I'm pleased to welcome you to today's C. J. P. Silas Conoco Phillips symposium in ethics and leadership. I want to welcome our guests. And colleagues which include of course Georgia Tech faculty. Staff and students and I want to issue a special welcome to our friends Dr and Mrs Then cell. It's appropriate to thank Conoco Phillips for sponsoring this lectureship in ethics and leadership. We believe that's an important part of our program. And what I want to do in telling you about this is to encourage you to look at the back of the flyer that you were many of you were handed as you came in. That tells why we have a program in ethics and leadership. What it means to us as a school. Why we think it's important for our students for our programs for what we try to advance as part of chemical and bomb like in engineering. I also want to take just a second to. Describe for some of you who do not know who C.J. Pete Silas is I want to tell you a little bit about him and I'm going to do so very briefly. I'm. Somebody It was a piece of us was is the retired chairman and C.E.O. of Philips petroleum company. Which is the predecessor of course the Conoco Phillips. He's a member of the Georgia Tech Hill society which he is a member of that because of the lifetime of giving that he's he's had with Georgia Tech and. Particular level of philanthropy that he's been involved with. He served as chairman of the National Campaign steering committee for the campaign for Georgia Tech which ended in two thousand and that many of us are enjoying the benefits of that campaign resulted in over seven hundred million dollars being raised for Georgia Tech and Pete was a major part of the effort that led to that philanthropy. Unusually for someone with his background. He also was inducted into the Georgia Tech Athletic Hall of Fame. In one thousand in two thousand and eight he was recognized by the American Institute of chemical engineers as one of the twenty five most influential industrial executives in the history of chemical engineering. And before his retirement in one nine hundred ninety four. Pete was recognized by Forbes magazine as one of corporate America's most powerful people. Most importantly for those of you who are students at Georgia Tech. He is an alumnus of the school and obtained his bachelor's degree here in one thousand nine hundred fifty three. So in beginning today's program. I'd like to ask. Professor Dennis Hess who has guided this program for a number of years to come forward and introduce our speaker. Well it is certainly my pleasure. Today to introduce Dr already stands already is the two thousand wells or Conoco Phillips. SILAS program an ethic. To move your ship. Dr Stan sellers had a most distinguished life and career he was born in Harlem during the Depression. He attended New York City public schools and ultimately enrolled in the City College of New York where he graduated magna cum laude with a degree in chemical engineering. He subsequently accepted a job with S. So for those of you that aren't as old as some of the rest of us are that translates into Exxon. At his bay way refinery after approximately one year he decided to pursue an advanced degree and so he enrolled at a little known Northern School at his MIT and his thesis work involved the transport of oil and water in porous media under the direction of Alan Michaels some of you may recognize that name as one of the early proponents of membrane separations graduated with a Ph D. in one nine hundred sixty two and joined mobile very worked for the next ten years in the research area. Now in one nine hundred seventy Arni was invited by MIT to join its faculty as a visiting associate professor of chemical engineering at MIT He taught a graduate level course informative Amex and continued some of the work that he had initiated at Mobile on the use of the Lotus charges or plasmas for the promotion of chemical reactions and surfaces. Arnie was very far ahead of his time in exploring the controlling factors involved in plasma science and technology as well as the use of plasma surface reactions and their application to a variety of industries plasmas were only starting to be considered for use in the microwave products industry at that time and they quickly became the preferred method of patterning and the positing films. Fact even after forty years this topic continues to be a critical area of research development and production. Because these this charges are used in a wide variety of areas including integrated circuits photovoltaic devices and microfluidic devices. It was really Arnie's vision and insight that resulted in him initiating this type of program. One of his students. David Lam used the background he gained in our news group to start land research and this is one of the primary manufacturers of plasma equipment worldwide. Although MIT offered Arnie a tenured position he decided to return to mobile and it didn't take mobile too long to recognize his acumen for business management and leadership. He served as manager for planning for mobile chemical followed by a position as vice president of mobiles expanding plastics and film business. In one thousand nine hundred eighty began the first of two vice president sees that he held that mobile first V.P. of exploration and production for mobiles U.S. operation. In this position he managed a five billion dollars business that employed five thousand workers in the second position he served as V.P. of international exploration and production in this assignment he led negotiated and signed the what is now seventy billion dollar agreement with the government of Qatar to produce liquefy market and ship natural gas to worldwide markets. While at Mobil Arnie was the designated mobile team executive for Georgia Tech. He told Ron Russo as he delivered mobiles annual monetary contribution to C.A.G.. That he wanted to play a role in helping Georgia Tech. Runs not one to let that go by very easily and so Ron subsequently ask Arnie to serve on our external advisory board. Ron told me he was most taken with Arnie's ability to address problems direct. And almost immediately reduce them to the key essence. Ron subsequently asked me to consider joining the faculty in county which to which Arnie replied I'll consider that. So nine hundred ninety three already retired from Mobile and decided to spend some time at his home in Connecticut to decide what he wanted to do next. Fortunately for our school he decided to take Ron up on his suggestion and in one thousand nine hundred four. He took a position as professor of chemical engineering here. He very quickly became an outstanding an invaluable contributor to education scholarship overall operation and direction of the school. Just to give you a couple specifics as to what he did when he first got here developed an economics course provided perspective to specialty operations center offered numerous students career advice assisted students in the development of an investment club served as a mentor to junior and senior faculty members and develop a course in engineering ethics and leadership. In fact it's this latter topic on leadership of course that he's going to discuss today. He retired. If you can call the schedule that he keeps a retired schedule from Georgia Tech in two thousand and four as America's professor and Turner servant leadership chair. Now Arny's been quite extensively recognized for his many contributions to chemical engineering at Georgia Tech to the chemical engineering profession and to the United States. Again to give a couple examples. He was selected by the Georgia Tech students as the outstanding chemical engineering professor of the year in both one nine hundred ninety seven and two thousand and four. He's the recipient of a national award in Kemi practice by AI C.A.G.. US black engineer an I.T. management named Tim black engineer of the year. One nine hundred ninety two. In one thousand nine hundred seventy was chosen by AI C.H. he is one of one hundred chemical engineers of the modern era. He's a licensed professional engineer and was elected to the National Academy of Engineering in one nine hundred ninety seven. Soon after the B.P. oil spill which is the title of his talk this afternoon National Academy of Engineering ask that he serve on a committee that was commissioned by the U.S. Department the interior to investigate the cause of the rig explosion that resulted in one of the worst spills in U.S. history. Most recently September of last year President Obama appointed him to the National Science Board. This is the governing body of the National Science Foundation. The board serves as a policy advisor to the president and Congress and oversees N.S.F. seven billion dollars annual budget. So now we're pleased that Arny's wife Connie Newton Stan cell was able to join us today. Connie is an extremely talented and well recognized artist. Her art work is quite frequently part of shows at various galleries in the U.S. and the slide into law. This one. So in just a little background in two thousand and ten she was selected for membership in the National Association of Women Artists this organization was founded in one thousand nine hundred nine and has quite a distinguished roster of artists listed her artwork was chosen for inclusion in the spring two thousand and twelve edition of studio visit magazine. This jury to artists magazine is distributed to two thousand and sure readers and gallery assists throughout the U.S.. Welcome. It's good to have you here. So what does Dr Stan cell do when he's not leading high level committees teaching students mentoring students and faculty designing new courses and assisting US science and technology. Well for one thing takes a spare time to serve as president of the Millbrook Owners Association for his community. For another thing he's quite an avid sports fan particularly A.G.T. Georgia Tech baseball and basketball fact he and Professor Tasia seldom missed games when he was at Georgia Tech and his attendance at these Games has been well documented and archived. So you can see for watching that this was a this was a double overtime loss the direct attack experience to North Carolina in fact we believe that's the main reason he decided to leave Georgia. Now those of us that have interacted on a regular basis with with Arnie are aware of his let's say sometime strong difference of opinion with the views expressed in editorials and news items by the New York Times. So given these kinds of feelings. You can imagine our surprise when we saw a recent headline. I'm OK We wish you luck with that. Please point. Well to doctor on the stand. So thousand twelve on the football. Thank you very much. Hello. OK. And. OK. You. OK Thank you. I didn't realize you had all that information. Dennis that's incredible. OK. It's my real pleasure to be here today. And I thank you very much for selecting me for the Silas lecture being back here in Georgia Tech brings back many fond memories. So thank you very very much. I first got started. Being involved with the B.P. oil spill. When the U.S. Department of Interior asked me and five other engineers to consult on near term steps to improve. Offshore drilling safety. We consulted. With the department. And we put together a report that went to President Obama. And this would be for a news conference by President Obama on May twenty eighth two thousand and ten so it was barely a month after the accident took place in the Gulf of Mexico. We worked hard to finalize a report. That laid out some near term within ninety days steps that could be taken. And these were announced by the president. And have been implemented. I was asked to be present at the news conference. Where those with the announcement was made but I was unable to Unfortunately I had a long term commitment to be in Europe so missed out on being at the news conference. I was to be there with one of the other engineers to brief reporters on the. Particular steps that we were recommending after that the National Academy of Engineering form the study group. And I was involved with that. And now we've looked at the accident the tragedy really long term to come up with recommendations for improvements in safety such that such a tragedy. You would never ever happen again. We met. In a number of places we went down to New Orleans we went to Houston. We heard testimony from workers on the rig. We visited equipment manufacturers we went out to a drilling rig and the Gulf of Mexico that had a similar configuration of the drilling rig that had the problem that was involved in the tragedy with B.P. and we met with the management of B.P. in Washington had a hearing with them as well as with a key contractor that B.P. used Trans Ocean the well was supervised and B.P. had the responsibility. But they used the contractor to actually drill the well. And and that contractor Trans Ocean. Their employees did have a significant role and what transpired and we also had hearings with Halliburton who was responsible for cement services and you'll see the significance of that and a little bit. Let me start first by giving you a little background the put the accident into context. You can see this about nine hundred fifty in the U.S. Gulf of Mexico fifty thousand wells have been drilled four thousand and one of depths of one thousand feet or more. So we've been drilling deep wells and seven hundred and water depths of five thousand feet or more so. It was not unusual for in the to drill such a deep well as the B.P. oil well. There's been excellent performance only seventeen hundred barrels of oil have been spilled over the last forty years before the B.P. blowout where oil surged up the well of five million barrels before it could be stopped in the Mexican side of the Gulf of Mexico the Mexican oil company Pemex. Spill three million barrels. Thirty three years ago. This is of significance and that it's been thirty three years since a large oil spill. Not only is it infrequent you don't want any oil spill. But that there is no evidence from that spill similar quality of oil as any impact on the environment. After thirty three years of course the current spill will be monitoring of the environment and extensive testing to see what the impact long term. Right now there's no or oil visible oil that speak of. Things look quite clean. But then the long term effects are what folks have study. The least and royalty payments to the United States government. Large sums of money two hundred billion dollars direct employment one hundred fifty thousand you put a multiple on that for people who are employed and support services for the offshore industry you're talking in excess of five hundred thousand jobs in the Gulf of Mexico as a result of the activity. I have some experience in terms of contributing to some of that money and that. At. Mobil. When I was involved with running the U.S. exploration and production. We. Bed on a lease out in the Gulf of Mexico. We've been there twenty five million dollars and we bid on a block the blocks are about five thousand acres. And when we bid. Other companies also who look at the geology below the water as we were they can be it. Of course. And the highest bid wins but that bid allows you to just have the right to drill a well. And then after you wind a bit. Then when you drill the well and my day it mobile it was another thirty forty million dollars. In the case of the B.P. oil well. B.P. one the least. Paid around forty million dollars and the winning bid. Then B.P. was faced with another one hundred million dollars. That was going in to just test whether there's oil and natural gas. Down there. So it's big bets. And it's only one in four success. And that even that is only because of the technology improvements in fact of what you're doing is you. The government will put up like recently twenty million acres at a time and companies then survey that with seismic both send sound waves down the place you are come back up. You have hydrophones to pick up the sound you hear pretty. And you can deduce that there may be structures down here that my old boy. If you saw the seismic traces. You would believe that we would bet that kind of when I when I first of all want to thank you for us to invest. Thirty million dollars for a back up with a computer. Of course heart. You can sharpen those signals. The United States has been the world leader. And this technology little We're finding more and more oil but computer processing. Technology models of the structures is what's doing. That's resulting and the Gulf of Mexico oil production alone is one they have they have barrels a day and you can see as thirty percent of U.S. production and ten percent of the natural gas production. Here's the situation. Unfortunately on April twenty second two thousand and ten. The drilling rig again which is owned by Trans Ocean who is hired by B.P. The drilling rigs call the Deepwater Horizon and it is tethered by a lone riser down to the seabed to the top of the well up and oil and natural gas are gushing up that long rise. They did ignite from movie machinery on the rig exploded and then this intense fire this virus fuelled continuously by oil and natural gas gushing up from the from the well this well this raid was out fifty miles from shore. So we have workers who go out to the rig they spend three weeks on and really all. By the way there is generally no problem in filling those drops the and this situation here. It was not such a terrible tragedy. That he was so intense it weaken the structure and the rig is now starting to same dimensions that's roughly four hundred people. And three hundred feet. Deep. Trying to give you an idea of what went wrong and pardon my freshman peer peer pressure trying to give a schematic. To try to explain it without getting into too much detail as to what went wrong. Clearly this is a schematic for this dimension here. Water depth that the seabed five thousand feet. Thirteen thousand feet down to where the oil and gas reservoir was discovered. But the well itself is only seven inches in diameter down at this point where the boiling gas reservoir. Even up here with a well is got a larger diameter that's only three foot diameter. So if this were a scale. This would look like a single line through line. But with the expanded view give you an idea of the key systems that might help explain what happened. You have mud which is simply water and clay all boiling clay that I made up in a tank. There are pockets pumped down the drill pipe. There's a drill bit here when you're drilling the well it moves and lubricates that bit. It moves the rock cuttings on up. And there's a little line here showing the return of the mud with Iraq or any sort of my tank. There's a separation that takes place. Of those rock cutters. Then the oil is then recycled back down the well. So this is going on. This mud not only does that. Function but a very key function you. I can imagine over this distance of eighteen thousand feet where the oil and gas reservoir was found all of this other is not productive. Was found eighteen thousand feet and what the density of this mud which is greater than water you're talking ten thousand pounds per square inch down here. So ten thousand pounds really the reservoir itself is about nine thousand pounds per square inch pressure. So you need that heavy heavy iron fast. Load to hold it back. A key point in the well of is that as you drill it. And I just try to just highlight this when you get into too much detail that. You drill it in sections. Let's imagine we haven't gone down below this depth yet and we're just at this point. So what you do away as New Line which you drill the well bore with the steel pipe. So he has the wall of the pipe. Here is the wall the pipe but then you get cement behind that steel pipe. To secure it and prevent fluids. Coming up in the area between the steel pipe and the rock face or be here. So that's the cementing step and concept what you do to get the cement is that you stop them. I promise you pump instead inject cement slug here a volume of cement and then you follow it start the mud pump again and push the cement down to where you want and if you have not yet you hadn't yet drilled down below this point then the mud comes down and then goes up by the cement comes down and then goes up on either side. Then you stop that it said. And that's how you cemented the individual. So everybody is happy. There has been a big discovery. There are now ready to do what's called temporary abandonment. You can't keep the mud in there while the floods it may where everything is quite say but you're vengefully got to get the mud out. Because you don't want to produce this oil and gas. You're going to want to them. When you're ready to produce it after you have your markets are assured you that if you want to come back and perforate this man and allow the oil and gas to come through. So you gotta get the mud out of there. If you take the mined out then the only thing you have that is secure and this sealing this oil and gas reservoir is the cement. And you've got to rely upon the cement to handle this pressure. So since it's a key step you test whether this cement is has high integrity or if it will seal. And the way you do it is just simply. Stop them put in some water now inject ocean water. Indeed here. The ocean water is lighter than the five and as it makes its end with the mud this column gets to feed lower and lower density. And hence the pressure and side here falls below ten thousand pounds per square inch cut down to eight thousand pounds per square. So now you've got to double to feed from the oil and gas frozen for pushing on the cement to try to go in the wild and you're going to test whether this cement hole course you can't keep the mud if so a test was done it and all you do is you stop everything after you've gotten the mind out and the pressure is lower in here. Or we just see a pressure builds up and you monitor the pressure in here. And you see if it builds up if it builds up you know wildly we asked coming through the cement. Well the test showed the pressure building up. So then tried another test shows the pressure is building up. So then I said gee well maybe I were doing something wrong less prior monitoring the pressure. Another way and they tried monitoring rather than through this drill pipe tried monitoring through this line here so many lines up that well this is called the kill line. And this one goes up to here they bonded to the pressure in here and then they didn't see any increase in pressure through this life. So they concluded the well was safe. But then they had to explain why they got such a result. And the senior driller Trans Ocean man with a lot of seniority and a lot of clout and influence with workers. He said he had seen something like this. Port where you had such fury. And he called it the fire effect and. The B.P. man it was. Had the last second. Person to translate killed off work for Trans Ocean work. He was compared just by this theory. That the Trans Ocean really came up with. And that's called the latter effect. There is no scientific or engineering basis that anyone can come up that supports that theory. If the manager on board should have text based with the experts on shore and he did not. And he said OK let's go ahead. East thought Yeah made sense and they can take you through remove all the mud and it wasn't long that oil and gas start coming through here as this column in here at the lower and lower back pressure on the reservoir oil and gas gust up through the drill pipe on to the drawing room for it came on up through this line into my tank and over a flooded back and more on to the drilling rig for ten minutes before the explosion the workers were there with mud and oil and gas all around them and nobody through the emergency bottom and that is it's hard for you to see this the blowout preventer. There's a sheer plate here. Jack just hops across the well you seal it and then the birds that I show I dyed it so that you could just see its location but it's a solid plate. That's activated and will cut right through the drill pipe. So. Ten minutes during that ten minutes actually could have been saved and the well. Had a good chance to be blocked off. Right at this point and secured. It wasn't done in. Ten minutes went by and it really exploded. Once it exploded. This area here got jammed up. And you weren't able to ever stop the flow. Even after the explosion. Even after the tragedy when people went back to try to stop the flow of. Coming up and here to try to stop it if they could because the place could not see the whole process because this drill pipe. Yes. There's a place but not particularly. So clearly there are things that be a back up system. Of the and the industry has worked on that. The beat manager who was involved. Did not have a lot of experience with who we should really he was bored out. With very little time with fact proof. The man who had to be relationship to be the man who was the manager was sent off to one hard to believe. Well controlled school. It was a regulatory requirement that after a certain amount of time to got to go to school. And so just very seasoned gentleman who had a good equation with the workers and the reputation. He was not present. Now you have a new man there. And you've got the chief drill of a Trans Ocean saying the flattery. So we ended up losing having a discontinuity. In the leadership. To back up for the field he is the system that the industry has now put together. You have to start with here's the blowout preventer the well. A Well that's while and going crazy. You would come on the top of the blowout preventer which sits on the seabed and put a cap on that we get into too much detail on how you get that cap down here. If you do secure that cap on to the well a lot was learned from the tragedy of the B.P. oil spill. I did get a cap down here and secured over these the. Distances and water there. I dock this is five thousand feet of water. I die or can only handle one thousand over a human to go in turn valves and make connections so robotic vehicles are used to come down and float around and have the vices that will turn valves and make connections. You make the connection going to the wild. And then flow. Instead of now going up into the sea is captured by this of these leaks that go into a manifold that can then take the oil and gas in this case you've got to capture points these tankers here capture the oil and gas they where the gas hold the oil and then Perry articulated a shovel tanker comes and through take off there too late. Oil on this thing. So this is a question of two riders working on an oil spill but now you're capturing the oil and preventing it from going into the ocean. So the system is up and running is cost a billion dollars The industry all participated and paid into it. It's on standby. It can be at the site within three days and tied into a wide A wild. Well. The status is. There was first a six month moratorium on drilling in deep water for that President Obama put in and that was in early June of two thousand and ten and that was the employment of say from practices that we had recommended. Go in place. But since that time of drilling has rebounded to the par of B.P. has spent twenty two billion folks are. For cleanup and restoration which is progressing well if you go to the site you will not see the oil. The best I could find the latest was that it some areas if you step on the soil or I'm sure you might have some oil come off the top but that's nothing that obvious is just a long term effect on that could see light at the center of that is now being assessed and Big Pete may end up paying. We'll have additional payments for sure but including fines. They may have an additional fifteen billion or so as thirty seven billion dollars in terms of the entire corporate world. BT have seen Transocean the company that was drilling the rig and saying that they were incompetent and have and they have also sued Halliburton did the cement drop they were claiming that the cement wasn't of good quality and both of those companies are suing B.P. It's a lot of money involved here. And as you told the lawyers to go one step at a time but that's all right. The lawyer is going to want to come out on. The tragedy go in your back away from all of the facts. Eleven men and their lives of the shooter twenty fifth level on board and seventeen more. And clearly we can't let something like this happen again. Recommendations like B.P. one one that all companies trouble because when a target turns out eighty percent of all serious enough real accidents like this. Both Paul and India where there. It's just wind and some other tragedies eighty percent are caused by human error. And so how do you get human error if somebody makes a big mistake. In the case of the B.P.. Well clearly an error made in Turkey dangerous key test whether the cement ceiling. And it gets to a culture which is easy. It's easily said word. But it is an attitude and I believe that safety is most important and all that they that you do all of them as they should believe that no shortcuts. No Blacks procedures. When. Folks are under pressure time pressures. It's easy to have that be something that you go into. It's apical. Strong safety car culture tax lives in the environment you can see the point. Virtually human error which is really because of the big one but it's a big leadership challenge because you're talking about pretty specific disciplines. Some companies that are known for their discipline that discipline gets older into how you actually operate your business and other aspects aside safety you could end up stifling creativity. Growth of your employees. So is it easy to go too far but it is something that you must emphasize that each company company. Struggles with. It's it's something that you. Have by doing each worker reinforce each other in terms of how you think their job. And for someone who's a manager in the chain. If they insist on. Safety. No short cuts no lax proceed. They will have a tough time in that company. And folks wanting to work for them unless the overall management supports that we are serious about this. So it's easy especially in these days where micro-managers are terrible for it. You'd never want to be known as a Michael manager. People feel they can't do anything without probably So there's a tendency to be a little looser. And have people say nice things about you if you're not a micro-manager but you need the support of the total organization and the leadership that organization. To say safely. We want no short cuts. No lax procedures. A clear definition of approval of authority and accountability is important. This is a big leadership challenge for us in the DAY TO DAY's decision making and it seems if everyone isn't in charge. Nobody's in charge. So folks get together to talk about it and then they make a decision but there's got to be someone who is accountable in the case of the B.P. oil spill. Should the manager on the rig the B.P. manager have been to one to say yes to this test result or should have been very clear as to where the bar code of guarding was at such spurious result. And certainly that new manager could have felt some pressure to save gas or head. But you can't have that it's got to be very clear who's making the decision. And this is in vogue now to have teamwork and so on which is good. But we've got to be very careful about nailing down authority and accountability. WILL BE OUR a need for my future for will be OK design for the current blowout preventer is. It's unreliable. And it's been added to like Topsy over the years. And you need to start with a clean sheet of paper. And I think they'll be progress on that. Increase in education certification standards for critical weird supervisory positions you can see that and more in-depth realistic training for emergencies you should not have workers standing around where Mike is on the platform on the going rate for gas and cursing Paul and horsing all around it and nobody threw a blowout preventer. When I was down and Houston in her testimony every worker said We're a power to take action if we take the rate is at risk. We are empowered to throw the button for follow ups but not a single worker did that. So it has to be then that having training. And emergency simulated situations so that that can be locked in. We need at least two sheer Aarons I showed you that little dotted line on the earlier Gar gram That was one shear ram the cut across the drill quite clearly you needed at least two maybe three. So at one gets jammed you've got others. It's just kind of St Paul the cement you can test the quality of the cement and how well it has hardened by running an acoustic tool down the well and that was not done on the B.P. while the specifications of the cement. More needs to be determined to nail down on that and then with the problem they had with getting a well intense worry of an event that needs to be tightened up on stands and a standby generator. It's important it's right. Next to the main generator provides a lot of lectures to do to rid the ring is held on station by a G.P.S. system. It takes the signal from a satellite and thrusters move it holding on. When the explosion talk appliance the main generator when the lights went out electricity was lost and then the bridge started to drip and I think that put added stress on that pipe that helped cam that pipe into the blowout. And then we do recommend the industry design that I showed you before chapter and well kept. I will. Although I'm not so in a few sentences part of the herd the place may very well underline that life that left appears to be made without a protocol for about making but that has to be something then that has to do with what we got that behind us for was there a lot of it in you to work on this and improve the technology. I just like to make a closing comment which is tangential to this. I just can't resist dentist said. And Ron knows some of my colleagues who are tech now we have like I would say. Chuck you know the New York Times has weak law and then five stars and then we go or you know how they read it. We both go there is it clarity. So I probably should I know are advised not to get it but wear something really quite straightforward. We have oral phrases that have gone up tremendously for about twelve to a hundred dollars oil for our eighty five ninety or will not be at that price. There is no reason for all the people at that even Saudi Arabia. What would happen if we got thirty forty dollars a barrel. But if you want to give me one hundred dollars a barrel and I'm willing to take sixty or seventy I'll take it so you say well what is wrong with this person. Why is it that oil is hundred dollars when there is no fear of loss. If you do not. And of course the oil price. Obviously all you know drives together put it. OK So why is that we don't have any lines at the service that. So clearly there's got to be another force. Well you may know ninety percent of the trading in oil and oil prices are not set by Exxon Mobil they're not set by Saudi Arabia their problem. It's set by the speculative. So ninety percent of the trade and oil is done or people finding out their computers they don't need the oil but what they're trying to do is get a spread so you buy a contract that would say that you would pay for that thirty days from now. At play. But what you do is you watch from your computer your fingerprints go out two dollars a barrel of oil what you have your contract for you go and sell and so you buy and sell try to buy low sell high oil price goes up and it feeds on itself. And before you know it. People make huge amounts of money turning me off. So for one physical barrel that you use in a refinery. You're ten people that came by itself. This isn't problem. Well why can't we stop that. Why can't we were part of that more money be put down when you buy a contract you can just get the contract with hardly any money then what about putting thirty percent of the value. I don't know as it applies. I care because when you bet on the oil what thirty percent one time. For your supposedly deal. So we are driving ourselves the world they are serious the oil price is set by they call it the market but it's by integrating the community. So maybe we'll get this straightened out. It used to be that way with grain and the early ninety's and the from one thousand nine hundred seventy eight years where trade and the speculators got into that so that was put out by just simply saying you don't need it physically you can participate. So we can do that. Say if you don't physically want to spoil music. You can't participate. Only ten percent of the market could be right now you're talking forty percent of the market for these people or as I said ninety percent per year anyway. New York Times give you a better job explaining that fact. Thank you. Noah. We do have time for one or two questions on the what was the ignition source and there's any other commendation about separating ignition sources yes yes there have been the ignition sauce was the main generator that when the explosion took place. You know as natural gas gases went into the generator. It caused the engines to speed up and there was a circuit breaker at higher engines and that circuit breaker way. Gave off a spark that an explosion took place. I've asked that on your point. I've asked Should there be a recommendation to make that whole area. The engine keep it on that very positive pressure. I've been coming through the room. I've got oxygen in there but keep up the pressure on it. Have a five out so that gas is tried again which I think that that is not rigorous enough obviously gas. So that's something that's under study how can we make that that made their console a generator that we can make it so army of comment and then a question the comment is I sort of assumed will be done. This is introduction of you the New York Times reached a new low by inviting you to be a member of the editorial board but everything's good. I think that with all the other question I have is I really picked up on your statement in the your talk about responsibility if everyone is in charge. Nobody is in charge. It seemed to me that there were people on the rig The There was a chain of command. It broke down and literally in your talk you made the comment that anybody on the rig can cause the blow up to activate the blowout preventer. So. I was left wondering was there really a chain of command or or or not. I think Point well taken. Because it was a fuzzy. I mean you may not be the best decisions being made by weapons on something with so many on that like in terms of the various testing and more people and therefore further on your point. It should have been defined at this level decisions are made when you have the result in terms of whether the well sealed and it was not very fussy. Yes people want to sure they were part of what is the black and they asked the guy who came up with the top of it tried to interview the workers who were involved. A lot of garbage. Absolutely and he was point other aspect of. Yes. OK My question relates to investments and safety technology one observation that has been made is that essentially since the problem of the Exxon Valdez oil spill technology had not been updated and all of a sudden another big event happens and a lot of money is poor into developing better technology and one billion dollars put aside to come up with this fancy new capping technology. Am I correct in this that there is very reactive technology development and how could we as an industry or encourage the industries to be much more perfect much more proactive in this and actually invest money continuously in upgrading their safety and response technology rather than waiting for the next big blowout as I go what do we do to prevent this one. Yes Well that's that's correct. I totally totally agree with you. It has to be ongoing. It's easy to say I think certainly something like forty billion dollars already get the attention of the end of history that stations are being made on a monthly whole lot of that kind of thing but you know privately I mean you don't want to kill the people on the rig they didn't want to I mean they. But they made this stupid very well this word is like they know the use of our culture has radiate and then you have to follow. Not only technology but finally what you've got to have and it's a game that will often a lot of media and the point Bob was making that was making about. America and Fox. I think in view of the hour we will cut off questions here and I want to invite everyone to a reception. That's going to be held two floors up from this level and I'm sure that Dr Stan cell will be available to address any questions that you have during the reception but before we break. I'd like to present you on with this plaque. Presented in honor of the Conoco Phillips C.J. Peete solace program in ethics and leadership. By the school of chemical and bomb like your engineering Georgia Institute of Technology and of course it's given to Arnold F. stem cell my congratulations and thank you very much for her but I want to just hear and it actually is more than an anecdote on the point of why I ended up going or you know Larry. But on the day that terrible day. Workers on the rig were given the honor of seven years that was time well they could have their radically through the fourth time. But it was a fake that that is that present or him out. That day and they were all in voice. They were higher up in the chain. They were on board when they explode. They were not brought in and these were people who came up to change the way I think we've got a problem there.