Thank you very much. I'm glad to be here as I said before and if you could hear me. I laced out from this. Let me know if you can't read. I'll get back to. I thought I would just do a reading number of different I was not going to be too sure along the absolute longest will be the first one here today which is a story that I wrote recently not too terribly long ago to our race who is a writer by merely a sure they should lose his words that my first guest. He was living in Austin Texas during all of our children drove out there and he put us up one night and while we were about that particular get together is there are such a thing that time did play sister for a while and Steven asked you know I asked him what he'd like to do is they like to play chess. So it's like to play. He said sure. J.D. Stephen See this is what I need you. Yeah we'll show you the spot. Yes I had to get back into Dad So what he did I seen a J.D. comic book fan so that they're in our policy time with George and we had to build a bed which had underneath it three huge drawers which would roll out the slightest. And he filled these up with comic books and that was what made his analysis so I enjoy a little for him. And if you did see the light long wanted to collaborate on a story we had done probably two or three or four different attempts some of which will none of which were very well at all and Stephen is I don't think I betrayed him at all your status as so. A little bit of this life for a lot. Heriot this is a crush and when you're wrong. He is a good guy and you turns out stories right or left Washington last night when he doesn't write he really doesn't like to sell out reading old magazines or Marcel Proust or that sense of whiskey that is out but he says he sees it in the store and he said I don't know exactly what to do with it as I don't feel comfortable writing the little sections of the story particularly because I want my way here to be a discussion with a priest is going to do what did you do we differ from yours and he said the only person I can think of that I want to write a story with might be able to put words in the priest would sound like you know what it is what. Anyway I sat down with with the materials that he said the Unlike many of the materials are indeed his I don't want to make it sound like a real story by myself because I would never really without him destroy the story. But what I wanted to do was point out that can you hear me. Can you still hear me a lot of the point of the story was posted last week on Tour dot com And that's one of the reasons I'm not read the whole thing but I was really taken by the illustration that they read with the site and you can see this terribly well as I hold it up so I thought it was just passed around. Take a look at but hoping that after you hear this really sure at least go on line. So you can Google toward our city was their story. All right or I don't know you are a lot of talk like that or I'm going to pass this right. There's an illustration by your car's whose name was John Foster when I felt that the picture that you can blow up the heart out. I printed out and I still think it's lovely that it lost a little bit of this of the being blown up printing out but I still want to take a look at it. So I'm going to start it over here and take a look at it you'll notice it is a man running down the street in us in a Caribbean city and his shout of his house on the law and as the shout of the still really interesting. I knew what I was going to do was to just look around the summary of the first part of the story and read the section where the priest is talking to me bearer whose name is Bill or Crossfield Loreal as he will you know Gloria. This is fair enough if you don't get it you can do what I thought I would do is give you what leads up to to the incident where we're Don't hold your oscillatory on who is the first character in the story. I think might be an analogue to some extent of Stephen himself but I don't think Steven would wait for the good that talks to the priest after he has talked to the doctor after his housekeeper whose name is out of line has approached both of these they're told that don't cross Hugo is in her view suicide stream develop she's afraid he's going to do something so and she comes to him and gives him a locket and the locket has one belongs to her late husband's mother and precious to her that he was a fisherman. She tells him who lives this story inside the locket cell is a fire giant squid. You know where the Happy Meals of hate. Got the story and then. Except in the one we had a kind of mix up. He described to Stephen as a whole wonderful process that we magic realism and H.P. Lovecraft So that was I suppose where this with the other point and that is for this story and I think Stephen got this from a story by GOT REAL Garcia Marquez called a very old man with enormous when you know you know that story. OK. One of the lines that story is simply about a man who was through the absolutely now five of the stars and I always thought it was interesting to take a line from a story by another writer and to turn that throwaway line into a full story rather Silverberg did this years and years ago in a story called to see the visible man he had taken a line from a story by Jorge Luis Borges I think it was the library. They had a lot. Not sure but that was why and wish for a says in a throwaway line one year I was cleared this is the recall that are alive. One of the stories but then Robert Silverberg wrote the story to see the of this will man out of that single line. He had picked out of the story by four days so I think Stephen was attempting to do something quite similar to that and choosing the single line of the story by Garcia Marquez turning good the story telling what I'll just read the first opening paragraphs in the old move on. Read the section in which the breeze. Let me describe the stock of the two bed that he talks with the only two that really stands in the time with all that he won't see them together. He has to see them separately. One of them is Dr Ezekiel Vega who is the score. He loves the zip codes and does care about him but you get the sense that he would like to exploit a little bit too because Bill Russell was somebody that was required to him and he's always trying to involve him in some business proposition or other one of which includes the creation of research for the creation of bubble universes are they the other band is the priest. The result of his Arias who is a vigorous young priest who sees the man as Hello straight. Who wants to help. Let me just read the opening paragraphs and then go on to the section where they recently saw that all saw the city quiets down by stealing my vision illustration by John Foster as though it was a friend of mine from Rhode Island is that right I did not know that I forgot to tell you the other night when you mentioned is really like the media losing radar. That's one of the hurricanes the number chervil Razia Loreal nor did rumors of the handling government assault on the barbarous drug cartel in the islands and here your brain for violence it's the adult vilified they said get out of the capital whether for good or work or in protest of the scene taxes or other regressive policies cost don't harass you are not one innocent sleep nor did he. Quail before falling at least values of the Caribbean or anywhere else. Worldwide not in the bars of his own mortality and clued in through the ages of the and cosseted explorers of the blue did almost everything they will Boreal in his on your stay or will discover that you all are off to go. There's no ladies did not spring for the Heritage disease the collapse of the planting crops or the summary execution of the local opposition. Instead this film from a pathological obsession with the barrel nightly clash of the stars talks a little bit here about how is that break loose. For years at his house which is near the day they hire a set on this little island called the slow market and he tells he tells A.B.C. take tried to. Yes So I don't talk or story. He did not know this is the world or is random. You know these the only hated the four saw the ladder to the Dust Bowl with your personal directed process built. I can't bear to rely on one hand there are no relish my life. The Still Of The Stars. There are no they really are so candid with just the advantages and disadvantages of killing itself. Most likely with dread lawyers and shock which calls out the result or not or does have a way. All right let me go on to simply say that he has spoken with a lot of his housekeeper and she tells him that she is very concerned about you know she shows him the slot in which she was present to give her she thinks it might help them overcome and then she asked him. She says Take my hands and write loudly for Christ Jesus bring joy you feel the rejected post. She would do the greater they were told if you count of arsenic somewhere in season just chickpeas with not really of this sadness work quickly the silly the Titian or no. Then you would die. The police would arrest me I would go to prison for the very thing I need my labor and my steadfastness to further the see how much the way you all are Aussie alright you of the executives it's all you have you believe that and so if you're wrong you have no power to solve your sin. I would put my soul in mortal peril of vital days she wiped her eyes with the tissue and stare says he wished the dispatcher would last this that just bring that out in the boxes he said reaching over and turning up the gravel see the house you know as you will then she calls both the doctor and priest and they arrive at the same time which is on fortune because he won't see the same time. So Dr uses his status as a doctor position to go first see in the doctor then I'll talk to the doctor tries to get into the last couple of projects to make some money the way this has of course he rejects I know your place I did mark this all out for leave but I got here with Dr Ross your daughter Osceola to the civil sure Ross that picked up before your piece of coal where he felt you were sociable or hungry. The only visitor he would prefer the father to SARS was well the ghost of the bar so he prepared to be real like the little bar you say our lady says you ask her to please don't cross you to swallow stay out of the water trust you look out after all this must you or your religious already Orazio Gloria had no Ernest in this life and no believe that all the subs if she stays true don't arceo you out of your surrender to despair. Suppose the other Google says because of the dice gods they do this continuing to harass your spirit all the way they are lies. However cost free still visible cards. If you can turn daughter Osceola gaze my friend right although So why do you doubt if you blast the lobby yet. Bill Russell that was thanks to live on the free shook his head scooped up the gold ball playing the children's street jacks for the new so we're also told it lasted for a life she deserves that recently ruled as meaningless meaningless as it no doubt is I bless the slot in the name of the tripartite God Father Son Holy Spirit bring all those every day care until they are protected Rossiya Loreal is in the center weather event that's the simple ordinary or below or as one dreadful mortal he reached out broke the law for us to talk about the horrors he goes right to earth this blessing. How did you know there are still who tossed chickpeas into is about life and start the way for the butcher block back again there in the kitchen Hoover gives God says many of which are more dreadful and mortal that he really in the mind who forgets God's many of which are more dreadful the mortal that he really mine. The God's Answer me that give me an example of the sound of God's grace toward wars and rumors of wars the holocaust genocide the sufferings of illnesses in the midst of horrendous of evils these cruelties spread from the free will. Activities of human beings to all of you really have the truth to God He permits them. He doesn't do this they are here. You love your free will are well out floods hurricanes earthquakes tsunamis meteor strikes no human being ever in this little Coast crushing tsunami or even a tiny world when the destroyers of the four Valley prayed for mercy and it's now so I thought justified that. No this is full of occurrences determined by who the skies are the astronomical visitation of the fire. God is not Will such things he holds them all with sadness rule redemptive love in your system there's no accountability for anyone but fallible human beings God takes no responsibility for the heinous things that occur only for the good. So how can I hope that this is the Israeli claims you make for his on the others and the excuses you lay for his failures to prevent or at least ease our suffering he does these are separate donor osteo listen I believe that God is a creative force an artist and like a passerby such as massive personalities and meteor strikes occur. Well they stand for moments when God in us has a creative rest houses briefly how this control and therefore seems to us in direct mortals as disasters. God doesn't will these moments though he will something altogether else botches a brain. Although I don't know he only briefly loses his group of those with the worst so grand that even the slightest this step leads to a house tribute for the creation that brought in the being with painstaking love. It's not easy to create roseola nor is it always possible to succeed on one's first but God knows God precisely because he doesn't go away for right to discuss with the he says in those wells of artistic redemption that overcome the unforeseen problem and use the situation with the Russian unexpected gracious. So the good comes out of evil beauty our rule a lot of despair and almost always God uses those of us who have survived these rare loads of really disaster to the struck the rich and the redemption that inevitably soon. You see the older osteo never of that crowd knows what you just said he does so the last to sort out the Rossiya Should this. There is this sort of estate nonsense your status reconciling the existence of evil with out of an all loving god right although admitted that his stance on the problem will drive a large measure of the worth of a British pastoral illusion. That's the you know the National Guard Garzon martyrs novelist composer sculptor who met unexpected problems so genius really that you were the every read out the jury all that rich and really deep each briefly enterprise lost the believer except this analogy between God and the hardest Rinaldo God he or she would each have cost or our brain will to use that stuff terminology and devoid of all the carriers and all the more you see the love with all those could not exceed the such a negative. Formulation of the deity. So you strip in the founder the spirit of the charge of cruelty see the Rossiya life really is a diminished creator you think that a fair trade off. I don't see it as the but there's a large fires of the deal with you man. So the rest creation from a load of us how often we are the agents who help you must tell back that rescue in response to is the love that Christ died. We become all of us of Christ's body and his name is the power to reveal the calamities large and small that let the small so that then they see each other. Holding the sun their last breath. Why they are sure we'll source but not broken bread and the mystical nature of this part of the loop that is a gargoyle you'll cross your mind like it and adjustable sue although you want the term to use to convert you little rust. Even nauseated and the story goes on from that point. I'm not sure the entire bill is. I'm sure that's not entirely enough to be but it was the. That Steve felt was appropriate for the story and I think the likes of this is in some respects a horror story we were speaking last night about how science fiction or different job is a science fiction that many respects is a very optimistic for their action or as for usually there's a rather passive this rather than any rate I hope you'll visit the site read the rest of the story. Sometimes at how you keep track of time to do a website is it really three o'clock. This is supposed to go through three there or there's Iraq three one. OK Well this is all very true. I want to read not a whole of life but of the whole of my hours of fall asleep all Ars Poetica I need you familiar with out home. All right through your mind you're a good idea. Ars Poetica virus of all. The whole should be palatable to you as a blow through this whole the delegates to the fall silent as the sleep war started the case that led to the last drop of polish of the word as the white verse of whole should be motionless and hard as the blue line was leading as the moon releases we vitally and I did trees leaving as the move to hide the litter leaves the Marie by little the life of the whole of the motionless life as a cloud of whole should be the true not true for all of them are you three and into your way that made you leave. For Love leave grouses two lights above the city hall. Should not be. Always mindful of your drug classes Grange college this particular whole thing that we talk about and one of the things that I find interesting about it. They take a look at lives like Holmes were like House of whole words anybody got an answer or response to that question. You know. Rock drop. I think of those another now probably is kind of like word that the right itself can be something that you or your next clearer more lucid what it is that the author is writing about or something that can offer what the authors write about. So I think you're the cliché to say here is that really the whole is like your window. Whatever it is that the author is describing. And you can see through it without your vision the words of the words on the page disappear and you see the images that all it is for right now the very end. I think is interesting. He says the whole should not be throughout most of this song he does exactly what he says he's attempting to do that is he in the ages that you see the last two lives he gives you this outstretched cause that with the imagery whatsoever. Is that the thing for him to do you know I think that it is. Because the show through this last line what I also like this is for all the great doorway of life the life here is one of the things I learned about how world actually pulls up for all of the very reason I would ask all of you for all the every doorway out the doorway or not just the aisle. Perhaps I did what about the door of the little book and your last dollar. You know I can't help. Right there. What color red. You know about all things that we're losing right. You know I think part of the role of the. Worse than just the road as one nation for years. God what hell I don't love the person you hold water finds it hard to correlate with the motion you or the you so you are the first self feels and they want you. If you choose the correct option that will correlated with that motion you almost all doubt produce that in the reader and that's something that I think good wife drives and so our goal was always love the whole always put out while I got all this trouble here to a room full of academics about things that you already know it's because not too sure of long ago. Change your whole little girl or boy young man contribute a hole in the style of a well don't hold hold to an anthology that he's put together by science fiction and fantasy writers which will take various holes and rewrite fantastic or science fiction. So like how the whole of Sears thank goodness are a long haul ours caught up and the word is described years ago and Jewish legend clay figure brought to life by now actually origin late nineteenth century from Hebrew golem maps. That's what you are there dictionary and here's a whole which probably which might not make a whole lot of sense to your I know my what if I had read ARS or whether the goal of the law to use as a play style blue like a headband. Scriptable one ball is a purple black slinky there is that life's goal of should be clueless as a crock of cool group goal should be hard with Haas you run the class C. as it is great. This is this you loser frenzy this strike has its for a performance of dangling walls. They breath while they are all out the goal of should be conscious of that monster free of sole goal should be self not for any of his players and the law for a lot of how force the heart will shill for the goal of should not rule but feel good. Not just good as ours of all the places no matter what. Yet that all of you does not get accepted either by anybody yet anyway. Why. Whatever come to fruition. Does anybody here know anything about just one. I forgot about it. I love good laugh. Yeah what was yours are and their style just Grissom the star yes to John here you are right I want to read a couple let me say there's not much life left really and I probably tried your patience while get up. Would you like to ask a question or would you prefer that I read something else from which you prefer that we retire the riffraff you know where I flash unlike you that poem is the old things you were looking on were angel story leave it alone alone your ego is all about things or still I'm sure which was very well. Don't mention the pilot strange that the trees left. I also have this hole by cliche told you. Andrew Marr let me see he's talking about the sun revolving over the earth different historical that it's come on that sort of thing. I'm not going to read a whole poem to you that just says to feel great about the herb East the earthly chill the dust the slow all those under lands the vast and ever climbed in shadow grow as strange a neck the trees take the lead by we do strange the flooding dark about their deeds the mountains older version change and it goes across the entire face of the earth as the sun goes over the entire face of the earth during wars a day and the day becomes a symbol for errors of errors of the simple passing kingdoms of life. So I cannot help but think that particular uses the Bible really or. It was a novel of the Rosary. But somehow or other my age and the time which it did was a solid heart for Rosenthal very much a surprise and I love that little addition that harbor rodeo design then should last a life long LOL Now while I bought it for a paperback novel he thought that was too fussy and precious a title for a science fiction all. So if any and I suggested I said I said you know he gave me some suggestions I said how about this because I thought like you need to shout and he liked that well enough but not really because it had to go right. So that was the way that you do your part of the story is just your whole other things were Yeah like and I know that that's. That's a lot. I will say when I start publishing I brother in law forced publishers they could trust get a book so close to the books that are there no rules under contract. No doubt they're going to take you there with you but you're not at least I got that right. At a time over the past the last solo life was a baseball or was a little there's a lot of the only other novels that are really collaboration all your mystery novels but I've done the single solo like roses for those a long time so I guess all I can say is that either. The word doesn't get published or for the writing short. That's what top problem is it's not very what I'm working on right now and I kept wondering myself a little bit is on a street called an out of the action takes place. George and you're like it was a version of the ninety's and I was your home. No one likes to look like a good look but for that reason like there's so so long. So this and I also third person for my right. Prologue and epilogue hopeful of what I'm told. Look like he's really be autistic myself I would say the real deal. I don't know whether that's because you're in there. You do not write or because my son never breaks so I'll just load up. After you don't really take a chance on going all the new direction. And I'm not trying to build up. So you're not really everything that I told myself and I also probably have also told myself. Joy. Julian Bond you put together. Yeah yeah yeah. This came out of two thousand. Yeah you know I got a couple of people who work real hard to help me come through carry out but this is an anthology called across the centuries and the idea here is twenty five that tells about Christ and the others were really friends but I got two writers of the original stories in this anthology here in the audience today one I wish had been that long but Paul below contributed the story original story to this. So this is another thing that I see now a lot of this was published by the rebels brass. Do not prove your Colonial Drive. Yeah yeah and I do this for if you come out on the cusp of very disintegrate. As soon as a decision is this anthology it was accepted by others or less you left the company and as soon as the book was published. They killed the Thunderbolts press and it no longer exists. The book is still available but you know this is a go. And so the book itself just kind of disappeared didn't even get reviewed the New York Review of science fiction which I thought without thought they would hardly have a long relationship with a side somebody to read the book doing a review of the doctor the good review with the reviewer. LOL this is a dark color that a lot of the original stories of the body of the dismissed the rest of the because they were already friends and it seems to me that there is something terribly different between a book that is organized around you know a series of stories particular believe that there is just you know a story of the group sources will return to follow. But you walked out Fareed you got those you know there's just things out but I will say that I got a few copies of this here outside the I knew you were interested in that book which I wrote some journal of dollars hole for any of the locals that you have books of your own life. So I don't do the rich books that long got the one day lose their questions really. Yes brought Karen to write science fiction that is most refuted by science fiction. So this is nothing like what she very clearly broke out with she wrote The Jane Austen Book Club. This is a writer's process. A lot of write letters without a doubt one of the other things that are the biggest right. If your stories of the days are revealed successes. So that it's already published and full of the original name is free when you take a look. You'll see that most of the story is a vice. I was fictional fantasy writers but she was not the first drop publisher holding a street story. While you're a science fiction writer or somebody you just restore a lot of the stories published you. Well my my last publication Georgia review was a lot like a little bit of a look at mainstream stories other arms reach out to help while others will not get the credit for Dot because all of the stories are also out of their arms reach out to the forces along. George I proud of that particular book that doesn't exist. So the people that saw that every I think it's really worth the stories first appeared in the loop but I do think that when people see them all together they will see the there is a thousand stories. So. I guess the some extent you know with all the usual that I should be the guest of the size the very gratified that satellites are going to do together with a lot of the mainstream research that's not so very glad you're out of joy at least says So you saw a solution to regret your age you will all really published resides there. I was so excited. First with this really you are going to have a little take a look at the pictures there. That was another little just all the different directions one go. All of the possibilities explored by color.