great thank you guys so much for inviting me through this talk I'm really excited to be here and to share with you guys a little bit about the research that I'm very passionate about so the talk I'm about my research in general and then we'll take a really deep dive into the work that I have looking at work and family issues and how those affect our physiological health and physiological activity and then we'll finish up with some ideas that I have for kind of where I want to take this line of research so first a little bit about Who am I as a researcher I consider myself a working family researcher so that means that I study how people manage their working family responsibilities and I think a lot of people care about this we know in the scholarly literature there's been a lot of interest particularly in recent years on this topic we also know that kind of people everywhere care about how to balance work and family this is a common topic of conversation and people are often interested when I say that's that's kind of what I study we also see work family issues highlighted in the news particularly in high-profile business people and we know that workers are increasingly asking for better work/life balance from their organizations so organizations are starting to really care about this issue and then we see even on a national level right countries are being rated on how how well they address work family balance issues as an indicator of country success and well-being so in a lot of different levels we care about work and family and of course this is for really good reason we know that work family issues are important for our psychological health and well-being they affect things like how much we sleep and the kinds of foods that we eat we also have some emerging evidence including some of what I'll be presenting today that work family matters for our physiological health and well-being and then work and family are both social domains right so how we manage work and family affects our relationships with our supervisors and with our children so with that in mind my research really tries to help people lead healthy working family lives right so I have a couple of different domains that I study to meet this end the first is really research that kind of links work in family issues with health right and so by health I really do mean kind of broad health so psychological health physiological health health behaviors and I also study both acute and more chronic or long-term health outcomes in addition to just making those basic connections and why they occur I also look at how people can take control of their own work family management so what are strategies that we can use as an individual to more successfully navigate work and family so to that end I look at negotiation between couples meaningfulness in work and family and time allocation between work and family domains and then another thread that kind of underlies a lot of my research is giving a voice to underrepresented populations so for example I've done work on student workers shift workers single mothers looking at child outcomes and then looking at non-us contexts so to really try and kind of highlight population specific issues so most of what I'm going to be presenting today falls within this kind of first bubble here looking at work family and health and in particular we'll be diving into the work that I have that looks at physiological activity and physiological health now in order to answer this question of how does work affect our health I rely on the allostatic load model to guide my thinking so we'll kind of dig into that first so you can kind of get an idea of where I'm coming from the allostatic load model is a more modern theory of stress it basically suggests a pathway by which our everyday psychological experiences eventually manifest in long-term disease and illness so one of the cornerstones of the allostatic load model is this idea of a low stasis which essentially suggests that our body reacts to the environment right when we experience something we have a reaction and over time those reactions can accumulate and develop into allostatic load or wear and tear on the body brain that results from that Alice stasis process now there's a multi-step kind of model that explains this so what happens we first have some kind of stressor event and I'm an industrial organizational psychologist and so naturally this is usually something about work right so we might have workload we're gonna have time pressure let's just say you get in an argument with your boss right so we then react to that event so that might look like you getting angry or frustrated that might look like elevated blood pressure or heart rate or it might look like you reaching for a glass of wine at the end of the day when you go home right now let's say you keep getting in those arguments with your boss right so it starts occurring over and over again what we start to see is a lack of adaptation and recovery so you might still be thinking about that argument even when you're at home several hours later or you might have prolonged heart rate recovery such that it takes you several minutes hours to kind of physiologically calm down from that interaction or maybe you are consistently reaching for that glass of wine or to at the end of the day now again with repeated exposure we start to see kind of longer-term more kind of chronic outcomes so you see elevated immune biomarkers hypertension elevated cholesterol right so changes in your resting state and then of course this predisposes us to longer term disease and illness things like psychological disorders mortality cardiovascular disease that kind of thing so this is the process that I use to kind of frame my questions in this area and specifically a lot of my questions revolve around how and when working internal stressors are associated with physiological health so the studies that I'm going to present for you today the first looks at more long-term health outcomes so linking chronic work stressors to behavioral and metabolic health we're then going to take it in and start to look at more acute reaction so specifically looking at couple negotiations and how those elicit physiological and psychological responses and then will kind of take it to the field and look at how those work family conflicts change our physical and psychological activity throughout the day so the first study that I have for you is on challenge and hindrance stressors this is an archival data study where we use the Mitas to look at longer-term implications of work stress this is something that hopefully is nearing publication we have under third round of review at Journal occupational health psychology so the purpose of this was to really understand how chronic and challenge and root stressors are related to behavioral and metabolic health in the industrial organizational and occupational health literature we've over the years discovered many different kinds of workplace stressors right there's a lot of stuff that stresses us out so everything from an abusive boss to high workload to time pressure to may be bureaucratic red tape that may or not be provided by the IRB so these things they are generally considered toxic for our health and well-being right they're bad they make us frustrated and and they're associated with psychological strain but actually in early 2000s Kavanaugh and colleagues came out with a theory that says maybe all these work stressors are not necessarily the same thing and we might actually be able to categorize stressors into two groups there are challenges which are stressors that are stressful but at the same time they have a silver lining because they help us to achieve our goals and they might motivate us so these are things like time pressure or workload on the other hand we might have Hendren stressors so these are things again stressful to experience but they don't have a silver lining and in fact they just make it harder to accomplish our goals and so these are very kind of frustrating stressors things like maybe having an abusive supervisor or experiencing that bureaucratic red tape now when we look at outcomes typical outcomes associated with stressors things like job satisfaction burnout performance what we find is that those hindering stressors are associated just like we'd expect so the experience entrances you're less satisfied you perform worse and you're more burned-out than if you didn't have those dressers right but when we look at challenges we see a very different pattern such that they're positively associated with job satisfaction and performance and while they tend to also be positively associated with burnout those relationships are much weaker than what we would see with hindrance dressers so we looked at this and we noticed well but a lot of a lot of these studies are based on self-report psychological kinds of constructs especially when we're thinking about health and we know that health is multifaceted right it includes physiological and behavioral health as well so what we wanted to know is do these challenge hindrance distinctions generalize to other kinds of health outcomes in addition we saw that most of this research was cross-sectional self-report survey certainly there are methodological issues there that could be kind of influencing our conclusions and so we wanted to see do these kinds of relationships also hold over time so based on our allostatic load model because we have chronic stressors in this study we were looking at more chronic secondary mediators here specifically we focus on metabolic risk this is was for a couple of reasons one there's there's not a whole lot on physiology and workplace stressors from the IO literature but we do have suggest that metabolic struck metabolic the metabolic system is perhaps most consistently affected by workplace factors as opposed to things like the cardiovascular system or immune markers in addition we know that metabolic risk is really important right it's low it's linked to a lot of endpoints that we care about in our society things like cardiovascular disease and diabetes and so we wanted to address an outcome that had important practical meaning so we paired that with the challenge and hindrance stressor framework we predicted that both challenges and hindrances would be positively associated with metabolic risk but those relationships would be weaker when we're looking at challenges as compared to endurance stressors in addition we wanted to incorporate those primary mediators now because we're looking at more chronic exposure where operationally operationalizing these as kind of health habits right so do you regularly smoke your tendon your frequency of alcohol consumption and then your frequency of high-fat high food or high-fat high-sugar food consumption and again consistent with that challenge hindrance model we suggest that both of these are going to be associated with these kind of behavioral coping mechanisms but that those relationships would be stronger for hindrances compared to challenges and that then of course would be linked back to metabolic risk completing an indirect Association so we dug into the - dataset we used data from the second wave of Midas our sample was generally half male half female about middle-age mostly white well-educated in a variety of jobs the midis procedure starts off with a general survey phase so everyone gets a telephone survey and then a written survey this is where we got our measures of challenge and hindrance stressors and demographics then people had the option to opt into sub studies including the biomarker study so everyone in our study participated also in the biomarkers study between four and sixty two months after that initial general survey the biomarker study was a two-day one-night clinic visit so here participants had a physical they had you know a health health checklist they indicated their smoking alcohol consumption and high-risk eating habits and then they had indicators of metabolic risk measured so these were things like glucose cholesterol BMI kind of thing so we tested our hypothesis using a path analysis as you can see testing both direct and indirect associations between our stressors and metabolic risk factors I have the graph with all the numbers the numbers are small you probably don't want to see them but if you do I can show them to you later what's important is what we found right so we did indeed find that hindrances are relatively more detrimental than challenges so specifically hindrances were more strongly associated with unhealthy eating compared to challenges and hindrances were associated with smoking whereas hindrance or whereas challenges or not right and so this suggests that yes that those challenge hindrance dimensions do kind of generalize beyond just psychological health and well-being and they generalize over time we also saw that those health behaviors are really important for linking challenges and hindrances with metabolic risk so just the correlations were not significant generally between work stressors and metabolic risk but the indirect associations were so hindrances were associated with metabolic risk through unhealthy eating and challenges were actually associated with metabolic risk through alcohol consumption one of the things that we found we analyzed this model 10,000 different ways all of these 10,000 different ways high risk eating emerged as a really consistent robust mediator which suggests that high risk eating might be a key intervention factor right so when you think of foods that organizations might offer you might want to just stick with healthy foods similarly employees can take responsibility themselves and just kind of pack themselves healthy food ferb for lunch alternatively we can target at the source in terms of hindrance factors so reducing interruptions in the workplace or things like you know training your supervisors make sure they're nice to their employees so we don't trigger this process and then finally so one of the indirect associations that I mentioned that was actually countered our hypothesis was that challenges were more strongly associated with alcohol consumption right which was then associated with less metabolic risk actually so I'll just walk this through so you have a challenging day at work right then you're more likely to drink glass of wine and then you have better metabolic health so I like this I mean I think this is pretty cool so it suggested then yeah yeah so that's a good question it is more frequent alcohol consumption so it was number of days per week right it was like the number of servings per week essentially so how often are you consuming alcohol per week so it is not just yes/no it is a continuous scale hello so actually one caveat thank you one caveat so we tended to have the range of alcohol consumption in our sum and our sample was actually pretty small so it was mostly down on that lower end of the scale so I don't know that we can generalize to say at that upper end of the scale where you would see the same thing so we know alcohol is curvilinear Lee associated with metabolic risk so maybe maybe not quite that far yeah that's a good question we did run analyses controlling for socio-economic factors and everything still came in time pressure yeah no yeah so we did not look at interactive effects the correlation between the two is like 0.11 and that's pretty consistent there's like small positive correlation generally in other studies too so that's certainly possible although having one doesn't necessarily mean you have the other yeah yeah so we to the most people were within a year and we did do a lot of analysis around does that time lag matter how does that matter like we control for that if we will use it as a moderator and basically we found that it like whenever we put it in the model it was non significant yeah that's that's a good point yeah that's a good question I'm not sure we didn't look at that possibility it certainly could be that way and the measure doesn't capture like whether or not this was a social thing and I didn't try controlling for social support but maybe be interesting yeah yeah all right here's where I've gotta escape we're gonna look at my many many slides so yes we've got the measures right here so you can see here we've got three items for challenges so working intensively does your work demand a high level of skill or expertise how often you have to initiate things where as hindrances were more a lot of these were interpersonal issues right so I'm using sexual slurs or jokes being ignored being interrupted so they're very and we did a lot we did a lot of pry we have multiple pilot studies on kind of validating these measures and we did find that they're aligned with other measures of challenges and hindrances so we're pretty confident that these are solid yeah so so the challenge starts our framework there's challenge challenge entrance framework basically says those kinds of appraisals don't matter there are kind of objectively challenging things and objectively hindering things but there's been some research challenging that and looking at for example appraisals of those stressors and the results on that are kind of mixed some hindrances tend to be pretty consistently like hindrances some challenges are a little bit more wishy-washy for the reasons that you're mentioning yeah and we didn't assess perceptions here in our validation work we did and we found these were generally perceived as challenges versus dresser or hindrances but definitely be a factor yeah Samantha's study actually has a lot of getting at concepts of personal control it looks to me like you're challenged entrance items vary with respect to the degree of internal control of individuals yeah so you have powerful others those two the hindrances that are actively piling on adding to your woes harassing you whatever the challenge side you have a lot of parents control over how you were allocated in your work to get up to speed to meet the child yeah so are these effects significant control that's a good question so I did not control for locus of control I can tell you in developing the study we had other other items in here which we thought were representative of challenges but they were much more confounded with control exactly like you're mentioning and I think part of it is that that's part of what makes these challenges instead of hindrances right that you can do something to they're motivating for performance so I can tell you that with those more control items in there we found essentially the same pattern of results as we're finding here so I don't know how much of a difference it will necessarily make and maybe you know even controlling for that that might just explain why challenges are better like I don't know that unnecessarily undermine our conclusions here but rather kind of elaborate on why they might be coming out just not they're just more relaxed about not coping with hindrances uh so it's it's possible but I would think that because these really well so it's possible we actually have another another study that I'm not discussing that looks at sleep and the same like challenge hindrance with the Midas data set and I can tell you in those analyses we did control for personality and it didn't make a difference now that's not our same outcomes that we have here and so so it could possibly make a difference but honestly I think we're probably same find about the same thing it doesn't really matter all right let me move on but that's exciting that you guys are interested cool thanks hopefully I'll be ready for your public consumption soon all right okay so for this next study we kind of wanted to hone in a little bit more and look at more kind of acute reactions right so this is a couple on decision-making this is a lab based study that we're currently still running the money is about to run out so we will be done very soon but for now what I have for you are some preliminary analyses that I just presented last month at the academy of management so in moving to this study we're moving from focusing on kind of work and health to more of a focus on work family and health and in the work family literature we often study a concept called work-family conflict this basically happens when you have work stuff and you have family stuff and you can't always get everything done right they sometimes conflict with one another and so your work might make it difficult to do everything that you want to for your family or vice-versa so we have a lot of research on work-family conflict this concept was developed in the 80s it's one of the most popular concepts that we have we know work family conflict is associated with lots of stuff we care about working family success health behaviors psychological well-being and then to some extent physical and physiological health now my this research is done from a level space perspective and by that I mean we give people a scale and we say on a scale of one to five how much we're family conflict do you have right so really what we're getting out here are general perceptions of work family conflict so what I'm gonna argue and what these studies are going to demonstrate is that this is great rights great for establishing kind of basic relationships looking at between person's associations but we don't actually know what these measures are tapping into right because as work family a conflict occurs on a daily basis it's actually an episode right we have an event so you're at work and you receive a phone call from the school and now you have to deal with something you know maybe your child is sick and so you have to deal with that it is an event that has a start and an end and you have to work to resolve that event so what I'm going to argue in what these studies are going to demonstrate is that really an episodic focus kind of yields a lot more insight into the experience of that work family conflict and what is that like so that's we're going to focus on is episodes again digging into single experiences and this is great because we can get more at issues of causality we can understand the worker experience and we can understand how those episodes are nested within time and related to other time varying experiences so when we experience a work-family conflict episode I would argue there's usually a decision to be made right so if you get that phone call from your child's school you have to decide am I going to leave work and go take care of my child or am I going to try and work out some other situations so that I can keep working and somebody else takes care of what's going on there in addition a lot of these decisions are not made in isolation but with our partners right and so it's important to consider we're talking about work family as it is experience it's important to consider the individuals decision-making but also how they make those decisions with their partners so the purpose of this study was really to dig into that experience and understand what happens when couples negotiate or family decisions for the purpose of honing in on a specific population we are just looking at heterosexual couples without children here so decision-making work family decision-making specifically is a process where you're making a decision about work or family that affects the alternative domain so this looks much like that you know child example where you're working you receive a call from the school and you have to decide what are you going to do right this is thought to underlie many work-family conflict events so we can often think of work family conflict as a decision and we know there's not a whole lot of research on work-family conflict decision-making but we do know that there are a couple of different kinds of decisions that we might make so that child example it's an example of a daily decision - these are things that are more transient they kind of come and go we resolve them relatively quickly in contrast you might have anchoring decisions so these are very big work family decisions that kind of set the stage for all of those little decisions so for example where your spouse might apply to jobs and what kind of jobs you're going to take right those set the stage for your context managing work and family so when we started thinking about okay what are we going to expect during these decision-making episodes we've course turned the literature into theory and theory suggests that work family conflict is stressful right and this is for a couple different reasons it's not a pleasant thing right by definition it's a hindrance so you're thwarting performance either in the work and/or in the family domain they're considered to be an effortful to navigate so you have to think they might involve you know emotional labor they might involve you drawing upon social resources and they might be unexpected and social in nature which we know is important for eliciting physiological stress responses in addition we've gotten a lot of again between person's levels based research that says where family conflict perceptions are associated with things like anxiety depression stress so we suggested that okay based on this when couples are negotiating decisions we should see that's a little bit stressful right so maybe we see elevated heart rate we see steady or heart beat so lower heart rate variability and we see elevated anxiety and threat in addition we wanted to look again at this as as a couple this is one of the very few studies to consider decision-making within the couple context and so an interesting question is you know do members of the couple experienced that decision similarly right or are there perhaps differences such that men and women are reacting to these discussions differently and we know that there are differences in both work and family by sex right so women tend to do more at home and men tend to be more objectively successful in their careers so maybe it's something about this negotiation process it's experienced differently between men and women so we decided to compare and we thought well maybe because women feel more pressure to adhere to gender norms it's going to be a stressful experience for them or at least more stressful than their male peers so we expect that women will have higher cardiovascular and psychological strain during those decisions we brought childless committed couples into our lab they filled out a pre lab survey we then hooked them up to all kinds of stuff the EKG skin conductance they got sociometric badges they're being videotaped it's a very involved lab setup and we then take a baseline measure where they have just a discussion with the researcher to kind of get baseline measures of cardiovascular activity and activity with those sociometric badges and then they negotiate three different scenarios so a daily decision and anchoring decision and then a decision that they come up with so we instruct them to come up with something that's important to their everyday lives maybe something they frequently negotiate or something that they know they're going to have to negotiate in the near future just to get a decision that's definitely kind of tailored to them and then of course their debriefing compensated so a couple examples of our scenarios that we give them this top left one is an anchoring decision so baby definitely anchoring sets the stage for work family decisions in the future as compared to caring for an aging family member where you might have to provide a little bit of care in the coming months to help your aging - broke her hip so Metro's that I'm going to present here our heart rate and the root mean squared standard deviation between heart beats heart rate variability essentially these are all scored and independently audited and then we have state anxiety and threat after each scenario so we found the opposite of our hypothesis so you see the baseline here has higher we have higher average heart rate during baseline sessions compared to anchoring daily or couple decisions and those couple generated decisions in fact had the lowest heart rate on average compared the other sessions when we look at heart rate variability we similarly see the opposite pattern so when couples are negotiating that couple generated decision we see higher heart rate variability compared to a baseline session when we look at state anxiety we do see similarly that couple decision comes comes out again so people are more anxious when they're negotiating the couple generated decision compared to the other decisions and then we did just compare to see are these statistically significant levels and each of them are and similarly we see threat is highest for that couple generated decision so thankfully some consistencies although not all in the direction we expected there was no effect of sex on heart rate and heart rate variability but there was a main effect of sex on anxiety so women were more anxious across these different negotiation scenarios compared to their male partners the effect was not significant for threat but running in the same direction so some kind of takeaways here we did not see the expected kind of fight-or-flight reaction while covers are negotiating decisions I think what we saw is more indicative of self-regulation and this is in combination with those threatened anxiety reactions right so they report feeling threatened or anxious and that's at the same time they have lower heart rate variability or higher heart rate variability I'm sorry which indicates that they're feeling emotions and maybe effort fully regulating those while they're negotiating decisions the fact that we found the strongest results for that couple generated scenario also has important methodological implications so I think this was the obviously the most realistic and relevant scenario and it suggests that when we do vignettes in the lab especially around work family issues which many decision-making studies have and we probably want to use vignettes that maybe are generated by the couple right and that are relevant for the couple and if we use kind of vignettes that we made we might not be getting the same kinds of reactions we also found that females experience more negative effect again maybe this is contributing to why we see male type decisions and then there's a lot more to explore here we've got a lot of data so I'm excited to dig in yeah yeah so are what the couples generate daily versus anchoring we could so I haven't I haven't dug into that qualitative data at all we have we've got their responses we've got what they came up with their person for their scenario and certainly we could do that to compare daily and anchoring that they came up with yeah so they had two minutes to write down their own individual response and then they had eight minutes to discuss and arrive up at an agreed upon solution we did a lot of piloting around the timing and that tended to be good most couples are done before they eight minutes very rarely do we like run up against the time because we find ways to sort of balance things yeah so if yep save both members of the couple at work and the alarm goes off and says your water heaters exploded yeah I totally agree with you and actually there is there so there are a few studies on this one is an experience sampling study and it does suggest that people flip so like when you prioritize work over family the next time you'll prioritize family / work and it wasn't a couple study but that could potentially be because people are negotiating with their partner to change right who takes care of what yeah it would be really interesting to look at this to take this more to inexperience family context and look at it over time as it unfolds Anker were two so they're randomized there were two potential daily ones and two potential anchoring ones the other anchoring one was a new job so new job opportunity but you have to move what are you guys going to do and the other daily one was date night but it was also work-related so it was like you had this special date night planned but surprise work call and you have this like thing you have to do what are you gonna do so those were a little bit more work focused potentially yeah we there is certainly so there's certainly some generalizability issues here right in terms of saying that this is what actually happens in real life I'm not sure we probably have some selection bias in here because couples are really going to fight are probably not gonna be so much in here good IRB would not be pleased but yeah that's definitely a potential issue and maybe why we see eight minute resolution times okay so I'm gonna move on to the last study but we can talk more about this if you guys want and so this last study very near and dear to my heart is my dissertation and I loved my dissertation still even years later so this what I'm presenting for you today is material that it were splitting into two different studies to the first actually as a second round under review Journal of applied psychology and then the second my wonderful student Kate is helping me to publish right now so the purpose of this was really to understand when we're family conflicts occur and what happens during and after that work family conflict so it's similarly taking the last question we looked at but studying it in the field right using an experience sampling methodology so the first question that I wanted to tackle because we're studying work family conflicts in the wild I wanted to see if we can predict when these things happen right and so to do that I used border and boundary theory which basically suggests that we have work stuff and we have family stuff and those are separated by time and space boundaries right so for example you might mostly work during the day between the hours of 9:00 and 5:00 and maybe you do most of your work at home and similarly we do family stuff in certain times at certain places now on a daily basis we often transition in between those roles so for example I might leave here walk home transition into my family role so this process is considered to be effortful right and that it involves time it might involve physical activity it might involve cognitively switching emotionally switching and so this is suppose to be an effortful process and sometimes we don't make it all the way right so maybe you're at home saying hello to your loving spouse and you're trying to listen to them but you just can't stop thinking about reviewer 2 then annoying comment that they left on my review and so as a result now you're not paying attention to your spouse and what happens if you have a work-family conflict spouse is like you're not paying attention to me I know you're not focusing and so complicated but you're not meeting your family responsibilities because you're distracted by work so I predicted based on this theory that we're gonna see work family conflicts when people transition so when people report trance or transitioning in terms of space between work and home spaces and when people tasks switch or switch time between work and family I also for this study honed in on standard our workers and standard our workers tend to have an ebb and flow to their week that's pretty regular so should you go to work in the morning you leave in the afternoon you start the workweek on Mondays and you end the workweek on Fridays so I predict that these are kind of larger kind of more daily weekly rhythm transition times where we're gonna again be likely to see conflict events now in addition to predicting that onset I wanted to look at again acute reactivity surely we will see that work family conflict is stressful at some point and so I again predicted when we have a work family conflict we're going to see an increase in heart rate and blood pressure as well as negative effect and fatigue and because again we're looking at these in the wild I wanted to look at not only synchronous reactivity to those episodes but also change over time after those episodes so how does that affect you the rest of the day there are a couple of patterns that we might expect we might expect that you react and then just kind of recover throughout the rest of the day we might expect that you react and then stay elevated over time or we might expect that you have no response right I didn't formally hypothesizes because the the interpretation is a little bit ambiguous but I considered it and when interpreting my results in addition we might see accumulation effect so maybe if you just have one we're family in conflict it's not a big deal I can handle that nice you know partner gets a little bit mad at me because I'm distracted but it's no big deal we move on like ten minutes later but what then happens if it happens again yeah you know 30 minutes later and then maybe again later that night and then maybe again or again right and so at this point you've got a lot of work family conflict happening all within a fairly short amount of time so does this accumulation of work-family conflict events change our again negative effect fatigue and heart rate and blood pressure throughout the day so to do this I used an experience sampling methodology I recruited participants from a local community through variety of flyering methods we met with everyone in person for a 1-hour baseline session where they filled out demographics they then were trained on a little blood pressure heart rate ambulatory monitor and we trained them on the study procedures the next Monday or Wednesday randomly assigned they began the experience sampling study so for the first three days they filled out a survey every two hours starting at 8 a.m. and ending at 10 p.m. so this allowed us to get at those nice kind of change trajectories throughout the day and because we didn't want to burn people out we just had one survey per day at the end of the day for the last four days of the week so this allowed us to capture when work family conflicts are happening throughout an entire week but also allowed us to get those more fine-grained change analyses for the first few days so fortunately for me we had a pretty good compliance so half of my vitamins completed absolutely everything perfectly most people completed most stuff and then compliance across the days again generally pretty good so no steep drop-offs there we do have a multi-level model here so as in the previous study we use multi-level modeling accounting for three levels of nested data time points within days within individuals so what we see here is essentially the results of a multi-level logistic we're rushon found support for my hypothesis yeah so when people transitioned between work and family tasks they were between seven and eight times more likely to also report a work-family conflict event similarly when they transition between work and family locations they were between two and four times more likely to experience a work-family conflict event compared to non transition times we also saw partial support for those morning and afternoon transitions and interestingly this was in a specific direction so it mattered which way you were transitioning so in the morning as you're transitioning into work you're more likely to experience a family to work conflict this makes sense family's interfering with your ability to start working and similarly in the afternoon we see the opposite trend so as you're trying to transition into the family we see increased likelihood of worked family conflict and then there was no significant difference for Monday Monday versus other days or Friday versus other days possibly it could happen because you might have like telecommuting for example right where you're working in the home domain yeah possibly okay in the interest of time I'm gonna skip these very specific things we only found one significant pattern that was consistent with my hypotheses that was this beautiful pattern where when we're family complet happens we see increased fatigue that then kind of recovers and then you see goes along its merry way just increasing at a linear rate that would be expected throughout the day so most of the reactivity and recovery hypotheses did not come out as expected instead we saw a lot with accumulation so it's not one more family conflict event but when you experience multiple that we start seeing changes in a psychological strain and systolic blood pressure in particular so in general we did see that work-family conflict occurs during transitions not a whole lot of support for cardiovascular wreck reactivity and not a whole lot of support for this idea of one work-family conflict event as eliciting kind of the traditional stress reaction right instead what we see is that as work-family conflict events accumulate we start to see changes in psychological and physiological strain it's a good question so we had a hundred and fourteen work two family conflicts and 124 family to work conflicts yeah like two thousand three hundred something like 36 was the number of within person observations so 106 people reported like two thousand some odd observations of those 114 were work to family conflict experiences and 124 were family to work complex experiences yeah and that's actually one of the things that we're finding in the episodic literature right this is I think probably the fifth or sixth study to try and look at this in an experience sampling context and what we see is that they're really not that common right you may be experience a couple week if that it's certainly less common than you would have thought just offhandedly beforehand given the way we talk about them in the literature based on those more levels based measures yeah yeah that's a great question so I did not I wanted to look at duration but the measurement would have just been horrendous so I did not tackle duration I did however tackle intensity so for every work-family conflict event people then reported more information about their conflict so I specifically had them report how distressing is this event how much did it interfere with your plans how much did it interfere with your goals and then I also have some data on like social others involved so this is essentially the scale points right from from very slightly or not at all to extremely and what you can see here across the events is that they're generally not super distressing right so even when we look directly at those appraisals people are not really appraising these as stressful yeah yeah that's yeah that's it so I kind of we got at that so um this was a checklist of work-family conflict events based on other qualitative work family conflict events work we did also though measure chronic work family conflict and I did run some analyses looking at you know controlling for work-family conflict chronic conflict or using that as a moderator so do we see stronger reactions when people are experiencing more chronic conflict or is it an adaptive thing where they actually experience weaker reactions it didn't actually nothing really came out there yeah did you guys come across any like sort of interactive like compounding effect like in one day say like in the morning when you transition to from family to work you experience what family conflicts and then maybe at work you know or then at work you know you get that call and kid is sick you need to pick them up whatever and then does the occurrence of maybe more conflicts throughout the day sort of like make the later ones yeah so the accumulation analyses were trying to get at that right and looking at as the number increases throughout the day do we see changes I did not look to see if like so I dug into this a little bit and that if people reported multiple conflicts within the last two hours I looked at that again as like a predictor or an interaction with you know how stressful this is and again I didn't really find much there yeah yeah it's a tipping point yeah yeah so actually at so I don't know how to test that and I think we would need a little bit more digging in at perhaps the couple level actually because I think a lot of these conflicts there is like a set routine right like a like a like a troubleshooting framework that couples negotiate and that you follow so this conflict occurs well I already know what to do because we've had this conflict and so I'm gonna follow my set troubleshooting routine and so perhaps it's when that routine gets disrupted that then we see kind of more extreme conflict events I agree I don't know how to quite capture that but I think it would be really interesting it's possible procedure yeah get it to you yeah so we talked a lot a lot about the design and this is actually we submitted something to sigh up on like best practices and doing this kind of work and I think so does to say one of the other presentations is talking about this specific issue the reason that we ended up going with the time design is because with working on conflict you're probably not going to report it in the middle of your conflict right so either way it would be retrospective and one of the objectives here too you know I kind of thought that complex were happening a little bit more often than we were seeing in previous literature and I did find a little bit higher frequencies here and so I wanted to I wanted to make sure that everyone was reporting everything that was happening although I think with an event-based simple you're you're right you would get at more extreme conflicts that people like really recognize like oh this was terrible and I spent like you know an hour trying to figure out what to do here and it was very stressful I think you would get more of those events with an event based sampling yeah that's true but I think if it was I think to Howard's point you're trying to get it more kind of emotional episodes or those kind of hired like the tipping point episodes and so if that's what you're trying to capture I think that that would be appropriate you would probably also capture it using this design but then you would also capture all of these other conflicts that are like not big deals so I think it would depend on your purpose right if you're trying to get every conflict or just kind of the big stuff there has a real specific cost associated with it if you're a salary worker or if you've got personal leave time it's a very good it's an inconvenience sometimes or it just means you have to work more you know on the weekend or whatever it gets you know or work harder but it's very different for people who literally have to take time off of work to handle a conflict or if it's an emotional conflict that's that means they've got a timeshare a multitask that conflict I'm not sure I agree with you I agree to you so much this is actually where a lot of the work that I did in my Master's was trying to focus on low-income workers and trying to see I actually my thesis was a commencer ability test to see do these measures actually work the same in low-income shift worker populations as when we use them in these more traditional populations we found the answer was yes but I think that's because the levels based measures are so general same thing here I think these measures are so general that they they can be used to capture those what we're missing are those intricacies that you're discussing on what factors into that decision right what does that actually look like and I think that that would be an interesting next step one of the things I'd really like to do is look at how for example money influences our work family decision-making and that's going to be very different for a shift worker compared to a salaried worker so I wholeheartedly agree with you and I think that's a step that we need to take this yeah yeah so that's a good that's a very good point these are mostly kind of theoretically focused what is actually happening I think that they help to set the foundation for theoretical implications so you know if we are seeing that one work-family conflict event is like not such a big deal whereas multiple accumulated events are a big deal then that would suggest things like recovery are really important right for managing working families so stopping that accumulation process similarly understanding when work family conflicts occur is important for designing interventions right so it's a very basic question but then it helps us to understand well you know is flex time really effective if people are still making transitions right or or maybe flex place is more effective because then you're not really location switching between work and family so I think that there are practical implications but perhaps that this is one step away from more directly making that connection but it does help to set the foundation that's an option I don't know I recommend that option yeah stresses that most of us could begin to comprehend yeah that's a that is the million-dollar question I will get back to ya the way work is I mean for some people their their work is so stressful that they don't have the luxury even worried yeah well more difficult to I would say they're more difficult to access yeah some of it yeah so there are there I could built the frequencies most of these conflicts are more time-based conflicts but some of them are psychological complex an individual difference level the tendency to ruminate and then see if at level one yeah yeah I think that would be really interesting and certainly pulling an individual one of the comments that we got when trying to publish it that was looking at this issue of like not everybody is the same so what kind of individual difference factors might predict variance in how people are reacting to conflict events so I do think that's an important future step to take this right now that we've kind of established a baseline yeah yeah yeah yeah so so kind of two comments on that one is that there is so an emerging construct is tell oppressor and so the extent that you feel pressure to constantly be on the job over your phone over the computer even when you're at home so that is something that researchers are starting to look at and but then to actually your point kind of highlights something that I recently so we're writing a grant to study just work we're family issues and single mothers particularly around how can we possibly build resilience through everyday recovery behaviors and one of the things that you look to in the literature is you can't find anyone saying that things are more stressful for like in terms of work family so you can't find anything that says you know single mothers have more work family conflict than not single mothers and I think that's because of the issues that we raise right so it depends largely on the occupational context it depends on different aspects of your family context and so it's difficult to kind of make blanket statements like certain populations are more stressed than other populations because really there's a lot that goes into that yeah not here no I would consider like work family conflict by definition is a hindrance because your wording performance in one domain so you're hindering yourself so are you by definition it's a hindrance but I have not I have now run the validation work to show that school play or our senior infants first steps does this all seem like challenge stressors to me as opposed a hindrance stress mmm time prize well but see then you're focusing on the time pressure you're taking on the you're focusing on the taking on extra responsibilities so it's not the work family conflict that you're talking about it's the challenge interesting potentially all right so I think we're actually out of time but thank you everyone this was wonderful