Tonight's event is a collaboration between the author and blank Family Foundation Speaker Series and the Georgia Tech impact Speaker Series. Tonight's media partner is the point one and video recording is brought to us at the Georgia Tech library's a paid service. We're delighted have members outside of the Georgia Tech community with us. Nine. Teachers educational leaders and innovators. As well as members from various high schools and Lana a special welcome to representative the Atlanta girls who were also pleaded have with us tonight from the protagonists from areas most recent documentary tonight we look forward to hearing some of their stories in the coming hour. Those of you have been keeping up with the Winter Olympic Games may be interested to know that our speaker is a Libyan or so haven't competed in the ninety two Olympics in rowing Mary graduated from Holyoke College and Georgetown Law School. Mary is an award winning independent filmmaker attorney and founder and C.E.O. of fifty eggs independent production company after the speaker tonight will have a screening of Mary's most recent documentary titled tonight. So please join us after the speaker in the same room for the screening. Now please join me in welcoming very much. Thank you so much for that lovely introduction. Hello George attack. You tell me if I start talking too loud. It's in my nature. So before I start my remarks I just want to thank you all for hosting me here. I'm delighted to be here. I also want to thank the Arthur Blank Family Foundation. Kenny blankness here in the house and we've got John Barr and Danny shortly for making this happen. And today we're going to talk about being an entrepreneur is all about the hustle and I know many of you are taking entrepreneurship classes your young entrepreneur or as so I'm going to just give you kind of a quick. Snapshot on how I became an entrepreneur and the path and the lessons that I learned along the way. And when I was thinking about this a couple weeks ago I was thinking you know what I really entrepreneurial as a kid like I did a film called lemonade stories where we had Arthur Blank founder of Home Depot in the film and we had Richard Branson and a lot of these guys were what I would call serial entrepreneurs. You know starting businesses and failing and starting and failing and I thought did I was I like that as a kid. And I thought back then I thought OK well when I was five. I would steal my sister's desserts at three younger sisters and I would sell the dessert back for ten cents a piece. And I like start amassing like all these dimes and I thought like of course at the time I didn't think I was being entrepreneurial I thought I was being efficient. And it wasn't until I got caught by my mother who didn't think it was such a good idea that sort of my entrepreneurial instincts sort of cup buried for a little while. Although I was thinking about this last week as well. They really didn't because we didn't get allowances when I was a kid and so I remember my three younger sisters I was like this you know benevolent dictator. I remember having flyers all around the neighborhood saying come to the mozzie Carnival. And you will have horse rides and hayrides And so the place was empty and they didn't know that the horses were going to be my sisters. So I looked at my sister Liz around you know and the neighbors were like How much is this. I'm like a dollar ride and they paid and so that was sort of my first lesson in being entrepreneurial which is if you quote a part. If you quote a price. Sometimes they'll actually pay it. But then I'd say later on I really learned about risk taking which really informed my career as a. Entrepreneur not really through starting businesses but through my athletic career. And I'm going to just take you through that a little bit. When I was in junior high school and in high school I really wanted to be an athlete and I had absolutely no i hand coordination at all. I mean the ball would come and you know I would sort of cringe and and nobody thought I was the last one cut for teams the first one cut and the last one picked for teams and I remember the A lympics would come on and I would something deep inside me. And I'd watch you know like Mark Spitz and Corbett and these remark am dating myself but. These remarkable athletes and I'd like going to this trance and I'd be in the pool and I'd be swimming and they would be like a big ass you know East German on one side and an even bigger ass Russian On the other side and I'm going. And I'm Colin and I'm here in the whistles in the cheering in the Go USA and I say you know I reach out and then I hear the anthem. I'm tearing as they're putting the KU gold medal around my neck. And then I hear Mary. Have you done the dishes yet. And I've been yanked back into a world where I was not an athlete. I was not a hero in fact I played the cello and I would lug this cello onto a yellow school bus with a plaid lunchbox. So not only did I play the cello and not only was I like the worst athlete on the planet but I was such a nerd my social standing was so like you know really the worst I think I remember thinking to myself at that time you know. I need to increase my social standing. What am I going to do. And I thought I thought my thought and this really doesn't have much to do it with risk taking. But it. I'm getting there. And then one day the angel saying and it came upon me. Thing. Cheerleading. And I became a cheerleader and that like rocketed my social standing and with the greatest you know goal rockets and I have my big smile and my split job. I became a cheerleader. That is not one informed my entrepreneurial career. One of the requirements for being a cheerleader at Needham High School go rockets was that before every home game we had to bake for the boys. And if you failed to bake for the boys you would get it to merit ten to merits and you were expelled off the squad. So every time I paid for the boys you know every time I conveniently forgot to bake my brownies and I forgot to bake for the boys to want to marry at six to nine. The only reason I was not expelled is because we had state champ stink cheerleading champions around the corner. And I was the only one who could hold a very by Vaishya us but chunky Laurie McCormick in a standing shoulder mount. That was Lesson number two for me as an entrepreneur Not all rules are meant to be followed. So after that I am now popular but still not an athlete I go off to mock Holyoke College. Armed with my curling iron and my blue eye shadow. It was blue in those days and and I'm walking on campus all women college a man comes up to me and he says. You. I said Yeah he's like your big legs. Yes I do but you be quiet over there. And I said What of it and he said no big legs. We're like big legs come down come down to try out for the rowing team and I thought it's my chance to be an athlete again. So I couldn't sleep all night. I'm so excited. I'm like you know sweating. I'm like really. Can I be an athlete. So I show up the next day and he says there are one hundred fifty women training for twenty spots on this team so and I think I'm enthusiastic. Well he then says I'm going to have you run a mile and a half around upper lake to test your fitness and I thought. The split jumps yet not such great training. So we go around upper lake and I am so last I am so D.F.L. I am like you know coming into the finish like. It is like mortally embarrassing but I'm so he comes up to me and he said you know what. I don't think we really need you to come back tomorrow. And I said this and I said but I said let me come back one more day just one more day he said fine. One more day. And so the next morning I show up and the beautiful thing about rowing is you have to get up at five thirty in the morning. You have to run three miles in the dark to the boat house and then you're you come back. By the end of that first week. Everyone had quit. I made the team and I totally became an athlete by default. So this was Lesson number three that serve me later in life as an entrepreneur. Never take no for an answer. So all of a sudden as you can imagine I become a big fish in a tiny tiny tiny Mongolia call. You know this is like D three were coming in last all the time but those a limbic dreams like those visions were coming back into my head so I started training for the U.S. team and how it. How it works is you show up on a Sunday they evaluate you. And then without saying a word on the next Tuesday. Right. Two days later they post a list on a board with who's getting cut who sucks who's out of there. So. The list goes up and everything running around the board coaches don't say anything to you and there's my name like it seemed at the time huge letters mozzie At the top of the west out of here right. I'm like come back the next year. You know now I'm second list out of here. No leave. And I don't know why I kept coming back and that's a discussion and a conversation I have to have myself but I did. And now it's one nine hundred ninety and it's two years before the Olympic Games. I am on the last cut list. In fact nine hundred ninety I am the last athlete cut and I'm thinking. I'm I leave the I leave the facility. And I'm thinking on two years to go. I got to make this team if I'm going to Barcelona. And. And I'm a pretty upbeat person so I'm like honking as I might you know driving out of the syllabi the Olympic coach says Mary I need to talk to you. They said so. What are you planning to do for the next two years. About all that that's that's a loaded question. That's not good and I said what and and she said look at. I need to be frank with you. We don't think you're tough enough. We don't think you're big enough we do not think you have what it takes to be a member of the Olympic team we like your pink Lycra. We like your hair in sixteen different ponytails you know. We think sometimes you tell funny stories at dinner but we. Just don't think you have what it takes to help us to propel us to gold. So I'm here to tell you this may be a waste of your time and so I'm crushed now I've been cut. I don't know four five years in a row but I'm getting closer and closer and I'm driving home from Princeton and I like you know I pull into the House of Pancakes sobbing like. And I'm devastated and so I'm thinking you know I was a very young lawyer at the time I'm not that good of a lawyer because I'm spending my time training. I'm not that good of an athlete because I have a job. And so I go into the boat house that Monday and I'm thinking OK this is it I've got to make I've got to prioritize. Right. What am I good at. I'm going to clear out my locker. It's been made clear the writing is on the wall. There's I'm not going. So I go into the boat house and a woman is there who said two things that changed my life. And incidentally she was also the topic of my first documentary film but in her name is Chris Ernst she was a two or three time Olympian a veteran at the time I was a rookie and she sees me committed about how she's like What are you doing here. I said she's like I'm like yeah I got cut back out again she said. All right. Suit up we're going to lift. We're going to run stadiums until we puke and then we're going to go to breakfast and I said. Normally that would sound great. Right. And I said. And I said you know what. Chrissy. I'm here to clear out my locker. It's not going to happen. And she said stop it and I'm a bit like being shocked because she was a good friend and she said You are the fastest woman out on the Charles River. But until you believe it. Nothing is going to happen and then what she said changed my life she said. And by the way. What is up with all the excuses you make every time you lose. And I was like I don't make excuses. My God. I made excuses. All the time you know like she's from Harwich going to kick my ass or she's one hundred. And by the way these women these women that I was competing against they were chiseled out of the gods. I mean they were they were you know one hundred ninety one hundred eighty five pound six two these were women. Straight out of I'm going to kick your ass right. Sorry when I go without notes you just I won't drop the F. bomb I promise. So in any event I had an X. and I didn't even realize it that I had an excuse. Every time I lost and I said my God And for me particularly that time in my life I cared a lot about what people thought and my God what would happen if I didn't make the Olympic team and didn't have an excuse like and then I thought about it and I said. Chrissy Do you really think I can make it. She's like suit up now and that day I made the decision that if I was going to do this. I was going to do it honestly I was going to have the courage to fail and fall flat on my face but without excuse and that day I stopped going to parties. I started focusing I stopped training with the men because they were handsome I started. And I went to a sports psychologist because I was the kind of person that would be so destructive I'd be in a race of your where she where she will wear a my right. So this sports psychologist actually had me do exercises that the East Germans and the Russians and the old Iron Curtain athletes used to do which is do math problems in front of blaring television and so he would actually have me go home. He's like this is your homework go home do this math problems have people run around and at first I could do like one problem I'd be like cookies. And he had me put up little stickers and honestly and I felt this way to starting out my business I felt like a fraud complete fraud. He said put up stickers like and so I put up stickers like I'm going to win a gold medal or I'm champion of the world or I'm a tiger. Now we're a note for those of you. It's a great trick take them down before you have a dinner party. I made that mistake in people like your tiger. But at the end of that year I went from being ranked like thirteenth in the country to second and win your second. They can't leave you behind. Right. So they had to take me once again. By default. They had to take me. And for me as you can imagine not having been an athlete and being cut from every fricken junior high. J B You know lead. It was a wonderful affirmation for me to actually be an athlete but as I've reflected over the years. What was really important was I learned how to go for it without excuse and be prepared to fail and to fail. Honestly and I think that's made me into a better person. A better business person. A better mother a better wife because it's all about commitment and that my friends is sort of one of the greatest lessons I learned which is if you're going to commit commit fully and commit without excuse. All right so fast forward. After the Olympics. I started living what I would call a most excellent life. I was a young lawyer and I didn't grow up with money so to be in a big skyscraper law firm I pull into the I pull into the parking lot that was reserved only for senior partners but because I could see. Week in and wicked out wicked Boston accent the parking guys love me and so they would like you know they reserve my little for my little spot at one financial and I go up in my my sister would have my latte. Just so and I was leading this life that was so lovely and wonderful but but really insulated and isolated. And I had this epiphany. A few years later. When I was nine months. Well actually let me back up because at that point when I came back from the Olympics I started writing screenplays. And they were bouncing all over Hollywood and I didn't know this at the time and this is the other great thing about here entrepreneur that youthful enthusiasm naivete write it because if you know what's really this what's really happening. You may never do it. So we're right at people because so I go out to L.A. I get these meetings I'm like I get invited to Paramount and. Turner pictures. I had no in everything that these huge smiles. You're such a talented writer. We're considering your script for development. Little did I know the second I'm out the door like there are deep six in it and some trash like never to be seen again. But I didn't know that. And so at the time I'm thinking this is real. I'm getting close. I'm getting close and for me particularly after after leaving this most excellent like Starbucks latte double cup life. I felt that it was incumbent upon me to give back in some way and that was for me going to be politics or film school and so I looked in my closet. And I said to any skeletons in my closet. Film School. Politics. All right we're going to film school. Now what's funny now is like I look back at my skeletons and compared to what some of these bozos are doing in Washington. Like I was a FOR can choir girl but I didn't know that at the time so I'm like OK I'm going to I'm going to go to law school and I'm. Film school I'm going to do it on the sly. So I'm writing these screenplays really thinking I'm this close to you know a life with a leather jacket in the chair that's got my name and people with bullhorns and you know the whole Farrelly Brothers thing right and. And. So in any of that I have disappeared for me because I'm desperately writing my screenplays and now I'm nineteen months pregnant. Two weeks past due and I'm really uncomfortable my feet are swollen and I go home and and I turn on the television and there's this Victoria's Secret ad campaign. And I mean these women are you know they're gorgeous their blog on and their legs and they're just they their lips and they're going like this under a shower. You know and there I am I mean I'm workin job at the hut. I have my sofa with a secret. I've got my Jojo's and my ring dings and my Doritos and I'm like I'm going or. And I'm watching these Victoria's Secret women change the channel friends. OK Nobody wears a bra. Everybody's like you know and I remember my husband and I'm like muttering I'm having a hormonal moment. And my husband comes in he's like. What's wrong and we were going to have a girl a baby baby girl and I said my. One. And he said OK come down brief. I know what will fix this. I said there's nothing out there for Daisy. There's nothing out there that says she can get dirty or sweaty This is awful. He said I'm going to fix it. I said this is why Mary. He runs out comes back in about an hour later with two fish food. Courts. And he's like does this fix it and I said it does for now. So that night became for me it was like I had these goggles that came on I was about to have a baby girl I was like holy you know this is what she's going to grow up with and that really really catapulted me into action and that's when I really became an entrepreneur or I made my first film which was called a hero for Daisy. And that film chronicled Chris Ernst. Who was also Captain not only being a three time Olympian but she was also captain of her yellow rowing team. And these women were articulate and eccentric they went to Yale right after you know it gone coed and Yale was completely unprepared for women and so Chris told me the story in the locker room and she said and I was only like ten at the time it happened but she said Did you hear about and what happened was there were no facilities for the women no locker rooms and the women and this was about rowing which is I loved it. Right. And so she's like we'd ride out on the bus with the men. We'd train in the wind in the rain in the snow and then we'd get on an unheated bus and wait for every last man to shower. And I said Ha. And she said of the men would come out with steaming paying and then we drive back to bus because you see we were not allowed to use the men shower because it was the men shower and I said wow that's really bad. She's like we were getting pneumonia and we tried diplomatic changes at the university. We met with the president and it was thank you for bringing this to our attention. The wheels of change grind slowly here at Yale University and and so finally by her senior year two of these women were going to go on to the seventy six Olympic Games. The men were losing all of their races having steak and trainers the women were were winning all of theirs and they were on this unheated bus. And they said you know what we are going to take matters into our. Own hands and they stormed the athletic director's office stripped Title nine in blue magic marker on breasts and backs. And it was a single click of a photograph that like when around the world Yale women strip in one thousand nine hundred six. And the outpour was so remarkable. It was you know alumni sending in checks to get those women to put their clothes back on you know please you're talking the women got their locker rooms two weeks later and when I heard this story. I laughed and I said you did what and I said OK I've gone to women's college. I'm an elite row or how did I miss this great piece of history and so that was the story that really catapulted my career as an entrepreneur and it was so scary because you know it's all coming back to it's all about the hustle. You know I did. Again my youth will naive if I had no idea how expensive the media was going to be I had no idea the sacrifices I just clueless. And I don't into it with youthful abandon in really what was a pregnancy hormonal induced moment and like I said before had I known what was going to be ahead. I don't know that I ever would have done it because if it were easy to do. Everybody would be doing it right. And I had no idea. So I think that let that last lesson make sure that is my last lesson. Yet that is my last lesson so you know it really comes down to if it's something that you care deeply about you know life is short. You got to do what you love even if it's scary as hell and it was really scary because we were about to take a dive into the college fund. You know and I remember turning to my husband and he said. So this is our college fund for the kids right. And I said. Well I've been at this law firm and you know some of that's a little bit of blood money I think I need to do this. And we had investors. We had and we had nothing not a single distributor not press and that experience really taught me what an entrepreneur is all about which is you're hustling for everything you're hustling for money you're hustling for distributors you are hustling like crazy for press and fortunately for us the prey to the press went crazy over that film and it allowed me to keep my day job so fast forward now. Five films later. Each one has been bigger than the you know in terms of press and exposure and for those of for those of you that stay later my latest film Ten nine eight is a film that I think I'm most proud of and it's been the most meaningful film that I've worked on and that film is about inner city kids from all over the country so Side of Chicago Harlem Baltimore. Who prepare for and compete in a nationwide business plan competition and what they learn changes their lives and changes their destinies. And this film. We started out once again we had some commitment for distribution but it wasn't satisfactory to me and we were able to strike an unprecedented arrangement with Again it's the hustle. It's the work in the Rolodex and a friend of mine was on the board of AMC Theaters and he said hey you know pal mine's president see theaters. I said hey what can I talk to him and apparently And so the president programming Bob Lenahan calls me he says we love this film. Can we have an exclusive. I said I'm going to have to get back to you and I can upload. Because you have to play the game people right. So I hang up the phone because I didn't want him to think I was too anxious. Even though I was like frickin hyperventilating. So I hang the phone count to like one day. Call him back and I said So what are the terms. Right. Very like what are the terms and then silence because that's a no I'm sure you guys know this trick right that awkward you like whenever you're negotiating for money for anything. Be silent because the other party will feel that need to speak and fill that void right. So I'm silent and I'm a talker. Right. And so I'm counting to one two three. And he said we'll hear the terms that we'd like to bubble bubble and I said don't lock it in now what I didn't realize was that no other filmmaker has ever gone directly to the theater chain. I've always gone through distributors and and the press they were like that. You know Fortune was like that was so boldly entrepreneurial and. And I'm like well it was kind of it was the hustle. It was how my going to get my film seen and can we get a state of the art theater chain that's everywhere and what kind of deal does that look like and will they do free screenings for educators on you know when we open so fast forward to today am See we entered into this deal with AMC We opened in eight cities and that gave us such robust press. I mean Financial Times. Forbes Fortune New York Times the gods smiled down on us and we struck a tough television deal with BT and Viacom. And we just found out a couple of weeks ago that the film will be headed to the White House. So it's been sort of an extraordinary extraordinary trajectory for this film. And it's all the result I think of I think all those lessons that I learned which is you know never take no for an answer. Be prepared to lay it out and fail on your face and but fail on. Slee. And it's all about commitment. You know do what you say Say what you do and don't let yourself get distracted because if you commit even if you don't achieve that goal good things will happen so even if I had never made the Olympic team. Something good will have happened just from that lesson of commitment. So I think with that I will open it up to questions and answers. I'd also like to introduce I've got two friends here that actually are in the movie Ten nine eight that are here with me today. Jasmine Lawrence is is a freshman at Georgia Tech just we just stand up. Jasmine by the way an extraordinary young entrepreneur she started business when she was thirteen her hair fell out after she used to Hara laxer and Jasmine started researching organic components dabbling dabbling experimenting. I mean this is remarkable for a thirteen year old she found a compound where her hair started to grow back. So word of mouth spread people were using it. People that had balding you know other hair relaxer problems cancer patients and Jasmine went on Oprah. Which just cranks her business into being carried by Wal-Mart and her some of our products at both Wal-Mart and Whole Foods. So that's my friend Jasmine just a rock star. And sitting next to Jasmine and sitting next to Jasmine is my good friend a philosopher Rodney Walker. We just stand up. Rodney participated in this contest this year. So for those of you that are going to see the film I will not share a story except to say that Rodney is such an inspirational person he came he was born in the South Side of Chicago went through the foster. You know incredible odds and obstacles almost didn't graduate from high school and completely turned around his career by discovering entrepreneurship and how to start a business and IT reengage him and he's now on the dean's list at Morehouse so hopefully I'll have a chance to talk to Ron We love that letter. So why don't I open it up to you for questions it can be anything about filmmaking be anything about entrepreneurship it can be you know whatever your pleasure. And we have a roving Mike to do we have to roving mikes were prepared. Yes we've got a gentleman any blue sweater. Hi Thank you so much for being here. Thank you. Thanks for having me. You spoke is a beautiful school by the way. Absolutely. It's gorgeous. You spoke about kind of starting the film company while you kept your day job. And a lot of kind of entrepreneurial lore. Kind of paste this picture of the entrepreneur who chucks everything to the when the right. Runs out and found and starts a company. Can you talk a little bit about. If you were to give advice to young entrepreneurs how to assess. The right time and when it's time to kind of jump out of the plane and and that is a great question because many entrepreneurs they do exactly that they sort of shoot from the hip. Take a big dive and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Honestly I'm not one of those people. I was a young lawyer and so I hedged my bets. I went to film school on the sly. None of my partners knew that my law firm. My first film came out I didn't tell anybody because if it was a bomb right if nobody came to see it. OK and still are right. I'm still gainfully employed. And it wasn't until the New York Times ran Sunday New York Times have page an article with us. Story about my film. Star getting what have you been doing on the journey. And I was out of that way. And but even then I took a leave for a year. I did not say I'm going to quit. Although I will tell you that when I came back from the Olympics. I said to my husband. I don't think I can go back to being a real estate lawyer. Like I don't know that I can do this and I'm going to go to film school or politics. Film School. I'm going to go to film school and just exe do exactly what you had suggested right just casual my chips and and my husband and this is the other thing about being an entrepreneur you really need to have like a partner that you can like talk you out of stupid ideas and he said to me he said go bar time like part time. You know. And he said no go part time and I said and he said. You are so close to being a partner of your law firm now for me. That was still four years away. It was like incredibly forever. And I said and he said Just trust me you will build your sphere of influence. If you're a partner of a law firm people might not think you're qualified to make a film but at least they'll know that you were you know you were good at something. And in fact that's exactly what I did and what was interesting about that choice was my first investors were clients or friends of clients because they were like well she's a good lawyer. So we don't know if you can you know do anything over here but. So in fact having a slightly more cautious approach for me works because I was able to build up my credibility so excellent question. Yeah thank you. Where do you get your inspiration for the next film. That's a great question. I think particularly when you're a filmmaker you have to work on what burns brightest because it's like having a child. The amount of money. Effort energy that goes into making these projects and it's public it's on display for everybody that you know either love or hate. So I try and pick projects that are personally meaningful to me. Or that I think and that I think will garner extraordinary press and then I think I have a strategy for getting people to see it because if you bumble into something it's all I got you know there are a lot of filmmakers that do wonderful work there are a lot of filmmakers that are working out something on the screen that they should be working out on a couch lying down right. Talking to someone and I think that's sort of a bad business strategy. You know whether I'm selling a film or a widget or a house you really need a cohesive strategy. And you also need your elevator speech right so that you can hide again it's all about your how you're selling your motivating you're engaging and you need that hustle you know that that eight hundred second elevator speech. So thank you for that question. Yes. I have a film question and that is whatever I see it feel. I'll see three or four names that will say producer and then ten names as executive producer help me understand those roles and responsibilities in terms of creativity or financial contribution. That's a great question. You'll see like sometimes you'll see like ten executive producers and typically in the old days executive producers were reserved to those who would raise the money. So in the old days you'd see one or two now it's the manager of a star. It's the sometimes the agent of a star. Well I'm going to need executive producer credit if I'm going to have my star in this movie. So it may be the booking agent if it's based on a literary work. So that's actually a great question because in film like when I get resumes and I see like associate producer. OK an associate producer could have been getting the bagels and been a production assistant right or they could be arranging permits. So frankly every title when you see on a movie should just be suspect. Right. Yes right here. How did you choose the title and so ten nine eight. There were two reasons I chose this this particular title One is it's ten with the number nine and then. And that is because every nine seconds a kid drops out of high school and the movie is really contemplating what if that weren't the case. But the bigger meaning to this was I was in the shower and I was like kids get entrepreneurial or kids start their business like you know. Yawn. Right. You need an exciting title and I was thinking that that really what these kids in the film were doing they were blasting off. They're like rockets and what happens before you count down ten nine eight. So for me. That was the real motivation behind the title that these were kids that were going to take off not a raise. Going to make it but they're all going to take off. So yes. What connected me to the competition. That's a great question. I had actually I had made a movie called lemonade stories. Right before our two films before this that started you know Arthur Blank as I mentioned before and Russell Simmons from Def Jam and Richard Branson and. And I loved all of these entrepreneurs in the film and I was screaming at I forget what event or maybe I was on the radio or something and the founder of nifty the National Foundation for Teaching Entrepreneurship was in the audience. He came up to me said I love this movie. He said but everybody in this movie is famous he said I have a program where I'm going to inner cities and my entrepreneurs I'm teaching kids to be entrepreneurs and they're not famous and they're not making a lot of money. You know would you ever consider and I said yes. That's him. That is and that is something that got me so excited because it gave me the opportunity to talk about race and class and privilege in a single film but in a really uplifting way in a way that made sense to me in a way that I thought you know everybody's afraid to talk about race and class these days and for fear of being politically incorrect or for fear of just appearing completely ignorant. Right which a lot of people are so I wanted to talk about in a way that I thought was uplifting and inspirational and. And I learned so much in the process. I mean we went into some of the most challenging neighborhoods in America. And I had a certain preconception of the inner city right who and what made up the inner city. And I I was I think I was telling Danny earlier that you know when we when I make documentary films we actually have a large crew we have like fifteen or twenty people. That's like huge in the documentary world but that's you know how we roll. And and so we were going to these neighborhoods and my D.P. my Director of Photography said to me you know do you think we need security because we've got a you know expensive equipment and we're renting it we don't own it and. And I said you know if we go in and I have two guys whose necks are thicker than their heads. You know they look like I'm sending a message that I think might not be productive and I said no we're not we're not going to do it and I was shocked at how hospitable how embraced I was so that by the end of the project now there are certain neighborhoods that nobody should go at certain times and you know at night. But I felt so comfortable in these neighborhoods that I I learned a lot about my own preconceptions. So thank you for that question right. Hi Great Bill. I just wanted to you said fortunately for you. The fullest bit of land there with the press right. But what if it hadn't but used it up on to you. That's a great question because as I said before when I was. Younger. What people thought of me meant a whole like right I care a lot. I think I would've been crushed like a bug would have negative reviews and I say that now because every review thankfully was positive from the press. But I'm not you know and for the most part the press has been so kind but there have been times where the press has been vicious and frankly with my first film I'm so glad I was kind of protected because I don't know what I would have done. I remember going into class and. And it was a college class and they were discussing one of my movies they knew I was there so the kid know and the teacher's a fan. So what do you think of Mary's work in the kids like. Yeah I thought it was kind of I don't know. I'm so I'm. I'm thinking you know I'm right in front of you and he's like I thought it was kind of too melodramatic. You know some something like that and it's in the press or said you have a response and I said well let me put it this way. USA Today says it's a tour de force. So if some schmoe from you know. He's like I'm right here. So that's an excellent question because in hindsight I would have been crushed what I have kept going. You know what I think I would've And that's because this medium is so precious. It's like how you know Fred Rogers from Mr Rogers' Neighborhood once said that that it's like sacred ground from here to the viewer. And the response and the impact that my films have had from girls feeling better about being tall or heavy or you know a kid in the inner city seeing this in Johnson Crenshaw seeing ten nine eight and saying you know what I'm going to stay in school right like whatever that is you're having a profound impact on human life. So I would hope that I would be big enough as a person had that happened early in my career that I would have kept going on but I. Honestly couldn't tell you. Yes. It was well thank you once again for coming. Thank you. It was really inspirational just listening to you and best of luck in the future. Thank you. I appreciate that. Best of luck to you. Thank you thank you. I have the go viral way. One is why do you call yourself your company fifteen and that is a great question. Can I answer that before you answer. I was going to and it's bad. I'm having senior moments you know when I I hope you didn't catch but when I like there was a moment when there was like a really pregnant pause. I was for who knows where I was like that happens every once in a while. What was the question. So fifty eggs. I I was going to name and I swear to god I was going to name my company Medusa's revenge. Once again my husband said to me he's like if you have a logo with a woman with snakes coming out of her head. Do you think you're going to get any corporate funding and I said you're right and he said Cool Hand Luke that's your favorite movie you have any of you guys seen at the old Paul Newman movie yes this man back here. Well there's a scene in it where everybody bets that Paul Newman's character cannot eat fifty eggs. And my husband was like that's you know everybody says it can't be done and you keep eating those eggs and I was like fifty yards perfect. Thank you love. So that was the name of my company and what's funny about that is that name. I remember I was talking to Steve McQueen I did a film with famous athletes in it with like Shaquille O'Neal and Drew Bledsoe and I was trying to get through to Steve McNair was like right before the Super Bowl and this is Mary Miles you're from fifty eight his agent picked it up and said fifty one eggs was the. Picks up the phone himself as a lot of these guys won't take calls and I'm like I had ten seconds and I'm like never heard of him right. I sold him on a concept and he patch me in to see McNair right like right then and there and I was like thank god I didn't I didn't call with Medusa's. He never want to take him out. So you had another question. And that was like shown internationally or you know. Had only been shown in the US. No they have primarily been my first to you know. So a hero for Daisy it. I've seen it in Europe being used in Europe and it's ordered in Europe apple pie which is about athlete really famous athletes but they were all American athletes. That's been really domestic but lemonade stories which is about you know entrepreneurs we've seen that you know it was broadcast in Asia and Hong Kong and. The Middle East. This particular fan is being shown has been shown already Germany Dubai all over the world. And so and I'm getting calls from like the Moroccan embassy called and said we need your movie Ten nine eight and I said what's going on. They said well we're having a youthful you know civil unrest with young people who are out of work and they you know there's extraordinary poverty and we want to show them your film. So I'm actually seeing with this particular film now this is new so I expected to kind of fully continue but we're seeing a lot of international demand for this which is really exciting. Yeah thank you yes. That is a great question and the question was he noticed that I have a lot of sponsors and companies that I do business with and do I ever compromise my story line that is such a great question. To date. The answer is No but I will tell you that I was recently called in by a Fortune one hundred company and they said You do really. Interesting work and can you do something novel on Women's Health said would love it perfect. I have all these ideas and we're sitting at a table at an ad agency. Right. So you can imagine right now we've got fifty people young at Exact who are all justifying justifying their paycheck and by the way you know looking like the coolest of cool right. I walk in like this. I'm such a dork compared to all of them you know so I'm sitting at the table and and all of a sudden the concept moves from a documentary or a project that Mary will do to one of them looks at me and you know cocks her head. She's like well could you do like Extreme Home make over. And I almost thought about it till I was like how big is this paycheck. So the short answer is I have not today. And I hope that I wouldn't and I don't think one of the conditions actually contractually that I put in every agreement is that I have full editorial control full creative control. And that's so critical especially in T.V. and I do this. That's actually raises another really interesting question. When you err on television and when you are in the entertainment world you are swimming with barracudas. And if you don't have your wits about you they will eat you alive. And so I remember negotiating with a network to be unnamed and I love them all but they said what do you mean you're retaining full editorial control and I said well we brought a sponsor we brought money we want to sponsor into this you're not paying you know you don't have to underwrite the cost of the production. They said We always you know have editorial rights and I said well you don't. Today and you know and they didn't because they didn't underwrite the production but friends of mine that are producers that have let's say you know made programs for networks. They give up those rights and that's very painful because you have to make every change the network asked for whether it's ridiculous or not. So one of the reasons how I get around that is I try and have independent funding. So that I'm dictating when you go to a network. And you have a program that's fully funded. That's a completely different conversation than groveling on your knees and say please pay me to make X.. And so I have always opted for the for the you know for the latter. But great question. Thank you. We've got in that I'm coming back to you. Yes. Julia presentation. Thank you. It was great. I have a question back to where you were kind of the people who give you a moment where you were you know working on your movies but then also a law firm in the you said you had to make some sacrifice in terms of going out and things like that. So you know they had to say no work no play makes you a dull boy or girl you know how how much. How much do you have to balance you know you know what that's a really good question. And when you're dealing with somebody like me. It's that's really hard because I'm a workaholic. I'm super hyper. You know my Has my kids say to me Are you the boss of your own company. You know I can't come to your game aren't sure the boss of your own company. My daughter will say OK I'll make it for the second half right. That is so I think when you're an entrepreneur. Honestly and you're running your own business. I think in the beginning years. It's there is not a lot of balance and that's really hard. As I mentioned you before like leaning on my husband particularly in the early years. I mean you know when you're an entrepreneur you're like a lone wolf and that can be really hard. So I try and surround myself with people that are good advisers around me that I can constantly bounce ideas off of but even today I struggle with that concept of balance and I try now to take a break in between projects and to limit my travel schedule just precisely so that I have family time and time to chill out and relax because I can only take so much excitement. So that's an eye. QUESTION It's one that I frankly struggle with today. We have time for one final question. Yes. Well. That's a great question. Yes I think the only unique thing to be I think anybody can be an entrepreneur. I don't think you're born with it. I think what you need is energy and commitment that's what you need. And if you're not a charismatic person you can work on that right because you are selling selling selling so when I think of an entrepreneur I really think of a salesperson. Because that's what we're what we do we sell you know this way that way this way that way you know the dishes are in the air sell self but I think that those skills can be as long as you're true to your personality and your who you are then you can make that work for you. So if you're a very quiet Jimmy your quiet person. You can still build very very powerful relationships. So I think that there is no hustle gene but yes that it can be learned. So great. Thank you for that. Kelly just let me ask one question after the last question and that is I wanted to get to the level of you saying that you know the film is coming to the White House and we know that Department of Education is interested in the film. What is it about entrepreneurship that they see as potentially creating alternative futures. That's a great question. I think people are really excited about entrepreneurship because what it does for young people you know when you go into an inner city school with extraordinary poverty. You might have kids living in the most challenging of circumstances you might have kids you know sometimes dodging bullets. Sometimes their stomachs are hungry when they come to school when you. Say that child. Here's your trigonometry lesson or here's your chance or lesson that there's no relevance to their life. But when you take a kid and you say buy a watch for five we're going to wholesale go to down to the wholesale district buy a watch for five sell it for twenty that kid all of a sudden has money in their pocket they can go to Burger King they can feed themselves they don't have hungry tummy and what that does is it reengages the basic building blocks of learning. They have to learn math but now there's a reason to learn math. They have to learn English and what I think is even more exciting is that there's a whole cascading of skills that comes behind that kid also has to learn communication skills negotiation. You know am I going to get my grandmother work for me I'm going to get my little sister to take a shift who you know who's going to put the labels on my lotion. So I think that there is unlike you know like math you learn math in English you learn English. What's wonderful about this is it reignites and reenergizes kids around those basic building blocks. Plus you get you know negotiation skills and communication skills and presentation skills and OK how do I have to dress. If I'm going to if I'm going to try to get a store to sell my lotion. Right. So I think there's a whole basket of skills that comes along with it and I think that's why. Terry was just asking why the department. We've gotten calls from the Department of Education in the Department of Treasury. Really excited about the film as sort of a launching pad for getting young kids excited about entrepreneurship precisely for that reason because it really really reengages them around learning. So thanks Georgia Tech. Thank you for having a thank.