Thank. You must thank you. A little louder please. Just say yes. But this next Friday September second we're doing exactly that to be exactly as a. Part all I have to say this morning is that every grandfather right this guy seems to be the perfect guy for this job soon in a sense of northerns time to cut their sixteen's down for gosh sakes and you know just you know let's get some tension by your mother a little steam up please we're going to start on a related issue is really sort of almost all of things but I want our Barbara Starr was good work was over with been a witness to come up to about other who helped with babies when she was struggling to even hold off but really he took a big step or aren't a big we saw he was a little bit but didn't really mean that a back a Jewish chip off shored up she took one person but what if it sends a message but we understand the problem course the whole there's little point about having was told to put their guns down to get reports of their help they're not here to you know intimidate people while take what plan does a lot of that with a straight shooting take charge John wait you never got stuck on stupid he was exactly what the gulf coast needed right after Hurricane Katrina. Not misspoke or spoke to reporters that's B.S. I want you to get on because never thought I was responding to this B.S.. That's right we'll never forget General Russel Honore it's what line it was but or a matter what he did with the hurricane victims even more when President Bush signed what we see aboard to called the command Joint Task Force Katrina I'll write you this may be one of the most. His career with. Charlie thanks Charlie. Welcome boy it's great to be here it's honored to be here this is about my third or fourth opportunity to come to this great institution and speak over the years I had opportunity live in this town for almost six years little known to many of you have commanded off a call the first United States Army I was the thirty third commander first Commander was a guy named blackjack Persian and in World War two commanded by God by the name of Omar Bradley so. You would know about me in that lineup but it's great to be here today I probably didn't have the grades to come to Georgia take but I had a lot of joy to take grads work for me. Over the years. And it's a great to be is that deep is the mana and I see our future officer corps setting over here I thank you all for coming in and recognize a few veterans in your audience I want to talk to you today about leadership and preparedness in a twenty first century the thing about preparedness is it's. Talked about after things happen. What we could have done should have done and. We can't lose our place in time where the understanding of what happens and how they happen and we we get this idea that we can control everything. And leave Jan we need to get over it. We cannot control everything. As a level of preparedness because regardless what we do and what we build as human beings on any given day Mother Nature you can break it. As absolute breaking. And our off of our. Continuous struggle is how we can be. Mother Nature. And her again if I may use that as a metaphor on any given day Mother Nature can break anything built by me. Just this past year Mother Nature came through here with a little cold weather and some ice and one of America's greatest cities it did what. Shut it down. Shut it down now there are things we can do that prevent the impacts of Mother Nature work we can start out by doing simple things like listen to the world of a. Person we understand invite There is a mystery months and three days of military that hope is not a matter. Of hoping that it will go north to go south should not be a method of doing business when you've got a metropolitan area of sixty seven million people and you've got trucks in airplanes coming in from all directions I say it is not as a criticism but as an observation there are many things that craws that paralysis in decision making before during and after an event that goes deep into the history of this state and many other states nobody intentionally woke up just want to see him go screw yourself. We just made it out fail that. As was the case in Katrina. But talking about preparedness can remind me of a story I do get to go around here talk about leadership around the country I was in Houston a couple years ago talking at a dog food convention. And. It was interesting your you so I mean I've talked to fence Comanches and toilet make it conventions in water conventions in engineers. Esteemed design Bill architect you need your convention now. National Convention spoke at all those but this meeting at this dog convention kind of remind me of what I'm trying to sell to you today about the parish. We went into the session being warriors council looked like the opening of a Garth Brooks concert music play and smoke coming out of the floor the see you come across the stage and everybody stand up and you slap a rock star and I need you to participate for this thing to get the effect so I'm going to change the name of the dog food company and I'm going to play the role of the C.E.O. for a minute and he comes across in here about to quiet down and all the troops are clapping boy and he just implied that he says. The name is dog food company uses A.B.C. you with me you have got to be all smart people. OK I'll explain this to the Marines because they will give him a second time around and so he asked best Marine Corps in the world is one in a room there's always one so he asks a question he says and we'll call it the A.B.C. dog who's coming OK you say who's the best dog food a is the best price a boy I didn't ace question he asked who is a save his dole food OK and everybody pulled a piece of dog food they had given him and it popped in their mouth I said hey. This guy got these people fired up. And then he done with most C.E.O.'s do eat dinner slide up and showed the income stream. Their return on investment. And Lazy Gemini thing was flat line. And when going anywhere had been anywhere it was a loser and I say to myself I'm glad I got my damn chair if I got here. And of course he would do with any C.E.O. would say you say look. When I was the problem and it was silence the smoke went down the lights came up because he was looking for dialogue the troops why when this thing setting up the best market place the best safe is food the best price the best look at dog food bag they got everything is not sell it so after his third time yelling at the audience I do know back put his hand out he said Who is that he said Boss This is little bubble from Lake Charles Louisiana. He said Bubble was a problem bubble but I would say pause the problem is the damn dogs won't leave it. In your management school it would call out organization alignment some B.S.. Our problem with disaster preparedness is that people won't need it. And most people in Georgia spend no time getting ready for football season and if you get ready for winter. And the same thing could be said new all those people spend more time getting ready for Ellis you two lane games and Saints game in need you get ready for hurricane season when we know they're going to come. And they can have disastrous impact the situation as we saw unfold in New Orleans we had two things come together the power of Mother Nature against the city of about a half a million people and a storm one. Broke the levees around a city that is below sea. Level. Is flooded to our our two largest hospitals now to you engineers and architects. Somebody stupid come your way. Because everybody will remember the name of the mayor but nobody remembered the name of the architect in the engineer. Who decided to put the generator and the power system in the basement of the Charity Hospital and who in the hell would do that. Hello. And when you go back yes a question said well who decided to do that. And you go see the architects the architects here US engineers one hundred there you go see the engineers here well I just want to tell you we know better there's a dam C.F.O. decided to put it here you know the money. We lost those two hospitals next year we hope to have those two hospitals open. At a cost of one point three billion dollars apiece. Those hospitals really went well into this century and beyond like we do would build these around here reshape. But we lost them both. Because we generated was in the basement all the mechanics was in the basement and the computers are in the basin there's a screw down there and you know in a computer guys you know what we can initiate all the way up stairs you know they want they want to go and here with the generator guy hang out net coon dog Spot the bottom computers run good we lost it all we ran a city for a couple months while I was there own yellow Ledger pads. Telling got new computers in that people or so that's the impact that you can have in America you saw it here in Atlanta if you were living here and you can reflect back from the video on what happened in New Orleans of Mother Nature the impact your mother that you saw it in one of the most prepared places in the world have had this catastrophic event in Japan. Some of the most prepared. Communities in the world and again they were overmatched they went from in at. Disaster known as the tsunami so a manmade disaster called nuclear power plant. Now who in the hell would put a nuclear power plant. On the water. You would if you are from Japan or you from Korea where the concept of ground is very precious. And somebody come convince you hey you want to use nuclear power or well let's get four. Because what goes on the higher ground in many Asian countries who goes on the high ground perhaps our. I mean you know that culture you go there and you see a low mound own your C.L.O. Hill and on top of that hill there's a significant person from that community. So it speak to the point of how our cultural norms can override engineering decisions so huge in years. In New Orleans where do we put the engineer where do you put the generators in the basement in the city everybody knew was involved at some point in time. In Japan and this is not. Anything you guessed that the actual personnel these things happen over time they put the the nuclear reactors where they took water on high tower. And I search. Now if you had to walk their dog back would you do that probably not we rebuild in the hospitals in New Orleans guess what. The first floor is what I call the dummy floor. You know there's nothing you can park cars there you can put stuff there but all of the technology is at least twelve feet off the ground. In Japan if they moved it to Lance at the Georgia Tech football field it would have never gotten wet. And they would vote from the. Natural disasters to manmade disasters So yeah being one of the big brains out this kind of this discipline. You had I have an appreciation of what Mother Nature can do when you design and build this great building now you go around the world if you look in there and that deck you see a map of the United States if you pull that up for me in your name again Charlie Charlie is my new best friend you see a map in your child's brain that map up. Well since you know to do that you keep going. To come back to that one. Faster Charlie. You see a map right there Charlie do you know those of you that I geographically challenged just here's a map of the United States of America. That big red thing in the middle is that Mississippi River we talk about floods floods destroyed no homes every year than any of the vet in the world the power of water. A couple years after I retired I was doing law well is where I grew up a C.N.N. headquarters it was a flood out the midwest will mention name a town but the last name a town this falls. And I thought no professor there. Whom I met some time after Katrina and he said Well General I just don't understand how life flighted here. I said Well professor at your university I'm looking at a Google map there's a river run through it. I say What do you look see when you see look to the East Professor You see I see higher ground. Where do you see when you look to the West Professor you see as the Hydra I say that's the dam Valley. You stand next to a river How do you think I got there professor. He will never flooded here before I said not in your lifetime obviously but a flood there some point in time. And I go to the east. National Flood conference is in the state are you money Semana zero Joe what's a good way to figure out if in my flood I see number one rule if you live in a house and you can see water it conferred. Then on. As you cross water on the way home you probably live in a place that a flood it is not that sophisticated you do not need a model and if this is your first home and you're taking a loan out and you go to the bank when you get ready to close on a house and it could be that they say are you have to go see Fema about your flood insurance. You better get the hell out of there. Because you about a buy house in a flood zone. It is not very sophisticated. I'll grant powers who would laugh at us. That we cut the banks of the Chattahoochee to make a river make a road flat no I don't know well what happened to the Chattahoochee it runs always banks and when you Bill I two eighty five around the city and Lana and I have to bank a very river what do we do do we go up with the bridge we went straight with the bridge who are the bridge builders in here. The potential future bridge builder same US We want to two in a row OK Go tell the potential future bridge builders Irene rule number one when you come to a river you build a bridge up. If you build a bridge flat and if you just like you have a ladder as soon as the water come with your happen the debris is going to build up under the bridge and it's going to do what is going to flood the local town right around there in the state and it happens here all the time happens on the east side. It happens on the west side. The dynamics of what we talk about listen Jamie said well why do we do that how do we let that happen well a professor is in a room will tell you a policy. Begin landowners they want to exit there they want to develop their lane and by the way it had flooded here recently as the biggest lie of a toe then flooded here for lazy German anywhere you see red here is subject to major flooding as well as parts out in the Midwest yet the Mississippi River. Got its name from the Native Americans American Indians. When you turn to the word Mississippi River in the language of the time line it means the father of the waters. Now if you live next to the father of the waters would your expect to happen. Is not a flood nine hundred twenty seven. About nine hundred twelve nine hundred thirty six the evolution of when we put our levee systems in around the Mississippi River going all the way as for the author up in Him Those are St Louis put that limit levee system maybe keep the river from flooding. The great. Plains and coming down the Mississippi Delta. With impacts that have had significant impact it's created development all alone you see all many of our major great cities one thing in common you may have seen on this map is that there's a river there you go to Austin. You go to Fort Worth. Because our ancestors The chased water water was keen only for drinking it was key for industrialization and it was key for the biggest transportation and where the water was the cities went where the cities went the railroads went. You know the rest the story what happened in there was the city was underwater. Because the levees broke. It happened before and it could happen again you think about what happened in New Orleans where there's a population about a half million people what do you think would happen in Miami. How many people live below Daytona Beach in Florida you magine. I mean people you manage to live there. Are. Proper ten million. That infrastructure was built around four million. Of the two major roads that leave there. What prevents a Katrina from happening in Miami is there something out there that could prevent it from happening. Go read about the flood the storm one thousand nine hundred thirty five or Hemingway's hurricane it came through here and overtopped he wes. It drowned two hundred veterans from World War One he was out there working on a railroad between Miami Key West. Very tragic event. And you might say well why would those veterans there they were on a project called that B.P. building a railroad for this great businessman in collaboration with the city of which state of Florida put rail service in the Key West the storm was coming and you got the word the storm was coming. The governor of Florida said we'll take care of vets you are a railroad said he would do it in a breath nobody did it to her ground on barges right off the coast of Florida so we have done stupid before. And we go back into further earlier generations where we have failed to act before disasters happen in a case in New Orleans we had eighty percent evacuation of the city. Eighty percent. Evacuated their part you heard about was sixty or seventy thousand that you saw on television that didn't evacuate but we've got to find a solution that they're right. And the next piece I want to talk to you go up to the piece on leadership you see General Washington. To you engineers I.P.P. is a boat. And you've got Admiral here they are coming I'm sure he'll appreciate that maybe. But our three points of leadership we want to take from this portfolio you probably know a story that requires a leadership is Washington was successful because he embraced doing a routine things well and when you can do it in imposing on his army he brought other people in Washington was a cesspool because you were afraid to take on the impossible. And I'm here to tell you lives in Germany all the opportunities on the other side impossible. When we go from seven to ten billion people we're going to have to do the impossible how many of you have a spend any time without electricity lights went out we have put people on the moon right now we got a vehicle for one fifty pickup truck running around up there taking pictures but we haven't developed a transformer that had them square OK trip. We did we sent in here right now and our friends in Georgia power in Georgia and all of who had it up to squirrels will be out there getting ready for their homecoming game ban I'm not the power. And the other way tell a truck come on find out which pole it's own and you know pull it there and hit the thing or they come back. There are many more threats to our power grid I tell you that because power is the number one ingredients that the find us in these disasters when we lose we lose the ability to communicate. Reusability pop water we lose the ability to flush toilets lose the ability to watch Airbus A coupe. Yeah I mean it affects everything. So as Washington in his day wasn't afraid to take on the impossible the defeated or British Army. We gotta take the impossible. Now when I go to the screws in the south and I talk to them about the impossible as I've been here before talked about impossible think about what have you students doing the impossible not asking you to charge forth on the battlefield we tell them actually solving the issues of the day when we go from seven billion the ten billion people because we don't have power problems. The grid is vulnerable you had your time the students in this room today you have to find a solution is one of them is think about. Five years ago I used to go say go to a big box store but soccer moms don't have to go to big box stores right and you're a computer and order it off or Amazon right or e-bay. Or low box this last you take it home and said there's no engineers in Rome so your stay with me. You take it in a closet and you're playing in a wall. And you don't worry about. It the power go out it will run the house for five days and when you tell it to the engineers do this or they tell you that it will work. Let us know work their way in the world wide Our because we hadn't done it yet. But we don't have a choice we gotta do it of the seven billion people in the world today. About two billion. Yes they don't have electricity in the house how do you think they feel when they wake up in the morning. And they don't have light changes only wake up in the bill a night or the fact that they're going to kill a chicken the day they got to eat it all because it can save you tell them are how do you think they feel about their in another billion and a hair kid nudist they can't turn a war all because you know I won't anyhow. Another seven billion people. Three billion of them live on less than four hours a day. This cup of coffee here how much do you think their cars. How many have you burnt through four hours before you even got the class. We got to solve this problem. And it's got to be on your watch we've got to figure out how to do this because when we get the world power we won't be running power lines in front of the house and. I. Mean if you believe that. Thing about a campus year when you know powers has some you engineers can figure out how we're going to do this where the factor of the squirrel goes away when you have a message growth and life so. That's the impossible we will have to do this. When you look at the people in the world today that don't have power don't have plumbing don't have electricity. And we said here in civil war money when the opportunity is going to be when I brought it all right here. We got to do the impossible just like Joe Washington did the impossible and what our freedom from the British do you live is Great Britain to do the impossible think about what happened if you were to teach IT computer how to taste and smell. And what do to keep you people tell you were last impossible is what they tell me they say I'm a sailor general you don't understand how a computer work or computed. X. is zero computer case male. Only because what we head toward it. If we were to teach a computer tases Well think about growing up here are well below the new airplanes and. Then how about Bill an airplane for Delta rate and lead a company that tells the pilots only way in here hour from Atlanta that the person set in an F. fifteen C. has a fever. For the relevant there was growth of the day and that. In thirty minutes. The computer said that all is there fifteen is if even ten people around and have him. As he put his Landy get out a year message from the F.A.A. the way in Atlanta take the airplane to Shreveport. If a plane lands in a low in this report the flight attendants you've ever bought a low stick this it invented yet either. Where in your mouth if you come a green you get off the plane if you can register on a plane and we ship you to Utah. Dugway Proving that there for further analysis this isn't admit it. This is the burden on you big brain people have got to figure this shit out. You've got to solve these problems I mean expanding global population. Inside this in-between football games. And you have to figure out. Because we can get lost in the moment we've got to solve these problems back in the day General Washington solve the basic problem he what our freedom I mean it's Veteran's. Day we got to solve this problem associated with what you are from seven billion the ten billion people less German That's the opportunities. And think of the airplane itself how old is the airplane how many years one hundred were. There to sway and twelve. When it was first developed how do they do it to a boy I think are some sticks right you know some claw title I gather will jump off a dam here. And when they did it where people say now boy courage. And God wanted us to fly what do you does you have a some way. Some of the stuff you would do the some of these people call you crazy. And if you're not a little bit crazy you do it because you're looking around the corner you're solving problems all the engineers are tell you can't plug something in the wall and run the house we don't have an option we will never get. Our high transmission power lines throughout Africa but you know what they can skip that. Because of some of you in this room will create a technology where they don't need. Many people in the world they skip what this skip the hard life form they don't have it I mean if you have a hard life or where you are. You know you don't even want to. Know what is that. A. Step it. The technology that's required for this new normal as we go from seven to ten billion people is not an option we've got a we've got a profit has these fixes in power is one of them water is the other We've got less clean drinking water today than we had yesterday. This is not about a political party this is a reality. We will have less the more and we got today. You buy into that I mean you believe that. And there's probably some number leavers who say that ain't true. Or you do live in Georgia if you've been here a while you've been through drought You bet you the fact when the Chattahoochee was sucking mud right and we already got a water wars I'm here to tell you future wars appealable water not all. But a spade into those future wars will be a weed out of water war going out in the Midwest we had a water war going on in the Wes and that same time we got a water war going on with the energy business. And that's the dynamic of the new normal now if you go to a culture of preparedness if you were. The one that you were shooting through just open it right there. There is a solution. Go ahead open it up all the way. Faster and faster then you go faster. Faster I think this man is going to make a good Marine go back. Disaster happens. We have got pretty good on this are all the governors know you have to have a news conference. Right. You got to declare you're in charge right and right behind you Janelle actually got a general yes then and you're a police guy and you're a doctor and a local university president you know you have good news coverage you have a state you are taking care of the people. Lazy German We are getting very good at this. My projection is you've got to get over here. We got to get to the left side of the disaster. There are things that the engineers that tell you the most possible the most probable and the most dangerous. If you had time which one would you work on. The often answer that question later. Possible probable most dangers I tell people if you short on time do the most dangers. Because when you go into that you will work your way through some of these are the. She's there because going into a disaster without a plan is a problem going into a disaster with a plan that you're not willing to change is a big problem because then you're stupid because the plans never survive contact with world reality so you've got to adjust them along the way it's like the C.D.C. and the public help law dealing with a whole lot better that going on good people. Get to the left side we're going to have to invest ourselves to say hey this is a post probable incidents how do we prepare for them every dollar we spend here save twelve hours over here now Professor you'll be glad to know I was asked by a Professor of a joy in Washington how did I come with that number. In I said I give a speech about three years I see of a some other file as how to come up with a number. Nine dollars. Is what my number was. As I made it up. Every dollar you spend all preparedness right and I would say nine dollars He said I'm a look at that you know I know that you're right and he came back a year later he called me said Hey look you were wrong. Because he actually was for every dollar you spend on this side in the disaster in preparing you save twelve dollars over here. So since then I had a point of reference given to me by a professor. And what am I talking about. If you don't put the generator in the basement. You don't have to build a one point three billion dollars hospital for which you got to borrow money from the Chinese to Bill. Or. Didn't intervene ask you if you get finance you got it. OK. We got to get to the left side of disaster if you do not clog up the river the Chattahoochee and attribute errors when the floods come you. Going to do a major insurance payout for all these small villages all around Georgia you've built in these valleys and all these houses against a side of the. The ridges and when the flood come what happens it takes them out. We've got to get to the left side of the disaster is what I project we're going to have to do we have to invest in preparing as you have to design below living and most powerful most probably meant most dangerous and that was the most dangerous event in Georgia. Someone you thought imagine many nuclear power plant going bad how old is the youngest nuclear power plant we're in Georgia that's active. There closer to thirty years old how many of you drive a car as that age. Good. The land. You might be a professor in driving a thirty year old car a California. There is a ram and reject in Georgia Tech Yes Over the years wow dairy sections but the point I'm getting to to you that have an imagination with me. Is that at what point did you know we published the life expectancy for a nickel and you have been told that. If you ever get told the life expectancy of a pipeline in Louisiana we get seventy thousand miles of pipeline. Much of it bring fuel to here to laugh. When I miss the Columbia pipeline being replaced now. That infrastructure is going to have to be replace. What is the life expectancy which is lazy German We have a natural disaster they can easily become what a man made disaster. There is much work for you to do in this century and I'm thought. Much of work and much of it today is going to look. Impossible. And as we go into this new normal I read two books one up leadership in the new normal the other was survival train the culture of preparedness. If you get a chance you can drop down a line take a look at it you know I have to buy you can borrow more read I'm online but I made points from this talk out of those two books because I do think the opportunities are there the third point if we went back to that picture of General Washington. Leadership that he displayed was don't be afraid to act even if you'd be criticize. So we had three points only share the routine things well don't be afraid to take on impossible in number three don't be afraid even if you criticize because the things that you don't want to do people are criticized for if you stand around and say we've got a pollution problem then we are probably water without a problem where there. Were probably carbon and problem with benzene and methane dignity there would a lot of people say you curries. Intercession intercession problem. But the problems are real. We've got less clean water a day and we heard yesterday now a solution in the room might be what how do we go out and clean that water up if you look at if you saw a map was still up here the Mississippi River if you get now the Mississippi River is eight hundred square mile dead zone that is manmade. And where does it come from everybody who dumps water and chemicals and fertilizer and end up in the Mississippi River eight hundred square mile dead zone. That problem need to be solved how did it created that high level of phosphate proteins get in Mississippi River it goes out there you create a super new bio algae bloom taller than this building and when that algae die guess what happens it goes to the bottom right and it kills. All the. Plant life animal life down a fish life and when it does that it creates a dead zone eight hundred square miles that problem need to be solved that problem need to be at the top of your damn list here at Georgia Tech. You got it. The problem with how we're going to solve this power issue you need to be at the top of your damn lest. Because we kid doing what we do and to Mother Earth we kid keep burning coal we can't keep burning fossil fuel. We will destroy this earth. And the students in here. The opportunities on the other side impossible people will tell us impasse but you want to have to solve these problems you've got to solve that problem and all those people who don't have clean water and can't do this can turn electricity on because my people here do that what happened the people. They become to struggle and survive to come along and say hey we really take care of you let's go out here and we're going to do a little We're going to do a lot social unrest and the next thing you know is we're going to create our own country and the next thing you know if we don't every leave people and they can't take care of themselves what happens. Things happen like Ebola. Countries rich in natural resources but don't have hospitals don't have a network don't have a logistics system don't have a communication system where they could take care of their people and they can go from folklore to science. And making them understand that there are changes that need to be made. Your weaponry all these things are tied together and much I could be solved in the engineering questions right here. Because it's near and can solve a lot of this a lot of things that we look at work be left for the preachers. That theologians in the lawyers who work on them lawyers get a lawyers in a room will have their saw about the issues associated with the Have and Have Nots a lot of work for everybody regardless of what discipline Syria. That is the challenge of leadership and preparedness in a twenty first century U.M.E.. How about some discussion. Questions. Yes or. Yeah. Yes And yeah and probably go floating again to. Levees the idea behind a levee is a good deal and a levee give you early warning give you some protection but it will not stop floods because they are vulnerable they can be overtopped. The other thing you have malaria somebody going along the way. And employ the levee. And sometimes road. This basic roads beavers you know other water fall type animals go and they hang out hold it put a nice fresh date appear in the night place to go below hoochie. And they say you know the levees compromise or what happens if you break I do think it's a mistake when I was a young boy running around with my grandfather we had a place in Louisiana now for from our own run a farm I said you know we ought to buy a place and I put my for each projects there we could raise here he said Boy limitation one hundred twenty seven there is three thousand for the water there. You go less same place right now and there mega mansions there. Exists a function of time before they flood. And you can go to old timers right around here floor in Georgia. Inside the flood zone and you see these places are all you know or they save this property just for us. We know better. Some of the biggest detriment to prepare this is planning solves. Planning in building communities inside the counties the dilemma you have here in Atlanta is you've got several counties underneath the city right and you don't have a central government. And inside those counties you have multiple cities and that's the way people want it I don't think people want to change I do take some time in the in the new normal you have to change. You'll have to do what New York did you have one marries in charge of your police chief one fire chief everything else is for people level and you may not be ready for that and maybe take another hundred years from the red but at some point in time you market in history is going to have to happen you can't continue to run the city there were years where the decentralized every turn in a row got their own government I mean they own mayor their own police chief the only far the only fire chief in a normal work is a broke system so the political science people in New York need to start mapping and out what it ought to look like because you're right in the millet of it right here in Georgia Tech it's come all around you I think I'm going to solve it and I hope that answers your question. Yes or. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The woman. Well the no night war is. Your Hurricane Gustav came three years after Katrina. The waters from Gustaf would make a direct hit on New Orleans was overtip in the levees we've got in the Lower Ninth Ward. One of the issues with the Lower Ninth Ward is that it became more vulnerable over two things we got the houses on miles of all and yes exploration canals that have been put into the wetlands. You know the wetlands and biggest wetlands and marshes in America right there in that area of Louisiana well when they put the exploration canals in there in exploring the oil and gas business in creating that yes what happened so water came into the marsh and when salt water came into the marsh we lose equivalency of the state of Delaware has been lost in the last forty years. Hurricanes come in in the marsh does what it eats up the energy of the hurricane there's a quick lesson and I mean there's probably a professor here that spent a damn hour explaining what happened but I mean yes. This is the airport. And say you know me it it's up to the energy of the well we don't have that Martian anymore. But is associated with a manmade Ivette by live in a canal separate salt water in directly into weapons so the fact that and then come along we had a powerful senator last decade she insisted that they put up a canal and promised to go. So they were on a canal there she said we want to put mystic. Yeah and she was convinced by a lot of her chamber of commerce friends if you put Mr go in the ships would be able to get in the city quick actually what they wanted was they wanted to develop their four hundred camps and resorts. So building code communities went from that good idea to Baba's in the city to develop this land by putting this canal in there would be a short grass bare Terry a big go in the end to the Industrial Canal thereby cut and Shaka and they could develop going you have got it. That's how you ended up with the interstate system that don't make any sense that you laugh this was a political decision. Good engineers when I'm not designed this piece to ship it where it is. It was done this way because the politicians. Who wanted to develop lines so that's the problem you young people have to correct in the case of the Ninth Ward when they put Mr go in there. The way it happened was the senator held up the promotion of all according to mere generals. And held up a corps engineer budget and tele said OK if you were you going to get ships never use mystical why because the ships would try to go down and the ship captains would get in there and the ships would just go crazy because of the current We're current that existed there so it never got used it never got developed but it was a villain for Katrina to get into the night more. You got it. As a quick answer so you said tonight or the dilemma of the night war was we had time to evacuate you so we picked the babies up on the street we got a social economic issues a new all. And we picked those babies up on Friday as the first time I really got angry I've been here three days. Because your question to me was how did these twin babies end up on the street the Mama by yourself with no dead. How did it happen. But it had been the Army thirty five years I kind of figured that out but as this is this really got me upset. We had to deal with that. Because when you when I get when I often talk to the children Defense Fund they explain this to me said General those babies. They have a fifty percent chance by the time they fourteen to be dropouts from school. They're not going to get a fair break. That's a problem so we associate an obligation we got into near your ship and we've got pollution issues because when we left those canals open if the tear it our weapons and this is not just losing our weapons this is your weapons you got it. And that is left that whole law and I was still it's acceptable to flood and that's a good good point but we are closing Mr Goh. We want to spend your federal tax dollars to close Mr Goh it was a bad idea from the beginning it was a bad idea when it was done and there's still a bad idea and it overexpose in a war yes ma'am. Yeah. Well the way that worked is we got the coordination here. Norman used the general pretty good outfit. They build stuff based on what politicians want. What they will pay for and what they will approve they build the projects and to turn them over to without armor work the local levee boards. In New Orleans the levee boards cronies of the governors. The new was levied board literally were running a golf course. And the were take care of each other's yards and it created hunting camps not for everybody to go to for what it was it just a corrupt system since then this is in New Orleans have created a competent levee board with engineers on it hydrologists and you know people who kind of know what they're doing I think they know what to do now but for a long time that was overridden by political favors is not an excuse I'm just telling you it was I was off in the Army. And when I was in Louisiana I wasn't invited to the room if you understand what I'm saying. And that's a social economic issue that caused that to happen and we spent fourteen billion dollars that city can still flood again you ought to know that just like Atlanta can flood our seven year flood again yes ma'am. All of the above the mayor call for the evacuation of the city on Friday Mayor will by the way is in jail now. He called for you vacuum ration that tell me who ought to be in jail yes it is question when you know who I should be with you know the work. The mare coffee evacuation on Friday. The school board. Don't work for the mayor. The screw board said we got a Saints game and they. Said if we start evacuating with the people deal with the children because the sense of it is a Sin City we have a new game the snow maker Mattel's Sunday this is a preseason game and all the hotel operators where do they say we got these tickets so this is a lot of economic activity. So a lot of people I coulda left Friday didn't leave as the Saints game is covered on Friday night pre-season game Saturday seventy miles away in our state capital guess who's playing football. L.A. shoe and I'm convinced in the Southeast Conference if you want to take this part of America do not open a football season and the Russians will come in and take all the shit. Because everybody with a brain is only way to a game or a game. So we had that paralysis of decision because people say well if the Saints play football why would I want to leave we get our car leave them are and the people as you say would have the game Saturday morning against that door state you know one of them throw away games. You know is a practice game we have to have a game so they had a need when you take the capital city and you fill it up with football people whether the people in New Orleans go. The storm is coming to New Orleans they've got to go to Memphis they got to go to Jackson that created a dilemma for the city and you all. Then on Saturday the president call I was on the call I was right here in Atlanta for you all that's my job the person on the storm president of United States on the phone he's talked to my boss Keating in Colorado the star in the Pentagon they're all on a state he said I got a call from Richie the director and we heard. He said he said is then his comment is come as strong as coming somewhere in the Gulf we knew that Saturday and he said it looks like it's coming loose and we want to declare a national disaster right now that the ration of presidential declaration first ave been done. In Morgantown natural in presence of that already happened all of Saturday Sunday you know the rest of the story right people with cars left wind up with sixty seventy thousand people in the city many of them went to resorts of less if you do a poll or how much money you got on the twenty ninth in a month. So how do you get out of town. That's a part of the limb and we end up with a lot of these associates Adamic issues but they can go back to since you're an ingenue you screw the engineering profs then they go through what if anomic problems because they had that game because the economics. That. This is the levers these are the problems ya gotta saw there's a lot of work for you to do all the people professors that tell you all the good stuff is done they're wrong there's a lot of good stuff for you students to work on it is new normal because you've got to solve these problems you've got to solve these problems with energy you've got to solve the problem of water you have to solve these problems the availability of technology is so much to be done OK the elephant in the room is the bowl what went wrong. Things been around a long time. One of the things is we got caught and we weren't ready. Just like Katrina came to lose and they weren't ready you saw the storm come all the way out of nowhere Katrina went through Cuba as a Category three kill a team people. Became a lose in Mississippi and kill over eighteen hundred and that's a poor country. How did that happen. These are the issues of the time nature of I think. And again people don't evacuate because the form of government is the American tell the school who are to do and scoop or chasing the Saints and L.A.S.U. our flagship institution they were vital to seize the furball So by Sunday night the storm is bearing down on the city and you've got to close the city seventy thousand people are dead didn't get out of the city many of them poor people I can say this the majority of people we found there war elderly disabled and pour some time or three of the eight hundred people to die so I speak to the fact that the bubble population they houses or are not as well structurally sound and they're more apt to live in a plug and when it's time to come for the leave they can't leave the two points for you to take with you take away in the middle of a disaster be prepared to figure out what rules you're going to break. You know write anything else down write that down. In the middle of a disaster figure out what route you're going to bring I'll give you two quick examples there's about time for you to go number one example I'll give you is. Airport new all. We get the airport open on Saturday morning remember storm came Monday morning we did it over Saturday morning now the state transportation command center airplanes in this is a sight to see all these big wide body planes coming in T.S.A. out of Atlanta shipped a lot of T.S.A. people in we got the National Guard bring the people to the airport New Orleans airport they get there are going to get people on an airplane we'll get no more on this is a great site to see and get pictures on up like very I mean this thing is happening. I get a call from a major major park she lives here in Atlanta he said. Also got a problem so what's the problem say the T.S.A. people say are the key here lovely people. You know have to bring some more T.S.A. screeners in with some more why are. They came here low. OK let me talk to them I was about to get on my helicopter and fly in the new orders and I was over Mississippi. And so OK so you got him in a room I said. Put him on the speakerphone library. I mean so and so on T.S.H. you know we're here to help you but we just our Atika pass it. You know you're about to hear some dumb shit and when you hear somebody in the government say the worker passed it. Is that on their checklist so I said What is the problem what you mean you know I had the capacity say well we need more people we need more Was this too many people first a check let's get back to the fact of why do you check in these people they are poor They've been standing around the Superdome and on bridges for almost seven days what are you talking about I said let me tell you Mr Agent Osama bin Laden is not an alarmist. I was here when we dreamed up this dumb shit that you understand Osama bin Laden is not in New Orleans I can assure you that we put nice people on the plane do you understand and his lawyer boy boy she said OK. We love you guys how stupid this nation will look if we didn't load these people on airplanes and I tell you in the mail every disaster we come up with a checklist or some about the load said you can we do this. When we create a law some of you remember when you got on the plane you got. It's a ticket you walked on to play. I was there now all of a sudden we got our rules. The next this is asked to happen about two hours later that group airplanes took all we get the pilots respect the night before in some five star hotel some place they walk into the airport my colonel call me because you see I'm walking now and they look at for who's in charge so they find this cone stand right next to my major and the guy said. We need to know who's running this and Colonel said well I guess I'm here represent first Army you're on or a guess OK we've got a problem said the last the first group airplanes took of didn't have a manifest. And the F.A.A. requires us to have a man that's. So the Colonel calm I say you know routine take him in a room get to play very own turn to speak. So the guy had to do zip tap is spent through see one for he was on C one thirty great guy. And then he get down this way say what we can you take off your house it was less airplane took off without no manifest F.A.A. rules or we had to have a manifest. I said Well where do you think we can get a manifest from and I described to you want us to pull up from. These people don't have any identification. Hello They were an hourly house in a million night so not didn't have a den of occasion before this storm. And we're going to tell them in America they can't get on the plane because you keep three I cannot create a manifest you can give me twenty four hours and I can make you know that is a lot surreal prop. I said you know we can't media's. But it's a problem for you. Because we've got a guns and you don't. Reload. He's got the airplanes. And the little boys came out OK. You take responsibility I do and you know to my lawyer said Coleman Washington tell him what's happened because you're so beyond C.N.N. to you know we load it was airplane Well I've done years in the middle of a disaster somebody is going to bring some stupid law is that a stupid law who's in charge of the road going in Atlanta. They can't hear you. The politicians they're all of given each other wards they don't damn know. You understanding are saying we got to fix that so these young people in a room there's a lot of work for you to do regardless of what disciplines you go to be in there's a lot of stuff that need to be fixed we are we are far from a perfect world. And all that create opportunities for you and I hope you take advantage of those opportunities and solve some of these issues. There that we did the greatest generation left a lot of work for you to do the boomers continue to create a work for you because we were bigger cars and less gas mileage and said we create work for you to solve whether you look at it from a medical perspective disasters from the money energy would impact and have to how we be engineered our cities and you've got a lot of problems to fix and I hope your professors who did day there will guide you through that because you've got to fix these problems and it's not option because when we fix them in this country we'll it will be a lead to fix in other countries in this or both think it's a Katrina and I don't mean to talk administration but is the thing that has happened that. At the source of it. That we're losing the war. And we're losing the war over the last three weeks of all going over dumb shit here in United States you know saying like the Texas the. Then more ready as opposed to saying they want ready they try to say well you know we Texas. We doing what the C.D.C. say. You are saying then the C.D.C. did jump in this role that they're going to go out and jump on grenades it's not their job. The C.D.C. ought to be doing a policy in their prevention and making sure we've got the vaccinations be an engineer their job is not to go jump over me. And you can just see it happening. Three nine eleven we did exercises every six months or pandemic epidemics and bioterrorism nine eleven happened and what did our national focus became how to terrorism and that's where the money went we spend sixty billion dollars a year in Homeland Security sixty billion dollars So there's a lot of work for you all to do. And a lot of the solution is to come right out of this great institution because I do think you know put academics before football blushes.