One question that I was asked last night that I had a piece start this morning as no one knew. At the end of the day what are we going for. And. While you know a little bit more about what would your proof pay for your post or the thing that I want to emphasize to ground. The takeaways from today. Are two things basically one we will have created it a network or say caught short but to hopefully we would have brainstormed ourselves into a design that we can go forward with already. As I was saying last night one of the things that I know is that with work is as complex as the work that we're trying to do there is no way that any one person organization can do everything it needs to be done so it really begs for collaboration and that's what we're going to try to do but it also begs for an evidence based approach and experience based approach and a collective entity that says these are the pass that we find by which we can connect ourselves and it grants the total price everybody so I think end of the day we want recommendations we want suggestions we want I did is we want that the casing gaps that we can on this court is try to. Crack together in. The sort of design that was a permit our pilot that we were running in the summer in August September remember we get kind of point of synergy that works so that week. Can. Put together something that people would know that you're not wasting your time. So people are doing interesting reading on times of places. We want to connect the dots in a way that Vance's the whole project now if you look in your fog or you can see that we have made the first step toward. Developing that landscape and that we have a student actually who Poti gather the list of organisations that have come forward as people who are already doing face in the area obviously this is not all it is just a first stab but we want to be crystal clear about who's doing what where what kinds of resources are available what kinds of experiences are being. Or what kinds of stakes are we putting in the ground how are we connecting women who are interested in doing this kind of work Alison they maximize their talents and find their task is to do you need to do so this is step one. If you want us to that's based on some group that you know let us know and we are creating a database fluid which we will collect with us. So that's why we also have some genuine who has agreed to do our first country. Evidence gathering and so she will be able to talk about that a little bit later as if you have information to share about how we can really be why clear about what we know and what we don't know so that we don't spend our times replicating days or doing things that are really. Part of the passport we don't want. Busywork we won. So with that said out I hope that the day goes exactly as we play and which means that we don't have a way of predicting what's going to come out what we predict is that really amazing things will come out and we won't do that but there are people here this morning who were not here last night so I'm going to ask you to introduce yourselves. And very short fashion because we have a lot of folks and I don't want to spend all of our time in introductions but we need to know who we are and we have to name tags Esther for just. OK. OK so I will look we'll get those passed around so we can put the name tags on you know the other thing that ours have to say is that my brain is full I remember nothing and so it helps if I have a name tag to remind me of things and I know I remember faces I remember no names so do get your name tag on however you want to be referenced across the day so that we have some way of respect each other rather than hey you and me OK So Karen we start to now why don't we start with you. Name place. Short. All the way from Ethiopia and I want to try to make it work while. I'm a man do not want to come Hello I was based para Clark Atlanta a very. The last June back home I own the business a construction company and also I'm a partner and a director for a multinational I think turnkey solution company called the can maestro. Morning My name is Cal sailors I work with Coca-Cola step process streets I'm just from here in Atlanta and I'm a part of that women's laying business resource for you. I'm from China little C.E.O. of quantum leaps which is the global summer reader for women soccer for inertia and we mapped the ecosystem for women some dripper nerd shop in various countries and also focus on innovation with women owned firms I live in Vietnam my organization is U.S. headquartered. Hi My name is Tice Morgan and I work for Coca-Cola in strategy planning and development food service so right around the corner I'm also part of women's lib which is a business resource group for generating empowerment and leadership and women with an optimization. For morning to Mr Vice President of Marketing development for I.B.M. and I'm responsible for marketing to businesses that are owned by asians blacks Hispanics Native American and women American influence businesses around the world to ensure they understand how to leverage technology to accelerate the growth of the businesses. That. Morning on the Sunday live blog in addition to owning white oak kitchen and cocktails and mags. I'm a C.P.A. receive my M.B.A. from Cal states that come and go I have done a lot of business planning and with my work. Our way a lot of is this plan working with not only women international groups coming to Atlanta so I hope you'll be. Good morning my name is just I'm sure I'm with Polish capital or an early stage Excel or. An investor program launching a three month Excel reader programs for a wide range of different verticals all across the world we support under-represented demographics and entrepreneurship by helping them address the inherent bias sees in me and for capital as they stand. Having the entrepreneurs actually vote on each other as to where capital goes once they've come through our program we've supported four hundred fifty entrepreneurs over the past five years and are anxious to continue more of our work in Africa. Good morning I'm sure you can con I've worked all over the world at all levels of government business and civil society I've worked extensively with women entrepreneurs in Afghanistan. And I'm looking forward to participating today. Good morning I'm Andrea Ayres and I'm I'm with Coca-Cola on the food service strategy and development team and also part of women think. Of my name I mean is Cujo coming from South Africa representing the grass on the shelf trust we have a program under the women's rights unit which program my major rough. Network of African business women and what we do is we try and we try and get women associations to come together to take up advocacy issues and at the same time we have been to the entrepreneurs the promise the entrepreneurs within them and the capacity to go especially under represented industries and women not see. A very good morning. Jim it's about. I decided and I'm happy. And I. Ended up with a group and Company which is consistency. And mind. YOU THANK YOU. Good morning when I was a Richard sworn I run the U.C. Berkeley program on innovations in entrepreneurial finance which is a really fancy way of saying growth on the outer edge of finance I also wrote The World Bank report on the potential of problem for developing economies also technical advisor to the Bill Gates Foundation and also an advisor to the Rockefeller Foundation Aspen Institute for program and had my first trip to Africa in August and working for you so I'm new to Africa refuse but I've been dealing with access to capital entrepreneurship exhilaration for many years and also different or August of one. Of them is Harper McConnell in the Eastern Congo Initiative I live in D.C. but just came back from up a little over eight years living in Congo we work with smallholder farmers primarily in coffee and cocoa and several other export cops ensuring that we're building small businesses with access that finance and access to premium markets. That morning I'm Santeria Sampson I'm a founder Bob paternity and as I said last evening when I introduced myself what we're quickly finding out is that educational advocacy is so important so as a woman tending to this and then to determine some of the thing that we need so we could have that wisdom information and education passed along to young people these are two of my young people over here my daughter Princess I told her to come I want you to listen to the women. On be inspired and determine what you can do is your part in the world my nine year old his name is lively it's his birthday today. Thank you thank you. But as a male I want him to start early to be able to listen and respect women listen to women and determine some of the needs. Would you. Write me Sampson and I. Started for high growth companies so two of them and my wife and I know some started a small angel for one and we've also. It was three African heads of state and government and that was our connection to maybe originally as we'll sit opposite for most of the latest will be making a nomics which launched the platform to deal with. Poverty in the wealth gap particular in America announced expanded that evolve into a platform which then we lost the opportunity of which today is a multi campus we have two campuses here in Atlanta where we do co-working career celebration. And some incubation of the of the of the companies that are there fifteen years ago. I was probably one of the only black tech cult founders in Atlanta that actually had received funding the Iraq people have started businesses with those who have actually gone through the pipeline receive funding. Today when we count how many black and female black males and black B. males today in Atlanta that have received some form of capital or probably less than ten in jail is one of them and we can count the rest I'm so in a fifteen year period there really hasn't been an increase in the pipeline it's also an opportunity that we want to progress how this conversation about of the burst of inclusive pipeline can actually be actually created and materialize and that's why Woodside parter. Good morning everyone my name is Monica McCoy and I'm also with the Coca-Cola Company I'm doing two jobs right now my daytime job is working with them national food service marketing as a senior manager channel claim in developing that my final job is working with women flank where we are planning a great conference for the year to address issues that women are facing in the workplace not just from a domestic perspective but from an international perspective also so we'll be addressing them partnering with our five by twenty initially have with the International Women's Forum and with our Global Women's Initiative So we have a lot of great things on coming down the pipeline and we're hoping to be able to partner with you all in August some this great initiative that we have. Good morning my name is Terry McAuliffe I wait for time tech entrepreneur with successful exits fifteen years ago co-founded Idea Village in New Orleans which was one of the originally baiters mix of the Raiders and still going strong today I have a company that works with incubators and accelerators and economic development I am gladly a senior advisor and mentor at opportunity hope I think there's real impact going on and a real need for what's going on in that community I sit on the board for a company the village capital made possible with their initial fifty thousand dollar investment in four years later that company is doing exceedingly well I like long walks in the park and big work and with entrepreneurs. Good morning I'm content the car from the Coca-Cola Company is the way I work in a global ID project management office dealing with our governance and our solution delivery process bridging the gap with our technology across the we're all within integration also member of women's link working on. Work life in gauging man and a member of a network of executive women which focuses on the advancement of development of women in the retail consumer goods and services space. Good morning everyone I'm Pamela and I do work for Coca-Cola and their public affairs and Communications Group my job at Coke is working with women claimed I'm the chair of the Corporate Education Committee. I'm a name is John Senator I'm part of the I'm your an accelerator and crude school which is now the largest go to school in the U.S.. So that's my start of the other startup is married ten years and I have two beautiful girls. Eight and four I'm excited to be here because software is eating the world and really changing the world fundamentally and I think there are a lot of opportunity to bring code education not just of course you have the U.S. but internationally in really cost effective ways. Thank you good morning my name is Michael that are him and I'm the president of Ghana and I thank you look coming it's really exciting to be here we've tracked connect for you the past week at the events I mean Atlanta and I'm really excited to be in this group because as we focus on half of the moon African women also have half of the pollution so we focus on business they think to myself and also how to build that women in Africa. When economy I'm excited. Good morning my name is Adrian Johnson retired after twenty five years with the Coca-Cola company and my husband and I well my husband's retired also from Concord College and we started our two businesses one is a demand for resale boutique in the bucket we have a consignment store but the most important one is we haven't been equal connections were we do micro funding of programs for African women we started working with a local bottle in Liberia and we created we started with one hundred women we put them in business Coca-Cola came. I'm in over the top and they brought in part of the job at twenty so that number is gone from one hundred women to five hundred women in the year I think it's it we're going to have fifteen hundred. We also do training and mentoring for the women we also work in Ghana and South Africa and I would just like to say I think this is a fantastic group and it's amazing to be in the Rome and I didn't want to not also share this and so I've brought my daughter limiter she's on spring break from universal mission and she's here to volunteer raising and a look. And she is graduating from for use in three years she graduates in May and in the National Relations and she just got accepted University College of London but she's on her way to Ghana so she'll be there this summer working on women's empowerment programs with us thank you. So you have a tough act to follow. Good morning everyone my name is Theo Washington met I'm the guy right there for the city of Atlanta as well as entrepreneurship initiative we are newly launched an initiative that provide incubate or space for women entrepreneurs based here in Atlanta to grow and advance their businesses in our incubator for a fifteen month period to completely no cost to them and have access to a collage of resources and opportunities and then to our ship and peer to peer engagement and that incubate our space while simultaneously offering community outreach and navigational opportunities an entrepreneurial ecosystem for emerging entrepreneurs young entrepreneurs like princess then write me over there are future entrepreneurs will be providing some opportunities for growth in that that space as well so very happy to be a part of this forum since our blueprint is extremely young you're really looking to supplement forty five that with the knowledge base of all of you here in this room so thank you. I must file a claim or I've been there. With U.B.S. for about twenty six years there and recently took on the role of being that the rector of ours global supply diversity we work a lot with small minority and women own enterprises. Mentor them and make sure that they have an opportunity to participate in a lot of our sourcing opportunities I also sit at the chair in our Asian American business resource group and very much involved with that women leadership very much like the women's link in that Coca-Cola. Vine and I'm tapping right author with a cup of call a company and author with women family I currently work and community affairs and also with the foundation that. OK thing. Case unity as well as women's groups that will soon be retired like me. Good morning everyone the money step fairy I run a thing called the porter group or the venture capital firm and the conscious Venture Lab which is an exhilarating for conscious entrepreneurship outside of Baltimore I think the reason that I'm here are probably two main reasons one is I have three sisters are all smarter than me so I know that that has something to do one is entrepreneurship thing I think the other thing is when before you got to the venture space we started out hence fun around the same ideas so thinking about what's one where the future is of the future value learn to be and we believe that the one of the future are not going to be those companies that are focused myopically on shareholders but they're going to the ones that focus on the nature of their relationships and that which from what we brought women is about eight hundred million dollars and it was really research based and we did lots of research on stakeholder relationships and one thing that we found. That we can expect a fine. Result when a correlation between the person on the board performance and the strongest correlations between of the number one on the board performance and we spent a lot of time thinking about that and put lots of money behind it so I think that's one reason that when we hear that. I always like that lots of money part we're always looking for money. I'm going to change things up and stamps I can see everybody I know who are covering entrepreneurs My name is Jennifer and I John on calls me John I've done seven web and mobile technology startups and I'm now currently living a life of service to other entrepreneurs and I I'm here in Atlanta I do that in two ways I'm the assistant director of education at A.T.C. which is the technology business incubator affiliated with George PAC We've been around for thirty five years and we're currently helping about eight hundred seventy entrepreneurs through our educational programs there I am also the founder of start up checks which was a labor of love passion on the Internet going on seven years this month. We have thirty five hundred members it's really a community based organization for female founders kind of with the specialists in tech and media and product is companies that have the ability to scale and grow so now it's also been a while with that. We are currently around thirty five hundred members across the globe who are operating in eight cities today in the United States and with the goal of kind of two hundred cities across the globe in about three years. My name is in do you mean that an intrapreneur base then they go something Kuria I'm the founder of labor for a car which is a leadership development organisation for young people and business owners who had written ten books on a range of issues succession governance and thinks I'm also the co-founder of a school who does in our group processing company resources. Would you some Commons supply the local market spices complementary food and a partner with a helicopter somehow there's a consulting firm and we have a P fund focused on I believe this month in the major It's one hundred million dollar fund. Lastly I want to mention that I'm a senior fellow at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard where working on a book on scaling social innovation in Africa as I heard a lot of people talking about the in computers and other ships and things like that I would love to talk with you because I'm in the heart of doing my research nonresident problem so while I'm here I try to grab as much information as possible so I look forward to engaging with all of you. The morning I'm Jennifer share I'm with the metro Atlanta Chamber and as I am in the innovation entrepreneurship division and we're focused on engaging our business community to create an ecosystem where innovators and entrepreneurs can thrive and obviously who could quote Coca-Cola Company is a great example of what corporations can do to stimulate the ecosystem. Thank you Jennifer I don't have a model my presidency of the metro Atlanta Chamber and Jennifer. Being I won't describe sort of why we're here and what we are hoping to learn and accomplish and I guess I would add a couple more things we also have a Chamber of Commerce you may think that sounds just like we're trying to help only maybe big businesses or. Businesses that are you know wiped out and you know what in our membership I mean why isn't there some a huge gap and this metro area there's way although about they. End up going to lack of mobility. Of income mobility hair and they are gaps all around and hearing these stats today make me realize that there are still a lot more I want to do in this particular area for that and just one of them now that I have had the up. Indeed to travel to a few countries in Africa when I was the C.E.O. of Susan G. Komen for the Cure time we had the opportunity to work when female doctors. Themselves in extraordinary entrepreneurs because they definitely had to do more than just take your patients if they didn't really turn it into a business an outrage it wasn't going to work for the women there so I applaud I want to you who are doing that kind of work thank you for having us. Both how everyone I'm sure you spew I am here with the Coca-Cola company I am the board member leading our community service our community leadership an issue that within women flamed out is this resource group that has over five thousand members across the country and around the world and in addition to that. If you look in your brochure or your binder of the them thing in marketing manager and I was when I registered for the summit and I've been promoted and I now work in our overall company strategy innovation and portfolio development group for all the shopper marketing with Coca-Cola North America. Within both of those I'm always looking at how this is going to affect the world and how will what we do with the women including with inclusive of that world that's part of why I work so much with women's link in addition to that I'm really passionate about making a positive impact with this time I have here on Earth. So I also serve as a board member to a startup that is focused on changing what your children listen to every day rap music and making it positive though you have any questions around any of those I'd love to connect them excited about what we're going to do here that. My name is Karen most I'm a volunteer student of Arc You know our city which is you don't know as. A mater so. Of course I'm involved when I'm standing students in my minors. Hundreds of our professors and that's why I'm here with you today. Your. Research. On it to be here I see a lot of familiar faces this. Broker at Caldwell banker. What makes me unique if I specialize in international real estate and place as a top one person globally to receive my Certified International Property specialists designation what that means and allows me to help people buy or sell residential or commercial real estate globally if I can assist any one of you in any way please let me know thank you. Good morning everyone my name is as a family member Mark. It's a pleasure to have you all here and also if you need help with anything like me now you're free and today thank you for coming. And I'll probably transcend you to someone else. So yeah I think most of you know me either from meeting me last night some of you know me from a few years back when I was much thinner without a care. And others just from the e-mail so I keep saying I'm so please understand that you're all here. Thank you. Good morning everyone occupied should see the names damage I'd say that I'm a senior majoring in international relations at the University of Michigan and I never will and I hope to pursue a career in developments on hoping to obtain my Masters next year. Morning everyone I'm Brenda Moran and I'm working in a National Women's think kind of place in a lamb and now it is of course is working with women wherever they go where the entrepreneur college to help. Enhance and improve the status of where they are we are I think tank we do research and with women's groups together to talk about issues and see how we might approve the status of women and girls we've just been recently. Honored by the states and you have given us a resolution commending us to work with improving the status of women and girls in Georgia so here again and just a matter of a few weeks will be going around all throughout the state working with different women's rights the see where we are and to look at ways in which. Hands and has their presence that is and from that we are claiming that we will take this particular model in Georgia I don't think we're also working in a national with several women sort of a face. Off. OK so your hair that one of the things that we have tried to do with this event is support together stakeholders people of good minds who could come to this task and help us think through what kind of design we want to pilot come summer and we're depending on you to really be honest and authentic about what it is that you think we need to be thinking about so that's number one we emphasize that me Georgia Tech as a place it's considerable cry being. Just the call John we know how to put things together we look at problems as the thing to do so we see this as a problem space that needs to be interrogated and addressed reasonable ways the whole notion of eco system there is something that has come up immediately about what it means for us to figure out where we put our hand else if we're going to stay in our lane as a logistic co-manager this conversation of this relationship of the things that can be done we need to figure out how we're going to do that and so one of the things that we immediately were. Drawn to is the expertise of a group or someone who puts together eco systems and national So what I want to do now is to do things to have a Daniel start out by talking about what their view of the eco system is and some of the observations that she has been making for us to break storm and for a few minutes about way that we're seeing the challenges generally and then we thought it would be better to break up into groups that we can have a more intense conversation about the way that we see the needs the resources the opportunity challenges and whatever you see that we need to be talking and thinking about we can then going back to the group we'll have to run back out of conversation and. I think that gender kind of suggests that So let's start now with Virginia. How many moments. I'm. Someone who for I go into the eco system component. I want to mention one other happened I where I mentioned only quantum leaps but I'm also the lead international for the women trade program for the International Trade Center in Geneva which is a joint agency of the United Nations and the World Trade Organization so I'm strongly interested in getting women engaged with global supply chains and I just wanted to mention that on the front and. I'll give you a very quick hop scotched through my career and how I ended up focusing so much on ecosystems I started off with women's entrepreneurship in the United States in the mid to late night seven the use in the beginning of the women's entrepreneurial movement in the states and my gosh where there are a staggering number of gaps an obstacle to that point at that point women could not get credit in their own name they had to have their husbands sign for business loans or excuse me not husband saving many old son for business loans so in one agreed just case a woman have to have her seventeen year old son son because he had the right equipment. There were many of her challenges at that time and what we decided we have to do was to create legislation to get some of those challenges changed there was no counting of women who owned corporations at that point so the U.S. government thought and the nineteen and even use that women had turned over had sales of ten thousand dollars a year and that was published for a number of years. In the state of small business because they had never bothered to count women who owned corporations. Many other issues along about that time and meanwhile when I was president of the National Association of Women Business Owners in the US when you linked that organization with an international group in Nineteen Eighty-Four and I began to learn a lot about the even more difficult challenges that women business owners were having in other countries I've had the pleasure and sometimes that of working with women's business groups and about one hundred countries now on all continents and the situation in the US is amazingly good compared to the situation and other countries but many of the same situations were coming up again and again and countries offer and then a much more complicated and torturous way then is the case in the US and we decided that we really wanted to look at how we could share best practices across countries in one thousand nine hundred ninety seven I organized the first of three global practice fronts is on women centric inertia for always be at that point there were hardly any best practices the US and Canada had most of them by the time we did the two thousand fronts we had a number of best practices that had been shared three years earlier that were picked up by other countries by the time we did the two thousand and four count fronts we had a taking number of best practices that we had jumped from thirty five countries the first time. Fifty countries the second time and the six countries the third time and fabulous models that were coming out of many many different countries we found we could all learn from each other so at the time of the two thousand fronts I decided that I wanted to create something that could be a vehicle to share. Best practices. Across countries in an ongoing kind of way so I was one of the co-founders of. Of quantum leaps which is the global Excel or endure for women some through partnerships how come about by the way once a sponsor of that event which was held in Paris and we also watched the global banking on events for women which was to begin with the group of five banks it's now about forty banks around the world that are focused on loans to women owned assets and knees and so quantum leaps was officially born in Georgia. A large meeting and Atlanta. And Wayne decided that one of the things we wanted to do was to focus on eco systems and how we could better things out the world in terms of finances was focused on women entrepreneurs micro enterprises and micro finance when I decided our space was going to be as nice because we thought that could have a very significant impact on him point we really were interested in growth oriented women owned businesses and we didn't want to be looking at just one hundred dollars or two hundred dollars in an micro finance so the only concept of the ecosystem when we first worked with him. WELCH sponsored the initial We're about twenty twenty and we developed a an ecosystem for the United States we did have some twenty ten and I didn't know whether different way than we're doing it right now in the U.S. we have such an advanced ecosystem so many. Changes have happened in the United States that we were able to have experts in every field write about the best practices in most areas were right now doing an ecosystem an India and I'll tell you about that one and here is a huge country a very complicated country and with a number of differences from one state to another or from one city to another we decided we would make our lives easier by starting with Bangalore and that was a very good choice it's known as India's sell it come Valley the women entrepreneurs there were just absolutely excellent and what really what we did was we looked at seven different aspects of the ecosystem. We start with the research data and test sticks because if you don't have a good sense of who all of the players are you barely know where to began. So we do some gusts top research when we do. Surveys and meetings with individual women entrepreneurs and we also have a mayoral control group so we can sort of look at the variation so we have about half as many male entrepreneurs that we meet with as women business owners. When we look at. And trying in capacity building and all of the vehicles that can help facilitate that access to finance of course is very important one of the missing areas for a long time was the access to markets piece and so we've done a lot of work in the access to markets area and India so we're looking at access to corporate markets that includes the multinational corporations as well as the Indian domestic markets government procurement institutional procurement So that could be the World Bank that could be. The United Nations system etc and international trade. Decided that we would focus very much on a semi and growth oriented companies in this area one of our partners as well connect International I don't know if any of you from Coke are familiar with we connect International You all are very active member of it but it's a group of multinational corporations that want to source from women owned businesses. And so they have been very engaged with the process because they are can only interested in finding women suppliers. Then the next area is technology innovation and sustainability so when you are down to five the number of Excel writers thank you baiters that scepter that are very very interested in getting more women and gauged with this. And also when a number of angel investment groups that are very interested in building strong linkages soon the tech and invention area the next area is carefully important and it's not as. Adequate we understand in most countries but it's the policy and advocacy area the National Association of Women Business Owners in the US and now a fabulous organization called The way women impacting public policy we have systematically worked on getting power suits and programs through and if you don't do that if you don't really put the pressure on and figure out where the right pressure points are no matter how good your program recommendations or your policy recommendations you're not really going to get anywhere so that's an important piece of that and then the seventh area is really building the ecosystem and then within the women's and our prize movement to Gene them the power to see an advocacy still sucked up the outgrowth of this process. Are a series of policy and program recommendations we then also a Donna Frye the organizations that can be broods in particular areas that still you see here in many ways if you're working with a smaller country because or a very sophisticated country that has very strong business and social networks is going to be fascinating by the time we moved to implementing the national map because it's such a big country so to use the most of the women's business networks are not national a couple of them have just been starting to become more national and the last six months or one year but getting them lined up on the same page some of them will be having to work very assiduously within their own set. Or stay because they've got so many challenges the differences between Bangalore which are set up here compared with Delhi I'm a National Capital Region which has some much more patriarchal. Rests forward thinking. Organizations it's very difficult for women and me parts of the national capital region to work outside the home because they have to get family approval for this so that doesn't mean just your husband that means your mother and father and especially your mother and father in law who are going to be very supportive of this and some cases. After we develop the policy and program recommendations it's all about building partnerships. Getting stakeholder in gauge of like minded people. That advocacy training and the implementation including the use of technology to drive it where outside working on a roadmap to twenty twenty right now we're talking about women and but then we're doing good you and I know the Arab Emirates which is going to be a much much easier process than certain of the city and states and and ending up with that sort of a quick overview and ten minutes and I'll be happy that dialogue further in the breakout groups or during the breaks Thank you well the thing that I know about doing these kinds of work socks is the growth they have the thirds of them from that time with the reality of info or just putting some things on the table that goes juices flowing through all the next twenty minutes I want you to be thinking about ideas that you just want to throw on the table. I recover are one thing I am a University of Michigan trained linguists and so I get drawn very clearly to our vocabulary. And rot me just reminded me of his quiet way that we are tossing vocabulary of around without necessarily clarify what that would cabin where is all about so I thought we'd take a few minutes to just have our different because the stakeholders pull out the vocabulary that is the the coin of their realm to make sure that we are talking from the same perspective so that paying for and an educator or traditional act them acute does not operate in the business world is that concept of a cube eight or so those of you who do incubate years can you tell me what it could better is as compare it with some of these other things that I might be thinking that it make you better. Not write in. I run both ninety minutes and an accelerator so I guess I will start by differentiating between the two right A.T.C. is an incubator we physically intimate we have space for about forty companies forty thousand square feet across the road here it's very selective it's hard to get into about ten companies get in here they get space they get very deep level coaching and they're welcome to stay for up to three years so it's a very long program and it's very individualistic So whatever needs of that company it's continuing and mentorship and deep connections to know our corporate partners like Kirk through the mentor chambre here in Atlanta for a start up to someone exonerate or I have some router is a really intense short program Ours is about twelve weeks long. We don't actually have. Physical space for it in pursuit of kicks for a bit different we use I don't attack. A space technically for it so they don't get co-working space to our companies most accelerators do give crew working space right as well and there are companies that are coaching but it's very short it's very intense and typically focuses a lot on on how to get very quickly. Thank you. You know that this is actually and a funny topic because I wrote an article for magazine about this three years ago called What's In a name. So if we look at this different type of entities from the business world that are out there there's co-working space that can be anywhere from ridges to to what we do at opportunity where there are just inexpensive office space we shared resources meeting rooms prep scene what have you then we use the term incubator an E.Q. baiter is a place where you've physically occupying space in the facility in combination with their educational curriculum program E So you can be bop out of your office catch a a quick one hour seminar on mastery market research or best practices in start up law. Excel or a hearse which I co-founded one are can be a mixture of that I've seen in the industry so an exhilarating can be somebody who's not occupying physical space in a particular facility they may have their own office space or their home based but the curriculum that's provided for them helps them increase I've seen exhilarating as that are anywhere from comes conceptual to early stage companies the most. US will excel readers I've had experience with are those that are helping existing small to medium sized businesses. That grew at such a rate they didn't have time to put an infrastructure in place departments in place and they were beginning to plateau we all know that that hard charging start ups by a year or three is when either when they implode or they springboard into true adolescence. In that environment you also have economic development groups so we there are several in this room chambers city there are state organizations what have you that that provide general incubation as well as acceleration. For the purposes of this group out an idea that I wrote about which is. Maybe we need to start a new term called a business acceleration programs something to define it because let me promise you if we went around this room whether be academia or business. Non-profit for profit everybody's going to have a fairly different term in that environment and you know any and I'm glad you brought it up because there is no standardization for it. Quickly in the last decade particularly with. More tech and high growth and scalable companies we've seen the evolution of the celebrator and the incubator and we have that represented today. By saying take a company about ideas stage is just an idea and then they go through but you have celebrate a program which takes them from the idea of the minimum buyable product from what the way Jim was talking about in the middle of Bible product to business model generation which takes them to market this is sort of an education but a developing a prototype at a certain point made up start raising capital because we don't have a capital conversation and we're just talking about kind of a narrative here and we're not really getting down to these ideas we can. Higher capital to move along the pipeline for say the evolution of a cell or later has evolved delegate count going on and of course the eye where when you banish the brain to six month coma CT you actually receive a best make capital usually from twenty five to fifty thousand and then now it can't matter such as. Five hundred Startups Y. Combinator on the West Coast. Also example of a number of check hundred fifty thousand two hundred fifty thousand before you get to the venture into the logic and you state this is a look at it from a pipeline perspective perhaps two of you could talk about how you want to sell a Raiders when you actually invest capital in those fields farms and conscious having a celebrator as well which is probably one of the only black owned celebrators in the country. You know. The minister has been really really good and I think they also help a little so for those who may not be familiar with those terms might be helpful to provide some very practical what Hartson elements and what an incubator might look like for your right of different organisations and. Environment so I think and again just like this gentleman said you need and if you need to better can meet in a number of different terms or be interpreted a number to be terms I think the two core gradients are the people in place as long as you have a place to meet and people are interesting gathering I think you have the core Greens now where to find a one about I think education is a very vital part about. Creating having moved out of the people out of there who are willing to invest in these companies not just financially but a more probably more importantly coaching and mentoring like answering the questions of what does it mean to have a business model what is it means you have a product that's worth buying and how do I. Now my introduced to people who have to have capital so as you think back into your own environment Susan kind of brought back into this how can I create an incubator that makes sense for my environment and I think it's just people and you have one place and you don't have to go crazy with the place either Sometimes you can just be a garage or even someone's basement so it doesn't have to have a capital heavy. We're recording so this is why it's nice they would micro. So I was going to I was really people that would send my business. Just going I'm an architect so I'm doing everything works like an alcove I have a hammer but I think this is what I found that the company was one of them one is not going to job as they do from from Boston and from one to I was a very bright man so I thought about the money is really important the society you know it was something they intentionally and I were exonerated and it was a No one site where you have to be there. Within twenty five to fifty thousand dollars actually I'm not a list. Because he wants to say we're going to buy the five thousand dollars but I want to. Go by Donald Trump. That's outside financing with the next one that would show up to twenty five percent of the thousand dollars which I was last so I was untrue to my point Jon cannot go back and say the ONLY dollars We're going to have to find me a new company and I was most of us a. Lot of folks I mustn't think that's going to have to think about some of. The discussion of. This explosion. And they think if I haven't thought about that I truly born an explosion was happening because I was going to start a tech business but I question why do we still want to buy because no. Finally about a quarter hundred thousand dollars to. The price of a laptop. This is not the top of the top. Of my eyes it was an. Excellent nurse and a mix of numbers as well as what we call the sun. Is that. Right. Now Susan is difficult for us to sort of mill So there's a. Lot of this exam so it's no surprise. This. Morning. This is going to buy a. Cloud in the US and I think it was from this and so. It was a I was going to sort of think about what's in the book mission. So. I'm. Going to happen to make great job of framing the differences between six hours the importance of place for some programs but going back to. Go back to John's point adapting your computer or exhilarated Graham to your community isn't always. A structure that it was capital. Entrepreneurs and bring them. One destination city for maybe one. And over the course of an entire three month program that we have and maybe we have twelve days of actual Burson programming gateman supplemented by remote assistance of course. I think the critical if you hear. This is addressing the premier crap that Jeff mentioned. There are many companies that are getting traction at an angel stage and just not able to get up to that series a stage which is where the all of these accelerators are coming from his capital we're going to play capital into every single company comes through one of our programs it's actually structured so that at the end of the month program the ten to fifteen entrepreneurs that we bring together rank each other in order to address some of the inherent bias season the venture capital and early stage investment community that are not getting addressed by. Other other programs really and it's really ended up giving us the ability to to find innovative ideas went out based specific Lee on whether or not they're the best investment a term that you'll hear. Going around a lot because this is kind of my wheel house a social enterprise that means a lot of different things but just to get everybody aligned on the way that Bill is capital view side it is a for profit enterprise that has a quantifiable environmental or social impact. Tied to its revenue generation capability so every time you make a dollar you're making a social impact every time you make an over. And it's probably going to talk a little bit more about that in a moment but. Very important to make sure that we're running the businesses that are the past possible businesses to get in that series a stage that we need to inject a little bit more about oxygen back into the room. One of the things that we're having to keep together this is the. Economic imperative with the social imperative and then has come right back to thank you for doing that the other thing that we have to get is how to do it is. You. Josh. And. Now we're going. To. Thank you David I am Richard. I was the assistant to the dean for several years I have been friend. And I'm going to take a slightly different tack for two reasons one is The World Bank finances three golden incubate as an exhilarating as the world. Six percent of those are disaster and outcomes and I think a lot of our international respect also Well it is not as if all the men are talking about exhilaration the other women are which is an interesting gap of love that one of them have been. So first of all. On the academic sorry I have to do this to go looking for any models is oftentimes done as a top down knowledge transfer system and oftentimes and I think you're making the comment that So the most successful exhilarate or build in knowledge management knowledge factor systems to formalize the learnings of the entrepreneurs as they progress through the system and and worse the on for to learn from each other as opposed to just being a mentoring model and that's both based on knowledge management there's also an aspect of behavioral psychology there's a behavioral principles of entrepreneurship risk taking really you're proving innovation taking ownership over your own learning it's essentially a series of experiments that you're on you never really don't know what you don't know when you have to learn to be comfortable this current edition you have to be I want to document that process and that the theory process for a while is involved I'm running a student accelerator Midwestern normally university not Berkeley these are kids are never going to leave all these are kids are going to stay on the farm and they're going to step so that when a person accounting for a movie like that mean that they haven't and we did not give them access to mentors for ninety days we force them to learn how to learn and how to learn how to behave like an entrepreneur and then once they're on their learning we then give them access to mental skills not assume which is always a top. Mentorship model and especially if you think you know all the aspects of what entrepreneurship and giving a very important empower entrepreneurs learn from each other and the great mechanisms for that knowledge discovery and then also in terms of your systems with really exist interesting example the one with the corporations in the room where the boundary between Egypt and exhilaration and corporate venturing and corporate impact are getting diffused and I'm using one example of can really hard corporations a program called Moms inspired by her. And it's a program where women are encouraged to submit ideas about new products which are healthier and they can really Clark provide seed helpful but most importantly rather than funding If you better bring these mob bring earth into Can relief in how the mentor by product development teams inside the corporation. Believes that is inside of a corporate entity. As opposed to just funding it outside externalities of the boundaries can be diffuse as ways of I'm sure in your knowledge in a way that empowers entrepreneurs don't require setting up a physical space somewhere else in the program the fairly successful they have over one thousand women entrepreneurs you're submit new ideas thirty of which get I man several of which are that I you know the next it's of the have become viable companies now globally but more than that it's actually entirely Chines a profitable lifecycle the company well they're being driven by their customers not whether quite developed. By listening to their women. That's my problem. Short answer is I'm trying to figure that out I don't exactly know but it's not that he said of the company's. Recent to be explored in a computer with the World Bank's money we're not seeing any cars and in fact coming out of these programs and the initial research it's not surprising very strong leadership and redefine processes to be driven to give voice to big. Culture aggressive entrepreneurship in a stone he wants to sort of things going to the school and he's also doing exhilarate or this person to have a lot of background and still an incredible Graham because it's the buzz word of the man another story was running around and I don't really crave processes that make it a fact of a sort of most predictive if you is a very strong leader who has a deep personal experience that person has committed you well to coaching think of a football coach model more so than a professor. Answer that I think. Those of us in a startup culture you know what's the best to start up called you know that most of the start of that with your best you say but like John Maxwell so they feel for. Best in this ecosystem you go when I understand that in which a lot of the companies will feel it some but only because my shot back of be able with Napster he was able to succeed with Facebook so we're going to you know continue to be able to go. Back next. Hour to get out and she talked about she talked about. This and more invested money. That's the one I wanted money. GIRLS TO BLACK go into brown and women are about three to four percent and a part of the challenge is that. The happiest point capital you know I'm not going up in a line of council is going to stage invest in the startup. You know right now I'll go and ask part of what we have to do to address. Again I'm sure a few from Coca-Cola. COLA we're looking a lot of the lean startup philosophy and inside of the company I've been told by the group I'm one of their advisor someone the advisors who are global. Innovation and entrepreneurship and my question Who are those especially those who work in start ups an accelerator think of yours is no longer what I believe. Richard mentioned the stars Kimberly Clark My question is how many how many of these other models have you all seen the what do you think the future will be as far as. Corporations being able to Harken Energy that's out there related to to start ups and you know taking on that that that mantra and going inside Having pitched best and tending the product development. Process I just I'm really curious to know how where you think this will go like to your point that we can't just keep we have to have we can't have all the oxygen stuff in our corporations are jumping into Thought I'd love to hear what you all think this is going. On I think I think. That. When you start to do so but it's not glamorous lots of people have. Bad or saying when I was I was about to buy the consciousness of a bank's. Presence I was open. So. There was something businesses. But. Most of those companies right. And. So. Option on our own and I thank them for. That. Because. That's another thing we should talk about. So discussion that we should go. Down. And reduce the rates. But who are those people how do they prepare themselves. If the regime. I plan to make sure that it's really. You know. Hello everyone so I just wanted to. I wanted to clarify slash data point through something that Robin said previously and then. On the young woman from Coca-Cola about how Sure it's how. Operations can involve themselves in the. Developing of a more robust sort of. Pipeline for startups and technology enabled companies so the second but just like at a very depressing data point so it rightly said so like nationally statistics for venture capital you've got billions of dollars invested every year let's do a little less than five percent go to women like an umbrella of women of all types of backgrounds and then less than one percent of our American but like above blow your mind of black women there is a group. Of crunch very innovative for startups and there were there were six black women that they got the last. Combat order in in the entire country so it's like those are how dismal the number of are and that absolutely need it we're talking about innovation and bringing a Welcome back to the innovation economy and it's not that women or whatever background or anyone's talent. Driven or want to be here about being proud of solving problems that matter. Is an irrational matching bias in the space that is killing us all so it's ridiculous but. If you're if this point one of the things that Atlanta actually does very well is that sort of corporate. Building that bridge there and there's a there's a program at There's a program at the chamber called corporate Angels where some of the biggest corporations call Atlanta home for headquarters. They partner with startups to be like their first customer So for instance I think it was right. I think with or some Yeah I was their first. Big customer reported from consumers so their first customer sort of bankrolled early development of a two hundred. First couple customers and you know you can do a lot with that but a lot of people didn't know about it I have some colleagues who had no idea about it I just found out about it because I was talking to someone who was involved with that but people don't I don't think enough people know about those types of programs but that can move the needle from them to flee for an early start up you know I have a colleague of mine she has a virtual executive assistant business so she can go to a group of. Coke was my first client but I was a licensed. However. Thousands of dollars you know helps the smaller guys and other big guys and girls this is the most mysterious company to look at so so I think that. That's a really good model that Atlanta has been able to get going and is it worth your birthdate of the opening up of office of. Just one million dollars donation over the course of three years to. Georgia Tech to start to finish tax specific program. And so that will be acceleration education. As well. As in capital for things like a. So how can we great have more great innovation and exercise along those lines the. Chamber we have a industry Connect program where last year twenty seven deals were done with our companies getting our first customer those deals ranged from a thirty thousand dollars commitment to a three million dollar commitment so lots of innovation going on with corporations but I do want to bring it back to the women of I think that's why we're here today right so the numbers that for an outsider right on right it's about seven percent of females in this country would start businesses get some type of engine of or receive funding. And it's just abysmal and there is no series a gap for women right there to see the gap for women we don't get money in the seed round so we never get to the point that we're going for a series a. And so that's a huge issue for us. Before we go forward before we go forward it's important to to also say when you look at it from a guy X. board perspective that black women do have to invest in themselves so even though we say they're googly billions of dollars what has to happen is first of all we in the United States are the most educated group so what happens is when you take black women with you have friends and that's where you kind of swing into the word but let's say if you have that one hundred fifty thousand dollars for print job how many companies as an individual do you have invested so if you may one day are living like you make seventy five and then every year are you taking fifty thousand dollars and besting in five different businesses for two different businesses because in our communities we do have an issue with getting to that first. To five thousand dollars and it was no question and we do understand I often times and it has been a historical thing black people are poor but when you start talking about black women and levels of education once we start investing in ourselves and with each other and amongst each other then other groups and other people will say I want to get on that because they're starting to invest in themselves take up market share and all of that so what corporate people can do is actually become an angel investors or my pro investors look self because as an entrepreneur. What tends to be a challenge is when you go to meet that corporate person and they look down on entrepreneurship because they're interested in drawing so whether that read this Coke whether it's Google and so we tend to deny the entrepreneurship and then our young people are suffering because other communities their two children yes can get that fifteen thousand can sometimes even get that fifty million but if we can get fifty thousand and everyone is walking around with a revival shoes don't really stop having those shoes and start investing in X.L. So you know how to say even a phone that invest in themselves so whether it's America whether it's a benefit of the countries in Africa the Caribbean had whatever it is that you want to grow that is what we can do harvest from a corporate perspective from a. Team and I'm going to make a point of word here and I'm not saying to not and I'm not saying it to get into the politics even though it may be political The whole idea of a handout versus a not handout but when we start talking about our education and we know once we're educated we tend to lose. Get things for granted the city which we. Through our history that's the point where we have to start living below our means and helping each other and then we can say one angle investor actually told us this he said if you all can get that first round that first twenty five thousand that first fifty thousand he said bring them to us we'll be glad to give them to fifty but you are showing that you even care to invest don't want another. And I was. I'd like to take you back on. You also sort of it's sort of different terminology around funding and I'm in the trenches right now so. Right now I and I and I agree with what you're saying but. Sure and I would like to take your twenty five thousand I understand that but it so so when it comes part of the part of the issue of diversity in my opinion when it comes. To start ups or particular tech start ups is the expectations around the entrepreneur being able to access capital so when you start. Right now the end of that when you start at. The expectation of you know you're able to you know get friends family and money to be able to push out your initial product or platform your M.V.P. your minimal viable product that you can you know iterate upon and then you know raise your money to take off and get growth. But if you look like me your community doesn't necessarily have the same mindset around investing in a private company that other people do so you know for some because I've been in planning meetings were just like. You're raising five hundred K. just get it from your parents then some ensembles like who was parents and uncles but nobody nobody liquidating them for a long paper may decide a bit are you crazy but they but some people have that ability you thought just kind of like. Like what can I do for you if you can't you point it's like. We've got to get something else out here so I don't know what the answer to that question is because it's a it's a it's there's a paradigm shift and I'm and I'm mindset because I'm on with money that has been absolutely steeped in historical drama around money so I'm not arguing that at all but it's not happening and it's not happening with people who beyond have the me you there are plenty of you know there's plenty of. You know the women who are great money even when you lack corporate money but. There are some people who you know like having a life with you know in fifteen K. a fact every month in my that they don't they don't understand that you don't go shopping for much you could find a company like it that you see but it's also. What I think can't come soon when what the community is going to get asked often wife Idea Village fifteen years later was success and white man some a charter of it was founded by five people for one reason and one reason only we all had to leave the state to get a job. And get on the next to seven not one kept with his annoyance right now and that's why we started it and it wasn't a boy playing it wasn't a black thing it was everybody has one thing it's a state without one Fortune five hundred company in the entire state on his completely service based industry but what happened I think that's where Shantanu is going. We put back together a program based on our profile as a city what tangible assets do we. From a university standpoint from a transportation standpoint what have you and we got the community involved in the community being everybody and they were there with gentle supporters because I want to drive towards the Cooper question they were they were originally supporters or only after that did we listen to Lane and Loyola sue now and University in New Orleans and they came on board and the last we're going to zation to get on board because we didn't have one corporate sponsorship dollars in that market was the city and they came in much much later after all be real fair a lot of blood sweat and tears and hit the pavement and when they came in I'll give them credit they came in full force and they jumped on board full force. What really but no. Idea really and it ends Burley or yours was all of a sudden we had Google Sales Force dot com Amazon come on board ever made publicize that had out of what was going on there so if I were to look at the major corporations in this room and say if you can create awareness that it's cool to be an entrepreneur whether it's you know or in Africa or in Asia there's actually massive massive value that comes along with that and the other side of that was we were real honest with ourselves there was a whole group an idea village that coined the term sell a COM by you and we all looked at each other's founders and started laughing because to wanelo a lot exaggerating or Sue Now you know don't have C.S. department us. So we're going to be the saw a con by you creating high tech companies when we don't even graduate a computer programmer taking over their right. Arm So yeah you know what my company goes in and looks. Criteria we go through sixty different things that are very likeable to each destination and what want to actually lead toward success so an opportunity to help there is very distinct vertical those that are equally at the base strong seeds creative Colter logistics right app development and then the last part of that is is is true you see money. When I have a conversation I have a startup that after I get one through a lot of money. I was funded on the thought of thirty fourth venture capital pitch and I and I messed up I started a one off a masterwork by way west. Whether it's a land out where Chicago or no why Windsor Cincinnati a weapon of mass if you want to get funding for a tech company go to San Francisco. Right. But it's either wise so if you're going to be in a destination whether it's Africa or somewhere in the states we're Asia play to your strong suit and play to those investors strong suit that are in that market OK I want to use my typing little bit hair in order to keep the conversation going so I want to make comments you have not spoken before so that's one. That's the ME. I thought there was a forward and then we'll have a serious break. For our coppery friends for a bathroom break you would come up and get into smaller groups so we can actually start putting some states in the ground OK that would start with you're going to. Have a moment I think I'm sitting and thinking we're talking about startups and I'm going. To get the finishing to perspective on what we mean. From my experience really you know studies start up. Somebody who's probably. Dabbled in business before and that's not where we have typically started because. Of hard work and if it is an investment. Getting traction is always much more difficult So our starting point to who is with people. And ideally going back and really working in the business for. Driving a business for two to three years that's not that's what my that's that's the starting point so I'm not sure in the context when you're talking about start up where where where where where where with that is with with that start at these examples business people people fail in the business because when we talk about. The selection criterion first of all. You know what both the experience and the find themselves into the relation I think that's important and when we have worked with. It was much easier to start them out for. Them because. We work with that it's called the gap so. We have a program. Funded and it was a. One on. One investment. Off of the practical. Side to it which is. You know so I think I think thinking about these programs holistically. Be able to see where you can consistently. Make. So I agree with you again I that's what I want to talk about I want to talk about from the corporate perspective because there's a middle ground here right it's all about. I grew up in cells before I went to marketing there was something called the low hanging fruit which went after the maker in numbers and there is low hanging fruit out there guys it's kind of like you can push the pencil up a hill or you can strategize to get in those gaps where people are looking to give you money to do things right and there is a gap in corporate America and I can speak for I.B.M. but you know P.S. Coca-Cola Everybody when we go to the supplier diversity fairs is the same thing over and over again my folks not my folks but my partners folks have a list of areas we are big baggy for women and diverse unsupplied OK Where normally in the areas that we normally are not. We can find out because the only people who want to do a chart I T. staffing we can find a consultant people that want to do communications marketing and advertising we can't find one trucking company we can't find one want only a manufacturer we can't find software development companies those are the things that so I'm not saying that was the areas you have to go with what I'm saying is that back to the ecosystem let's map out with the ecosystem because their wants and needs and let's try to fill that gap through the path of least resistance right I've got a great program Global Entrepreneur Program looking for software developer companies less than five years in existence. Venture capital money OK for the time they will work they want to match you with our research we have been number one of research lab in the world. For twenty we have been up the most number of patents in the world for twenty five near straight OK. We will get you in there with our Ph D.'s We will have to see you all being mentored by an executive with an I.P.O. but not Monica we're not in line I think the one we know where to be seen because we're coming in there and we're saying yeah but we don't do marketing I'm sorry although we had maybe with our agency of record we just you know that's what we're looking for the other is that corporations need to versus this is it is a business right we only people that look like the people in the markets that we serve God boy and we're looking for businesses not better skilled right away. What have thought about how you would scale because you can get a big contract we can be your I don't know it might be careful what you ask for right but what they're looking for and we've proven that we have taken on a couple of businesses that I know of one right here in Atlanta global why because we welcome now is the talent and amount of the C. and I want case there was a Hispanic woman who was an entirely different business but thought so highly of her capabilities place that we don't really need that business but we got this gap here how about you saw that business and started with it she said I don't know anything about that don't worry about it we'll take you because we think highly of you she's in about ten countries around the world now so you know you want to grow with your column you want to do what's next year also let's look at what corporate America is looking for and needs to be quite off the ball and wrapped up in the ecosystem and maybe you guys on the front line of examination maybe you can push people into areas that are close to what they want to do but you know but. Right. All the time. We. Watch Fox and we have a right for that so I want to have thought was. Right. You know. What am I but I was bouncing around the room. Sense. Could come talks but I feel I'm coming from. Much of a sector has been the twenty dollars a year on a decade ago and I as a whole I'm not want things to come in and I'm going to them just what we're talking about here. A concept of a bunch of capital and it's such a very unfamiliar topic back home I don't know how can we have a population of my time again when I come from where we're actually approaching up to this point and such the market sector. And most of them don't even want to own the business you know that want to buy more is my search has been done and so on a couple of questions so I my mind I can answer them after we come back but I want to also must understand a but more because from my experiences on bunches of my company has looked out for for capitals from a venture capital provider I was. Ready. To work on whether actually investing in this business is a permanent or temporary about or the time dilations of this and how to determine. Does it always have to be a start up or am I going to be a company that has a manner of death has a very physical presence going on and. If it's not started up it has one other business but moving the boxes to finance to not just go and expand. Are not investing adventurous. And how many of them are not focusing on. The countries and about what kind of class are you an investing in when we're talking about the betterment. I'm not talking about. Governance. Is there any but to have in the States and. Now. In terms of exemption of the dogs or any other you know support system that you provide for these startups or existing businesses and what are you talking about because there are some stereotypes. And then. I'm addressing this issue is it human and if I may have been a proponent you're going to have someone talks to just deal with that within your organizations or is it just something that's in the in the lines whenever we're talking about these things OK now we're on board. Then I talk to we're going to break but what I want you to do is to think about whether there are people that. Have this group. We welcome. And I want to have. So we're going to write about. That with a throw here. And then a combat growing to. Report out of. How much. Work with have my. Own.