So welcome everybody we are going to start with some Thanks thanks first of all. Contrary to France and extended John. Georgia Tech and especially America. Can So thanks very much because it is because it's because of you that we can be here explaining a little bit or work so. We are going to make a quick review of you to explain why you don't read what are we talking about in this lecture we're going to explain you know that. Concept a little bit how it was born and why and. How so we are going to speak about that and we are going to speak a little bit about their eggs problem. That you couldn't find in that stance so I encourage you to go visit a little bit. To finish because. Then he's in the exhibit then he said we did a show it was a it was a choice that we make. Not to show or works or Bresson or worse because we were defending so idea so we wanted to to move out about. Just communicate about our own work we take we are taking perfect today to explain a little bit our professional work they did completely link it to de da as we tried to the feigning some more to it D'Errico way. In Venice All right so. Like you know it's a project and behind all projects. There is a there is like a history so I was started with an award that we got in two thousand and fourteen so to give you a quick explanation in France most of. All the national schools. Go by the Ministry of Culture so we work a lot in the public sector and this is quite competitive so sometimes it's very hard when you start like we did just like you know. After the school. To start a company so what happened is that they invented like twenty five years ago a kind of award that every two years is kind of some of the most promising young architects in France to have the opportunity to get a better. Insertion into a professional life so we got this world into further than fourteen so here's the ministry of job and. It is an exhibit at first and then there is a kind of how to get new projects but it was a in the beach and so the exhibit into place in the. Streets in front of the tower and it is actually on the right side of the picture it is where you have the I would say the Museum of architecture in France or the national one so there was an exhibit in there so you get picked we are somewhere in the in in the page and. It was very important moment for us because we had the feeling that it's not that we deserve the your world but we had the feeling that it would change our life so we kind of we were expecting a lot from the Ministry of Culture and what had been. Is that the ministry of culture not enough money to help us enough so we went through a process of going and see them and say OK we want you to do more for us and this idea of wanting something more than they gave to us. Made our collective exist so all the winners we were like fifteen. You know a picture firms and landscaper landscape architects for we went into a collective So we said OK architecture is not something that you do on your own it's a collective work as you say in the exhibition upstairs and so we went we knew where of what you know. A new view of architecture and I were country so we went through very small in the first sentences that really founded our collective so did the ministry when they saw that they said come on you know you we have to do something for them we don't have money but we have ideas what we spend most of the time so what happened is that they say OK every year you have like the kind of huge exhibit shown in Ghana when you have the you know the film festival and it's like. You know an exhibit in for developers but really strong one so at first we so we said you know it's not our place when that supposed to be there so this is the kind of advertising we got and we felt that it was an opportunity to in this place like in against adversity in a way it was the perfect place to display the view we had about architecture. So we made the fake money for it that is actually like a lot of sentencings sentences saying OK architecture is not about money it's about working to. Yet OR and we went through the process of getting clubs and giving them to people you know it was like we played it like it's second degree in a way. But at the same time it was a moment of. Explaining and displaying. The idea we had and it's so there's been a lecture there and this is basically where the new delicious. So this is quite quick process you know the devices so it's another way of making a connection and giving importance to the matter use you use and when I say mother used to say all the people that are behind the matter so to gain these materials where do they come from and of the not true of projects that we showed where really you know like the very important thing is that there was not a lot of money it was about the poverty of this project so what was the most important thing is what do you use these buildings gave to people so it's a wealth of use and the last one is to say that economy is always going to Bharti because you can you know it's always about trading in working with people so the idea of what you said in the deferred topic is the wealth of the process very important thing is you make a picture with people that are not architects so the people who are the people who want the building to use and abuse the the banks to get the money from and everything you see and it led us to you know. So it was the next step on our collective for the first time and I think that an important thing to insist because it's quite weird. In our nowadays in the world it was an open competition I mean the creator of the French for the UN was open to everyone who wanted to Brazil and indeed in that it was just some rules for example that teams were needed to be interrogated by eighty two architects one young and one skilled so. We are where we made the first step. We've been given and we decided. To translate our first lecture our first thinking about New Delhi shares to be an Alan because I must say that main creator of this time was a one hundred are there now and we sure now we felt and then the way hey he presented and. Two thousand and sixteen was more or less the way we have to defend our discipline our. So we we took contact with for the. Who were an architect in Europe when you still had. A nice. Price in two thousand and fourteen and it was not. In or is not for lack that we contact a team because we made before competition and open another open competition in France for a D.F. a company for energy. And we were. We were beat it by a friend when you know who won and. We were second So finally it's not a good he does not about competition need ideas so we contact him because we felt that then we share a lot of of the main ideas you know working with him and he was agree and we make we enlarge this call active just to defend these ideas so it was the first first opportunity where we had to show a little bit more in a global scale over work. The first proposal. That's the three point the three dogs that we presented you know were proposal to the ministry who was who was organizing the jury. To the judgment of the of the teams was three topics. All diversity of situations and counters colic difficult mean men and emotion I could picture a facilitator so. These three points were based to show you know another side of French architecture the French I could take show you a you probably know is the Metropolitan architecture and the big cities like fairies and although I must say with the huge fear arms. But we wanted to defend that another. Not moral is important the very key to cure who is truly changing and making Territory's was there and we wanted to defend it so we we use these three big stew as a brooch to get into these. We had we had to twenty four projects but did was a lot more that we presented on where you can. You can see the stairs so. That was the drawings who were made by our team to the to the proposal you will you will see that our first idea. It was we bring we bring our first idea feel the chill the construction of the area so I think that it was already so clear what do we wanted to show we are going to do to see for example these central room that we will see some photos and it's better maybe to do explain it after so about how we wanted to feel it was like an experience. We took and the work on then is in three scales but it's a because first one it was the experience. Of Elian so we wanted to shock a little bit the people about the visit so we used in some ironic way. This in all iffy to show the banality of the dairy diaries in France and how these little projects humble once where a changing and where changing in some social economic. Future to a way so this was a first point second one it was a long term project we have brought to book the Dewey we made it we were writing a lot we were almost twenty people working on on this exhibit so we made all the Dexter's explaining and touching a lot of damage Deeks that we want to do to to talk about so you can find some articles about housing about the queen and first act or about the importance of landscape and for example as we said importance of Nigeria they impact on the economic and local local economy of the future in the diary diaries so we wanted that our work remains because an exemption two days. Change here next week nobody. Can. I remember it so with the book we wanted as a first piece to to explain and to talk about our proposal so the third point was the importance and I am happy and I'm glad to be here to explain that it was the importance of universities today you know where there is the main. These ideas come from university so it's time re a really important time and we want to show it. There where we are we made a call for universities and for teaching teachers in universities to bring us day projects and even Fair article ones and the importance to show how in universities now we are developing a lot of the ideas that we can using in the profession or way in a professional life after. So we you had some images that was the pavilion and Xander magic view explaining a little bit how we organized these rooms we did in main room wanted to to cover a little bit all that then I take stock picks on the territory and the other three rooms. In which we explain a different approach to. The main idea wasn't to Santorum and so as I said earlier in front sometimes most of the time we don't have money but we have a disease so. We had to make everything U.C. I was. The book is completely made about. Event you know we made a bigger collective with a photograph of us and we went all of us went to see the all the projects you can see in the exhibit so we went to see the. It's in the users and you know to have a real first victim of their work so here is some pictures that you can see here with this is the I think you can see it all the again our job is everywhere and. That's very important but you know because when you see an exhibit when you're ready to results but sometimes in life it's the most important thing is a process you know the result can be wasted or a good one but it doesn't tell you exactly of the process was what was important for us to show you this and this is the result so I don't know if some of you went to see the pavilion but. Days like a job he said this thing here is that your bones for the way we see it is to this is where you you put all these files everywhere on the total is just to be sure that people can reach their houses with their cars which is something that now in France we try to fight to be honest so we wanted to do this first. Place you know to see the thing that it was invading our territory so the main idea of this first room is to show you this but it was like a lot of notice and working like like billboards so they were intentionally look like build books and on each of them you had three pictures of a building so the first picture was about the total the result the building then a closer one and the last one was always very close to the building to see the users the second room was about as we said earlier we went to see the projects so we took like interviews so we were with people you know like kind of journalist taking the sound of people telling us. Was the process of the building or was the building of the building of course and all we did exist after the building face which was this the second room this further room was about the know how you know there's one thing that we have to be aware of is the more we use like industrialised and. Prefabricated things the more skilled we become So the idea was to show that for they are no doubt it takes that trait to work in a way that they don't use this industrial. You know competence and they try to make all of that all the time like in the craftsmanship. You know use of things that it was the idea of this one and I think we missed a slide but it's it's wasn't very easy to say to showcase it's the place where we could lead to more order to haul in French which is a word we use for the vineyard so it's for instance it's the cheese is the idea of all these universities and all the people working in architecture all over the territories that had something to say about architecture so you had to like two hundred objects displayed so they had a place to show their work you know most of the time it stays in the universities in the best times you have like a kind of catalog and that's so here they had the opportunity to be in the French you know French by billion in international be another very important thing and they were really proud of it. So as you see I it was a collective project so after the opening we were all of us you know celebrating. And this is a map of the projects we displayed in the in the BE an owl and it's actually a website that you can visit that it's in French and English and it you can have more information about the project and it's really used by the architects in the users which is where the something important is that the users really. You know the political and everything they're really happy to see that the project is done in this map so it's a good thing you know when users are happy to be in the architectural international you know she's in the basement you know it's not very common that he's in films and here is the book between the two of you know we have one here if you want to see that or what's in that getting of all the work we did. For this exhibit and so after. Another real on the T.V. show. We are going to speak about the professional life. We're going to speak a little bit about texture it's important to say that all the main ideas although. We were defunding the founding. Will fine in some way in our projects so for me that's the. Kind of of a key of approach on our projects because even events are not explicit you will see in some way how we are always thinking about process about materiality about all the people who is here or who are around the construction because we are not alone architects we need somebody to X. We need some developers maybe we need a lot of people who may make it possible so you will see this recurring topics in you know where work so we will start with a project we may. Frame Frazier and on the on the on the east. It was an open competition that we won in two thousand and fourteen I think and it was for for your plan for the first phase of. Picture of project so you can see a little bit we wanted. To. Make in some way. To give a little bit of urbanity to these little town who was in. A kind of a different difficult. Name of town and that. You will see we had five units and we have constructed the first one we signed. With marketing right so. Important to say that we were completely inspired by a. Picture of we were talking the image Well it is important but in some way to apology is important too so if you see in this photo it's quite interesting because. Because of the over the typology of this constructions we realized that all the. Constructions there were always a note a core in between all the buildings who was this space who was in Ybor eat space where everything is possible there I mean we we saw some people repairing his own gas we were people doing some kind of batteries there were a need server at the same time to. Bring people to their to their homes so the way to construct it constructed it kind of core who is growing and growing in the bending on the flexibility of families so for example in the Z. match we have a family leaving there the son of the family living in left away and so on all are people leaving and renting an apartment in the. In the farther back so we inspired in this in these kind of spaces to propose in these units who we've presented this kind of composition we made to buildings and these huge space in the future but. You know in a special sense yeah these spaces in between who serve to connect to people to bring people. On the first level and to park the car and to store some. Some. Brothers and some things that you need to. To maintain. The garden proposed the important thing in this way is that we are proposing and new a new policy for housing Nurul housing as all you can find here in the land do it to deal diffuse a. Little houses with a huge garden all around and connected. Extended you know all the territory so we wanted to make something a little bit more and then she fired and we proposed that we were what we were playing we were gaming with shared walls. Of the this kind of stuff without losing. Dead vantages of this kind of life in the room in the world every diaries so you have the you need their little bead. Shared spaces in between and. Houses in every verse I could be guided. You know hired to make two modules to make to finally leave to change spaces there where. We were. Thinking a little bit about I'll take ology So we proposed in the sum in the way we were constructing how we can do that and finally you see the plan with the shared spaces and with the modules of. The houses so. To talk a little bit about ecology we were using real based materials like. Like. The strawberries a lation or blue we were using two species species beach. Spine so you can see a little bit how we did was constructed. Something in birds on a date and. At least for eyes it was important and now it's coming it's coming. More and more. Glass windows so I don't know you know I think that the trees and windows are quite different so you see a little bit we were working with all the all the enterprise to make some new products. And this photo is quite important because this project is was. It was a political project an approach that they did was served as a prototype for the below being the new. New structures on the. On the works you should know that you know now there are a lot of. National parks. Like this one. Where we have a lot of wood but this wood is not isn't it's not being used as a value it is a value brought it so the must part of the wood are cat sanded to China for example I need comes a bag. I mean some kind of non-value products that we just simply buy so we are speaking about ecology because we are speaking about transport but speaking about economy because doing that we are able to give people work. Way and in some way we are defending a tradition of construction you know. So that was the that was the spices we were dealing with. We can seal it all good will it do it was a collective work in in some way because you know the process we were we were dealing with all the sour carpenters and when you see pal it is who own it by the way the forest and they were the old years of the forest so we were dealing with the politics who are in the forest and we want to transform in some way in with people who is working on that so that the final result. Would you sees a local good thing that you have enough tradition in would hear and the law. Works too but for us it's not it's not it's not the same so I think it's important to say it. They will deal with everywhere but you know we were the same competition so we you won the competition and we lost it but it's funny that we were teammates afterwards we're still friends with their friends. Here's a. A project we recently did in. So it's a National Museum of Modern Art So it was like at first it was like a project that you know the title of it was quite plain as dressmaking stairs so that we really jumped into this competition and we eventually. Won it with. Collaborative work so it's another architect so he's So I don't know if you were there ever it is like I'm not very far from the foot. And it's a very important piece of architecture a piece of city you know it's a very important place for people. So. That this is this and Poppy do and so it is very strange building a sort of a lot of buildings inside one of these building is the Museum of Modern Art That was actually renewed in the eighty's and we knew that again in two furs and so it was the forty third anniversary of the building and they wanted to renew it again so it was like a small into version but a very important one for us so this was the idea this was the main stair that you had to linked you to levels of the Museum of Modern Art that this was the this and they were not very happy about it because these were very steep and very very comfortable because of the whiff of it so where do we did first and study of the you do that you looks like this in real life so you have a huge plan that is free plan with little cavities and then you have. A low you to go into the places where you are when you are user and when you are work as a worker you go from this place OK so this was the location of the project we had to do and. We set ourselves OK if we want to make a stair that is easy to see and to go to the next level we have to do it on this street I would say it and not on this one where it was before. So the first thing you know about this one point you do is that the structure is really present in a way something like you have all these choices that are quite amazing and at a very like strong reason and at the same time for this reason. Tells you something about the structure that everything has to be hanged it's so it's not something that you brought on the floor you have to and everything but it's and in some ways they have forgotten this so it was our first I.D. So as you see one of the first mothers everything was like maids and INS like that. And this is a logo they made in you know one nine hundred seventy seven that was you know telling something about going from the liver to another one so that all this things were being in our head and we had the same issue about can we make use of a metal all of this like a matter of that we don't use anymore so it's beach again when in a different a different system it's play would of beach it is starting to to work so the first idea was to have the entrance on the streets and have like we call it the pause that is right into the choices so it means that before you had just go downstairs like this and in this project you could have like your pulls at this moment that you could see and leave into the traces for some time and so we made like a huge model for the mother of it because not to build it with robots but to be did we see people so that we could speak with them because there were a lot of little dates so it's basically the structure it's full of would play would bitch by steel. Posts. And so this was made into their called the carpenters of Fire is a very well known. About who the occupants are. And so we made all the drawings and all the drawings and everything we made a prototype to be sure that the idea was good and it was easy and nice to you know to work with and you have four sheets the first and the second and a further our structural but and they are the one rate not the Henry but you know that prevent you from falling and before four and. So it was quite simple and you had that everywhere. And so we just did it outage you know two weeks ago and it's so funny thing is that it's really looks actually the designs we made before you know the three D. and everything it was very close to it and so we hope it will you know. Give a moment inside the museum it's a very it was a very important thing for us the idea that you know you it's not just to go from a place to another one it's a moment inside. The museum. This is basically where you are in the middle of the choices. So they were in the first because they for that we would see the top of the of these white things and they would see all the mess but actually we said OK so you know it's not the problem you will decide. Is what they did you know sometimes you have to be stubborn as an architect and you know again some pictures of it. And this is from the light we're going to delight in French I don't know you call it in English is in the middle of the stair and it's actually made to have. Structure if you want to put some hops. And so again or this work of designing the thing not all on their own but with the cap and themselves to be sure that everything was in the right place for the human being it's actually nice I don't know if pictures of this but it's a very low end and it really works well for the children and I think that the museums are very important for children so and so again everything looks like everything is set up so that it works as a whole. So as we were speaking a lot on the would try to move the discussion into the story just change so. Music Conservatory and there would that we are making and this time it's not a great deal to you know to put it in a little town in the sort of France and then that it needed the coast. To learn which is the. City on the south with a huge part. With a lot of people so. We went when we won the competition it wasn't two years ago or something like that one year and a half so things in France are quite slow maybe. For. First concern was to try to find. We where were we to where the local resources on this on this place so first thing we did was to visit the. Quarries on the on the ration that we see here with these magnificent limestones. And we tried to figure in the understand a little bit the truth of the material we wanted to do something I mean and when I'm speaking about we realized after why. It was really important too because our proposal was about creating a new space a public space in the city you know as I said is a little town that. Have. No it doesn't have public spaces of quality when people where people goes there and fine all the people so for us it was really important to put the building on the corner of the of the. Of the space to make the free space in between the school who was existing building to make a disc where public square. Down so. We're over prone and do it over prone I mean it was a concert music conservatory So we should but we needed to make front of the problematic about. The dimension we needed so much space and all the. Other your existing buildings around where quite small if we can burst through the. Our facility building so we want to play with that doing in with the materiality under firm to try to mimic to make in some way these building memetic to the existing And that was a reason why we wanted to go into to construct with the stone because it was more or less the textures and colors we could find there so we have so you have so many images of these magnificent quarries who works in quite a mechanical way and we you can find here in the building. I was speaking about the Dexter texture war where it come quite important to the implement our building in the in the existing so you can see that in some way even new with contemporary farm. The textures of the facade are quite similar to the existing buildings. We you will now you will see after the stone structural stones are now the same danger making the statics of the building we were working with with. Good stone and concrete all the. Around the windows were in concrete and in need was just for a reason because we when we are working with the stones we make we put in one up to the other and we need some in some way to put something to do to the rest of destructor above the windows so we decided to make it in a static way putting all these squares of concrete around our windows that's the form. There are two things. Who are really important in the conservatory because. People are doing some are playing music inside so the conditions should be should be should be OK and for the maintaining of the instruments so on that's the bond that's the first point the second by needs of the Christic as you know with. It's quite. It's quite it's not good to the playing music and we wanted to play with it again to make it something a steady gig playing with non walls and doing some some different stands on the on these Wall who's supplying the conservatory room with all to make it something different and who works in a way so that our plan and we you can find here the section doing the same thing you can see a structural wars we were playing we were using. Some concrete in the structure and some wood in. The main role. So here we were standing a little the two when we decided to work with the stone over work about. Understanding the material was one of the first thing we did we wanted to know the dimensions of the stone How does it works how does it goes from the from the quarry to the building and need was that was something that market so much the steady can and the way we are constructing the building we made some prototypes to see a little bit to proportion proportions are really important and you can see these you much about the building who is going to the field. Soon I hope. Here using barriers they something important we. We are speaking about truth and ideas and we bowed and crafted. Ways to put it in the buildings so. We can see some days here about how we understood the. Details when you are making a conservatory for the for the sound you need to put fifteen centimeters of these elation acoustic is a nation and in some way some. Broke there are variations so we decided not to use a standard industry lies barrage Broderick's and to neg in some way somewhere to work with the bullet that we can see here that's not for. Reasons but. For just for some for a niche or using. Good again. Here. There are. Playing rooms and I forget to put images right here to visit over set that's why website and you will see but you will see that all the wood and iron man. Crafted wood two. At the same time as we as I said before are playing a role of. Stick. Break and are playing in a steady. As a static So no I'm going to show you a project it's been a long process and many years to mention for that it's very close to you on the. Forms and this is normal in the long you know along a river that goes. Through. The softness of forms and this is like you can see there's a lot it was a lot you know. Because it's it was a way to be to be sure that people are formed with an on good and invade ones. It's actually a very old one because the first sentiment is Rumanian one's words to friends and years ago eventually these four got destroyed and everything. So it looks like now it's mainly in one thousand century fort as you see it is from eighty eight twenties eighteen twenty so it. And this is a view of the orders drawing we have where we could see kind of the remains of the Romanian castle. And for all the centuries it changes shape because of the different ways of invading a castle and so you know at the end of the Second World War it was completely ruined and nobody wanted to use it so it stayed like this along and all the cities around gathered as a community of cities and they said OK we should do something about this force and. You know even if it's was a close place it would be open to the public so there is the whole thing right now and so we were asked to work on this and to be able to use all the older stories and to showcase the story of the fort in these places this is actually dwellings for the four military people at this time and this was the de actually in trends that was like you know they were not very happy about it. Besides architecture had to like a second course in my life and now I'm a jack attack so I studied this building very long and I got I went to the archives and everything and it gave us a very nice overview of the way it was. So basically what we said is OK We're going to remake the entrance from this place you have an elevator that arose you from to go to this but there was one missing so we said OK there is no other way of making older people go into these forts than doing and then later which is something that is not a appreciated most of the time in places like this and to make the museum in this place. Actually there's a kind of it's called again you can even in the lead the night it's a very. You know very local way of working on the unmaking like it of the month and we really like that because now it's it's a very recent work on the same ID So you see it's a tradition that keeps going and leaving and that could be used so we had that in mine and we said OK this we're not going to ruin the thing so we have to work as dry materials in something we could remove afterwards if and people don't want it anymore that is basically the system we had inside this this main room that is still on process it's the building is supposed to start in some moment. And for the elevator we had this we could do to get young I don't know if you call it in English again it's a technique again for military purposes that you use for landscapes right now it's like a net student that you put stones inside so he had that in mind as well then we said OK we're going to add something on this facade and it's going to be made like this and the stones that are actually inside and that's at the stones of this aeration of the building but it's because it's in full restoration right now so it's for that is big on with the same material. So this is a proposal that we're going to build in in some months. Now and what we did at first is working on the entrance and there is a very nice station in Paris at school hours and it is on the eleventh lane and it has been designed by your comic book draw and we really loved it and screen of Jules Verne in a way and really like the where he you know the vault he used. Metal to cover the force and really light it and we said to us have a care we have to have that in mind as well. And the second thing is that the way to the moon lighted. The old woman would be in the cell phones that we really loved it's kind of very important place for architects and all then famous architect are invited to intervene in this place and so to be more made this thing about lighting the intervention with the lighting so this is basically the plan of the entrance and so what we did is having this two things in mind we had something going on is that it is not yet up there is no eating so during the winter it's very very. Cold and you have to use my toes that would sustain this so that's where we basically use galvanized steel and on the floor we use the little tides of ceramic you know the one you usually put on the facade we use it on the floor because we felt as a very easy going process and easy to remove afterwards and we deal with the lights you know getting the shape of the of the places so it's made the way to right now. Has been you know revealed some. Months ago so this is going to be removed it's late it's going to be inside this and you have this line that goes all through the world and it really gives an idea that OK you are now it's open to the public but before it was military proposed this place and these walls were a way of building easily. In the stone with the stone of the month and it was very important for us to to showcase this kind of with the intelligence that was you know before because well just you know part of the process we didn't invent anything. So the further through the third project. Differ and one. Was skate playground in. France and I choose to show you a dispersion for a dish first team which as you can see here we can not see the skate break but the skate bike. Is not as it's not important to show it to us on the first in which the most important thing was. How architects nowadays. Are taking place as a facilitator. In society we. Called for this project to make these little skate park for the. City council. Important thing is that the city council as you can imagine they I mean it's not their main concern to construct a skate park and they don't they don't care about scapegoats there are a lot of other people but there were these Association of the skate parks who was quite well. Organized and I was sure on who asked the city council for some years to construct these this was the first step so we get into the situation to make it to work as a facilitator a second thinking worse as we will see here the most important thing about this Gate Bridge was the situation usually skate parks are placed. In this. Fire the plays. Of just society neighbors and everyone because the. Facility. Who makes noise and who brings a you know a little cream you know going through there so we said to big city council it's not like that these people are good people and they just want to make some sport so the third part of the of the all the story it was the neighbors who evidently was in the game with us so we should. Explain them that it was not like that so we decided to make. These jobs on our phone says shows. That it's quite weird because A The No I don't know any other escape bugs I'm going to end it here in. Such a strong and story figure like our friend says and we decided we was a work to head as a facilitator so we needed to convince the city council about doing the skate park year we need to. Because they want to they don't know how many square meters of a skate park and I said and we said OK we don't have enough money let's do less square meters but with such more quality and let's try to put it in the center of. Town to make everyone use it and to break in some way they did little criminals doing some skate park so the only ones we convinced everybody real work as they exist are so we decided to work in some school to away and to to use concrete because it's just been a skate park but trying to do give. Simple a lecture of the spaces to build lead everybody use it usually in France now if you make something like that there are a lot of fans as there are a lot of things. That protects you to go in so we decided to put here for one of the regions was there because we wanted to know open space and we worked in this cultural way to lead people get attracted about and this is not building but this and this for in this facility with men and to go there you can see a little bit this for the I mean you you see the sculpture away of the concrete and the slopes and the slabs going down and making some funny forms but the most important thing is that you can see one guy doing skate another one we know how to sell to say in English but we did put in at. Some days a little guy just playing with the any skater and just going through the sliding in the form so finally it was a success because everyone uses it as a part of the CD I mean do you in their way they wanted to do that so some technical. Draws it was just to labs to concrete slabs than make all the space. Lead all the all the green surfaces free to do not to have a huge impact in these gentle and. So we see a little beat all the every single move man made was. According to the needed of this year's Association because even if he doesn't look like that skate bags are quite technical and all on the surfaces should be to be done in the way to to do to lead skate. Well so that a work colleague of his to do unicycle can't get skate to a lover and he was the first tested and he said it was OK so we open. And he's still alive with the way I didn't want. So and the final guy need Was that OK we were making. Space to to the city and we wanted we was like. No match for the neighbors who accepted to lead it here so we said OK for the usually in the in the barracks in the gallant storage buildings I quite agree and suggest some standardize brother so we said we are going to implement and the storage and the fund then. In the men to do we'll lose or you will use and your child could use two so we did it here taking advantage about the. The Need we had to make it in all these kind of a shooter for people to get to get the speed so we tried to. Assess city. And design in some way in this in this piece of wood and steel. And that's the last foot. Who give you an idea that. We were really concerned about the trees about the trees about not destroying all the trees so these two slabs that we decided to do it was an answer to. In some way to keep all the all the trees and we just take advantage to do these. OK this is a lot less project so it's not a moment to sleep it's Yandell most thoughts that the last one is quicker one it's it was a competition ID competition about how to make buildings from the modern East Eros. More you know really I would say. And at the same time to manage to pay for this. And hence months of the building that is basically all people as of of them are all nerves of their flats and the other part is owned by the city so the proposal was through the city was to work on this idea of how can you make these buildings better for insulation for instance and make new flats to pay for it you know because easy easiest way would be to remove it completely. We do a lot in front removing all these we call it did bar because it's this kind of geometry of this huge building putting a lot of flats into them and. Where there's some architects who say that it is bullshit to do this we should keep them because they have a lot to say to us they are very nicely made flats they just need some and some and so if we would remove them and build them I'm sure they would be less good so. We worked under on this project from weeks ago. And this is a battle as you see it's the dwelling you know. Usually like small houses and where it's one of them it is at first sight it's not very interesting to wasn't very interesting to us but then we went to the flats and we for today were really nicely made very our own Taishan was nice and everything but they had this huge place here space you know and at first they wanted to put all the new flats in this building a new one and by the way we well I think three or four firms and one of them proposed to pull new buildings into that and they won but it wasn't our proposal was for POWs it was to remove all the gas here and to put them in inside the slope in like it wasn't really parking it was fucking and half watch ups so we had in mind this amazing work of look at one by side in Paris that is a tower from him one of theirs that was in the. Late fifty's that has been renewed been renewed in the eighty's or ninety's a country member that was really just disfigure my taste and the proposal of like it either side is to put new outside spaces and we for that as a very clever idea because it's easy to do that because you can make you like could be called the outside table insulation and it's far more efficient so we went through the idea of using We call it. Shaun. It's not really weird but it's the same as the with but you don't smoke you know it's a wonderful roast to make the ropes. And you know so there was more cool we had both definitely So it's it's we call it the concrete of this of this build this motel and it's actually made of a shawl of pieces of wood and this thing so the idea was to cover all the building with this. To add to the actual space spaces for a larger and more convenient space that would be not fully as insulated but half of it would be and you had the opportunity to have like this a glazing that you can remove completely on the Saddam part and to do this kind of configuration and at the same time we would put elevators because most of the people now are and they don't have you know at some stage it would be very painful for them to go to their to their flats so we wanted to add elevators as well and to insert them nicely you know without having them too obvious and on the north northern parts we would puts this is basically wooden structure. With this concrete on the top of it it's not cement concrete as you're kind of guests so this is always works this is the old building that is in black and the new you know the new coat those we put all of around it that isn't right but it's quite straightforward you know proposal and this was the car parking it had been that would be. We knew the flats This is basically the ID and everything was supposed to work as a natural ventilation so no motors I will because the insulation was saw and so you know good for the building that we didn't need to have like motors making in the ventilation it's good natural ventilation. The building at that in the seventy's forgot it because they put Motors everywhere so the idea was to remove these motors and to put this natural ventilation back. Again the idea was to show that what we would you know would proposes adding new user G.'s for the users so basically we made these drawings showing all the configuration possible for the for the people and the possibility of removing the gas to put something else into it that would be more suitable for their daily life of course that they still had a parking lot you know even if we put it in a place that's at some stage if you didn't need the scar because if for instance they could remove them and change that into workshops. That was it. But if you have some questions just would like to add something because I forget to say it but first of project the second one was made with another architect bodies will share. Of the collective too so if you do you have seen as you have seen we are working closer ation a lot and needs not just a way to get into the. Project because we are completely. Convinced that architecture is just something about collaboration and needs to work with other people it's really clear. That's a student question isn't it. Is a simple question all the time it's really if could you guess because I couldn't in a way that we did it some of them by hand and some other ones with the graphic you know and tomatoes I think it's another question it's about like you do with a genteel digital photographs the idea is to show something so at some stage if you have the time to make it by hand because you can scan it and put it in your computer it's good but if you don't have this time it's easier sometimes to do it on the graphic table because it's easy to put in the you know to copy it and put it in different places so it's basically can be nation of handmade and computer made computer assisted made trolling. You even the gave you. It's basically. Been that you don't see because it's there exactly in between two screens of Gabby and. It is just like the stairs I showed you that is completely it's actually I know you called it but it's a resent all the attached to the building but just to be sure that it doesn't fall like that but actually default is very weak compared to diverter called one and the Vatican one we have all the opportunity to do it because the floor is actually extremely hard you know it's the ground but there's been remade all the times and you know. I don't know you call it but anyway it it it could really you know and all the weight. No In fact it there is a company in France developing a little lead this this product as a brother pre-construction So it's kind of grated. But not with the chemical products let's say it's just. With just the dust they'd. Dash on and there is no problem Nader for the insects because Destro it's really really compressed so the fevers completely broken compressed and days not enough space for. For example for the fire it's good for the fire because. There is no oxygen inside and that makes the power of insulation so finally it works quite well you just. So you guys seem to focus on. Making things in your projects how does that affect the scale of the projects that you choose because I imagine larger scale projects will definitely need industrial processes to build I'm. Not exactly a I mean there is something about the scale and I like the really good question I think because you use so that projects are a quite a small not so much and quite humble in some way you know but it's. How to say. It is a shame for example of Brothers has nothing to do with with this case I mean you can just optimize some processes but making it in some ways I mean it's not a question about the industry's ation is a question about how you about the standard products you know what I mean I don't know if I am explaining Well I mean it's just about the creativity of architects to take something and put it in construction in some way not taking a brother who is made by I don't know and putting like because the product for the roof so I'm burning here in the roof I mean it's it this way of using our capacity of. Make. Somebody is something in the construction we are trying to defend I don't know if my English. Very well answer I actually think it's the opposite and I have an example that we're working on that it's. Bigger than the ones we showed you in it's renewing of schools you have a gymnasium you have something for the. Something for the kindergarten and it is actually because it has a bigger scale that you can for the question and shoot things because for instance the dogs that are in the building they're all the same in all the buildings but they are designed for these buildings. So Indiana it costs even less than the one they would buy from big companies because something you show is the big companies they get a lot of money with where they do you just have to see or believe you know to go from the board they read very well so it means that they have you know the public gain from their products is huge compared to what it caused them and it's not the same as question answered because the smaller companies they're just how you are more people to you know for this building that they're still to do it in a very you know and craftsmanship way and they can afford it as well you know doing it like this and give you know the enough money to live comfortably not as much as the ones on the board with Citi to do. That is. An example it's prototypes I mean you know. Project you go into their company and you're said could be we could be nice to make a productive to see this and that there is not enough money and not enough again to let me make a prototype we are making a project as I said where where you have a foreign Doris. For one hundred thirty dollars it's not to say they're company for four hundred dollars he will say OK it is a president because for the other one making a president you know it's just one of four so. Just. You guys also. Have his context for treating materials from the surrounding area I mean these buildings the are saying gauge local craftspeople and the local community to help build these things as a. Yeah but that's the main idea of I mean it's not to be like. In the barn and saying OK we're just going to make buildings with our firm it is and I don't give a shit about the other ones it's not da da It's the idea that. You know there's a big risk when you take things that come from very far that you have no idea where it is made and if this thing that comes from very far is less expensive there's something that comes from very close to my taste there's something strange it should be less expensive because it's close to you and before the transportation revolution we had in the eighteenth century this question our view existed because you had to build with what you had I don't know if you went to Paris but you can visit the catacombs and the catacombs you see where the line storm came to make all the buildings they did and you know we didn't come from the south of in the city so. It's you know it's I think it is so you idea behind these two. You have the opportunity to to work not with boards you know and really you know sensitive about this but I don't give it you know importance to craftsmanship or the just want money and we think that architecture the money is just a moment you know something you need at some stage so that people can live from what they do and that you can make the building when in the end we shouldn't talk about it anymore as it is in you know the economy is about that economies about sharing it's not about getting more and more money than the other ones this is not economy. This is something yes it's good to keep that. Dancer it's. Why we named the exhibit let me share this new wealth so it's a different way to see. The way to do in the morning day. Thinking. You know way that when you are doing something that means something and what you are producing. Deciding the value in monetary value if you are playing where. The bullet and doing something beautiful that that means something so this. Devalue we are adding to the projects today and the tears to the products for eyes it's quite important indeed some way in the side of the day let's say that we have been raised in a way in Europe by some very important builders and architects called themselves the human is and what some you know some moments we forgot to say and we are from a generation when you think that is the thing to do because otherwise people are going to be more and more individualistic and they want you know. They want want what we show you you know one want things that people places where they can meet you know your. Wife or has been I don't know I mean places where you can really neat people and meet. You see what I mean so to it isn't very important thing it's it's extremely important suspicion country like this you know you have a huge territory that's one of the most beautiful one in the world so you know we had quite nice as well in Europe so we but we you know. For a moment we were you know like building things without thinking of about that but it's coming back in a way that I would say in these generalizations. Generation was meant yes. Thank you thank you. To finish I have when I say it's really nice to see the variety of materials eighty's and the different expressions as well as the most challenging in like logistically difficult or constraining material that you work with with these different projects. All the material. I would say that would be really technical material I mean maybe just for that it is stone every single material is quite difficult because you need to understand the material to use it in the in the good way but there are some materials that for example I mean one huge question in buildings is what or how do you protect of water how do you protect Nowadays the most Another thing that we are working with the air so you should do magic spaces for the demi. QUESTION And so every single material it's quite. Some they their own. Characteristics that you should understand to put it in the in the good way but for me I think that would it's quite technical material to put it because there are a lot of us and really is a lot of. You need to to know really well all the materials on the course finally it's not like. Stone world to do for make the stone wall you think at the relation it's not as simple as it seems because there are a lot of Seesmic problems of this kind of stuff but finally you know everyone and maybe a little bit more would take the same plan to the question of know how and it's just not about the contractors it's about the architects themselves because we have been reinforced concrete has been invented. The you know late eighteen eighties in France and it's something that now it's spread all over the world so we have been taught in our schools that we should use concrete because it's easy it's cheap. And at some stage it could be nice you know when you look at so we scan buildings for instance concrete can be something noble but at the same we had this like three forts ideas about concrete and that's why do wood for instance really does appear that forms for some reason. Of from all the teaching we had and we we've got. You know our abilities to to use this matter you know for sure wood is really challenging because it's really for a lot of to use it so we have to rethink about it and use new ways as well because the modern two lation is different now because we have them all regulation in forms and it's and we should be frugal at the same time we shouldn't waste energy because in energy is not for you know and there is something more and I don't feel I don't know if it was. A lecture or not it's important the way you are somebody the material in your work but it's important to the way the materials come for example in the stone was complicated it was that in the quarries of so so the France they are working in something mechanical way they have not in this ration a lot of. Tools. To extract it and to bring it to the to the project so finally there's no way you are designing it should be in the same direction as the extraction is making or maybe you're designing are affecting directly so you could speak with they gave. Working in that worry and say why are you doing like that try to Baghdad to have denies some way this. Process so you're it is a Shands comes from the resource. To define a project and that's the most if you go an important thing I think even the material you are using and if you have tried to spend you should have a look at the Book of. It's called the white stones because it's it's named It's a twentieth century architect to use them in again and it's a dream about the making of the Torah and the Bee and it tells you everything about the where you had to fink differently and to design differently according to the rules of your materials which is really something we've already forgot.