurons some of kind of by physics do you get actually slow times in these front of cortical areas and these very fast times it's in sensory areas and that's something that at the very end I'll show you some stuff hot off the press that might have some bearing on that OK So we talk really mostly about motor planning short term memory today in front of cortical areas so let me start by explaining what motor planning is and why you should care body is so as as you know many movements are. To wrap it the right to really be amenable to online correct send these movements a cycle physically experiments have shown in some sense preprogramed and really evidence for such a planning a motor planning process comes from behavioral experiments so when you give a subject time to plan movements of subsequent movements for example baseball. Faster and more accurate and people have shown this this goes back to the seventy's and eighty's mainly human cycle physics and it's also been done in non-human primates to some extent. So motor planning is therefore an important aspect of motor control any can perceive the movement by many seconds right for example during the planning and right up to a baseball pitch now second equally relevant is that more planning is also term memory you could think of it as a prospective short term memory that links past events and future movements so in this picture you have a picture that plants a picture instructed by a century sensory information from the capture the hand signals catchers and the hand signals of The Catcher in many settings of course. Elapsed between instruction. In the instruction motor plans that presumably stored over this time skids of seconds in the pitcher's brain somewhere nor representations in this brain bridging the time from the instruction when the hand signals to the movement hear the pitch or Right now let's go to neurobiology right so what is really more in the context of the brain well in the law up has been studied in the context of so-called delayed response tasks OK tacit which is sensory stimulus instructs an action but to the action is only executed after some memory peer. In the technical jargon of field delay Apoc is strong like you see here this is a really famous experiment is really the one of the first cognitive neuroscience experiment actually one of my favorite experiments in not just this you've been in earth science in general does from Everett from the seventy's and what they did is they instructed a monkey to either push or pull a lever but the monkey was supposed to execute the push pull movement only after a delay of popular six seconds and you can see something curious here and you can see perhaps the activity that is now referred to a sprat Atari activity which is in thought to be the neural correlate of motor planning this non seems to intice a pate the push movement instructed to push push this right here this neuron action potentials or spikes Spike rate is elevated long before the movement anticipating when this they're on actually shuts off. During the movement OK so nor on that anticipates that particular kind of woman this is specific to the movement because when the monkeys instructed to pull and it he pulls this on is actually Silence OK so it is a pain specific neuron movement and it's movements that the non cares about rather than instructions because when the monkeys instructed to pull about he pushes spiders elevated so it's related to the Future Movement OK to you rather than the past and structure. To predatory activity this normal carload of Mordor right is really activity that anticipates future movements often seconds or longer before the movement. Now in the brain as you know short term memory syndrome are represented by changes in Spike rates that can be maintained in the absence of sustained input over time skewed so. Seconds and preparatory activity. Is an example of such a memory craze right here is instruction preparatory activities maintain this is an example of a cellular memory trace and so for these reasons the mechanisms underlying motive in preparatory activity I think of a broad significance in brain research in F. received a lot of attention over the last forty years. So the kinds of questions that we want to ask in rodents what we can do more comprehensive Fanaa this is sort of the phenomenon more making this economics is how is predatory activity organized spatially and temporally is preparatory activity this stuff is actually causally related to future movements right or is it just at the phenomenon and perhaps most important for the purpose of my talk you know how do North circuits maintain preparatory activity and here the mystery is that neurons have time constant so many seconds this century memory less but the circuits here maintain memory of the stimulus for Motor plant over time skids of seconds tens of seconds this is an emergent phenomenon of cortical circuits How does that happen OK And by and but study motor planning in mice we can begin we can begin to address these kinds of questions. So we started by developing a delayed response to. Mice this is almost identical to the kinds of delayed response stars that have been studied in non-human primates for twenty thirty years or so here my it's perform a sensory discrimination an auditory attack the discrimination I want to talk about decision making all that kind of stuff that's interesting it's own right but the signal of their decision about the sensory system is by either leaking left or right to a target OK but they only make that decision known by looking left or right to a target. To delay a part that is imposed by the experiment that can last seconds this task is now pretty widely used in the field in this odd looks in a recording a part or so here you have a model performing the tasks this is actually tactile version of the task and the details so with sensory discrimination that don't really matter the pole comes within reach and one of the mice touch the pole with his whiskers and then dutifully sample the mouse holds its time before signaling its decision with scared direction licking and these are individual licks you these are trial it's arrayed in the vertical dimension time in the horizontal dimension so as behavior output OK we measure this skewed direction leaking and throughout the top Blue Ridge first right movements red to leftward movement OK. And behaviorally experiments like in previous experiments from non-human primates show that mice actually use the delay Apoc to. Plan precise and accurate movements is just wrong in one experiment here that if we increase. The mouse time to plan movements by lengthening the layabout the subsequent movements become faster the reaction time becomes shorter and also the movements become more accurate so this task is robust and quantitative it really provides a tool to dissect the neural mechanisms underlying motor planning short term memory knowledge in my eyes All right let's go to neurons now in mice OK So as in the tangent Everett's experiments memory related neural signals is now nor on record from the frontal part of the cortex called motor cortex I'll tell you a lot more about that that shows preparatory bonafide preparatory activity so here now you have a right. I think all of human have seen Ross applauds you saw no trial separate in the vertical time in the horizontal dimension each circuit you corresponds to an actual potential OK right for a trial left for trial does this when the on a move this is the memory business when the instruction decision making so to speak or albums and these are the spike rate that's corresponds to these rosters and I'll show you a lot about all of these spike rates and very relatively few of these rosters OK so the spike creates a extracted a simply just the rate of action potentials averaged across tried so if you put the purposes of the stock you can see that this neuron starts to supporting right become selected for right movements maintains the selectivity of park and shuts off in per movement period importantly as required for preparatory activity on trial it's when the elements instructed to move left but actually moves right the neuron becomes against selected So this is nor on that it dissipates specific movements rather than caring about the past and structure. So this stoats us really that we've developed a mouse system to study motor planning and short term memory so we're Can we take this as more planning and Predator have been studied for nearly forty years in non-human primates and I think what our studies in mice have provided is a complementary set of mechanistic insights and I give you some of the highlights of the last we've been working on this what about for five years. For us MI five here is to give you some of the highlights some publish stuff interspersed with unpublished stuff together with some things that are very much in very much early stages. OK so we started with local localizing preparatory activity and motor planning and I think this is really very. Important because I think localization is absolutely critical of both behavior essentially kind of a computation and a particular activity pattern for mechanistic analysis of these things you need to know where it is in the brain or how widely distributed OK And so we look like it's more of planning and predatory to do a small part of the motor cortex refer to a. Motor cortex who can so how do we do this the brain is a big place and so what we started off is by doing a loss of function experiment so the mouse brain accommodates about one hundred. Million neurons we think on the order of sixty or so brain areas we wanted to ask which brain regions are critical for planning and movement OK so which brain regions the critic. For the kind of behavior that I've shown you it with up to genetics you can now do this in a spatially and temporary precise manner and just one slight about math because this math that we use over and over again OK so it's going to be important. It's something called inhibition it's our way to inactivate small chunks of cortex we put channel drops in into Governor Jack neurons transgenic mice is relatively straightforward some of you know this very well then we can shine light onto small chunks of tissue like so Dr Lawrence coverage of neurons all our local OK and it's really the excited to the neurons that carry information out of the trunk of tissue excited to learn so silenced when these neurons inhibitor and so driven so we can with time scales of tens of many seconds with time precisions of tens of thousands of missing this take away. Millimeter skin chunks of tissue corresponding to individual brain areas in a highly reprehensible and reversible manner so the activation method said and it turns out that these transient local perturbations also very informative and a powerful tool to probe circuit mechanisms which shall become important data so we do this in a comprehensive way we. Activate one of fifty five cortical regions spanning most of the usual spot suspects that might be involved in motor planning including part of all parts of the motor cortex much the sensory cortex and the parietal cortex and other brain regions one braid brain region at the time and then look for when we silence that chunk of cortex during the delay. Which silence in which brain region might have an effect on future movements during the Perry movement period and it turns out that the experiment the result is relatively simple it turns out that in activating here the magenta region in this plot. During the delay and subsequently causes an see versus bias in movements and silencing any other cortical region is singly on combination has no effect and this really is a functional definition of error I'm. Sorry I'm supposed to stand here and point this of biology sort of there. The this is essentially a functional definition of. Motor cortex as the brain region at least in this task critical for motor pry into so now how does this now relate to prep atory activity the neuro carload of multiplying so we perform an experiment where we map neurotic to the T. now in. The motor cortex and also other regions with electrophysiology an imaging to ask how widely is. Quickly. Should probably. Kill the wife. So how widely distributed is preparatory activity how does it compare to the functional definition of in the context of motor planning so we can do now with new. Genetically encoded Propes you can go and you microscopes you can do large scale imaging you can image a large numbers of neurons simultaneously extract it to the patterns corresponding to individual neurons and then correlate the sixty patterns to behavior for example you can do similar things with X. a solo electrodes doesn't make as nice of a movie and then give you just one piece of data from the imaging and the electrophysiology is very similar So here we took that kind of data and. Plot it in terms of what the neurons Skoal to the not they're selected for movements of selected for the sensory stimulus and how they're spatially distributed here across the motor cortex and this is time in the time in the trial movement on set is at zero and you can see this perception decision making this flow of information from sensory information from the more. Pulse Syria areas to more. Area and then the emergence of movement selective activity here in this. Area mainly in the deep players I'm going to stop this right here so the earliest onset of movement related activity before the movement that is preparatory activity is really limited to a very similar region that overlaps the. Motor cortex so this is parsimonious decision of convergence year of being a place where preparatory activities Express and also the region were lots of functioning experiments perturb future movements and I think identifying is already mentioned the key brain regions is a critical step in mechanistic analysis so now let's perform a detailed analysis of preparatory to just show you one way we think about preparatory activity there so on the left is the neuron that you've seen earlier on the right for additional neurons Paris to miss time histograms of former answers to highlight kind of the diversity of stuff that you might see on one electrode in tuning the neurons so they're nonce that are selected for right work movements or left and there they come in about equal proportions on each side so that's why here in this schematic we've got blue triangles red triangles corresponding Lefferts selective neurons and they're kind of salt and pepper here in the Moreover you have neurons that are selective early that become selective hearing the sound. CALL instruction book when the sensory stimulus is there are others that maintain selectivity during the delay of clock yet others that seem to become selective. Yet are the neurons that are most selective in the Perry movement period perhaps consistent with driving even a more. Street motor centers now of course my ace used to hold an oral population for behavior not individual neurons right so how do we make sense of this complexity so and it turns out the dimensionality reduction methods really provide a remarkably simple picture of predator activity especially in the park and the relationship to behavior in particular during the delay at most neurons either ramp down through movement or ramp up to a movement and we will focus now on memory related activity popular record typically thirty nine Ronson Edom summiting is to be with. Silicon electrode this is now X. or so a recording so OK for most of what I say from now on is X. or so recordings imaging won't make another appearance and you can think of a tit T. of thirty neurons essentially corresponding to a thirty dimensional space where each dimension in this space corresponds to the firing rate of one neuron and then during behavior activity patterns correspond to project three So in this. Space and the trajectories for right movements and left movements are different on average because different neurons at different firing patterns are rich in this activity space and so we can define a coding direction as the direction that best separates dynamics in the. Space for right and left. Referred to this is the coding direction it's a simple discriminant analysis for the aficionados here and then we can project the activity to this coding direction that's shown right here again in this projection this is by construction the trajectory separate nicely during the delay at pop up to a movement OK And more importantly activity in this direction actually accounts for. Nearly fifty percent of the variance and it turns out it's all of the variance that is relevant at least to the direction of movement and to the timing of movement we think so the activity along the coding direction explains behavior OK Let me show that to you with an analysis of seeing the trial it's OK so here in the schematic now we have these average activity trajectories in the coding direction OK up to and off the delay on movement onset now the mouse of course has to use in the trials for behavior. And if if there is a relationship between. Activity these activities trajectories in this coding direction and behavior we expect the relationship between single try to project trees and behavior and the symmetry trajectories vary from truck to trial so for example if the trajectory location close to the onset of movement mightily for the direction of movement so here is a trajectory that's close to the average right trajectory a little bit beyond what we might expect that this corresponds to rightward movements with high probability footer objects we eat towards the left projects he's for right trajectories that move towards left trajectories or closer to left or directories maybe we see left with some probability and so on and so forth and conversely for left trajectory and this is exactly what we see in the data so if the trajectories in the civil trial are closer to the average right trajectory we get correct behavior movements with high probability conversely for leftward trots and as the trajectory C.E.Q. to the trajectories for the other movements errors creep in so that's pretty good evidence that a lot of activity actually is related to future movement that this is really causally related to future moon this is really a key area for motor planning but there is still a. Some possibilities that this area where we did this analysis might inherit these fluctuations from somewhere else might just sort of and it might not actually play causally. Role in movement so we thought why don't we just introduce perturbations and fluctuations directly into the network and then do the same kind of trial by trying to novices and we've done this experiment about half a dozen ways and the take home message is always the same just give you one experiment which I think is particularly. Illuminating here we tragically inactivate in such a manner that we completely obliterate preparatory activity on average Ok so the trajectories on single trial is just illustrated if some. For some right trajectories on a memory of what the trouble was and now meander randomly subsequent book in the coding direction and might equally likely end up here closer to the rightward movement trajectory or the leftward movement trajectory yet on a trial by trial manner we can still read our movement direction with pretty good reliability. So by the by analyzing the perturbations of the effects of perturbation both the normal dynamics and behavior we can show that I think preparatory activity. Instructs future movements. All right so let's now go to a more mechanistic analysis of all maintenance of preparatory activities so I was present for activity generated and maintained in actual neural circuits all of the answers so I'll just give you sort of an update of where we are what we've done and how we're thinking about the problem so we. Have discovered really by accident mechanisms underlying robustness in maintenance or preparatory activity and that's that's what I'd like to show you first and so we discovered that after large scale in activation of or activation of a Lem and I mean we can really silence one hemisphere of a limb transiently that preparatory activity or active it with China activity. In that activity and selectivity recover in detail over time scoots of hundreds of millions seconds and that's interesting experiment seems a little crude it's an interesting experiment because it really provides for new challenges for circuit moderates of predatory activity and short term memory so let me show you how this looks in detail so here is one trusty neuron here again neuron That's right what selective surrounds up to it's persistently active over time scales of a second or more and here is the inactivation experiment really silence it and all of its neighbors. Entire on one side activity levels go to zero as they should because of the silence after offset of silence activity recovers over time skids of hundred milliseconds advertised but not just activity recovers but selective if he recovers right on right for it movement the neuron becomes as active as it would have been in the absence of birth to be in the same on leftward movements some of these neuron and its neighbors maintain a memory of what its activity should be despite the massive disruption of network to and this behavior holds at the level populations is again the kind of dimensionality ruction Earlier know. That someone is recorder population along the. Morning direction the hear perturbation the selectivity completely collapses but then recovers over time scales of hundred many seconds and with this kind of her to be also the behavior recovers so how does that work well it. It turns out not surprisingly that the memory has to sit somewhere outs right another area has to communicate with the perturbed area and help the perturbed air recover and we did a search for these areas and it turns out it's the other side off in that So here is on one side and I'm on the other side in the two sites of the motor cortex eleven particular incredibly strongly connected through the corpus close and there's an anatomy experiment a trace it was injected right here in the set the axons project to the other side of the brain and a whole kind of whole model of those regions on the two sides are strongly interconnected so this is a candidate area that might help maintain motor preparation in the. During the perturbations and it turns out as I've shown you earlier that preparatory activity for rightward and leftward movements is on one side and it's also on the other side because of this is so when you perturb this side it could be that effective if he recovers through the other side and that's in fact what happens if we know. Both sides of the selectivity. So the key principles that underlie robustness of prefatory activity are really redundancy and modularity OK that's perhaps the more important point here the circuit consists of at least two more you see in this case the left molecule in the left hemisphere in the right hemisphere. So that when one molecule is perturbed the other. The perturbed. The recover and we refer to these as module it's because each module can maintain preparatory active it independently when the perturbed when the other module is perturbed OK so. Because each more you can maintain preparatory activity in the pen to mean redundancy because preparatory to is distributed across these two independent. And as engineers you should probably know that robustness in engineer IT systems right is often implemented through redundancy. And feedback so actually an important design principle underlying the Apollo mission here but separate story. Right so now each module persists in preparatory activity and we are currently exploring the mechanisms of how whole preparatory activities maintain individual molecules and this is ongoing work let me show that to you briefly. So. Here's the problem right you've got neurons in one side with different selectivity if you inject information into Iran briefly here different kinds of input say during the instruction and part in our behavior the information dissipates over time skids of milliseconds really limited by the membrane time constant but actually quite quite a bit faster because of active conduct so neurons so centrally it nicely. Ation unconnected neurons are essentially memory less in contrast preparatory activity can last for many seconds OK so now theorists have been aware of this problem since the days of Robinson in the eye movement. At least thirty years and have come up with many many models of how neurons might maintain selective persistent take to video of time skits or seconds for the purposes of all kinds of short memories and they really fall into four or five classes some little bit more exotic I've just shown three kind of network models in a cartoon fashion you could imagine that neurons are arranged in a sequential chain and hold memory in that one set of neurons excite another set of neurons so it's another set of neurons and so on so forth Mark Goldman has a nice model about that and we think the dynamics of neurons is not consistent in their response to put to be Asians is not consistent with this model and then there are two props more plausible model it's there both in the run of feedback dominated neural networks that are dominated by excited for networks excited for connections and yet ball in both cases in the integrated in the discrete attractive model of principles are similar the time constant in the neural networks are prolonged by heat back and so there's dissipation of through the membrane but then you know you get feedback from a neuron that has similar queuing to give you that kick back to keep you in that excited state and integrators are distinguished from attractors because they have a. Continuous set of stable state and they respond integrated manner to graded input OK there is this create attractors convert essentially continuous. Putin sustained discrete outputs here perhaps corresponding to the movement directions it turns out and one goal through all of the experiments that really are experiments point to this model the discrete attractor model that's underlying that in the mix of let me show you two pieces of evidence first the discrete attract a model really. Predicts a funneling off with to over time the delay Apoc right so you've got some input sometimes input is lower sometimes higher noise in the system right and the if it T. trajectories should converge to discrete and points also attract will fix points during. K. and that's in fact what we see in the data the set to fifty trajectories averaged in a particular way I can't tell you about the details but they seem to converge to discrete a separate and point during the delay in this is been noted by others OK perhaps and there are several explanation for this not all of the require to be discrete attractor perhaps a more incisive and stringent test again comes from these perturbation experiments OK And this experiment I like LOT OK I'll go through this in some detail so what you expect for these discrete attractors is if you push the system far but not far enough not across the Senshi the point that separates the two Attractors and points of fixed points. But also refer to this is a separate trips in the language of dynamic with systems some of you may be taking a course in that the tractor should recover to its normal and point if you push. The other hand the attractive cross the network across a separate trips you should recover to the other a tractor of course with an error now in behavior right and so this is what we did it so this is and when I said we this is really the ingenious work of. A guy who did this experiment despite my advice I didn't think this would work for various reasons as usual I was wrong but you know all of that stuff too so anyway so here are the trajectories under controlled conditions he devised supportive ation that the collapse of the selectivity is relatively little effect on mean firing rate this is sort of sucked away on some subtle point and some try it's the perch of. The correct trajectories recovered that produces correct behavior on other triads it's reject crease flip OK right where trajectory now locks in two snaps into the leftward trajectory and vice versa with an error trying exactly as predicted for discrete attract the moderates and I think this is the strongest experiment that we have that really points that discrete attracted to nomics underlies prefatory activity. And we have an idea of how the basic circuit motif looks like based on analysis of connectivity. And we think that neurons with similar selectivity in dynamics early that connect to each of the preferentially and recruit in addition in a rather to the FOS biking into neurons in addition to the. Promiscuous manner and it turns out that moderates off this tie it. The circuit motif actually produce a tractor going to mix without too much fine queuing of parameters. I'm going to skip this is just a some more details about the model and tell you a little bit about more localization I'm going to go through this very quickly because I wanted to show you the last bit which is just really more and. So I'm going to return now very quickly to the topic of globalization now in the context of regional circuits so so fire this big view of one brain region and it turns out that's by far not the whole story and it turns out that. And we were interested in this because again it's a question about mechanisms right most modern of. Preparatory activities short term memory really rely on excited Tory connections through the horizontal connections so localism K'naan cortical neurons make a lot of axons locally and people think well it's these connections right within a lamp for example that maintain memories and multiple lines of evidence from the lab in the kit that it. Plays a critical role in maintaining persistent activity and the experiment is very simple we looked at other areas that are strongly connected in a by interaction manner with. Which one of these might be. Critical for maintaining preparatory activity and turns out that the small strongly connected area of the cortical areas have no effect every showing you this from the other side of that right you can blow out one side of preparatory to the other side is maintained similar for primary motor cortex and some of the sensory cortex in contrast if you silence. That projects. This absolutely stunning effect on air mic to selectivity completely cortex becomes coma told specifically and the converse is also true if you silence a limb and record from fallenness it receives input from. Selective it T. and activity is lost in thought and so we think that each side of this module on each side that maintains preparatory activity really relies on feedback between and cortical. OK that's required to mean it and selectively having showing all the pieces of data this was actually published a couple months ago. All right let me briefly very very briefly summarize so we've identified the key neural circuits underlying motor preparation doing motor preparation preparatory activity conversions to and points. And actions the shin noise refers to this is essentially an initial condition for movement in a space and I think that's probably the right picture reaching the appropriate initial condition it's critical to produce fast and accurate movements and I think these experiments show this and preparatory activity is. These initial these Fix Points correspond to decease initial condition does correspond to discrete Attractors and Predator activities implemented in modular and redundant circuits All right so now so far models of preparatory activity are rhythmic in nature right so they're basically a first sort of pop and body minute hypothesis of how the dynamics might be generated these kinds of then it turns out that these kinds of network more Teves that are moderate relatively difficult to implement with actually biologically plausible neurons and I give you just one example. This is a core tool that I made this morning so it's a little rough but the problem is one of in addition and timescales are right so if you have a neuron that spikes and then. Evokes activity in inhibitory population the feedback inhibition comes in very quickly before the next excited Tory Spike is fired and that shuts off these networks and so modelers have a workaround and so what they do basically is they say well look that's just makes an optic time constants hundred milliseconds I don't know if these synoptic time constants but that bridge is right these the time scale it's a feedback unit so there are these crude has that are sort of hidden in the in the methods so so I think that the bio physics really matters and the cell types really matter and this is something that of course we can take seriously now because this is really the era of so types and. I think. And so we in a collaboration with the on brain in secure would have done for the last few years and dated all of the heavy lifting with respect to seeing with sequencing done. Essentially classification of types in motor cortex and what we find is I'm going to focus only on two clusters this is clustering of what we think there's about forty neuron types of extremely complicated we have a lot of work to do this is a lot of that stuff but on in the lab is informed by this data this is not clustering by gene expression right by transcript or makes I'm going to just focus on two clusters. Down here this corresponds to the major output neurons in layer five because I think they're critical. For maintaining predatory activity and movement initiation irrelevant to the story of maintaining persistent activity. These two clusters correspond to different projection classes and this is done by combining gene expression data with. Structural analysis and this is a data set from a shared project engineer. Mike McConnell was one of the key players of Post UK in the law. And he's a single neuron reconstructions for neurons over late so bodies are here and they fall into two classes there are neurons here the yellow and green project to the fallenness. The magenta and blue project to the medulla premotor centers that also control oral facial movements the that's that's really the premotor centers of control the tongue are critical for speaking and so on so forth so. It's corresponding to these G two gene expression classes and they overlap in other places like the superior curriculum. Now here are here they are so one project so the thought one projects the middle up and what is very exciting is that the. Projection from the Father from the cortex to the thoughtless projects to the fallen is essentially ignores coverage of neurons and the thought is not excite the lawmaker to cure nucleus neurons and this data from across. Northwestern University is a cartoon based on data. So this could be a specialisation for maintaining long time constants in frontal cortico circuits and this is what we're thinking about the problem now there's a cortico Talum aquatic loop that is excited Torrie only avoiding this problem of rapid excited sort of feedback that is a tendency. Persistent activity. There is a second specialization which is probably why it when we look through the gene expression data we find that the thought of us projecting neurons expressed at high levels and exotic and India receptor three A You know I used to work an M.B.A. receptor that never heard of this thing there are like five papers on it but it has incredibly interesting properties for the purposes of short term memory has a long open Time hundred thirty seconds or so and it lacks a magnesium BLOCK Does everyone know what I'm uneasy block is so in India receptors of voltage dependent that's why they're not really that useful for maintaining this persists and they to a T. and they're. Because of magnesium block these things lock them in easy and block so they're opening addresses glutamate binding and also they don't conduct so they don't presume we don't use an optic process of these so they're perfect in terms of dynamics and properties to maintain a long time scale activity it's in fact it is exactly the properties of the kind of receptor is that moderates have you for couple decades so those we don't know yet if they're even at synapses going to working model that these might be critical to maintain preparatory. But this is something in the age of crisper that we can find out but last piece of data. So we hypothesize and these guys then project two more centers would have that this loop is somehow critical for maintaining preparatory activity. This kind of branch to initiate movement movement period so we did some so type specific recordings in these two neuron types and this appears to be the case so what we. Doing is recording in a lemon and exciting these different neuron types by back firing that through either from the middle or the fallenness and then identifying neurons that project here or there. And when we now look at. The persistence of selective and thumb as projecting neurons we see that they become selective remarkably early maintain selective it up to the Perry movement period through their delay apocalypses so they so there's memory short term memory and thought of as projecting your own self as hypothesized not in middle of projecting your own Miller projecting neurons the actual very rapid changes in selective it after the go cue consistent with triggering movements and these don't show that projecting ones don't show that kind of attitude so we think that there is different output neurons and there are five here to be specialized for either maintaining motor plans and initiate movements respectively and so of course one of the key question that we're interested in is how this transformation from planning to movement initiations achieve this is one of the key question about how information is gated from one brain area to the other and were very much working on that in general I think in this circuit we now have the opportunity to link neural circuits to normal normal bio physics and to neural computation and behavior and we've sort of opened the black box right and we know the road and brain region so tide's how some of the dynamics relate to behavior we can measure a key state variables using imaging and. Neurophysiology and up to genetics allows us to shape state variables and with methods like crisper would be able to get at molecular mechanisms so we have. Work cut out for ourselves over the next few years and skip all of this and then just thank all of my collaborators and let me highlight a few folks in particular normally and. Have started this work with me and they're incredibly cool. Guys there are no off cave on he called my concern. Carrying the torch on words he cause on the job market he's absolutely brilliant OK this guy is also learning on the job market the sculls. Serato will take a while and then very valuable collaborators in matters of theory and data analysis. Druckman son Ramani the runs of fun to learn and other collaborators whose work I only was able to skim and thanks for your attention and I'll take questions if there are no. Thank. You. Yeah yeah Yeah absolutely so so this is critical right so in all of these tasks the dynamics of the activity to some extent reflects the dynamics and the and the and the dimensionality of the behaviors so the dimensionality is low because behavior is low so and we think that. Tractors are learned and that if we train additional endpoints into this we'll get additional tractors and this is the kind of thing that we're trying to that we're doing our side of the damage now T. we're not in general general be. As low dimensional so sorry I got Mouli has done some analysis in on the various data set including. Noise status at this is a reaching task and he's come to that conclusion. You know we have an intuition that that might be the case but so it has put more quantitative meat on this notion that you didn't mention ality in these in these modern dynamics through to reflect spent behavior. Yeah so that's a good that's so so whether or not you get discrete attractors that's a good question so this is something that is. So what we're what we're doing is training in additional targets and trying to see when are that that looks this is ongoing corresponds to additional discrete attractors I think really the question is what what what about short term memories that now require. You know require representational continues variable and essentially flexible. Use of that information like in a working memory task and that's also something we're interested in I would imagine. Tractor dynamics would not deal with that in a. Parsimonious way so yeah that would be an interesting point for comparison and you can you know perhaps use the same kind of unleashed the same kind of experimental arsenal to look at the underlying circuit. Implementation So we haven't done that yet young. One. Yeah. I don't know about the decision and stuff you know I don't really know I think I think I personally I like to talk about. Motor preparation and I think decision the variable are probably very closely linked to motor preparation and I don't know if a single experiment that is read was to the east to do this sort of a bigger picture I would get in huge lot of trouble in certain departments with that kind of statement. But so on spread the word. But you're bigger you're really a bigger question is a mechanistic want right so so we we you thinking about our NAND specifically And so these are recurrent neural networks and so we think you can train our ends to look like discrete attractors effectively or like integrators and in fact if you if you just impose this they tend to want to be integrators. And so it's kind of. And then others so so I think and then I think I think the principle turned out to be very similar. Although you don't have to go in and reverse engineer these things and you know. It can be complex and in and off itself of but so depending on what you train. So if you if you train them just to produce to fix points they're produced discrete attractors the So So I I think those are kind of Arar's us in some sense and the way. The details and how you treat at least in our experience and we're not as good at this is we don't understand these things as deeply as some others that you kind of you get what you train and so I I like this more this kind of I'll agree with make approach and then you know you just sort of go and sort of. Ask you know what is this dynamic not consistent with and that's that's you know if you go go from there. So that that's that's something we don't entirely know so there's a question of whether or not this area is is specific to oral facial movements in the context of motor planning and we we don't know the answer to that so there's just very little work that has gone into this kind of detail to really look for the relevant brain regions in unbiased manner and you know it's something that someone should really do in a reaching task for example or so. You know early we done some very preliminary stuff with kind of directional navigation were it looked like it did play a role but it's too early to tell. You I unfortunately don't know the answer. But I think we have to vacate the room is a writer who thinks.