Let's give a warm Georgia Tech Welcome to our guests. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the introduction I'm going to stand back here just begin with her all this because I think I asked my staff. Because I know we have a lot of folks at Georgia Tech that are involved at the food bank and I just want to share some of those numbers we're about a mile from here north. Near. Joseph Lowery both of our so very close by. Georgia Tech and let me start out by saying there are I think twenty eight colleges and universities in the Atlanta area could be more georgia tech provides more volunteers than any other college or university in the metro Atlanta area last year provided six hundred sixteen hundred and forty six hours of volunteer time and we use over a thousand volunteers a month so that's no small thing so give yourself a hand start out with. Circle K.. Language Institute you were the volunteer group of the year. And really just recruiting all you guys if you hadn't been volunteering at the food bank to come on over. I also wanted to say that I tol in the school of management school many many years ago Thank you guys for in about the third grade but I taught a semester here and really taught graduate students talking about management and social responsibility so I'm going to hit on some of those themes today about if you're going to go out and be a leader and be a manager in the key. Munity the I think the value of being involved in community. It's Georgia Tech and pulleys people that work at Georgia Tech both professors in the professional staff also gave the most money through the state system to the food bank. And lastly I have a group through the school for industrial and systems engineering graduate students who are working with me this semester and their assignment they get graded on saving me one hundred thousand dollars this mask so if they come through we're all going to be good so that's the way I wanted to start is to just thank Georgia Tech it's been a great relationship through the years both with graduate students with volunteers with donations and ways that we work together. Now there and said I came to Atlanta in one thousand nine hundred seventy four to go to graduate school Ridgeley from North Carolina grew up in a small town of about eight hundred people had never lived in a city before in fact didn't plan on living and staying here in Atlanta I was going back to live in western North Carolina but having come here for graduate school. I found a call to serve. Now I was not voted the most likely to succeed in high school in fact I barely got out of high school I joined the service when I was seventeen and spent four years in the Air Force spent about two years in Southeast Asia and Vietnam and came back from that pretty scarred like we all do if we go into war that at that young age but knew that. I wanted to go to school I was the first one of my family to ever go to college so I didn't have a. Not a role models but I did have a lot of expectation on me that having gone through the service that the G.I. Bill would pay for my college and they did so I went to business school. And got a degree in Business Administration. And then I went on and got a degree to teach business. In community colleges it was a specialized degree in North Carolina but by that time I didn't really believe in business. And this is the late sixty's early seventy's this is you know when your parents were young people my age and there was a lot going on in the country I was that kid even back in middle school and high school that always ask why and why not even in an inappropriate times never was very endearing when I asked those questions but they serve me well as I went on to graduate school I studied psychology and counseling and by that time in my life was really focused own my spiritual life and what I wanted to do and I had no idea often tell kids an undergraduate school you know to keep stand in school till it count rises up in you for myself I used to come to Atlanta this is one nine hundred seventy four. And I always get Walsh when I came into town and I used to go down to the King Center. Actually there was no King Center Back then there was just the two of picket fence the tree that King played on right beside Ebenezer Baptist Church and gravel one even pay so this was before they raised the money and created a center and you know I now I think it's the second most visited national park in the country. I used to go and circumvent the gray. And. QUESTION I was asking myself and I was very seriously asking and you know I'm twenty five twenty six years old now. And got married hadn't gotten a real job my parents were getting pretty worried about me but now if you know are you going to settle into anything the question I asked myself was what was I willing to die for just as Dr King had given his life and inspired me I asked that question of myself what am I willing to die for. And still did not get answers so I came to Atlanta and started a community down on tenth Street and started working with the homeless in Vietnam veterans I give you the story because a lot of times you don't know in middle school high school college sometimes even in your thirty's exactly what it is that you want to really devote your life to so that discernment process and that questioning I think is very important. So in starting a community of people we took in homeless and mentally ill people in our home we started feeding people down in the Piedmont Park we were across the street back here. Not having any sport really no money. I ended up volunteer and at a downtown church St Luke's of fiscal church. And this is nineteen seventy five now so very soon I was the lead volunteer and within a year I had the director of community Ministries a new position at the church and what I knew at that point was I. Love to make soup I love to work with volunteers I love to serve people just as simple as that again had no idea that it would turn into a career that I would be managing anything other than you know serving several hundred. Well today but after a couple of years in the community kitchen we were up to three and four hundred people a day and we were having to feed about seventy five people at a time and then get those out and bring seventy five more people and I realized this was really not conducive for transformational work for ministry so I went all over town and ass congregations churches of all sizes shapes black and white all denominations all faith groups and I promised them all the food they needed. If they would open their doors to the homeless. Thinking maybe one of them would have a conversation with me. A lot of them responded and the only problem was at that point is I didn't have any food and I didn't even have a program I just went out and said you know we can do this so having got a positive response I thought. I've got to go do it now. I make that point because that's one way to begin a business you go out and promise people you're going to deliver a product and then go back and after deliver the product it's kind of stressful that way it's better to plan ahead but it worked at that point so they gave me the basement of the church was a room about this big no no offices it was just about one hundred twenty year old building I started a food bank and it was an idea that was going on in about ten cities in the country I didn't know any of those folks never heard of the term food bank we were just starting one here and then soon found out that there were about a dozen of us and we met we created an organization called Feeding America back in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine. The first thing I did because I'm going to have to produce some food because I went to the food industry I went to the grocery store chain here it was owned by. Family Back then the ultimate family I went to them and I gave them my big idea is that how sincere out was and how much I really wanted to help the most needy people in the community. They just kick me right out of the office he said we don't give away food we're selling food that's what are our business model is to sell food. First lesson for me. I. Had to learn the business of the people that I wanted to help me so I had to learn what are the issues or the stresses in the grocery business where I could be part of their business model I had to offer them a business proposition not just go to him with a moral issue I mean they could say they could give the United Way or have their employees volunteer but they weren't going to give me prop unless I could help them so the beginning of the food bank was me learning the grocery business. It was me learning their big stresses how do we control our inventory we've got one hundred stores around the city. And they make a mistake in the grocery store. They can throw it in the dumpster and they'd never know in the main office for weeks or months so the first thing we did was figure out how could we track that product. Anything that was donated to me I had to inventory and have them hand them an inventory slip back and say each store I could tell you how much product you're not selling. So I had a business proposition right. And I need you guys to answer a little bit it women. So in any nonprofit are any business that you're in for profit or non not for profit you need to figure out what the rules are in that business and you had to figure out a business proposition where you're creating a one. Win Win sustainable relationship over time so the motto of the food bank is to collect unmarketable product and distribute it to community based organizations. I started out with about thirty organizations and about four thousand square feet. Had a pick up truck that had been taken off the road at Georgia Power and you know they were discarding it and asked how I began and again I thought you know I'll spend a year or so doing this kind of learning it and then move on to the next thing but funny thing happened in the meantime. I really like the business and I really like the people we were serving the idea is that a congregation or nonprofit organization can come to the food bank and get whatever product we had donated. Now shift thirty one years later Aaron to introduction he mentioned one hundred twenty nine thousand square foot facility and I also have a sixty thousand square foot so I have about. One hundred fifty thousand and most two hundred thousand square feet of warehouse space today started with four have almost two hundred today and what's happened through the years is we have created our capacity we've created a capacity to work with different constituencies in different parts of the community. Let me mention a couple of programs that we work with while we got in those and then maybe some of the qualities that I found are important to be successful. In any good business today. In a good business today is going to be mission centered for profit or not for profit you're going to have a mission or some type of principles or something that you measure everything against So at the Food Bank there's nothing an arm. Mission about trucks I have about fifteen sixteen seventeen trucks out on the road every day will handle about twenty eight twenty nine thirty million pounds of food this year there's nothing in my mission about trucks and warehouses and agencies the mission at the food bank is to engage. Educate and empower the community to fight hunger. To engage educate empower the community fight hunger so my mission is not about the mechanics it's about how do I get the community involved in what we do we'll have some Q. and A later but you could take any business and we could break it down and they're going to figure out who their constituency are who their customers are and they're going to figure out a way to measure that of whether they're doing a good job figure out the metrics. So we've created a number of programs at the food bank our core business is to collect and distribute food product. So everything else we do is based on that core business if we don't do well with our core business and of other programs are going to do well. We're able to measure for instance the return on investment at the food bank we have about a sixteen a half million dollar budget of about one hundred twenty full time staff people that work there now use over one thousand volunteers every month which is worth about twenty eight staff people I don't have to pay or do in real time work. So the return only investment at the food bank is every dollar someone would invest in the food bank and in our case since we are bank we used banking terms we talk about return on investment I don't want you to give me money I don't even want you to donate money I want you to invest in our work so the investment at the food bank pays off we get about two dollars an A I mean seven dollars. And eighty cents worth of food out the door for every dollar that people invest in the food bank good return on investment. And if you're going to the community today you can you can make the moral argument it's the right thing to do but what people are looking at now with more to do and less money and a lot of cynicism about who to trust. You've got to show people what's going to happen if they invested. What good is going to happen out there in the community so core business dollar equal seven dollars and eighty cents worth of work. As we started thinking about who are the partners we're going to need out there we first great partner in Atlanta community is the hospitality industry and they were a big hospitality town a big convention town better to have them on your side and us to be the charity of choice then. Then Them not know who we are not care about hungry people one of the things for them is if there's homeless people out there on the street it's not good for business so we had a conversation right away but we started a program called Atlanta's table. Now the program where we pick up catered food our food from restaurants or food from hotels or food from the World Congress Center it's already been cooked and we pick it up and deliver it the same day to agencies ready just like out of your refrigerator you might have made it this morning going to eat it tonight or eat it the next day but to get that done we had to deal with issues of what happened of some I get sick ability issues. What about the logistics WHAT ABOUT HOW DO YOU GOING TO judiciously handle this what's going to happen to our reputation if somebody finds out something went wrong what's the health department going to stay so any time you approach a partner. That way you've got to figure out just like I did with the grocery store what are your issues in this case we actually got of all passed the Good Samaritan food. Which is now been passed by Congress it's a national law but we got the first one passed here in Georgia. And said that the donor donates to the food bank is released of building. So no matter what happens to that food and where is the law building go I take the law building. OK I've got insurance when I got on my side and mostly we really watch what we do judiciously handle the food somebody has got to accept it and you've got to take it all for that dollar the donor has deep pockets we don't. So and Lana's table became the charity of choice for the hospitality industry in fact we got U.P.S. to invest in the model when we created a whole national network out of the Atlanta food bank called food chain we created by one hundred twenty five Seattle table Alice table great about one hundred twenty five of these around the country in they eventually merged into Second Harvest which is now called Feeding America that's our national network of food banks So today there are two hundred three food banks we have seven of them here in Georgia and we collaborate we share product with H. other we share best practices and we particularly share when we have problems how do we solve them so another program that we started was community gardening. We've built over one hundred forty community gardens. And has a constituency for community gardens. Think about. Lana's table it was the hospitality industry community gardens who would be interested in that. Well usually urban farmers people that are growing gardens. But community gardens are where a group of people come together and all have a plot so we have community gardens in congregational yards we've got gardens and schools as teaching gardens we've got with one hundred forty and we've got them all over the city looks like a really cool idea today because food costs are hot food costs are going to go up with fuel prices going up you know so everybody's want to do gardening you know twenty some years ago. It was kind of a new idea but the constituent say there is neighborhoods and people live in that community level. So each program that I'm talking about has a constituency. Has a way to measure success. It is relevant timely to the community and people understand if they invest in it what they're going to get out of it. We've created a program called Kids in need and it's a big store with school supplies. It's a while school supplies and a food bank same kids from the same families never have the school supplies it's a product that there's a lot of waste this year we're going to help over twenty five hundred up to close to three thousand individual teachers and we have a store about the size of this room with brand new school supplies and teachers can come in and shop. OK so we're an eight school systems now two hundred ninety eight schools and it's a free school supply for school teachers and you think about being school teachers you have to buy your own supplies nowadays they don't supply your classroom bomb yourself. There's a constituency why would we do school supply program with food bank. Going to help me out here I'm just talking to myself think about school supplies there's a constituency teachers. Student principals P.T.A.'s all the volunteers at school let me think about that as thousands of people that are thinking very well the food bank they all are potential donors they're all potential volunteers they're all potential helping they find the supply us we only handle new stuff so when you go in it's like walking into office depot. We have traction trade shows at the World Congress Center when they have office and school supplies and they've gotten five six seven tractor trailer loads of brand new school supplies out of a trade show. Now why can I get into the World Congress Center with security badges walk as I have Atlanta stable and know that industry and they trust me. So they let us in. That's connected to that our product rescue center we use over a thousand volunteers a month take volunteers as young as eight years old so that families can come together so again groups come together so we have a lot of university students come down here you can down a Friday night volunteer and then go out have a beer and pizza or whatever you know it's a social experience you're doing real good we measure what we do it translated into the number of families we serve so you feel like it's a meaningful experience. We created a program called the prosperity campaign in there were helping working people. With their taxes and with their own benefits so if you make less than a certain amount this year I think it's forty two thousand dollars with a family of four if you Mike less than that you get an earned benefit you get a tax return. Either you may not know about it or you're going to pay a tax service a lot of money to do that work I've got sixty sites or. Around the city run by volunteers. This year or this last year we're in the middle taxis now we've brought in over eighteen million dollars back to the community. Now which industries are paying those wages hospitality industry the food industry health care industry and retail OK Wow those are the those are the industries I'm working with so I could go to the hotel Council and eye and say we've got a deal for you all your employees that are eligible for this will do their taxes for free you can tell it was your idea you're given him a pay raise and I so each of these stories I'm making a connection for you why there's a constituency out there what we need to do to do that program and of course we've done earned benefits around food stamps and other benefits that the technology to do all that now. So is I think about the things that has made the food bank successful. One is if you're going to be a leader you've got to be a good communicator. You've got to have passion for what you do. You've got to work in the context of community. It's work a burning out otherwise and if you're going to go in the business world little burned out if you don't work in the context of community and have support. You've got to be able to facilitate problem solving and I know you go through college and don't take a communication course of facilitation course like you can get out of management school without taking those courses I can tell you that that having the skill sets to be some of the most important skill set Scituate have as a leader in the community. You've got to as I ask in. My early days what I was willing to give my life to you got to reframe the question and say What am I willing to live for a in when you ask that larger question not what am I willing to die for dying is easy living is harder you find out as you get older that you've got to keep studying you've got to exercise you've got to stay healthy you've got to eat right you've got to surround yourself with other people. So to be a leader you've got to have those basic basic commitments so you might have calm basic disciplines go forward tell me what time we are so that I know because I. OK so. Now. OK What were you guys going to do Q. and A with me since you hadn't answered my question so far but I'm giving you five minutes notice here I'm going to go back to the point that I just made about having passion and commitment for the work. I grew up over confident. Ask an inappropriate questions but underneath being very shy. Now I know I'm up here given a lecture and I give them all the time now. Basically I'm a shop person. So as I got into my work actually I got a teaching degree this was indication of how I can fanatical things I remember I was so afraid to get in front of my class. And this is in college to do student teaching that I figured out to go to a president of a university and tell him I want to be his assistant for a semester if he would sign off that I was assigned a student teacher and he agreed and I followed this guy around for a whole semester. So I could not speak I could not articulate ideas until I had a passion for it till it was something that I was so full of so committed to that I felt like I had something to share. So doing your interior work which I know is not the reason you came to the university you're here to learn the technical parts about management but doing your interior work and knowing who you are and what you can commit yourself to and what you can sustain over Tom. I think will be essential to your success. So let me stop there and see what kind of questions you might have on your mind I can answer technical things about running nonprofits or about leadership or about my own journey. Anybody Thank you. At what point do you feel like you answered the questions what could you die for or what could you live for. Well I answered the question. Probably in that first two years of my work. That I knew this is what I wanted to devote my self to. I have to say that I didn't have a lot of support from my family or from other people saying Bill you're living in community I lived in community my wife and I did for ten years we didn't own any property and I'm getting up in my mid thirty's with two children and we're still in this communal setting so you know I didn't have a great life point of this is how I'm going to. Take care of my responsibilities but I did have a point of this is what I want to devote my life to. I don't think you have to have a moral calls or you have to work in the nonprofit sector I mean I think you can be an engineer or scientist or a manager and if you do that well you can bring something along are whatever the process or whatever product is but I think the question is important the question about what are you willing to live for is the deeper harder question and that really is where you grapple with I want to do this all the time but I need to stop and exercise are on need to stop and take time to be with my family or I need to stop and go back to school and study and I need to learn these processes and what I really want to do is feed folks OK So there's a discipline here that I'm suggesting that gets harder as you go along it gets easier as far as you knowing for sure that see it but it gets harder in that everything I've talked about starting with a pickup truck and you know in a little room in the basement I've had to learn to just fix I've had to learn inventory control I have. I got a fleet of trucks out there you know last year Wal-Mart came to us finally and said we won't to donate everything out of our stores. And they got eighty seven stores in the Atlanta area. Their commitment was to the environment not to hungry people they're a big environmental leader like it or not I mean they're building their stores or experimenting with a lot of things they said we're not going to throw anything away and this was a national commitment. Said Well great Give us your don't bail and we'll take care of all that stuff no they weren't going to give us all the money for the dump and they did when us to pick up food we got to pick up the food three days a week. With a trained staff in a truck this refrigerated with their branded containers we're going to bring that separated out and get it distributed out we're going to handle about four million pounds of food from retailers because Kroger came on we're doing about fifty of their stores Publix just came in here last week and said I got about one hundred forty some stores so this is the new movement in retail that we will pick up all retail stores so you're thinking I mean think to yourself all of a sudden I've got three hundred fifty stores to pick up and I've you know I'm used to go in with my big truck to the warehouse to pick up things but now I've got to figure out where all those stores are get there at the appointed time with a trained person get that stuff there and get to the next door. Saying about how you would handle that. I don't know how to do this OK here's another hand look around and say who knows the most about there who is the best in town there. Who would you say who's great in logistics and transportation. U.P.S. I don't even take left turns the day. Coca-Cola eight hundred trucks out on the road every day Cisco foods. Fresh point. I. Got all those folks on my board. I said I want to meet I want you to teach me how to do this it took us about four months of meetings with all these folks around the table their best logistics people we actually convinced U.P.S. to give us their software. We don't do left turns either. Now this is a point where you've got to be able to change and learn all the time. Even if you're successful you've got to be willing to embrace change because change will come you're always trying to get better so some opportunity presents itself usually as a problem. There's another when you think about problems as opportunities and ask me for a title of my talk today and it was being overwhelmed with opportunity because as you know when people ask how I'm doing that's usually what I say I'm overwhelmed with the opportunity to my God there's a lot of problems out there right now so you know that's an example of where you take a problem or an issue and make it into an opportunity and then you figure out how do I get help learn how to do that so as a leader you've got to constantly do that all the time and you're always looking. Always good to have mentors it's always good to look to folks who have succeeded some of written books some of them you know aren't known at all you have to go out and seek. Another example we wanted to do great customer service at the food bank I'm talking about it talking about customer service and I realized you know it is going to happen we just telling people we need do good customer service there's a thing in management called the mouth. Award for the best customer service who gets that risk are out. A march myself down the Ritz Carlton that's it. It may be an odd request I want to train my staff in the Ritz Carlton the way I think they were it was such an audacious ass I said yes if you don't ask you don't out right and that's how we learn if you don't ask questions in class if you don't ask questions of your colleagues in particular when you become a professional you've got to ask questions you might get a lot of no's are I don't have time to do that or this is not an appropriate ask for May you just go to the next person and ask a question. Not too much of a segue from your topic but you said your mission was engaged educate empower community and hunger unified hunger and to fight hunger yet you've started to branch out into taxation and into working with schools and it sounds like gardening also so just curious about how you take your mission at the end of the food bank and then start to go off in those different directions early at least how that maybe is incorporated with your mission or how you define yourself. Well just as a not to put you too much on the spot but what do you think I mean way where do you see the connection. Well when you when you're fighting hunger you realize that in the United States unlike maybe some other places in the world twenty percent of what we grow and package is unmarketable in our country twenty percent some of it gets plowed under the fails you know it's under fail over fail it's you know wrong wrong label new flavor whatever it is Joe ninety five percent of new products come on the market every year that new taste of Triscuit don't make it I mean I get calls on that. Remember you. When I had ketchup and squeeze bottles used to not have that now such a good idea then they put managers in it you can't get man is the squeeze but I mean we got a donated So I mean there's a lot of product out there. But you have to think if the issue is not about food but we still have hungry people then what's the issue issues poverty. And we're fighting hunger but what we're doing is fighting poverty so when you think about how do we fight poverty how do we get the things to people that they need if you've earned that income and I mean this was started under Republican administration when we had welfare reform if you know the Earned Income Tax Credit is to say we want to reward those people to get up and go to work every day but don't make very good wages we want to reward them and encourage them to work by giving them a tax credit out of people only know about it so any way I can encourage that eighteen million dollars worth this last year then I'm fighting hunger right school supply same kids come from the same families that may not have enough for food certainly never had a new box of crayons never had the right pencils we've even tested schools now that are getting school supplies and test scores went up by having all the supplies that they need I mean a pretty basic thing. So my mission and I think you're catching on to this my mission is very broad I mean my gosh everything fits under engaging educating and empowering doesn't it you know so I just need to make the case of the there is out there one thing you always have to ask if you're in a business and you see a new business opportunity is you never go out and survey the community churches do this all the time or congregations they'll decide they want to help in a survey of the community and say it came back that we should have after. School programs and we should do feeding and we should they never served by themselves to say do we know how to do any of that and they fail so I was not a matter of knowing there is plenty of need out there it's a matter of knowing what your assets what your core competencies are so nonprofits are really bad at this because they see a new opportunity so handling school supplies or garden supplies are any of that that's my competency I know how to do warehousing trucking logistics so I could do any anything like we had a lot of non-food items at food bank you know if you're on food stamps you can't buy any hygiene items you can't buy Pampers for your baby you know you can't buy any paper products no cleaning supplies so you know those are things people need so you know we try to get so good question but I think you always need to think as broad as you can but then bring it back and focus is that our core competency what do we know how to do that is it measurable is it meaningful The other part I hadn't talked a lot about is how do we raise sixteen a half million dollars every year you've got to have a lot of folks out there that's going to support our largest source of income is not the government get very little government money because politics change not foundations although we do get foundation money not even corporate money it's individuals given a small amounts thousands of people you know just give us give us what you can give me twenty dollars multiply that by eight you know that's actually quite a nice donation so a lot of what we do is around building constituency out there that will support our work and again this is true and for profit or not for profit you've got to know who your customers are who your constituency is. What percentage what percentage of your employees are volunteers and we're busy. Are paid and how how do you find those wages you have well as part of that as part of that budget. You know our largest. Expense is employees I mean you know for me it's just trucking warehousing and eight but so I use a thousand twelve hundred volunteers a month that's twenty eight staff people I've got about one hundred twenty. Professional staff people on staff some of them are kind of entry level people working in a warehouse and some folks have Ph D.'s it's a real variety of people a lot of the things that people do it food bank you can learn if you're smart you work hard you've got good values you can learn that but I do need someone who knows accounting I need somebody who knows technology you know would just exist get to be a bigger and bigger part of our work so I've got to start hiring specialists for that. I hope you're asking thinking about what food might be a great place to work because I'm looking That's why I come to these things I'm looking for young people just like yourself if there's ever a time and I know you think there's no jobs out there better stay in school as long as I can but if there's ever a time to be a leader to step up to give some meaning and some definition to the times that worry and it is now I mean it is just it is just wide open that I want to be as encouraging as I can in that way and to food bank we pay competitive wages it's not as much as you're going to make working for you know a Georgia Pacific or an abbey or maybe even a Georgia Power but it is competitive to other public sever service jobs to other non-profits and you got to do that because this is a profession you know most of my management teams have been with me for over twenty years so this is what they did. Well. Well it is and. Volunteers are very you know. It's just like a group maybe of Turkey here tech would say yeah I'll be over there were thirty people on Thursday nine. Twelve of the show up or I've already staffed up you know for thirty or so you've cost me money right away so I need to know is thirty going to be there so a good volunteer program is going to know who's coming. How many we're probably going to check with you twice before you get there probably the day before I mean it's a no joke either going to calm or you're not going to comment how many is going to be there. When you get there I tell you how many times you go out and volunteer and you get there and god forgot forgot you were coming or after got so many people just sat over there less found something to do right there you go I should not be here these people do not need me to come to the food bank we're ready for you by name we know your group if there's a history of you coming we'll say that we're going to come in and we're going to collect your data write your phone number and your e-mail and whatever we can collect so we can communicate to you again and you're going to go through a training and we're going to answer every question about what we're going to ask you to do before we put you to work no matter how long it takes. Out an eight story our training video is actually done by the cartoon that work and we went to the car you know I thought well who can do this I actually met the president of Cartoon Network at a function start talking to him and he started telling me about you know man we always do the creative work now we're all in management we don't get to do fun stuff anymore I thought well gosh I can give you something to do why don't you guys do a training video for you know what the management. To do it. They did it there in it they wrote the whole script about the music and everything but with it so we have a training video for you then we're going to have you work for about an hour and a half well then they think about food bank is that we have to throw white chocolate. Too bad in because of chocolates not kept the right temperature it'll turn Why don't you still taste all right but the people that make the chocolate don't want to see that right so they after a while. So good built food bank you to eat all the chocolate you want while you're there. So we work from our half will take a little break it's great to give middle schoolers Chocolat you know a break and they work work really good second ship and what happens with their parents act we send them home but. So. We are going to measure what you did in PAL it's. Competition's good we might actually tell you that George state was down here last week broke the records I don't know if you guys are in good or not we're using it working pretty good we're going to measure that we're going to translate it into how many families are Fayad and we're going to tell you something about where that food is going and if you would like a different volunteer experience will set you up to volunteer in an agency where that food's go so if you miss any of those steps of course you think people many times and ask them to come back but you've got to do all those steps just like any business you've got to communicate well make people feel safe and train it's got to be meaningful work measurable and translated into something make sense to us. I was just wondering about like with the current economic recession if you notice any trends in more more food consumption and trends in less donations of food and money and and like. What you think. Well you know it's track because we we have a saying that food bank things get counted get done. So we count a lot of stuff there we can all our processes in a good business does. In the last two years were up seventy five percent. I mean it's been doing this work for thirty five thirty six years I've never seen it like this twenty percent of the people there are coming in to ask for emergency food report they've never asked before. Has humbling. Fifty percent of the people coming into ass and it may be a congregation for food report that they're working but not making enough usually they don't have health care for double house. So when we think about and we are in very. Challenging times as a as a city as a region as a state as a country I mean the states working at over two billion dollars They got a cut I've just spent the last five days in Washington doing lobbying around policy so you know things are going to be fundamentally different in your life than they were for me when I was your age going to fundamentally different. But when you look at challenges and problems as opportunities what do you say wow we're overwhelmed with opportunity aren't we I mean this is a good time it's a good time in the sense that if you are managing a whale if you communicate well if you can measure what you're doing and it's actually having an impact that people say that's a good impact then you're going to get more support. Because of it when you have less dollars and there's more competition for those those organizations and. You know transparency and consistency always. No matter whether what sector Your Ian and business trends are. Being being so that people can see exactly what you're doing you go to my website so you're not Nani's you can see our mission our programs all the measures it's all they are annual reports on the website so it is a challenge right now because our budgets going up the work is going up on the other hand we're best in class. So the big challenge for us quite frankly is what about those seven hundred organizations out there because we exist to serve them they don't exist so we can work and I just so we can be there they we exist for them they're our customers so we have spent the last year and a lot of work going out and we've had forums where in thirty eight counties we had twenty nine forums brought all our agencies together and asked them how are you doing what do you need what could we do better and that was a lot of time out when we could be working just having that conversation but very very important time you know because now we know what they need. I don't think demand is going to go down any time soon it all comes back to jobs and as I go out and talk to folks about fighting hunger you know way to fight hunger people work not jobs don't pay but jobs pay a living wage if you're going to do that the real issue then is education. Right I mean it all comes back to education but if you're going to try to address education then you've got to start looking at schools if you look at schools you start looking at neighborhoods you start looking at neighborhoods you start looking at family structure so everything is connected to everything else in that way and I think it's incumbent on us who are leaders in this sector to say that not to just talk. About our little piece but to talk about there are many ways to fight hunger and you can be an educator you can be an advocate you can be a service provider you can go out make a lot of money give me stop I I mean it it's all connected. The best companies I'll tell you and and there's a lot of good ones in Atlanta but the best companies are very clear about their values and make it very easy for employees to get involved in community and I can tell you if you're going to get into management and into top management you will after get involved in your congregation in your rotary in your in your professional associations us what distinguishes you not just how well you did in your job but how you're involved in community. There. For YOU LET has been the most challenging for the start and end of the bank and also getting people to be on board with you when there wasn't such a large return. Well I think. You know I think it's. Coming come but when we were starting things is you really don't know how they're going to turn out so there's a there's a fear of failure I don't know how to say it but cannot sustain this over time. So one of the Rio key components of being a leader is you've got to be passionate you've got to believe in what you're saying in this crowd be reflected in your life not just in your theory you've got to be a good communicator you've got to be a good persuader you. That of persuade people to join you in this so when I started I started out with two volunteers from the community kitchen who I said if you don't want to serve any food come up and help us out the where else I mean you know so the first three people hired at the food bank I promised him ten thousand dollars a year no benefits because we didn't have any benefits and all the food they could eat and I didn't pay myself the first two years because I worked for the church and then ran the food bank after I got off so you know you hear the stories of starting with nothing and so forth. Have to start that way but you always after a start I think if you've got a new idea and you've got to convince people to do it they have got to be convinced that you're convinced and that every fiber in you is going to be committed to this thing. I didn't know for some time that I could you know I could raise a family you know that I could carry on my responsibilities as as an adult you know I just didn't know how all of that was going to work in the beginning but I did know this is what in the sense for me what God had called me to do was to serve to be a servant leader and you know if you. Study different leadership styles but a servant leader I mean there's collaborative leaders there's all kind of different leadership styles and you probably read all those books but a servant leader is a great gentleman Robert Greenleaf back in the sixty's who had been a bully for thirty years retired and started writing about servant leadership so the Greenleaf center exists and I'd encourage you to read about this but the way you measure a servant leader is not what they did you measure the people around them if the people around a servant leader are are more educated more empowered to do the work if they're charged up to go than that servant leader. Did their job OK so that's what I've tried to do is to draw all people and organizations and corporations and the public sector you know to this call is not done it by say and I can show you a business proposition to I can show you how this is good for your business it's good for society and it's good for the people who are serving so you got to create win win win. Yes. I would like to know and people can come individuals and get the. Warehouse or do you only distribute through your network in our model we only serve organizations. We have organizations very close so we do have individuals that com and we can just say you know if you box down the street they're prepared to see and if you can be anywhere in Georgia and call me up tell me yours zip code and I can tell you where those organizations are served. And we do get a lot of those calls and a lot of people who are are in a temporary Bon some people you know need permanent help but here if you're working at that community level that's where I began I work six years you know working with homeless street people. The food and I and maybe I should have said this earlier the way we think about the food all twenty eight million pounds of it the way we think about the food is a is a tool is a vehicle to use because where the work is being done is where that person says I need food a person says let's talk and let's figure out what your story is because it might be I can help you get a job maybe you need more education maybe you've got a you know some kind of domestic violence situation going on in your family you know there's a lot of those kind of issues food is the thing we have a surplus of in society. Shortage of health care shortage of housing you know a shortage of all kind of shortage of school spots for kids we've got food so we use that food as a transformative tool. And that really is at the end of the day the way we think about this so if I'm doing two million more pounds that's two million more stories that we might hear and figure out how do we help people. I was just wondering. Where you guys go into new ventures all the time or you've said several And where do these ideas come from do you guys have committees do you just listen to staff do you have a little box for new ideas and then you seem to have so much to manage already when you come up with these new ideas do you have people that go off and tell you about them or do you lead them yourself and then give them off to other people. Yes. Yes to all your questions. You know. If you're a social entrepreneur. You do see opportunity everywhere. You know for instance if I go into a restaurant or hotel or I even come here Georgia Tech. I look around see how things work I mean I'm good I'm just that kind of guy. And I usually not looking at the top guy I'm looking at the bottom. So having those kind of eyes to see and it's something you train yourself for but if you have eyes for opportunity you'll see opportunity. I don't come up with every idea but I do I do a den of five ideas now as a as a leader I don't always know what to do with. The idea. What I tend to do in this is I'm just saying for me I don't think it's in the arena textbook but if I have an idea I usually talk about it for a while I bring it up in conversation almost as if we're going to do it I have no idea if we're going to do it but I just start you know mentioning give me some ideas or do you know and then the second thing I do is I start spotting someone to lead that idea if it's in my organization somebody's already working for me or I'm always looking out for town and so usually at the level that I hire anymore because I've got managers and I've got a C.E.O. and you know it's a big organization. I'm not hiring every single person anymore but we should never be called Sure if we see something come in and think in six months we're going to need this start looking now to have that person the dentist you know have some people in your pocket and you know if the right idea comes I know that's the kind of leader out won't. I will say that my staff occasionally contracts with me not to bring any more new ideas to them so I built we can't do any more ideas so you've really got to measure is it the right time for that idea is it does it play to our core competency do we think there is a constituency out there that won't sus to succeed can we raise money for is there a way to measure if we do it whether and translated into something the community understands does it fit within my mission I've got a broad mission but it's still got a fit it's either engaging educator or empowering in some kind of way so you go through all those processes and I don't necessarily have a checklist and you know twenty eight things and I check them but I'm always doing that in my mind it's an intuitive thing. Another thing I'll mention and this is just something that I. I guess developed when I was working in working with the homeless is that. I. Discovered. I had. I don't know how to say this but but like kind of a psychic ability to see the best in people instead of the worse I mean you know you can see a person that's in their worst state their addicted or their you know they got in trouble somehow whatever and I had the gift of being able to see the possibility in that person doesn't always work out but having that it really helps in a dignified you know talent and connect in talent to ideas. So I think to be in this work you've got to basically believe. That most people want to do the right thing. That most people are good. In the society that we live in right now. And what you mostly see own news in entertainment is how can we scare the heck out of how can we build more fear for the. Weather the other person's a different color nationality different religion it's all around fearing the. Now the great thing about your generation is you can cut right through that because you have the technology as how the revolutions are are happening in the Middle East right now and they're going to continue to happen around the world we can't stop them. Because people have access to information but you've got to access the best part of yourself. Of not just the information out there but the best part of what you know in yourself and if you can access that and look out and see the possibilities instead of the negativities see the opportunities instead of a. Problems you can see the best in people and what if you could just create the right situation they would step up and do their best work then it's your job as a leader to create that situation and they will do their best work. Bill you and your organization's a servant made an impact in this community and across the country thanks for coming out to a detector thank you and.