Screeching tractor sound.

You're really please
not just to beat your.

Money but.

To really continue to grow
our partnership Georgia Tech.

Radio you know that.

Sell face we are.

Nonprofit that has the mission moving
sustainable homes workplaces and

duties and we do that through education
research technical systems and

that is where our NOT offices
are really about a five minute walk

from here over all of the people I
knew given in the city center so

we would expect all to come out and take
the office of a pretty impressive building

an architect very good officer here and
I'm proud of the day our friends for

that have come visit us we hope to learn.

By the way if you are interested in
a broader discussion of sustainability

in the region on the last
Friday's first try and

use each month I just came back to do we
take it that's a good sign if you forget

your landmark programs they had
a great vacation so the first Friday

we do this is take more land around the
table were about a hundred or so folks and

you had to have this type
of conversation and so

we do that over at All Saints Church which
is just the beginning couple of blocks

here short walk and
I am told that our November

this is the letter of table is going
to be a discussion about how the role

of higher education did as a thing and
how we started to take away important

topics they did we might eventually
leave it here to their families David so

would love to see you there how
to stand right around tape.

And out of the.

Charge of the we have here with
Georgia Tech this morning is really.

For our visionary leader which is going
to be tonight for Steve is going to

be our heroes figure and we'll get our
eye on one more presentation there.

If you're interested in coming to the new

film there are a couple seats
still left so you know something.

About that one Robert One housekeeping
word we're god could I ask you

to do with your questions on our
cars each of the tables here and

Howard Robert I think you probably
go are going to be circulating.

Or we're going to cause you to be
circulating like you were those

cards during the discussions that
are humans are going to be having and

then we'll use these for
questions you're dressing.

Later in their discussion or
by the card question are you trying to my

view that's two or
three times a day out I think you know I.

Forget what I have to sacrifice so
much harsher than the great work that

you're.

Now I know quite a few of you in the room
for those of you who I don't know hi

how are you now I mean energy
director of the Anderson Center for

Sustainable Business tells
the charcoal of your doors that.

He ends just wanted to

have this in context around this we
really appreciate partnership with.

South by the very last year I
think is a great way to kick off.

Their general density as well as kick off
their last year of a partnership with

stations.

Couple knows and sure don't forget.

That he did say.

So our center our Says mission
is to use the power of business.

Innovation and
technology very stable future.

And early on in our formation my
colleague Carol Dr Bailes Hokkaido

who you will meet in just a moment so
she founded the Center and

very early in our conversations with
the receivers and Foundation and others.

We realized that what we really wanted
to do was educate the regular sense of

tomorrow what that means many many of
you know the Raiders and he was but

for those of you not many refer to him as
the green a C.E.O. longer river to him.

He founded and the C.E.O.
of their place Harvard's and

dedicated simply the last two decades
of his life to making interface of

a sustainable company possibly be he and
prove that sustainability

companies to be truly sustainable and
he will restore to while still growing

revenues growing profits that is not
a trail and he is known worldwide

among Sustainability Leaders as
a true visionary behaved off so.

Graziers and foundation and

some of the trustees of mark here
thank you very much for joining.

Health Status our center and
due to a recent

larger commitments we have renamed our
center to the race here since a very and

there's no better need to be
associated with our center than.

He ends when we said we were as
an educator the area of tomorrow

does not only do the business school and
this is the students but

across Georgia Tech and
he young and so we were looking for

opportunities to do that we're developing
trivialise the industry Gage mins and

the research investment
in the business school.

But had an opportunity came our way.

The institute says out call for
those all for what was called.

What we refer to for here time as in
the you know the Huey which stands for

the quality and he has a plan
every ten years the institute all

instances of se that do as part
of your predication say what

is a subject that we really NEED TO THE
BEST him on cross the Institute for

undergraduate education what is it of
course and topic that undergraduates need

to understand better within the context
of their individual studies so

I looked at each other when we saw this.

Same drill this is a perfect
opportunity so Beryl led the charge and

worked with many of you and then joined
forces with Ellen's who were and

went to a process that many of you in
this room were a part of of creating

a community and a hosel those that
accepted so Georges are now have

a new body has a plan this whole sort of
learns to say it was all about creating

stable communities and offering
opportunities across the Institute for

undergraduate education around stabile So
once that is exhausted the first thing

that we have to do is they will do
is going direct and we bring in so.

Oxygen Hurst was hired which were
very very excited all started

six weeks ago so
it was very new both Atlanta and or.

Doing an amazing job he thought and

this partnership itself a thought This is
a great opportunity to introduce a larger

part of the community to
the work of surfacing that to.

Let you know if you noticed that I I
don't sit idly by makes someone do

wrong hire those and
what not but so much of what.

Dr Hirsch's background is is still
current So what we're doing and

what we're trying to do their least or
unless you know is if you don't and

Chicago Most recently she was working in.

On campus in the village of old works with
no problems of focus on the suitability.

She is nationally recognized for growth.

Through grassroots which is a vision and
sustainability Climate and

Energy Action Plan you can you teach and
she does this with a very unique

approach based on her diverse background
using approaches from and the quality

asset base development very critical for
conversation we're having today

because this is the story facilitation
education and other areas.

And her Ph D. is in control of the whole
the from do you know let her tell you more

she is going to salute a discussion we'll
start with so thank you very much to me

for a lot of.

Good morning everybody it's really
exciting to be in her lands being

protected and to be starting to work with
the surrounding Atlanta community which is

one of our partners on the as well as
communities in other parts of the country

where the jury will get to you on
how I think explain enough and

I want to try to do a circle or sustain
one of the key things we want to deal is

really large the conversation around
sustainability to include environment but

really be more holistically about what
does it take to create sustainable

communities in general communities that
sustain people and that stay in nature and

allow everybody who's alive to drive
now just sustain themselves but

really thrive and how do we do that
especially five paying attention to how

you choose to intercept I meant having
Steve Kerr would come into town for

the southeastern side just a perfect
opportunity for us to explore these issues

because he is someone who used
to work on civil rights issues.

And he has his career has evolved
as a journalist has come to work on

environmental issues and so hearing their
stories are really great platform for

starting a conversation about
the connections between civil rights

community values equity environment and
sustainability as a whole so

this we want to do today is really use
his personal story as a starting point

for exploring our own stories and thinking
about how these things come together in

our lives and how we can engage more
people in this writer conversation and

eventually in thinking about the kinds
of partnerships between universities and

communities and governments and
I'm proud sector and

the business sector to work together
especially in the Atlanta area for

significant change in
the communities where we all live so

I'm very excited to be facilitating
this we are going to have

two other panelists besides you and

I asked all of that because as Howard
was a Miers tend to be pretty boring.

To just summarize for me their careers
something you're passionate about and

something that might be interesting or
surprising for

you to Nelson we can tell you what
they told me so Steve as I mentioned

is a journalist I many of us probably
through time and here are and

he said that he is a journalist things the
best story going is environmental change.

When I asked him about his passion and
he talked about how creationism

amazing gives and it's so beautiful
that we all have to take care of it.

And I asked What's particularly
interesting about himself he said that he

is a vegetarian falls off
the wagon from a good.

They'll say how do you know that his
your environmental Gene absorbency and

there's abuse regime or
vegetables but not all.

Charles Wiley I'm I'm sure many
of you know these are the sal.

Base board member Steve is in
the middle here Charles is on the end

of his Southeast board member he's
been around for a long long time and

his career is focused on economic
development and pilot private partnerships

he's done a lot of work in government and
now he's in the private sector

trying to facilitate these public private
partnerships I have he is passionate about

doing community about invented inner
city neighborhoods using an inclusive

approach really paying attention
to at the quality of diversity and

something interesting about him is that he
once ran an indoor commercial fish farm.

In the ninety's in Tennessee and
land and here particularly problematic

fish it was apparently some kind
of hermaphrodite opportunistic

I mentioned this to me Aphrodite I
would not make this so they could not

use it produce more fish and so
eventually they went with what grouper so

well known that was this which is it's
a lot of your we we did two of you I read

you could read OK to her or
not what happened to.

Yes He's also passionate about fencing
because that is what his son does and

said he is passionate
about was some of those.

Barrel who many of you know
has had a long career and

distinguished career as a faculty member
I focused on research and sustainable

operations management and business
models to promote the circular me.

She's passionate she's she's one of
the leaders as Howard said the survivors

Danish did and she's passionate about
working with students to make a difference

help them make a difference in the world
by transforming education education tech

She has a multicultural family background
including Turks a Macedonian and

Italy descent and
Spanish immigrants to France

she's married to agree who is also
a family member in Georgia Tech and

they're raising kids
who identify as a mere.

One side an American on the others.

So that's a little bit out there on
that let me tell you a little bit about

how this is going to go as it's going
to time for a couple minutes and

shared story with us as a starting point
for discussion and then Darrell and

Charles are going to share a little bit
about their stories in response to kids

and I'm going to just talk
amongst ourselves out here.

What these stories had to teach us about
the question of how we create sustainable

communities that really lift all boats as
Van Jones likes to say during this whole

thing if you have questions as as I have
done is already said feel pretty great in

that cards also really feel free if you
have assurances that a personal story

you want to share are common one sure does
not have to be a question we want this to

be a conversation feel free to write those
down as well make sure your name on it and

if you have a card at any point during
this whole conversation just present

hearty character and how it is Robert
come around and pick them up and

kind of curing them for the last part
of the opening of the conversation or

the whole group and then Steve is
going to close us out with some

final reflective economists
about the implications for

moving forward with our work in Atlanta
especially within the context of what's

happening in terms of sustainability
in community nationally on and

this will close out I'm good.

All right it's only.

Just.

Let's see this is one where
does this one work all right so

Good morning thank you for coming out.

And I see that you guys could write to the
church the meetings you're the football

stadium you've got the force
to be from the Boston area.

It's funny you trolls of substance say I
didn't grow up with the well Lou but some.

Of course.

It is you know from all
these amazing community

I mean that they sparkle while the.

Less thrilled about this so many things
are wonderful I mean you get to work.

And that his life he'd have that
he is not an individual and

love being on the campus is a challenge
because our academic system tends to

have us work as individuals right if
you Clarett somebody else on paper or

something of that G.D. but
if I hear the real world we have to work.

And get some more I'm so

glad that you have this sort of hard
sustained initiative because the only

way that sustainability can really
work is as a team doesn't matter if

I drive a hybrid you drive a hybrid
you drive a hybrid everybody else

doesn't care then we're not
made a whole lot of progress.

Just about that if we wanted to
reduce carbon emissions cars

we go all the way to get
a bunch of us to buy.

Let's talk about how can we get
a twenty percent reduction.

Of some of those could just
simply stop driving and

just ride a bicycle will be very
conservative or we've heard all this is

a group decided that one day out of the
week with a view of public transportation

rather than taking our car no capital of
the required just change behavior but

working together so.

Our new professor asked me to
tell my story how did I get here.

The See I had to go back to my
great grandfather going home.

Instead Well I'll tell you this is one of
the first birthday and I think he said he.

And my roommates when
friends came I say this.

There will be a big demonstration and
being in the Boston area being Cambridge.

In those days during the Vietnam war get
a straight instead to be well there to be

some broken glass and I said they said
well this is going to say demonstration

there's no expected here again seriously
it's really exciting as are they and

I said to myself Earth Day Isn't that
why guys who worry about space to write.

Right I mean that's
the consummation cram aren't

I've got things I you know I'm
worried about civil rights things and

I'm worried about women's rights.

I'm worried about what we're
doing with this war and

Southeast Asia that doesn't seem to
be serving this country very well.

But all right I'll go with you guys.

So fast forward to nine hundred ninety
when I started this broadcast and

I look back on that period of
time when I know this was.

We were doing at the time we
were doing pretty well actually

on the international conflict front.

We were doing pretty well in terms of

we were doing better in
terms of civil rights.

We were doing better in terms of
bringing women into the whole economy.

But we were at a logically
it was backwards.

Things were worse.

There all the worse Lucian and
steadily rising population and.

Really having trouble figuring
out what we had to do.

And I were pretty years for
The Boston Globe and

my mentor there was any way you
know the names which were well.

Yeah you know you know and

Tom made a very simple word presence
mentioning the Constitution because.

In a democratic society you can be
a free press to form the electorate.

People are voting to decide.

If they have the right information
they can make appropriate choices

if they have lousy information they
need less appropriate choices and

so it's not my job as a journalist
to tell you what to think

it's my job as a journalist to provoke
you to think about what's going on.

So I will carry on as this is
the biggest story that I can see because

the environment or the ecology or
nature work being on this planet

how we want to divide the steel income
this is everything the question of war and

peace economics are endless can work
whatever moral values are all those

are that it what we call
the coliseum here or

the dark side of this special site.

And I think that.

My perception of what it meant to be
green all reflects some partially what

a lot of the national green
organizations they come from.

Well as I as my daughter the historian
pointed out to me one day she said it

better you read the west by the Earls of.

This land still refusing
to come into this one.

Because battery problems.

I was just say very.

Yes So my daughter the story is a daily
reality whether the West I think

the Roosevelt She might work I said no
this well here let me let let me show you

this little passage and Teddy Roosevelt
says that the West won't be wanted to

tell his rid of the red yellow black and
brown.

And so Teddy Roosevelt being an icon
of the environmental movement in this

country John York his speaking of out of

what would become a national
park system you don't have.

And Teddy Kennedy had no sanity.

Hit the Indians idea of sanity and
you know our national parks

they were national parks were
whites only till the point.

And so we have.

So number of the establishment
environmental well before it was a shit

screw up coming from this particular
tradition I mean it is our history I mean

it is well yes but.

It's only a slice it's only a slice
because at the end of the day

how many folks who are inspired by
of visit hear his talk about this.

And you know for me the wonderful takeaway
of the pope's visit was the right

to know why includes
living on this planet.

You know the INS it's really important
he put out a second ago that builds

on the work of other problems for
him talking about how.

We have to care for this creation that
you respect or you know like nature.

And so.

The one thing about the environment
it's tricky academic setting is.

If you don't have a viral studies
department where you shouldn't be is it

a biology Well yes isn't
it well isn't it chemistry

Yes Is it politics yes is
it it's sports medicine and

ecology I mean all of
the Yes it's everywhere.

Because everything is connected and
everything else systems work together.

I mean these little silos
academia doesn't much like that

interdisciplinary study is
some places seen as less than

you know why can't somebody really
others I mean I teach a course at heart.

Or just the three different
biology partners this one for

molecular this one for
organs and this one for

genetics I mean it's a lot.

So what's driven about your initiative
here is as you look at the question of

how we sustain our society our
civilization the ability to move forward.

It has to be over.

You can't just focus on one thing so.

A couple of thoughts before we
move on to more discussion here

one of the things that.

I discovered as I said about me
journalism of environmental change.

Was I had a bridge of my
perspective of how business works.

I didn't have a whole
pocket wrote this book.

And I put all and
he introduced me to re-enters.

And I sat down what their grade told me
his basic concept of the carpet pile.

And why would one.

Have to throw away the entire carpet when
you could just fix a tile in the hot

highly trafficked place why if
you know what's in the tile and

I mean are we first we
have both in the show or

there's an interface in this that this
is maybe not interface time here but

how if you know how something is made
with how to tell you exactly what's

in the agreement if you know how
something is made you can recycle

it because you can extract the event
that you that's in there you know no.

You know simple.

Concepts.

Let me into a day with
me business strategy.

And the notion for me it was an eye opener
the notion that wait a second by doing

this well by executing economic business

plan well they even have
a strong sustainability.

Mentally appropriate that it back to
the end of the day we're finding now

the businesses that
are having its rough start.

I think the balance is pretty obvious now
what happens is that businesses don't

mention sustainability I'm thinking of
the coal industry you know this three or

four years ago you'd spend seventy five
dollars a share by all day of the day.

By dollars.

An hour for forever.

Arch Coal is a penny stock.

Why because these companies pay
no attention to sustainability.

And just simply said look we're going to
push regulatory process we're going to say

that climate change is a lie and
we need to move forward.

Instead of taking these a sample approach.

How could the whole be sustainable
in today's market is a challenge

maybe should be of the school project or
somebody here but

I'll suggest a way that you have a good
case for more sustainable call it do

the full carbon footprint of natural gas.

It's about three quarters of coal.

Three quarters of coal because methane
when it first comes out is one hundred

times of wind we're
seeing as the C O two or.

Natural gas explodes when you miss him.

And will believe it's all over America.

And because we're reading that natural
gas we're building into our economy this

infrastructure that we've got to get rid
of I'm going to deal with it like a champ.

So the whole had a smart and

of a sustainability they said
OK we're making a transition but

let's make the transition smart we
already have this in the structure.

We already know how to transport
call yes it's a little more carbon

that with natural gas is believed Bill
that the structure we go to stand.

We need to scale back and this is
now moving away now we're making but

it looks at the time of
the automobile emerging so

let's do a decent transition.

Because the society owes so much to
the whole miners for generations who

sacrificed their health and the their
lives so that we could have the legs on.

But no hope Ross its arms said
you know Russell is a liar

about climate in the regulation is as.

Good as an Obama comparison because
spirits either kill coal and

where are they now.

So you look at this positively
the way Ray Anderson did

this is a terrific opportunity or
you think about it events of that if you

want your business is to keep
operating they need to be sustainable.

There's one other element about
sustainability that I think that's really

important.

And again hope is the post office and

that is the human body piece of all this.

You know it's not just about
the job of the folks at the top.

It's not about the outlandish
it's the right trial now for

what happened here Big Branch Mine is.

About people throughout the entire
organization of the communities there are.

Ever for businesses to work they
need to be part of the community for

communities to work we need to
have a program that's nice.

And this all has to come together so
in some sense as well and

understand that not only is.

Sustainability the right thing
to do it is a human right.

To have.

A connection to nature and
ours and our businesses and

how we how we operate so
that is healthy and loses forward.

So I think I'll leave it
at that it's really excited

to be at a place like Georgia Tech.

You know I wanted.

You guys have had so much going here
who publishes the magazine by the way

it was just as it was all year because
of the Georgia Tech thing as I was

always saying this is somebody who
does that as it has over the years

well when you had a chance to talk with
OSA to hear Meg I'm always excited to see

this song really innovation that has.

That this white buffalo Ari Ari Daniel
has done a number of pieces actually

that we're there based on the end of some
of the initial research is being here so

that's enough for me to go ahead thank

you.

Morning in general what are you
managing director of company called me.

Yesterday that.

Inclusive solutions.

You love you really public record workers.

And a part of my background was heading
up economic development in Atlanta and

fortunately Dennis recruited me for
the south face board and

I won't tell you about the arm twisting
that that involve them in true dentist

out west but five or six years ago I
joined it and it became clear to me from

a policy standpoint and economic
development standpoint sustainability and

inclusion were critical to
the survival of a city.

And ultimately to the economic
productivity in general love of a region.

And so we tried to bring the tools
together that could make that happen and

I'll give you one example I
think that has been really.

Important in this city and
that was developed in the capital stack

they can support Brownfield remediation.

And so people have read about a New York.

Times people who live here have
walked the Eastside trail but

that's really the result of cooperation
between the city Atlanta belt whining and

the Environmental Protection.

That is an important example
of transforming communities

by removing obstacles.

That really have served as a life and
another hindrance to

development community and now we're
seeing that occur in other parts of

the city bringing those properties back
on to the tax roles that acted use is

changing the perception of the communities
those same time training people in those

communities to be a part of that
transformation and understand it and

to obtain careers in environmental
remediation and construction and so

I see the importance of the policy
piece tied to the private sector

because the private sector typically will
look at these projects the public sectors

less than ten percent of the capital stack
the private sector bring in a lot more but

some of these deals don't get
done without that gap funding.

And I suggested that gap funder
has a village influence how that

how how that project impacts social and

community goals and that's an important
part of what I think sustainability is all

about.

I mean one that's just like work yes
it's OK it doesn't seem to work and

yet so
I was born in one nine hundred seventeen

I learned today that that
was the price the Earth Day.

And I grew up in Izmir in Turkey
which is a developing country and

where there was and
is still isn't all that much regard for

the in my so when I was going.

The Bay that the city is situated on which
is what used to be beautiful My father

used to swim in it and fish in it it was a
cesspool it really was literally its stack

and there were ten rerun offs you
just wouldn't go within three blocks

of the bay and in the morning when
we set out to take the school bus

there was this metallic smell in the air
and we would put scarves around our

noses to keep out of the smog.

But you know it bothered
me just a little bit but

I didn't know things could be different
I didn't know things could be better.

There was another thing when I took
a shower sometimes my skin would break out

and I had a word for
it I'm allergic to water.

You know now I wonder what carcinogens or
whatever were in that water so

it's really it wasn't really until I left
my home country and I came to the US and

I was twenty two years old for graduate
school and I saw my god it can be so

much better this is the most
industrialized nation in the world and

the level of air quality and water quality
even though there is definitely room for

improvement was you know Young's
ahead of where I was coming from and

that was really an epiphany for me and
it also happened at a time where

during my Ph D. studies I had
the unfortunate day to work on a business

model that was quite revolutionary at the
time this was the Kodak single use camera

so Kodak had origin only design have you
ever taken pictures or given them to your

kids you know the cardboard cameras they
had designed them to be thrown away and

then there was you know my mental backlash
and they had gone back to the drawing

board and figured out well in fact because
the consumers take these things back to

the processors if you have a contract with
one processors you can get the cameras

back you.

And reuse the lens up to three times you
can reuse a circuit board up to five times

which means once you put that in place
you're selling you know mix vintage

cameras but the customer doesn't really
know it's still the same product and

you're reducing your environmental impact
three fold five fold whatever it is but

of course because the idea is new and you
know this is the circular economy idea or

this one of the ideas in it there were
a whole host of issues to resolve so

suddenly your procurement
practices have to change or

inventory management has to change the way
you market has to change you have to have

a contract with one of processors you have
to think about the zine because other

people can take the product then
reloaded and sell under your brand and

that's a problem so
well it creates a whole you know a lot

of problems to work on and
I really got hooked.

With this idea that I could take
everything that I had learned you know

my son asked me yesterday how many uses
you go to college and I said Well ten.

College and master's and V.C..

Could take everything I
have learned in industrial

engineering operations research and
business Those were my my degrees.

And then put them to use to help
businesses in a faint develop new business

models and then more importantly make them
work and make them work in a way that I

was doing well by doing good just
referring back to the race comments so

I'm really passionate about this idea
of business is doing well by doing good

I'm really passionate like
Jenny said about education.

Ray Anderson is a remarkable way.

You know I think any one of our names go.

There.

And I really find it very cool to.

Learn.

Doing research these various.

That's my personal story.

Thanks.

Here is a lack of think about it really
great conversation over breakfast

really if you like to just stand
there because get this because

a lot of really think things come
up somewhere in the exaggerated

years credit for
some of those things come up again.

Because they were so interesting.

I want to go back so.

I mean as I was reading storytelling gave
out that he's there again I'm sorry my

great grandfather right well they're not
asking what he tells us about your great

grandfather and
why is that story started with him.

Well my great grandfather was from
the other talk it was a clogger or

a horse business.

First people here with your
train horses or racing you.

All the other whiter the tires
the visual restraint.

And.

That.

By Steve Thomas who it was was Thomas.

His work I think our family
this striving for excellence.

That you could always do better and
it was great

you know whatever you do it was great it's
wonderful because that's where you are and

you can do better and
then you get to work.

There are things you do
the training to prove.

And then also that it's
important that you.

Get a night that every horse has
the ability to be the fastest rather

understandable or.

The driving situation results.

So what are the other values there because
some are great parents you know you get

the right group they're all that because
there was a sense in the family that.

It's appropriate to compete but

at the same time at the end of
the day we need to come together so

our family is very competitive probably
the most status member of our family is

that he's honest skater the skater
came away with a medal.

And.

But we're also a family it's
not just the competition so

that that's a little piece of where
I would start my great grandpa.

Thanks so you heard there all about your
little bit about your child growing up

child you want to share something about
that everybody ends up in careers

right here in the right trying to do
public private partnerships working for

our county government right
working at home I'm here for.

Communities are often left out.

On the you know work right really trying
to look at what are you friends or

what is it about your story that
you think like you to do that work.

Thanks Well I'm a native and
we have true native born

here in the city in
the nine hundred sixty two.

And actually not a great deal which is
a hospital that most people think about.

My father and his brother contractors and
built a hospital

with African-American doctors and
so I was the last of my family for

Harris was OK There was just.

So I think the family stories that
we're getting some of those that were

close knit family so close that
when my father's parents moved from

their Griffin Brownsville area Georgia
they bought three blocks next to

build three homes so we had one big bad.

You know whichever house or killed.

Dinner to get literally right in
the city on the belt you're going.

And we really were
pioneers belt drive train.

You know there was no idea that you
really got a whipping boys you.

Know.
We'll take you.

Out of there and so
that you know our parents are still.

Family and Community.

When my father and

his brothers were growing up very far
afield they had their own school.

My grandmother and great.

Grandmother had actually gone to.

Some of the family one who was also the
white family had been the slave owner and

said you know for the public.

Your be different in the private
schools are one school and they did.

So.

By their.

Community just.

One came back from my
grandmother's My dream was to hers.

Graduate college.

You know they were generational my
mother's Her father was received his Ph D.

and.

So there was a sense of forms of
education pride in their community

builders they built
communities that they live.

In so that connection to the community
is really what guided so this.

History of Love for the way.

That is really where there's
a candor where you go a little bit

longer and.

Not.

Get really guests you like some things
we were talking about this morning.

Part of which is how lists and really
really imbedded in our histories in our

communities is technology help us make and

it can lead to innovations
that as long as it builds on.

What we've done in the past
that we know is a stable and

something we should live straight
there was somebody else to tell where

is the person in the audience on
your board tennis who does the.

Oral History Project.

My views are there right there yes who
tries to cashier knowledge of people who

are about to retire right yes especially
in our private industry times incorrectly

so that we don't lose our very knowledge
and live we have to reinvent the wheel

right so I think there are things about
your families that you're talking about

that demonstrate how this knowledge
is within us and part of what we have

to do is to back it right it figure
out how to make it all today.

And how long the lines of thinking about
family and pride and community and

you're talking about ownership UNITE HERE
is that education happens in different

parts of the community not just in our
schools I'm Steve can you share a story

about something are you sure this is.

What you must be to tell you was
it done as a young journalist or

covered wars are tired and
some of those issues are rather less and

in two thousand and three were.

Either there or
made a long story short we got involved so

why does business development
go place to live US city of

Cato's Brett Larson a big waves out there.

So.

But the most of this morning was a couple
of examples first in the search for

this place.

Real estate person was.

One of them I decided.

I don't there really isn't news out
there pushing the Show us where

we should by the standards or by.

We locked up and this is truly
wonderful they were hooked and

the thing the so-called out years is
that every house around us will with one

exception which is I think we're all
invited us to come either have a meal or

at least a couple of drinks or
something they didn't like and

that when we.

And the people we know
there feel very comfortable

it's OK that's decided to drop in.

At this time to socialize that when
we went to the coffee shop one

day and wanted to get.

Takeaway cups thereof that is why
would you want to take your party

away my history.

And art or another story is that.

Friends told me that they
were getting married and.

There may have three hundred
people this way I said

why did you spend that kind of money
on a way we hire you know this is

why you're a stand everybody sort
of bring something this way.

They're going to help us celebrate it's
not going to be part of our pockets.

And I learned that so
I don't for example like it or

I did the patient to gather the focus of
it so that the World Cup was there friend

said OK let's get together one
o'clock without two of our lives again

I just you are there then to bring
something table because that's what

happened though he said this is
a potluck or shared with just everybody.

There with others of a social and
the something we take here in America.

Up Close with a story to tell a breakfast.

I our studios are Boston either southern
New Hampshire few miles from me and

tracked down Easter which is how you.

And I realize one day that if I
leave the house without my wallet

there's one gas station where
I see that much of the time

maybe I could talk of
the five dollars will get me.

But all my train conductor doctors
I see over the years there

the fire you know get the pick of their
number of people actually have friends we

socialize our people train somebody who
will be happy to let me that my hours or

whatever days to go.

But write it all in my heart with those
rolled up I really anybody around me

like that kind of support so our community

community community community
that's the good sustainability.

You know like us why we didn't
come here is actually to get

here you have to have something and
he may not like it but that's not.

And we are.

Our species is just social species and
so for

us to really get the sustainability
you have to work with the.

Child.

That's how it's done we don't.

When we have we try to
think of us versus them.

Serious.

Here we're going to keep going with
a couple of these cards discussion cards

here Mark cards feel free to
raise your hand out coming up.

Higher here.

There was.

Charles you talk to you did
you were planning Herships

private partnerships you also
mentioned a little bit about.

You know Lance our grandchildren
partnership right between this

young fella.

And I was wondering.

If.

You could say a little bit more about
the importance of partnerships and

especially you barely you to about.

Race right here why and why are you
raising which business and government or

private sector and also universities
like Georgia Tech were really up for

a lot of mazing universities here on.

How they were working together today but
what else would building hope for.

For.

You know what you can for Gap I mean.

You know what I'm looking
out the best way to develop.

A lot of our partnership rights so
we were trying to

rob Yeah.

Getting.

Ready.

For market reality so
we think about just general.

Let's go first where to build a building
basically anywhere you want to do.

That.

But the differentials are significant so
reading economic development.

You have ways to really overcome.

So Brownfield program what
type of their work program all

of our brand feels like
whether meltwater go.

Were part of that area was.

A good partnership with Georgia Tech so
we use studios.

To do the.
To come up with innovation so

that we might hire
a professional consultant for

redevelopment plan so
forth part of the legislative process but

on those ideas we were
trying to do really their.

Protest early we would use the students
as students don't have any other plans.

So it's a new perspective the community
will let the students come as well.

As it does sound like really good help so
there's no fear in that case.

And so a lot of these solutions
that eventually fall and

that's the case due to a significant
redevelopment brothers in Atlanta

came out of work here in
Georgia to belt them right and

it stayed right where so
these are students.

There were a part that eventually someone
saw So I think that's the other thing is

that there's been a unique
partnership between the city and

Georgia Tech that unlike most
academic of America Georgia Tech

has economic development as a part
of its mission from day one

which is a really interesting
opportunity for me as an economic.

To be able to partner with.

That has that is a part of the mission.

And so I think what we're going to see
more are now the legal frameworks are in

place for more public private partnerships
I think we're going to see more of these

public private academic partnerships
taken into guiding sums and

solving problems particularly
around infrastructure and.

So I thank you I think
this is we are Brian's.

Rihanna's name so

like you said Georgia Tech has yes where
you can only kind of development OK.

Yes and
that's certainly an insight into how.

We in fact can interact
I like to start by.

Being silent I like her presentation that
was put together by the proviso is if you

for something will systems what they
did is they pulled all the grants that

have been present in the last five
years that will grant database and

check all the trees in those grounds and
then create a network connected to

this matrix as if I will although we
are all sitting in our own disciplines and

here in our own disciplines how much
interdisciplinary work is happening at

Georgia Tech is really part of the culture
of Georgia Tech here way that's perhaps

more than many other institutions.

That hasn't it is interesting
to see Oracle partners and

then those projects.

Are a thing those projects are.

Not hard to come in to

evolve.

Like OK.

Really.

Economic development.

So.

Nice So it's a joy to live.

There so.

Yes like.

Yes.

And the state isn't very their.

History which is the heart of Texas yes.

It creates an economic
development that connects.

To the.

Intent with.

What.

They.

Think.

And it's it's an.

Economic.

Universe.

Industry and

they.

So you see you are really out
of the collaboration work

as a part of that is there are women
ration trees of focus to save

your efforts need to be really
we're not just going to do mine for

one city so Health Care for
America will stay where.

They do the people who
are equipped to Georgia to.

Be here to sure to come down there
providing people staying closer.

So sustainability if we start
moving our sustainability issues up

you've got the horsepower.

Human resources.

Very power to really solve some
of these issues collaborative

where.

Whole.

I think building on some of what
you said I'm just looking at these.

Different cards.

And letters are they use are very
number of cards are asking about.

Equity.

Which we've been talking about and I think
you know the there's one question or says.

Iran boss are the three listed
as the least equitable city is

what our strategies for change I think you
know really Charles what you were just

talking about which is working at by
regions as opposed to cities is one big

thing that a lot of places are doing.

But I wonder.

If any of the three of you it
has some concrete examples

you're looking at the intersection
between sustainability and equity or.

Do you have some good examples that
you feel like if you really take

equity seriously.

This is what sustainable communities
work might look like as opposed

to you stated the latest on happily
taking every consideration and

breaking one takes and.

I think it's hard to see more out
to not have equity involved in

what's going to be sustainable so
just step into the world definition from

on something is going to be
sustained it needs to be stable and

it's not equitable it's not going
to be stable it's that simple.

So.

That's the difference between
perhaps greenwash somebody that says

yeah this is really a largely sound
something that actually goes for

the longer term and.

So we have tremendous income disparities
which really make things difficult this

country right now this is the worst it's
been this is a nineteen twenty one a big

crash I hope it doesn't protect we have to
go through a kind of it about meltdown to

get things better organized but I happen
to live in the state of Hampshire.

And it was really interesting about
the Hampshire is that there's no sales tax

there's a minimal income tax.

And.

There are virtually notices
in the government spending.

And when the economy is bad the government
on the US has its resources.

And if I came at that
from the traditional.

It was a traditional point of view that
would say you got to have a lot of welfare

spending it does work people with money.

And the state operated that way
we would have those results.

The emphasis in New Hampshire has
been on our military communities and

we've had another
disparity what we've done.

Is.

Instead of targeting individuals and
actually targeted communities so

we had another obvious rich chance for
property taxes very intense so

rich towns can have better tax revenues so
because of

the disparity that showed up here to
Keisha system we actually had a system of

totally rich town center which dissipated
and more which then turned around and

donated to the less affluent
towns to support education.

Not done individual basis so
you get a lousy welfare check Sure but

your school system is much better
supported if you don't have a strong

tax base so
this was a sense of that with me.

This was a way of how do we how do we
redistribute when we get these disparities

without creating either people it's
sort of a welfare mentality which can be

somewhat toxic.

And.

Making sure that people understand
that they have privilege.

Here's an interesting way to deal with
their body with tax law saying I'm

the Danes are supposed to be the happiest
folks folks on the planet you've heard

this.

This is the happy society so when we were
on the show the other was and our part we

asked a sociologist so you guys are happy
so tell us as we talk to this is how happy

they can have an infinite capacity for
happiness like love right you get to have

three children you love them if you're
thirty three children you love them but

we really have a satisfaction says because
satisfaction means that if you have

a great sandwich at lunch you're satisfied
with that meals not necessarily bored.

And what we have in our society is that
people are very very satisfied why

does most people have
fairly level in Cosmos.

So the person to person male picks up
garbage teaches kids who trail on that

salary is about the same at the end of
the day retirement is about the same now

what about the hedge fund guys we love our
national guys because right has struck.

So where will we got Russ makes ten
million pros turn it into dollars

makes ten million dollars we get
seven million so we love Wilbur and

will result in three million somehow
even get by on three million.

And so it's so the sense of the rich are
over there and they're not helping us and

they're disempowering us and worse for
screw because it is rich people

are sucking the life over to get this
this rich people are innovating and

they're bringing in more tax dollars of
that we can all share this somehow we

don't have that America
states we see their taxes.

But the effective tax rate for
a hedge fund manager.

Is getting a piece of
the ash from twenty percent.

Of the care so-called Kerry and.

Ordinary working people who are you know
there will be revealed in the thirty's so

one way to read about it really is to
really look at what we do with taxes and

tax evasion.

And isto see all taxation as evil and
something to be avoided how do we best use

taxation to stimulate every
American proud of my state every

done this with education.

One of the things that just
came out of his education and

I think that's so important to.

Quitting because.

You know you can't ask for agitate for a
plan for what you cannot start to imagine.

And I relate to this you know we were
talking over breakfast about how there

are some schools where it's boiled down to
the only kids who are going to the those

schools are the kids who are in the public
housing in that school district and

that's.

The only exposure they have and
the way now that.

We've tried to be equitable
in some ways where more.

Eighty S dollars go to the schools
that have students with lower income

at the same time that create some perverse
and that incentives a policy is so

important at the same time good policy and
in foreign policy is his key and

going back to this idea
of what can you imagine.

You know going back to my story
until I came here I had no idea and

that happens at so many scales.

From schools or in it maybe not
very well resourced but even.

You know those who are well but
never travel or

never expand their horizons
before Georgia Tech started its

international plan kind years ago I think
they have counted that about five per cent

of our students held
passports you know so.

Your horizon.

Can be broadened no matter
how much you know and

education and being exposed to broader
communities show graphically diverse

communities culturally diverse
communities is very important to

reach the goal of equity
because that's what.

Promotes informed participation in
addition to very good years but

if you for all.

You know patriotism policies
out to be an example or

you know my live daughters or
our developers.

One of the challenges who's.

Retailers are the services.

That every.

Household per capita.

And so we looked at lessons from around
the country Cargill treatment with one

interesting problem that was very I was.

Sitting right there to.

Work through that over
with we don't support.

And.

Bigelow thought they were
going to get first time home.

They're going to be relatively fixed in
terms of their payment their incomes are.

And so we've got to make these homes super
efficient so Bigelow provides guarantees

in Chicago that your summer cooling bill
be no more than three hundred dollars and

your winter fuel bill for
heating will be no one to fifty.

That's a pretty that's a significant
because what it means is it

is I'm not spending a thousand dollars for
the power company here and

that's been another seven hundred
fifty with the with the fuel supply So

I get you know over there I wasn't
dollars twelve hundred dollars so

a disposable income that I can handle.

So we can and that's another reason why
I think about that equity piece has to

think about how systems work and
how people actually live.

You know if you're a company just
a consulting project with a company and

they were fired your drivers to pay out of
pocket to make a service call rather than

provide them with a car and some of the
drivers really do was that they would go

back to the shop and not pay out of pocket
because they couldn't afford to wait

two weeks or a month to be reimbursed.

They were the bank for the company so

if people you've got to think about
what actually drives their decision and

how you can influence them to give
them something in that and so

existing abilities Dennis and his team in
South Asia we're close to the city for

that all the development
corporation there are see the funny

thing from the city understood
how to build over there.

Because that is an important part
you can't put people in the silicon

it's not your home is not efficient and
expect that to provide an outlet.

When you bashfully burdened with
a new set of cos they don't

they don't fit well with their lifestyle.

So I think it's a lot of understanding.

That there are differences in communities
between how people's incomes are.

And how they need to rear their survival.

And that's important as equity piece is
a lot of this is about where the very.

Stay said story is when you have a sense
of community you have a sense of awareness

you're more to the point the issues are
and how people actually who are here and

interact and what goes what impacts
what the real impacts are of their lives

not just so theoretical notion what
what what's important what changes and

lastly the perfect example of a policy
that runs counter to that every

city in America large city going
after Carmen dollars in tax credit.

And it was supposed to be about building
an economic base in these communities and

sell their tax credits were valued at
five billion dollars or something and

they'd never get close to them and
will base Well one reason and

number reason the one reason was
that if I was a horrible business

I think it might get an employee
tax credit altering hiring my son.

Or my wife or any family member so we
were essentially making it impossible for

a family owned business to
perpetuate itself with that benefit.

And so we make these policies that Candy's
consequences are really undermining some

of the very things we're trying to support
and so we have to be very thoughtful about

how we look at constructing these
these policies and programs.

Thank you we are running out of time and

I'm sitting here with
all these great Kurds.

So I want to turn it over to you.

To close us out with some final thoughts
and so what I'm going to do which

is not very nice is I'm just going
to tell you what these cards say and

then you can address at every line
your closing remarks are OK and

I'm very.

So one of the questions is.

It's something that we talked
about a little bit over breakfast.

Which is trying our Hollyhock in this work
in the his book The Ecology of Commerce

which is the argument that society should
fully engage our human capital first

before gauging every nation as we
sit here places like Georgia Tech

which has a lot of emphasis on
technological solutions how do we think

about how when you gauge human capital
ring forward so that's one of them.

Another that is somewhat similar is
what would your take action to be a full

partner in some of this work.

And then his other two are not really
related to those what is How do businesses

or institutions how can they really
become more sustainable themselves and

is a focus on individual behavior
change distracting from that you for

that kind of structural change my
institution's paraphrasing of Rahm.

Conveying the meaning of your cars and
then the final one which really goes back

to something retired about a while ago and
the phone call that we had with you about

a month ago is what are the implications
of the refugee crisis

over the long term for sustainability and
thinking about civil rights.

On cities in the Near East in your own.

Cell you have about five minutes
to cover access moving on.

Well first of all thank you both for

coming out this morning a lot of
different things can be doing.

A day like this it's not raining.

And sauced over the last first
because I think that that.

We haven't talked much about
by the destruction but.

It back of the number security analysts
national security folks who say that

troubles really got going in Syria because
of the intense travel lack of water

in order to grow food and
it is a society that when that happens

doesn't matter what's
tribal governance you.

That if it doesn't respond to that
program where you have serious trouble.

And so of what are the things about
sustainability that's really important.

Just talking about the height
of resilience you don't have

the Syrian experience you don't
have the Katrina experience.

Or when troubles current you can work
together as a society as everybody

the government is functional to
help people in those times and

if you have if you have that initiative
you respect everyone's dignity of

people have their rights and

the right there is a right to clean water
has a right to sanitation is a right path

with food that as human beings
are on this planet as a as a.

That's a right to.

Be an inalienable right for
life liberty pursuit of happiness and

yes Mr Jefferson's article he wrote so.

That's an important focal point and
it really ties in with Parker's

white about human capital of ahead.

Provider of capital and
it's not the robotic capital

the technology itself there's
something wrong with it those.

Robotic capital.

Our.

Capital capitals.

Letters us as human beings it
really empowers us we can do more

you know we can walk on our own
obviously bicycles faster cars even

faster airplane when they
run time is even faster.

So it's the right connection
of people with this technology

on you know in the fifty's or S.A.'s
who said what do we have to do with our

leisure time because the productivity
of the society is going up so

fast.

And yet what we've done
with that well we've turned

a very few number of people
into multi-millionaires.

Get a little system that if you have a
billion dollars you can run for president

on no matter what your personality and
I think.

We haven't shared.

We have appropriately shared.

And so that's what we're both
talking about we need to put people

putting people is not just to
work it's not just a J.O.B.

it's a life you do that if you work
forty hours a week you go to sleep.

At least another forty you spend a huge
fraction of your time in the workplace so

it was just a place here rushing in and
then you're punching out

that's not much fun it's doing something
you love that you care about and

almost always people who have jobs
are there where they love and

they care about they're doing something
help somebody else they're helping

people they're helping him and
they're helping the society grow.

In appropriate way so.

These two are really closely.

God and leader have a decision point.

Where it landed emergency actually
it's a slow moving thing right now but

there's as I mentioned last night there's
another C O two in the atmosphere

now to raise the season at sixty feet.

It will take a couple hundred
years to get there but

you know America is older than a couple
hundred years from imposters for

years so
what kind of future are we agree and

by the way before we get all that see
the only you know what we saw happen is

extreme weather makes anyone here
full of hundred South Carolina.

And we're here been through what's
going on in California wildfires in

Alaska alone there were three hundred
wildfires this year California fires

the climate disruption isn't coming
down the road we're in it now and

that's at eight tenths
of a degree centigrade.

And if we don't change our project every
We're looking for people say that it to do

research revise we're going to be safe
Well actually it's a fifty fifty chance

that we do relatively OK to decrease our
grain so I'll just close by saying Aren't

we need to come together as a community
on this and on a whole bunch of things.

People want to point to.

Certain industries such as fossil fuels
the climate deniers I say pretty much our

whole society right now second I'll about
the RISELEY face from Planet destruction

that the only way we'll
get through this will.

Civilization are nice place to
live as we work together so

perhaps thank you already got
these these kinds of questions and

I'm sure even larger you vote
on this that will be more of

an appeal.

For.

Calm.

Well I was asked to offer just a couple
of comments at the end first of all I

think we need all of our journey to
plan so we've got a break you want to.

Thank.

You know we all know the standard
something to say ability environment.

And I think you know our challenge here is
leaders in the sustainability community

is going to look better on the economy
we're doing better on the environment but

I think the equity portion of that three
legged stool This is not by luck and so

I would challenge all of this is leaders
in the sustainability discussion here

in our city to truly be
focused on on the equity.

To leave a curse it's all to share or
else to share their personal stories of or

share one of I think I
really get the equity.

Part of the passage of the twenty five
years ago we were helping Habitat for

Humanity build one of their
first green houses and

it was in a crawl space with
a group of habitat volunteers and

I'm doing you know those of you know I
was doing my normal thing I said yes as

insulation were put in here but in this
house more energy efficient is going to

say that three thousand kilowatt hours
a year out of the last three and said.

That you never miss
a chance to lecture and.

One of the volunteers there work with
the family services would have stopped and

said you know that's about how much
money it takes to feed a child for

the first six months here and that was so

much more effective in connecting
with the athletes than the three

hundred bucks that's going to go into
someone's family or the great comfort or

whatever from there she says she teaches
they're all important but again I think we

tend to short change the equity part
of the discussion I know this is a very

important part of south Ace's strategic
thinking on Ford for the next next.

Three years be disputed by every three
years this really how we focus more on

the actually for example we had a big
win here in Georgia last year passing

a solar financing bill which was great for
the first time in our state you're going

to be able to really solar but
at the same Julissa car cover machine but

who really is going to benefit from
from their new public policy we're

still good folks here in this room
it's not going to be our lower income

people who are going to have
the ability to do leasing ourselves so

how is it that we can make sure that all
of us are able to share the benefits

of the clean energy because I think that's
going to be a challenge that southeast is

trying to work with others I know in
Georgia Tech and elsewhere part that

everybody's side of just
clean energy here so.

The parents also mentioned
the importance of education connected

with the equity still sustainability but
I think all three legs of the stool and

so that's why we are always excited about
our partnership with Georgia Tech and

other institutions of higher learning here
and I just want to plug it once again our

sustainable and around table which
is the first Friday of every month.

And so we will be in November will
be talking about sustainability and

how higher education is help driving
it what some of the challenges are so

we would like to account for that at seven
thirty on that first Friday in the month.

And if you like Steve you got it for a
bigger does tonight a visionary dinner and

so if you are back playing because
we do have a few cities and so

we're looking forward to two I've
learned more from from Steve per

head if you don't listen to his
show this Sunday yet it isn't.

A living under it's a great great
program I know I always enjoy OK

thank you all for giving us your time here
today and thanks again to Georgia Tech for

being a great summer Thank you.