So one of the few things that are one of these that the last one I don't agree search or you know knowledge of research is sort of commercial applications you know will think about it. The sort of flow out of the research. Sometimes it's easy to forget there is actually products to be sold here and so it's a real pleasure to have my calves from outside the industries that actually does nothing else you know the problem here as I was due to my goddess of acid to create the drugs the university chemistry and his doctorate in organic of the chemistry from Syracuse University here working at least one chemicals and I can so you know I'm sure he began developing his expertise in radiation curing of materials and in fact was part of the story of their photo home there when I worked at any pieces of Nippon Asahi pretty plates that were there for ten years but you know you see the chemicals and for the few years a principal research fellow at site and their offices are just up the road here is where he is director of Global Research in oil product materials. He's also very active in his professional society there the right type North America which is the Industrial Association for aviation during the service. So we're told there are living editor in chief of other news the other. Secretary of the Executive Board and he's currently president of the society. He also received their presidents award for outstanding achievement in the radiation your industry is used to read in today's talk about so on to the materials that are based on no great thanks for the indirection. The sea is volume. OK great. Thank you. Before I begin I want to just make a comic because I was struck by something little bit earlier today. If I had to take a wild guess I would assume we have quite a few graduate students post-docs and so forth. Here in this room is one of those kind of a make a mention that one never knows where your research is going to end up at or world take you and that is the key to that is something that when I was talking about my bio received my Ph D. from Syracuse University in one nine hundred seventy nine I had the pleasure as an advisor in a at that point a small group of my advisors. Dr I.E. Cina gay sheep who won the Nobel Prize last week and just thinking back. When I was in Syracuse in similar lectures like this. I had no idea back then that the work that we were doing because it was the Nobel Prize was cited in the work that was started when I was with him because it was the seventy seven seventy eight work on various are going to tell a chemistry. You know you never know where your work is going to end up that it may seem a dead end or just sort of interesting. But as a sort of a mere stop our part in your career but it may take you some places you never expect three of them wanted for it different now of course I was doing it mostly organic Born-Again aluminum chemistry with. And even though I worked on one of the papers that was cited by the Nobel Prize. I was I was knocking down some dead ends and I researched it co-author a book with him. So what that like to start in with are my presentation which is on the Helen free curable high refractive index materials for life management. Make a slight switch in probably a lot of the presentations that you have had the pleasure to listen to rather than go through a purely academic type focus. A laser focus on a particular Riyadh. Action. Particular characteristic. I thought I present this is a bit more of a journey because that's in industry. And as we were pursuing and had a need for high refractive materials. That's exactly what happened in real life. We went through a progression some of that ends. To get to where we eventually arrived at so I would be presenting this as a bit of organic chemistry slash. Nanoparticle type work we did to achieve the high refractive index materials. But that is talk a little bit about refractive index. Because that's a very germane to what we were doing directive in that itself has three functions or three characteristics. You have refraction. So as light rays change direction when they cross in your face from one material the other the very characteristic soda straw type thing. Look in the light refraction looks like the straw is bent. You have reflection. Where light reflects partially from the inner surfaces of two materials. And also the Spurs and versity of the wavelengths. Of the light all that is dictated by snow is law for refraction. So that's that's the background on our eye refractive index. Why are we interested in that. Well there's quite a few reasons and in this case a lot of these deal with. Applications in electronics field. You have brightness and handsome films. It sounds like a rather strange title but there's one right here on this laptop or this monitor they're used in all the laptops around and just sort of mention Up until that last year or so ago you had some of our material in your laptop we supply the high refractive index materials for probably ninety percent of laptops made at one point. Anti-reflective coatings high reflective coatings. Bright reflectors on that which is a stacked layer of multiple refractive index materials lenses and lenses photonic advices security coatings all those work because of reactive index or require a frac control of refractive index. So we have a need to be able to make you have a material which you can then get a predictive practive index just as a short and quick example I talked about the brightness and handsome and handsome films are referred to and this is what it looks like inside your laptop where your. You have your for us. I'm told. Most of them are frozen bulbs have a waveguide and it's be able to take that light and it's in the focus it on to your eyes. So it looks brighter. Here's an example from Acer of video screen with a refractive index and without a B. I mean with B.F. without the. On that one. So think of these as just prism films the very practical reason for wanting to control and wanting to use for active in the coatings. Now isn't mentioned we're using these for a practical reason we want to have our coatings the coatings we generate go into a variety of real world applications you have to worry about more things more attributes than just refractive index. That's obviously the target. But you want to be able to use these you need to dial in a few other controls so in addition to the optical properties and that condition to our I could be clarity. You have to worry about the mechanical properties how they're going to use and he. You have a coating it has to stick something. It's amazing how often again a chemistry coatings looks great. It's a surface and it just feels right off. You can't you can't really usually use it. Formulation capability. You need to have something that's going to blend in combine. Other ingredients to get your final object. To process it. And fortune that four letter word cost that you can design the best molecule in the world but if no one can afford to pay for it just sits on your shelf. And product stewardship and that refers to the green sustainability aspect toxicity be able people handle it. So you need to do when you generate new chemistries you need to to consider all those attributes. Now let's start with the theory of OK we're ready to make some high refractive index or control refractive index materials. I want to we start well let's go with the basics and that's could be found in the Lawrence Lorenz equation. There it is listed up here on that and what we see is that you can get a higher refractive index material. By either increasing the polarized ability that your system or your view of your compound. And or increasing the density. Once you start doing that we now have a control. So it's great as chemists we go. OK now we've got something. Now we know some dials to change our molecule to get that examples where you could do is add to our magic rings at halogen atoms chlorine bromine very popular go to hetero atoms. And finally the organic organic hybrid nanomaterials. And it was this theory that really got us going in the direction that we we took. Now what that mission is a journey and as much research sometimes happen you go. OK let's go with the let's take the low hanging fruit the easier route first because if it works it's great. So with that we and the fact that almost all of us on involved in this area in our group are again a chemist. We did what we call the traditional approach and that's you. An organic synthesis formulations generate a high refractive index with a backup being the new approach which is the inner Gannett organic hybrid nano composites basically nanoparticle dispersions in our system so we went through that progression. But at the time we were hoping we could solve it on the on the on the first thing out of the gate because we're always eternal optimist here on our approaches. So we took some of basic organic chemistry to it back from the old days as works in a boy. Type textbook or get a chemistry and started adding a tissue to our molecules. At mention that we wanted to have these as practical coatings practical materials that you would use in electronic applications and the route we want to do and because we have some expertise in that area was to make these U.V. curable. So curable by light. Which is similar to if you had a filling in your teeth and in time in the past quite a few years and it just shined a light that's done by visible light but that's that's you curing our radiation like curing on that. So with that we wanted to structure this functionality on there and that correlate or could have been the fact. Which react with free radicals generated by a photo initiator and bang you get in sync. You're in so that we start adding aerobatic rings there. Here we have with bisphenol a poxy. We have two of them in there and we can see we get a reasonably decent the refractive index one point five one here one point five five and the molecule isn't too complex easy to put together. And essentially committed we can make them very easily commercially. However you have a compromise between practive index and density. Viscosity so as you start increasing the grammars Matic rings. The viscosity goes up here to eight hundred thousand center poise I think of honey on a very cold day. It's almost a gel type of consistency so not not as practical to use you can dilute it with solvents. But then you have to worry about the solvents and that cuts down your fact of index. So OK that's the first thing out of that worked OK but not very exciting. And of course. You can now go to Helgi need accolades on that one. So here. We start to pull out our Gannett chemistry. Textbooks and add a bunch of Koreans on the suborning all acolyte here refractive index one point five four. Bromine turned out to have one of more popular Adams to start tacking on that to modify the fact of the next. Try Bromo compound here one point five six. And that's what's really pushed this to a limit here on this aromatic ring. We've got fibro means. Here's our air curable functionality that will react and a bromo gentleman factor late in it's a fraction of one point seven one outstanding index of refraction. And but there's always a but here and this will turn out to be a very big but you get higher algae nation higher higher value but it is solid in this case. Basically it's rock. You literally can't do very much. It sits and laughs at solvents it's very difficult to formulate so you can't do anything practical with it but there's actually a bigger problem with these molecules and anything in the series is the series and that is seen in Fortune the reason why they work with their house. Because health and free materials over the past few years. Are the preferred requirement. Because environmental concerns so the problem. So we had with algae being banned literally in many countries. Really really put a very fast stop to any research in this area this kind of F.I.A. pretty much all the laptops and all the all the video screens ever made up until about three to three to three years ago. Well used materials. That's highly highly brominated actually had a lot of bromine in your computer screen for that to get out for active index so and rightfully so. And has stopped the use of that. So you need the higher refractive index. For higher performance and especially as electronics start pushing into new areas. They want to perform better performance at third coatings than are the vice structures. So it helps to have a higher refractive index also pushing this is you need a lower risk OS if it's got a city requirement so you can coat these things and if you're think back to that slide I meant I had earlier on. There's multiple properties you need to really do a balancing act when you starts this size and chemistries. They have to go into a specific device. So we moved off from that said Ok pal genes are bad actors let's so for could work out well good. There was a build a number and so we made some some standard compounds here and that's one point five six. Here it is we have dental file Ethyl accurately and then this couple are magic rings in one point six six is a solid. So we were able to use existing organic chemistry in this case. To get healthy and free. That's a nice success and high refractive index materials. Here's some examples of materials we made these are your thing acolytes containing sulfur and clear liquids reactive index one point six six one point six three nine. Like your weight Lotus Casi and density so this was able to indicate that if you can combine magic rings and hetero atoms. This is specifically sulfur in this case. And make now we've now brought in our toolbox. For getting high refractive index materials. And it's key to be able to formulate these systems we tend to think in our research labs in those chemists to you. The end all the holy grail is this one single molecule. Very rarely unless you're probably not even pharmaceuticals they're one molecule does a trick usually have to combine it. In what we formulate it to add other materials other chemistry that will give you a flow that will be able to be sprayed maybe give the right surface texture. So you have to formulate that so we formulated to test out our formulations of this sulfur containing materials and we're able to do that rather successfully get index of refraction and it got it dropped because of the other materials that we had to add lower their practive index. I think is dilution factor. But it got hardness tensile strength along all these for the in the engineering bent would would view those as not only interesting parameters but useful parameters so you're able to formulate this these materials. However And there's always these kind of however as you can tell in the story on that one. We now have an avid toll chest which has sulfur contending Moloch. Atoms in our inner chemistry. It turns out that if you can imagine there's some people maybe a lot of people or hasn't it. You sulfur in there in their materials. It is a lot worse than I did some undergraduate work in Sulphur you get used to it but there is that little part of smell if you don't. If you have low molecular weight materials in there and unfortunately you sometimes get that. So you have smell and you may also have interaction with a sulfur. Or what's actually the worst part from a practical end is you get color you can tend to to degrade the coatings and you get a perhaps a brownish which is not very desirable for a lot of optical applications. So. Like the Eveready bunny bunny here battery burner we just kind of keep plugging away said OK can't do sulfur Let's switch to another atom here. So we went belly up. They took out sulphur at eight another element in air not not in metal element and able to generate high refractive index again materials high viscosity good functionality. So we can put all that this coffee by the way by the side that diluting it with a reactive solvent. But in general is OK. However we're now limited. You can only so much organic chemistry. You can do you can switch out your so for for say a phosphorous and so forth but you get limited by the organic chemistry So basically you're told just remain small and we couldn't achieve what we wanted to do with this and that was getting us frustrated so if you take a little take a take a look at the refractive index of all in organic compounds you can now go in to the next phase of the work which brings it to I guess that the main part of my presentation today. Because when you look at a table of refractive index and organic compounds. You see fantastic numbers here that they would carry mock site calcium oxide topic so you could recommend X. two point seven two point five two point six and so forth. I think teller. Three point five six and that's unbelievably good considering in our getting realm with that until we start adding the solvers and stuff you usually get one point four five one point four eight is what many people have been living with with control for fact of the next to make all these optical devices. On that one. So it's there's our solution here really easy. Does that medal to you are again excess them and probably way back when we first started taking general chemistry kind of realized that there's something wrong with that theory. How do you add the metals in shrinking down into nano particles. And this brings us into our current line of research and we're spending a lot of time. And that's developing the inner Granik organic hybrid nano composites which combine what we believe the best features of the organic system for the CO to building a lot of the properties and the metals. Now there's two approaches or two technologies that you could do we just sat here on a got to one of the white boards here and said OK Let's brainstorm how we would approach. Making materials coding system so it's came both metal and organic phase and really common ones are solid gel chemistry. I believe there's probably people here on campus who's a vital familiar with that and that's a process involves transition of a system from from a liquid basically a cloyed systems into a gel or solid phase. Or in what sounds like very simple approaches taking the nano particles. The. Then you're again exist I'm. And in that case what we would want to do is use commercially available nanoparticles. My company is based in organic chemistry company to mention a name site tech but if you look at the history books. We're used to be known as American Scientists. So we are like Du Pont Monsanto one of the big organic chemistry companies. So with that as their expertise is lies more and organic on that one. So we were very happy to take no existing nanoparticles and modify them service modify those particles and then this person in a U.V. curable system get what we want. But let's take a talk a little bit about salt because that's very well established chemistry been around for a lot of years. And there's a lot of things not about that. Well quick review of solid gel chemistry here it's basically taking metal sides or chlorides or nitrates hydrolyzed in them and condensing them. So it's really neat and rather simple chemistry. Uses low temperature. So it's something that's that's relatively benign relatively mild. And the condensation itself generates very highly cross-link systems usually metal oxygen metal. Networks with side products of water in alcohol. So that's not so bad you could you could work with that and next one is a bit of an eye chart here. Maybe the difficult to see if you're back father but but basically this is just an overview of the soul gel chemistry process because now as we we're trying to incorporate our metals in with the organic face to get where we want to go. So this is a very classic reaction system. Here we have there and so what. These are combined water and alcohol. And here you get your somewhat Gela dispersion system. Heating you get in organic organic hybrid system or cured film you latest down on a flat surface heated up you get a nice cured film in the cross-link. And you end up with a system that looks like this in general. So you have your metals you Corporate it in there you have your Gannett face here so you have a coating that's you can practically apply on quite a lot of services. So make that am a metal with your desired active index and you're good to go you now have a good system. But there are very there are some key challenges in issues which which stumped us when we look at this approach. And one of the key one is that you usually get incomplete hydrolysis condensation. So you love the reactions really easy to do. Basically pour these things together star. Heat type of thing. But it's hard forcing the reaction to go to completion. So you have a what in essence nice solid surface but it's a partially reacted chemistry which means the reactions can continue and usually in ways you really don't want has pure poor hydraulics the ability. And you tend to get frequent crack problems and if your film as this thing ages and continues to cure over time. So you basically have a living coating. And that's not a good thing to have if you're you're designing the new generation. I Phone. That's going to using this material. So we've now narrowed down our routes the success here and what we can do and. We then went to the looking at incorporating our nano particles we're making nano composites. And right off the. That we saw a major problem which has limited the use of nano particles in a lot of organic systems. And that is due to a little thing called Scatter scattering. Here's the scattering equation here. For those who tend to like math there and myth that and by the way it is mentioned on there always gathering is what allows us to see the atmosphere in a blue color there and it is the as light sitting these particles are clumping together you get haze significantly. Here's an example on this photo here are three different commercially available nanoparticles versions. Basically just popped on to. Google. Look at all the companies selling it and there's an amazing amount of companies that are in the nanoparticle market generating nanoparticles probably more than will attend the game coming up next month. It's just that there's a new company and there are a variety of tame ones titanium and we found that they all look the same there and lost my screen and I just screeners was have to go there. This I can see it. OK but we did is we just we just ordered it from anybody. We can samples and they all look like this is just represent a sample so when you look at get this person materials. You don't have this yellow bluish running on their chemistries. And probably what they do stable at this Persians. And it's very easy to see why that's going to cause some major problems for optical systems for. Corporation to electronic devices on that with a haze because you're going to lose efficiency by scattering and so forth. So we don't is that approach this is said OK we're going to use commercially available systems and it's something we didn't want to generate. Our own nanoparticles because it's very easy to make and are so many companies making it it's very cheap materials but the key is the next step. How do you incorporate that into organic system. So what we did is design the matrix and the nano particles to manage their frac index difference. So we control the frac to the next compatibility and we're able to this and looked at dispersing the nanomaterials. In primary particles within this organic system and let me illustrate that all maybe a few comments here commercial nanoparticles that you would buy. Or make yourself is a very easy to make dispersions of an organic oxides or metal particles. So you get a wide variety of materials but they tend to be in water. Because they're very difficult to keep them in in dispersion they're inorganic systems. So our process or our research took years to develop the take in the commercially available systems. That are hydrophilic and not reactive think of these to suspend that. Nanoparticles ten to twenty five nanometers in size convert them over to nano particles that are now hydrophobic. And curable on that simple to say not as easy to do in the lab. And we did that by modifying the surface of the nano particles with organic groups. Which contain U.V. curable functionality that we need overview here. Of the process. So basically you start out with your inner Gannett nanoparticles these are the commercially available. Ones. You saw a bit earlier. We surface functionalized them. And I'll comment a bit more on the surface functional because obviously that's that's key here but he did this at relatively mild conditions. The solvent has been removed by the way at that point and then you get a basically a container a filter can think containing functionalized nano particles with nano particles. That attached to the surface talking classic and some going to talk chemistry here with chains. We then disperse those nano particles here and this step. So take that we disperse them. And move the solvent. But we disperse them in a U.V. curable system. So now we have resin and an organic face. That will react with U.V. light cure the rock. Through free radical type initiation. And then you get your coating. Here it is used exposed to U.V. radiation. And in the eyes photo initiator because you need something to generate this free radicals. And they cope with the rise phases and the particles particles and you get basically a coating or a device or three dimensional object if you're making a lens. That would look like this. So now you have small metal particles cured in locked in your polymer nice and stable. And now the key for all this is to get that surface modification. We weren't the first people or anywhere near the first people who had proposed to say well just how do you make the stable. But as we can see. Here. And again this is just just three we are going to put thirty of these up there. If we wanted to this says this has confounded a lot of companies on how to make these things stable basically start pointing together. That one. I wish I could say there was a magic bullet a single molecule that you take your nanoparticle reacted with a certain chemistry and then you got something that would look like a Harry micro nano tennis ball on that you've got to my nanoparticle coming off or change. But that turns out to be not the way to do it. So there are not that we've ever found a magic golden bullet of a single chemistry. Turned out that the way you do this is a little bit. Actually it's kind of the real basic I don't approach. But use a combination of chemistry. So basically you have you have each particle is has say three two to three possibly four different species complex onto it for example you have one that's going to to make it stable in an organic system that has some functionality and you have a nother part is that's curable accolade in fact related functionality at the end it's you curable. So what we believe and what has probably brought a lot of people doing work into stare into dead ends. Is that you look for this. Where can I combine two nano particles functionalized them they'll make it work. And turns out the secret is not one and but it's the process very easy it's not just adding a mix of two or more systems. And there's no single molecule I could give you right up on the board perhaps three of them that we can be used but all depends on what you're trying to disperse them in what you're trying to achieve. But the key there is. Approach is to think of let's break this into components. I need to I need to have that functionality that stabilisation chemistry to do this a I needed to do B. I needed to do C. And basically what we did approach was let's add a B. and C. to our systems here. At this point. Functionalism say a three components system and run away there. Now how good is that because I spent a lot of time kind of commenting on what's commercially available the first materials and what we found is that the surface treatment technology does enable inner Gannett nanoparticles to be compatible in an organic medium without any Gone ration over a period of time in a matter of some day I'll be showing some data. In a following slide. The surface treatment enables a low viscosity so by changing some of your functionality say component B.. At your service treatment. We're able to generate systems which even with a high loading has a very low practical scar city. So you can now apply these things through spray coating perhaps or decoding certain coating type systems. And the surface treatment overcomes the rally scattering issues for optical transparency. Let's show you some I can show you some proof here because one thing to say that's so it looks like there's a sample that we made. Containing an inner Gana organic. Nano composite material. I believe this one is. I believe Sir Conan containing zirconium. Can't think I can't recall what the sample was and loading. But I mentioned high loading We were able to get. In excess of twenty five twenty eight percent of nanoparticles in organic face and when you think about that packing that's that's a lot of material because you still want to lot of organic face in there to give your property some practical property so you can get that ten fifteen twenty percent stabilized. So you can see here. In this photo. Heidi transparent. You see no scattering. And of course that could be I couldn't very trick in the fact that we just took this photo about ten minutes after we generated our sample So before anything could happen. I like to show you example of stability of comparison here. The sample on your right says Sol gel nano one. This was made through a normal so process of the classic process that I illustrated on an earlier slide there. Has the same metal system in this most this miss one may have been titanium system but it's the same metal in both cases but this is just made sense all gel. It was clear for the first twenty four hours probably by the second day into third day it started easing up then we took this is they after about five days. On that one made on the same day. This parallel surfaces. We did one using our hybrid system so basically we wanted to compare stabilities. Took our dispersion commercial dispersion. Move the solvent moved whatever chemistry they had on their surface added our combination of chemistry. Dispersed that back into a U.V. system. And here's what you get after the after the week. So one is clear this is still clear this is hazy. So you can see the difference using this classic chemistry is here on their on their use. Let's show you some data on the stability. These samples were aged at sixty degrees usually used when you're aging samples you generate a sample that you can just stick it on your lab bench. Come back in a month two months three months see how it's how how it looks and we do that we do that but you usually don't want to wait that long. So you'll tend to do it all in a lab is actually had a sample up in an oven and with the idea. Usually it's OK. Usually at the logic works but sometimes it doesn't but the idea is that the higher heat history. It's going to age faster so it's accelerated aging that. So here it is we have the dates sitting in the going to sixty degrees. Here's Scotty. As a material increases the Scottie that's usually an indication that you're getting reaction you're getting some side reactions there it's jelling. And basically becoming useless for a practical material here we see here the in the red is the salt gel. So this is just using classic textbook out of the literature soldier chemistry heat up again these are U.V. systems where it's dark black. Coated bottles so you're not seeing light it's just thermal there's a thermal effect but we see the soldier chemistry rapidly increasing this gossipy up to the point in it's going to it becomes a solid chunk in your bottle same time. Here's the the hybrid nano systems. So the material that we have stabilized nano particles dispersed in the organic matrix the U.V. system then go flat. They are so very nice to state liquid state low viscosity so. This indicates that essentially no reaction you're getting no complex ation no side reactions here so you have a good stable system. It becomes practical to use now as I showed you some early numbers with that with the organic chemistry approach I wanted to show some of the properties of the nanoparticle dispersions. And as you can imagine you could start varying the chemistry in the U.V. resonance to get other properties but this is a typical one year is there how the hell is it free contains a metal particle or a metal oxides perhaps medical right. You know various nano particles and their color very light yellow clear centrally so use so very low current Gardner color of less than one. Refractive index one point five six one point five nine. Little discuss city at this temple of his custody. You're wide open and what application techniques you can use or want to use. And there's a density you get gets the gold for this sample and for sixty degrees for a week room temperature. We've kept the sample over six months. With no agglomeration no hazing. And no significant increase in viscosity so basically quite stable there. And here is just a formulated material is going to want to add this because we tend in my company and it's rethink of the final formulated materials. How can you combine it with other added is the initiator and so forth to give you your practical practical quotable material. And here is this is the attributes year we have a clear liquid color density was your rectum and next of the care film in this case is one point five eight. Very hard as most of you probably very few of you if you haven't done any CODIS kind of can judge what is what the hardest would be. Five pages is extremely hard usually organic coatings are and are in the one to two to three and most this is a really great scratch resistant to the type system. Tensile strength and graded he can very easy to formulate very advanced coding properties such as sort of an attribute is what this can be used for. I gave a presentation very similar to this at a conference a company approached us. That were making screens touchscreens protective scratching recalls Sark scratch an abrasion resistant touchscreens. For some killer systems. Apple has looked at this for the i Phone. It was H.P. that faction they sample the companies with this this actually formulation they want to use this as a benchmark. So you can start seeing work be practically it can be now practically used. And that. It's not just the refractive index this whole moral goal. In our project here was to get a high refractive index that we can use for. Optoelectronics applications. But you think about it if you look at something else other than refractive index for that nanoparticle Instead of fact of the next. You can may want to modify your final materials coefficient of thermal expansion perhaps apartness could response. Stability tensile strength. Maybe a color In other words by modifying that nanoparticle that metal metal oxide where you have in there by modifying the stabilizing chemistry and using. And by modifying the organic matrix you end up to now have this fantastically wide and large tool chest. That you could dial in and get properties as you want it. Want to start custom customizing your coding or composite material that you want to do to achieve a lot of effect so. So this route stabilizer nanoparticles getting an organic Matrix just opens up a really wide door. Of really neat applications. And I mention this was sort of a journey when I first started this and as I'm not going to my summary now. I thought to be interesting to show you exactly how long. Sometimes these things take here. We start off in literally late one nine hundred eighty S. and the first some of the first chemistry that I showed you there happened. And so on. Off to get for active index accolade residence Holly Maddux systems and so forth through the systems. These were. When they were first made first grade in our labs first commercialised. Obviously some of these are still being made today for other reasons but you see our journey and as we started growing in the. The practive index had Adams our first accolade composites actually kind of took a step back and stabilizing and we're now heavily involved in the work. Of what we call accolade molecular composite materials. We're taking the work that I showed you here taking this great nano particles and they're going a one step beyond think smaller Parle particles a little bit different. Again it type systems and at that point believe we could start generating into the one point six one point seven The refractive index material so these would be simple simple organic systems or at least that would appear that would work like a classic organic systems you can coat paint them spray them but give you some really neat and unique properties. So that I to my conclusion before it to be witching hour here. One based on our understanding of the act of INEC So we started out really in the very beginning. Trying to understand what causes what active in X. in organic chemistry here. So by looking at that we developed some new technologies to develop the different challenges that we had working with with many people in the electronic device realm. Going through a multiple multiple aromatic rings that are rather than continue with a knack rights were developed to have refractive index systems greater than one point six In some cases which are halogen free so we solve that problem. But again our tool box was limited in that case there's areas we couldn't go or had other problems including cost by the way. And now. So we ended up getting us motivating us to develop surface chemistry new surface chemistry for nano particles to be able to splurge them make systems which overcome the Raleigh defect scattering and so these are halogen free love discussing materials with greater than one point five nine one point six zero refractive index so but it took us a long while but the end of the day we managed to get exactly where we wanted to go and. The journey is still going on and hopefully some some time at a future conference will be a report on on the next step which is being worked on now. And like any project there's actually a lot of people involved in this but there's a special of one of the specially recognized including in particularly Dr Jeffrey Wang. Who's been one of the guiding lights of this project since the very early days but also Marcus Hutchinson kind of moved all located up in our Smyrna research labs up the road there. Which had been doing the lion's share of the lab work in this area with that like to thank you very much for. Or your time here an invitation to give a presentation here. Yes you're right that it's a very very good question and you're correct. We found what works out the best are those processes or companies which generate the nanoparticles in a narrow distribution and as small as possible all around twenty five nanometers with the ones that we've drawn that had a wide range you do run to more problems but by stabilizing and you're actually able to use them but we tend to we found seems to work all the better with a narrow more narrow range but what you stabilize them up to a certain point. Once there are some some samples received that were I'm convinced they just took a little stones in this world. I'm in there because they're they're huge. And those they are beyond hope. But but within a range hundred nanometers seventy five seem to be OK but narrowly just days would make sense narrow seemed to make a little process smoother phosphorus and a more. Yeah we have more we take of well some material stabilizing I think phosphorous we've we've you spectra expect to be on the dispersed materials and we showed that we were getting interaction with the metals that they were they were they were bonded. On that one. I'm sorry can you repeat the question again is sure. The advantages of the hybrid systems you get you now have a material which you can apply you can cope. Just as you because to make a practical device whether it's the say an i Phone or a new systems. Some of the others working on you need to have attributes of coatings be able to either code to do two level maybe a strong structural strength on that one. So by having the Nana composites in with the organic things you now have the best of both worlds. You have a quotable system. That gives you protection. You can apply but you also have the ability to reach change the properties of the Gannett coating with the metal in it to give you your fact of index to give a scratch an abrasion to get to make it very tough to give a variety of other other optical properties some thermal properties also just by the other material the nano particles themselves ply them they become not uniform become hazy coatings which will affect your say if you have it is as a screen for example protective covering for photovoltaic cells or cell and this is an overcoat. If you had the off the shelf the nanoparticle dispersion you would lose some of your light efficiency because it will make it like a coating of a dull coating by having a clear transparent coating you allow more like to go through. And it benefits your your photovoltaic so it becomes practical more practical. Yes credible building. Yes because that's the one thing you can't do with just a simple dispersion it's great great from an academic interest but you can. It's much harder to actually use in a final device because you need more properties then that once a simple system can deliver and it's a great challenge it's very difficult but it's also a fantastic puzzle in the world puzzle to be able to take multiple properties and get something where you can actually use and you see it in a final device on that one. Yes yes yes you can do that we have done that we haven't we haven't made any final device because it hasn't given us anything then a single system. You know could do what we were looking for and I would say that you know there's a fact. I think that's a great idea and I mean you're on and it will a while development of something unique by taking two maybe three and trying to tertiary system up to now what we are trying to achieve able to achieve by want it just it's a simpler system if you could do it with one rather than two but that actually opens the door for some REALLY need of facts that. Well yes yes yes yes yes there are there are there are some there are some vendors and it's the chemistry of course is not referring to the people actually a company it's a member of this chemistry now. We will never order again they're very difficult to work with there are there's impurities there are some which we found some really fatal impurities in our system others tend to be very clean very uniform good descriptions we're talking about earlier very nicely narrow distribution of nanoparticles still have probably scattering still like that but they seem to be cleaner because there's a variety of chemistry as one could do to generate nano particles we can go to literature and find different ways of making them. You can some tend to generate more impurities and I better quality control than other companies so we have found a wide range of raw materials and we do have some favorites that we we tend to use but what we found is that for most part this approach can work with all of them just some are better than others. It's like starting with a good or bad raw material. You may go to work to get better results for the cleaner materials was a good question at this point in the nanoparticles that's one thing we have not considered when we consider we think about it because very much from our own company and we could attribute presentation I gave sustainability is a very key part of our company but because this is still early stages and we really needed to make it work that's been a secondary consideration so we haven't looked at the. At basically the green green chemistry what sustainability chemistry has been using generate the particles now within ours. Yes That's that's actually. As we developed our final process. Removing the solvent to add the the stabilizing chemistry on a particle there is sustainability concerns recognition in what we selected how we did that. Thank you.