Today closure a day of siege and eat from well to give our breakfast club the world they know Sujan she came here in two thousand and four for the first two degrees were sold the National University in Korea and the from the University of Chicago. I didn't realize until I took a look at her C.V. that she did a little bit of a little school teaching back in Korea. I think and she also spent some time. It's unclear from her sleeve how much in Scotland. Personally it was enough to give or scholars an accent but I could try. I wanted to but you could you probably don't want to hear it. Yeah actually received about a year per year. Yeah and you know she came in two thousand and four rather ever as a colleague and the faculty and children. It's all yours. Thank you thank you thank you Barbara for this opportunity really it's really nice and James and Callie and everybody for organizing these and for wonderful breakfast. It's really nice. OK so I'm going to talk about one of my it's on for he my thing you know. I could try to yell and you got to hear me in the back. I try to yell. OK OK so I'm excited about. I'm excited to talk about one of my main research for side my lab about D.N.A. methylation and you know evolution so. So many of us in the room who may not be in evolutionary biology probably heard about the in a mass elation because it is one of the most important types over at the genetic modification. Epigenetic modification means chemically marking D.N.A. or teens and so on so that the cell can regulate. In addition to the information already in the codes and D.N.A. methylation is really widespread in or the three domains of life founded bacteria you carry out. And also in archaea although it's not clear if the archaea one is or isn't it there or it was literally transferred and not talk about one type of D.N.A. methylation which is site of sin D.N.A. methylation OK it's we all know there's four bases and one of them side to send looks like piece and the enzymes that puts Matthew groups D.N.A. method trance brace. Puts the method group through the five position. So instead of eight. Now you have C.H. three and this is the template. OK And this on your curves for C. right next to G. in that direction. So these nucleotides are called the C.P.G. so only see and C.P.G. are messy lady. And this is the predominant model of D.N.A. methylation in animal genomes in plants there's maybe some other ways for example they use a C. and G. so and means any of the four bases but it enabled you notice it's most almost exclusively a C.P. G. and this makes analysis for us easier than otherwise. So there are many studies going on about the role of D.N.A. methylation and the emerging theme from these studies is that D.N.A. metal ations acts as a silence or dimmer of the expression. OK. The actual mechanism how it does it is still debated and we have a couple of slides. Describing some mechanisms but basically the in a methylation can silence. Gene expression. And it can almost all play a role in combating complexion. And it can suppress recommendation between transposable elements with the deep sequences and because of these things these are related to stability. OK. Or Soul D.N.A. methylation is the Maybach an ism how one of the X. chromosomes is silenced in females also plays a role into only imprinting by putting method group in C. you can distinguish between C. versus method of C.. So not only you have full basis but you have auditioner information and you can distinguish this way tool ears from father and mother and that's how this is only imprinting words. So these are all or function or aspects of D.N.A. methylation that has been widely studied in a million models human and mouse basically But another important aspect of the I.M.S. lation which is not only is appreciated by molecular biologists is the fact that it could always use mutations and is actually a main force or main source of be tensions in animal genomes. And if you close mutations it leaves evolutionary signature. So it is a very important source of genome evolution as well and I'm going to show you what I mean by that. First let's see how methylation code just be patient. So this is the methylation that I've shown already so ciders and gets methylated becomes method side of sin and this molecule is chemically unstable. OK so it loses. I mean group in here very quickly by spontaneous chemical reaction. No enzyme is necessary in this step. So this step occurs very quickly and then when you lose time in here and you. Insult to what America was or become oxen instead I mean then the Chemically it's equivalent to a time in so what we have that what they have done what he or what baddies here is that the cyber same became so I mean by methylation and the I mean NATION. OK So see to T. retention has occurred and this occurs very frequently now D.N.A. repair and repair mechanism Shute take care of this but it's not very efficient because T. is naturally found in the genome and it doesn't always distinguish between the T. that is mismatched versus T. that is should be the real T.. So this is even go with you need repair exists for just mechanism because theses so regularly occurring there are still a lot of mutations that goes through the next generation that generate from this process. So basically C. to T. mutation a C.P.U. sites we create a T C C P C to T.P.C. or in the reverse triangular B.C.P. to C.P.A. So we started to teach ins are called a C.P.C. mutations. OK. And these are really the major source of mutations in animal genomes. I've done some work in my lab to see how often these invitations are curved compared to other C. to a T. or G. to a beautician. And we have shown that it's about fifteen times higher than the norm or transitions. And in other anymore texts are there is a wide Brian's variety of estimates but everybody estimates there listen although magnitude greater than the norm or be patience. And in the genome sequencing paper it was shown that one quarter over point to be between human and some Pencey has occurred at C.P.T. sites. So you can appreciate how important these mutations are in animal genomes including our own. And I want to. Consequences of this process is that many C.P. This will change the T. P.G.. In other words disappears this will be eliminated from the genome. So if you look at for example human genome. We don't see a lot of C.P.G. sexually because there or change it to T.P.C. or C.P.A. or some point and then went to other because our process is so D.N.A. methylation will in effect to reduce the frequency of the piece directly or tight and this is an important property they will be using in the next steps. So in my let me have been analyzing the influence of genome in methylation on evolution for a few years now and we have several other directions we have pursued. We have shown that methylation improves no molecular clock and also affects competition and evolution. Now recently we have started looking into the function or aspects of the M.S. lation and employs them to the evolution. So these are the two papers that we have submitted and focusing these days and I'm going to talk about these two today. So let's first talk about mess lation and I was an Alberta Ripper Border's the rest of the talk I'm going to introduce one measure to you need to know and that is normalize the P.C. contents or I say C.P.C. only for simplicity C.P.C. always a simple matter that basically is the ratio of services to normalized so if you have a lot. And you have a lot of methylation. And you. Timescale suppose you owe your bed to the lower than G.'s that has not experienced a lot of D.N.A. methylation So there's this relationship and you need to remember this and this property has been noted early on by a bird in nine hundred eighty. OK. So if you look at the human genome then most of C.P.G.. Are less elated. Most of time. OK so it isn't epigenetic modification so it can in principle change between tissue types and developmental stages and it does but for them was the pieces for about eighty percent of cities. For eighty percent of tissues they're usually methylated. OK. Now because of this the human genome has generally much fewer surprises than expected. How few so this is the distribution of C.P.C. O.E. in that you know make reasons. OK so if you look at these then the mean is about point two means that about twenty percent. Expect a sickly G.'s are present in the human genome and this is basically everywhere. OK. And these methylation is called Global D.N.A. methylation in other words in the human genome. If you look at anywhere. It's basically methylated and is reduced to what paves what is expected. Now there is one exception and very important exception to this rule and that is the promoter reasons. OK so a promoter reasons some of them are less lead it's all there are not methylated and indeed this is what. Regulates the expression in the case of humans. So generally speaking it promotes our methylated then the expression is silence. And there are many hypotheses how either curse. No one idea is that message site or since can recruit specific proteins. Metal binding Domaine protests and these proteins make themselves inhibiting expression or they recruit other protein complexes that will make the quality of structure more compact and make it less accessible to transcription factors and so on. So these are some different theories why math leisure promoters were reduced in expression but the point is that metal original promoters can repress transcription and many promoters are generally methylated but also as many that is not less lady. OK So genes that is expressed in most of tissues are broadly expressed Ians those parameters are not less lady and it makes sense because you want to have the genes expressed in most issues. So the promoters of early hypo methylated while genes that express in specific manner in the printed issues are different developmental stages. And they tend to be methylated So there is this distinction promoters. And this is reflected if you look at the distribution of secrets in the promoters then what we see is these very clear by modality. So there's two. Distributions. One with about mean about point two just like the rest of the day you know. OK but the other one has high C.P.C. only meaning that there's a lot of C.P.D. is compared to the rest of the genome and close to the expected value of one K. and if you look at what are these genes then these correspond to two methylated promoters of tissue space big dreams and these correspond to broadly expressed housekeeping genes. So there is the structure and function of my modality in the human genome and I would like to call this curbing the lower C.P.C. part as low C.G. meaning low C.P.C. promoters and high for A.T.C. for Hyslop is a pro bowlers. OK. And as I talked about they are distinct from. So how is it was a promoter there is no social read readily express trains and associated with specific chains. OK One more thing that a lot. Broecker confuse sometimes is that knowing high C.P.C. promoters a lot of us they're in tech because they're not subject to D.N.A. methylation and imitation of decay. So there's many surprises many more surprises than the rest of the genome and these are often called C.P.C. islands. So it's the eighty C.D.'s that's associated with the P.C. islands. OK. OK so. Even though this promoted by a model of the has been noticed before. As I said most of the focus on human and mouse models and there is no idea of how this by mobility evolved and what has closed and when did it evolve so we started asking these questions. And I thought this is related to the distribution of methylation in animal genomes which is really not very were known right now. So this is one anywhere follows a so anywhere follows is a mess. It's really not. But this is one type. So let's us orient ourselves humans and mouse belong to the chordates with Board of Rights or border like structures and the others are other anywhere's and this is really very old followers and I mean the depth of fallen is easier easily graded a billion years now except chordates the methylation in these other any mercy is not really where understood and it was not very well studied either. Now the reason for that is that two modern species in animals. Soft and C. elegans in them do not have been in methylation like a bird of rates so people are thought OK methylation don't exist in insects or nematodes in other species and maybe it's not so important. So it was now. Not studied very much. And even if you look at reviews like published last year this year. They are say in any other animal as metal is usually absent or scars and I'm going to show you that it's not true today. OK but first of all let's focus on chordates So according to its Are those like vertebrates and also species likes sea squirts which is a very primitive. Bird or like structure it's not really vertebrates but it's our ancestor records and this is other insects so distant invertebrates we don't know the methylation pattern but we do chordates we have some idea. So the ancestor Corday So you're not interested in Pest analysis a cease fire. Many of you are not Nobody looks like this and in Korea we see sport and we just say that maybe Nazi or not by some other species and it's tasty. Anyway if you look at sea squirt the methylation paren is patchy. And I show you what I mean by that. In both the greats like humans and other vertebrate species the message is a global and there's other important differences as we have seen in humans methylation is everywhere. Does not distinguish between genes and into regions or in trans except some promoters it does distinguish now in C. or not it has been shown that methylation is a little genes. It's your perspective and again I show you what it is one of the other very interesting difference is that in Siona transportable elements are not an isolated while in humans transposable elements are heavily methylated And actually because of these observation. Some people propose that global methylation occurred because it wasn't the we needed to suppress the you know wide transposable elements. So that's one theory but it's not the case it's the sport. So. If you look at C.R. Now case I'm going to show you what is a pet's methylation So this is by other birds a group and published last year early research. So this is the gene model and then they have a look that the percent of us ladies C P G's. So it's a hundred. That is methylated people it's a zero it's not methylated So I've just shown you rid of blocks the thread is methylated and blue is not methylated So let's look at these two model. So they did body is methylated And then if you go into an equation or promoters it's not really methylated again if you look at these genes and these new can compare these students are methylated in between the reason is not methylated Now let's look at these two genes. They're next to each other but one is mass lady. I mean not mess lady and one is methylated So there's two things that's very obvious one. Methylation is really for genes including enjoins and two somethings are not met little somethings are methylated Now if we looked at over the genes and also. Promoters then it looks like these so genes are some of their methods on the methylated So if you look at the gene then you have these two curves the lower one reply acting methylated genes and the high one reflecting not methylated genes. It's a similar to the promoter by a modern human except this case it's happening in the gene bodies and if you look at the promoter reasons. It looks like this it's around one and it's more than winning that it's not methylated So again this reflects that you know make the end I methylation patterns. OK And if you remember. Well you have seen earlier in the talk. This is the complete opposite of what you see in humans. So I put them together like this. So if you look at a gene model like this in humans. You have complete methylation of the into. And these high and low promoters in the promoters why this is reversed. So one of the projects we did is that try to determine when this occurred and also we want to know how the switch happened. So we looked at several that were available at that point with patients so we looked at zebra fish. Frogs and office chicken and human and compare to see or not. And also we looked at other inward such as a kind of them to see or chance which is a little over here where we have seen is that C. or not in C. or most look like this while it is reversed in the vertebrates OK so the switch has occurred very early on invertebrate evolution would be two P. for the divergence of the fish and and other vertebrates OK So let me just point out several things here. So you can see that they look like by model but I've learned not to trust my eyes when I do analysis so we do some statistical really see. It is not yet my We're going to basically find the best fit. Best Fit distribution model and tested the fits using. What you would raise your test. And it is true that for all the vertebrates and interest and another interesting point is that the low one is always similar to this one. So these are in different scales to two and this is a poor one. But if you look at this then the lower one is always similar to the intra human if you look at the low A C G S E Z promoters have been about point two equivalent to the mean. And we also look at their functional differences. So in humans. These are. It's been shown that the C.Z. promoters correspond to teachers Bisbee Perseus broadly expressed genes. So we decide Look at that and because there is not good data in other species we've said look at us today. Talbot's is also a very good indication of the space based game and basically for older for bird or a species the M.C.G. always have lower. Tissues that they're expressed in other words they're more tissue specific than A.T.C.C. and these are statistically highly significant. So again in older species. Specific genes are hyper mess lady and probably express genes are hyper methylated OK So they are functionally distinct So based upon this we propose a model how we can explain that the by move the promoters every ball so we think that what happened is that the promoter ancestry was a unique situation with no methylation around one and then the global methylation happen and global level Asian will push this curve to herd lower side because of mutation decay of C.P.G. OK with the use of surprise you. And why this is happening. This can be delivered here is poor. Genes who has to be expressed in a variety of tissues. Because if the promoters are methylated then. They the expression is down. So that's pushed up for those promoters that are required to be expressed in a broader issues. So for broadly express the housekeeping. We think that's a lesson is preserving the high C.P.C. content and as a result the balance of between these has created by modalities So this is our hypothesis and we see proven true or not. And there are a couple of studies in the literature that looks like supporting our hypothesis. So there is a paper in Nature Genetics and seven by Weber at Target. And what they have done is that they've looked at surprising methylation of human genius about twenty thousand ins and they're experimentally tested methylation level and they also compared to the Pennsy using rest as much as an article to see how often C.P.C. is lost. Now in their study they divided into three classes or city A to city and intermediate but statistically it's not really significant but anyway they they did that but if you just look at compare seduce and eighty cities. OK then. Now this is the last opposite P.G. and last is much higher in a city or a C.P.S. their core promoters than an eighty CD. While game is almost identical in the three promoters in other words if you do the losing C.P.G. quickly more quickly than a two seater like we predicted so I think it's supporting our practices another study was published an M.B.E. in this case they will look bad. Human and mouse promoters using dogs as an outgroup. And I have to say this follows is not always. Not always true sometimes doc knows inside. We know the mouse but anyway for this paper it's not so important. OK so when they look at C.P.C. loss and gain promoters using these false names. What they see is that tissue specific genes tend to lose C.P.C. again as we predicted. So I think so far we have only supports and hopefully our hypothesis can be proven so from these observations. We concluded that deliberate promoters are by more though and it is because this is a form that you two mutation or decay pieces which is caused by the global methylation. What A.T.C. the promoters have avoided mutational decay by natural selection and those remain high C.P.G. and form disappearance. So that is our current hypothesis. OK so I'm going to switch gears and then go to more invertebrates. And this is a paper we just submitted recently. And waiting to hear from them. OK so let's. So hear about talk about honeybees. OK So let me run through again that. It was understood until really recently and to even now. The many people think that methylation is not very prevalent in animal genomes because the two mother species C. elegans and. Do not have D.N.A. methylation Well it was a big surprise when they sequence the honeybees and found that. Methylation enzymes are there in the honeybees in arms. So if you see already enzymes then maybe it's there. So they'd say look at a few genes and they found that sixty NS they were able to show experimentally that these genes on the road D.N.A. methylation. So this was a big surprise in published in Science in two thousand and six. So this has prompted other people to look at the presence of methylation enzymes in diverse and emerge in arms. So I'm going to show you that. But before that. Let me just remind you what are the methylation enzymes. So in humans. It looks like these. So there are three classes or three. Families of D.N.A. method trance price at the end of the one two and three there we have three of the three. Now one. Heritable D.N.A. methylation So it basically copies did in medicine inclination from parents to the children and unity. Does the new. D.N.A. methylation. Now this guy has to do. Domain which is highly conserved and domain but people don't know what that is to actually what people have no idea what the empty two is doing but it doesn't seem like it's related to heritable order nobody any less lation So it's doing something as well we don't know what it's doing. But the main is capable of massive transfer rates. So it is including the D.N.A. must address brace. If you look at the distribution of these enzymes in animal genomes it looks something like this. OK so here mammals and humans as we have shown there is one of one and two and three. And in C. elegans there is none in two. But as I said because it's not clear what it is doing. People didn't think there was the less lation In fact if you look at it it's around one everywhere. So there's no signature of D.N.A. methylation So these two people have generally seen and compared to mammals and now we have more genomes. So we have a fuller picture. OK so the honeybee have over three and there's a tool one. Of the and the one and the human head lice that sometimes goes epidemic and then make parents go crazy also have or three. OK And recent studies there was a recent study that showed that actually in C. elegans there is none but a close relative. P pacificus another nematode has damaged two so maybe it got last year and maybe the last you know in the fourth somewhere. We don't have any closer. We don't know what's going on here. But if you look at insects. It almost looks like perhaps he was last in here rather than. Gain. In here. So it's not clear and we have to have more data to really see. But the point here is that just based upon the enzymes that these three vision of them. It looks like methylation may be prevalent in insect genomes. So we decided to look at the honeybees you know more detail see what is going on. So as I said in earlier study they found these enzymes and they tried to find what genes are methylated and they found six. Now as I've shown that we have this mess. Those distribution so we said Look at that and see if some sleeve evolution is signatures. So the questions we asked are what is the parent of methylation honeybee. Is it pets are global. Or does the fugitive's OK. And also we want to see what are the role of D.N.A. methylation and there were some hypothesis before so we want to check these things and talk about this in more detail later. So let's first look at the paradox norm again unless lation really used to do so again in this case and this is what we found. OK so if you look at the soft luggage it's just a union. But if you look at honeybee you have this clear Bible Delhi again reminiscent of where they were promoters or see on our genes and these arrows are those genes that was found in earlier study to be less lady with C.G. It's really predict to be less lady. OK so it looks like a lot of genes are methylated it's actually roughly half and half half last two and half belongs to a T. Sity OK so. So we think that reflects best laded genes and a to C.-Z. reflect not methylated Janus and so far the genes that we know to methylated support the distinction. We also analyzed transposable argument and there's not there may transposable element that's annotated in honeybees you know. But the modern argument is. So if you look at modern element the C.P.C. or use a wrong one meaning that it's probably not less lady. OK So this actually is very similar to what we have seen as. So we think that the methylation pattern in honeybee is likely to be patchy so some design methylated and some things are not in question. That's an excellent question. KING I knew when I asked that. Yes absolutely. So if you look at this the meat of the low carb is about forty five the meat of the high is actually about one point five So what I think is happening is there's other mechanisms to increase. H.C.G. and I think it's related to the fact that these genomes are really low to see cotton. So the content of these guys about twenty percent. So if you just follow. If you just a tiny percentage see that you have a really of only a few C.P.C. you expect there were four percent of the genome would be in C.P.G. so to prove preserve the high C.P.C. cut then I think there's a lot of the past in conversion. That's upwardly forcing the C.P.C. or you'll be eighty cities. That's that's my suspicion. OK. So what is the role of D.N.A. methylation so to infer this we first look at if these two proteins in these two categories have different function and patients. And if you look at the it's basically says. And there are many significant enrichment in eighty cities and fewer significant enrichment cities but the petard really is very very clearly very clearly different so genes in as you do use are really. These categories like translation biosynthesis and response to D.N.A. damage while genes in eight cities are all related to settler communication singer transduction and more importantly system or organ or cellular development. OK. And these are all highly in weights in eighty cities. So we can sort of broadly classify them as housekeeping and developments best fit for eighty cities. Good to talk about another implication of D.N.A. less lation and it's function in honeybee and this is sort of a really exciting sort of new ideas. So I might not take a small detour to talk about what is so interesting about honeybees now honeybees and our social insects are really interesting because of their you know to be plasticity there's are like mother system for now to be plasticity Now what I mean by that is that. Let me just point to you that you know if you compare versus worker. These are both premier honeybees and very have the same genomes. But they are so different in terms of you know and not only that in terms of labor so workers do work and queens reproduce and they have completely different development so workers who have only been run and ovaries and so on and queen has of course for reproductive system and other aspects of social behavior is really standing out as an extreme case of bequests use the and when people are first found out about the an escalation in honeybees before it's got excited and because so different from Grisoft. There were some hypothesis that perhaps the methylation relate to the you know to be plasticity in social insects. Which is clearly different from the soft. And there was a paper. You see here that has really shown this may be the case in science. So in this paper what the authors did it did it is that they knocked down demented three D. nubile D.N.A. method trance price. Now if you do not do the knockdown then most of the larvae develop into workers and some of them becomes queen lice or if you knock down the most of the lobby becomes Queens. OK. And these queens actually had fully developed ovaries and so on. In other words if you remove a mass lation then the honeybee becomes Queens. Even though it was supposed to be workers. So in other words we conjecture that D.N.A. metal the metal ration. Crispness big genes will generate workers lives. OK. And by reversing the that mechanism we have seen the development of like meters and there was another paper that have. Sort of a survey. How prevalent is the only D.N.A. methylation in this Hymenoptera and basically this shows that there are some appreciable proportion of D.N.A. methylation in Hymenoptera many of them are social insects. So this has got to make people as well as it's very excited thinking that perhaps in a mess. Lation is the mechanism that genomes use to regulate you know to be plasticity because remember you know to be plussed is most likely to be related to it in expression and that's lation is. The effort mechanism that you can use to really regulate expression of different genes. OK So then based upon this idea. We have to predictions. One is that. Because if you mess liquid specific genes you develop work a few types were proposed to that. Christmas picture should be preferentially in eighty cities. Now another way of thinking about this is that if you think there are some genes that can be easily manipulated between different types. Then they should be generally in A to city because they should not be methylated by death for methylation them off those and so on a specific and types. So we also propose that test perspicuous should be also an agency. And I would like to really test this hypothesis with more data. So there's one sort of data set that look that expression the cross between versus worker from adult brain tissue. It's from growth into our paper. So we looked at the distribution of cities and eighty cities school districts. Now let's go through this diagram together. So the lap panel is poor and ripe and is poor eighty cities. And this is the ratio between two worker. So it gets a bob. Zero then it is more expressed in Queens below zero is more expressing workers. It's in the local scale. OK And this gray area is where we contributed as sort of no significant difference. OK So in this area genes are basically similarly expressed between Queen and workers. And above this gray area is big and below this grey area is worker specific OK. So our hypothesis is that the police Presbyterians should be more in the A to city compared to the workers perspective is distribution and we can test this by for example Fisher's exact test. OK And it is sort of marginally significant so I have to see if it's true or not with more data. OK Now the second prediction was that cast perspective and should be more trouble in the cities and in this. Case we've got very clear signal that it is definitely more in the weeds in as it is. If you look at Caspar speak to. They look like this and they are almost similar or even more which is highly significant. We also looked at literature for genes that was known to be specific and we found twenty eight cases and twenty two of them are eighty cities so the second condition seems like it's a standing. Pretty from the. OK So to conclude that this part while we have seen is that the parent of D.N.A. methylation in honeybees Petty and the majority of them are methylated half and half are methylated and the role of D.N.A. methylation at the first look. It does not look like it's silencing transposable elements. But many transcripts many housekeeping are in. So maybe it is to make sure that there is no spurious transcription of housekeeping genes and also it is related to pretty specifically Casper speaking a to see this compared to other cities. So these are our conclusions prom honeybees you know when Alice says we have many other directions that going on in the lab relate to these issues. So we're refining the boundary between the promoter by modality versus by looking at species in the order in word of evolution. So recently. Is almost completed and it's it's accessible so we're looking at that as we read analyze N.P.R. which is another closely related ancestor according to Bill of Rights. And we plan to analyze other invertebrate. Using competition or an experimental analysis for the evidence of D.N.A. methylation and I'm very excited. I have to say the second part is collaboration with Mike and also we plan to do more experiments methylation in social insects. So it's right up. And in memos at least we know that is directly correlated with an expression level. And nobody knows if it's the case or not in social insects. So really look at this and also stemming from our observation. We will tell whether different cats show different levels of D.N.A. methylation I think that concludes my study. So these are called those and collaborators the most the work is done by my student and Brandon hunt and then people are working on aspects of some of these or some other projects. So I wrote their names but most of them had to leave for classes. And then some funding. So thank you very much. Yeah. I see so you're basically asking if maybe you specifically knock down the silence for example metabolism. That's an excellent question. Instead of really it's working to the plasticity now to answer this question. No you know really old age is that in a honeybee and see if any of them are different from for example Siona right because it's you and I has these pets methylation it also has probably been knocked down the tubes and not methylated methylated And but they don't have like soldier behavior. So we have looked at it briefly and what we see is that both you and I and honeybee have similar genes as you G.'s as images and cities so. So further studies are needed by my suspicion is that. Now another way of answering your question is also to see if similar is a meth lady in nonsocial or insect species. OK so if you look at insect species there's nonsocial yet she has distiller paranoia methylation and the same desire not done the same to knock down then I think it proves the idea that maybe the evolution of her peepee plasticity is secondary rather than the first push toward the evolution of D.N.A. methylation Do you agree. So we are looking at this using likeness on your genomes right now and my suspicion is it's and I'm really a little bit but we have to say yes. We're all words so that is a very good question. So here now we're talking about the definition of sort of housekeeping. OK So we sort of were starting area bird study. So if you're a bird when they look at they say that skipping. And when they start housekeeping that is the Janes that is intermediately all all expressed by being brought tissues now in humans when we say House committees or regions that's highly expressed in many of the tissues now in humans many opinions that are highly expressed are broadly expressed because these two are expressing a level of paranoia strongly call it as you know. But is it the case since Yoda. Actually we don't know at all. So when I say housekeeping is your eye or insects. It's we don't know the expression level but it looks like a basic cellular processes. So that's sort of a loose definition right here. Yeah yeah yeah. She's OK we know a little really look foolish. But yeah that's a really great question a lot. So you know but that's what's Yeah I mean I can tell you a little bit about it. So for example be so this epigenetic Siegel's the interesting part of it is it can be stimulated by environment. So you know you have a problem. We get from the genome. But you can mark some cities with massive holes or other things based when Barack you saw the honey bee experiment for example you know the honeybee Queens become just because they like royal jelly. So they produce influences in this case hypo methylation you don't have a lot of dishes and you have hyperbole. You don't express a lot of genes don't develop very well like in humans. I'm sure it is a problem because we know that the prince and the ration if anybody penetrations you grow a lot of you grow less. Probably all episode response. So. There's a lot. Related to evolution is another question and I don't think many people really know the answers. But. I think so. A couple of years ago there were just studies and plans in the US for example that you know you find this recurrence of these new phenotype there is not in the genome at all. So some people it was in its nature and I don't know if you've disproved I don't think so. Yet what people suggested is that like for example we keep our grandparents are a day or some chemical signals as a form of R.N.A. some are in the genome so that was the hypothesis in that report plants but what I'm trying to say is that this is completely unknown area but I think there's these possibilities that some kind of may be kept in the genome. But again I am just really speculating here. Yes I would like to know but you know what. Well that's a good question. So I'm not sure what kind of transpose of elements are genomes but when we looked at for example. In the human genome. So we can look at the end elements reprimands and separately. Then they are all methylated except there are levels of methylation is different. So this could be a possibility. Actually I haven't looked at it but. OK Thank you.