OK so today. I'll talk about something we were working on for several years which we tentatively called glue molecules to surfaces through the use of sub nanometer oxide coatings from spruced ability of molecular sensitize devices that just have to be kind of a mouthful to say. So we actually take sort of this idea from you know what we did as little kids gluing things together my toddlers now they just learned about glue a couple days ago and they just glued paper on top of paper on top of paper. We're trying to be a little more precise perhaps with our glowing This is an image here. This actually this layer here is actually about an animator thick on some nano particles where we pollute some molecules on the surfaces nanoparticles But oftentimes these these layers are even less than an ammeter so I know we're the nanotech seminar but we're going to be talking about some things that are even sub nanometer scale and still providing some useful useful functionality to some devices. So this work a lot of it was done was still research faculty at N.C. State collaboration with a number of folks both that you can see the group who is experts in creating functional molecules. Ken Hanson was a close collaboration on his now faculty at Florida State and is well we've we've continued this research now with research groups at Emory both Craig Hill and Tim Williams Group. So first I'll just give an introduction to our lab. This is our current lab here at Georgia Tech. In fact this is a picture even those taken about a month ago is old because now we've added a few more grad students to the group. So generally what our lab is good at is materials processing that's really the focus of our lab understanding how we can fabricate materials at the name of scale with three dimensional structure and the two important things that we like to investigate are materials that combine organic and inorganic components and materials that have three dimensionality and we apply our ability to control both the three dimensionality and the organic an organic composition of these materials to variety of different applications. Making hybrid materials making traditional more traditional electronic oxide materials interface with novel substrates including copper foil. Gallium nitride semiconductors or what I'll be talking about today in terms of molecular functionalize devices. We've worked in optical materials making photonic structures this is actually a tungsten structure that we created. So an interesting three dimensional metallic structure and we actually do a lot of work chance talk today on fabrics. So how can we functionalize fabrics by putting nano scale coatings on these fabrics to modify their properties. So not only do we we make materials but we also make the equipment that makes material so we make the stuff that makes the stuff makes the stuff possible. So this is just pictures of equipment in our lab we now operate this is one of our L.D. reactors we operate to the reactors one is a third one is under construction. A fourth one. As in design of a sputtering tool and a variety of chemical synthesis equipment as well as well as a variety of measurement systems like Helix on a tree and property measurements like electrical property measurements. So briefly some of the material synthesis techniques that we're interested in currently are vapor phase deposition methods especially chemical vapor deposition methods. One of those methods is atomic layer deposition in atomic layered up positions a chemical vapor deposition method except for sequentially delivering the precursor So we're not delivering both the precursor and Korea who the same time is an attrition traditional C.B.D. process. Instead we deliver one precursor we purge remove that precursor we deliver the second precursor and so that confines our reactions just to the surface so that we get a single reaction layer of our molecule on the surface and then we purge off any excess and deliver a CO reactant and get again layer by layer deposition. That's conformal over complex three dimensional architecture so this is an example of crystal where we had bunch of colloidal Spears on the micro scale that had been assembled. We then infiltrated with our gases in the process to conform we coat those fears and then we etched away those fears so now the spheres are gone and we're just seeing the skeleton. That's remaining the photon a crystal skeleton that's remaining And so we can use these coatings for a variety of things including adjusting the wet ability of for example fabrics changing light absorption properties in in this case if he's in mechanical strength and other properties the other thing that we're really interested in this is more on the organic in again a hybrid material side is if we apply these these vapor phase precursors to organic material to Paul America materials they don't always behave as nicely as shown in this cartoon they don't always just react right at the surface. Instead they can actually do. Fuse into the subsurface of the polymer and generate organic in again a hybrid layers and so we're very interested in the kinetics of this process and this is one big effort in our lab and happy to talk to people about that afterwards. We're find a lot of interesting properties with these new hybrid materials that were created. OK But today's talk will focus on a different type of hybrid material really that interface will hybrid mature we look at molecules on surfaces and applying our vapor phase deposition techniques alle the techniques to formally code around these molecules and stabilize the attachment of the molecules to the surface so I'll begin to talk this is the introduction I'll begin with the motivation for why we do this and talk about the importance of performance and stability for these molecularly functionalize devices. I'll show you sort of our preliminary successes that are naive at this point chemical understanding of these interfaces because a very complex interface we're talking about you know a molecule that's maybe one to two nanometers thick and then the layer that we're depositing that's only a few angstroms thick So how do we understand how we probe the chemistry and in the electronic transport process these are occurring at the interface it's very challenging. And they don't give you two technological case studies where we've applied this technology and looked at the device performance one is a Dyson solar cell and the other is a water oxidation cathode So it's basically this process electric process and then I'll show sort of where our work fits in perspective with other groups that have now picked up and then starting to look at using this similar technology for gluing molecules to surfaces for other applications. OK So first let's talk about what they're functionality. So we're with these projects we're interested in working collaborating with chemists we're developing new molecules to do a variety of different things right so chemists have become over the last thirty years or so very good at designing molecules that can either absorb light over very specific wavelengths can emit light over a specific wavelengths can. Create electron transfer between that molecule and some inner Gaelic substrate to specifically catalyze certain certain reactions or to bind molecules for by molecular sensory and other applications. So they're very good at this. And in fact when we take these molecules we put them in solution. And we test their properties we can often record record beating functionalities because we can design the chemistry. So precisely. The challenge is often that when we do it in solution. We really can't couple it to the outside world. And so the couple you know the functionality the outside world world we often have to attach these molecules to some sort of solid state device and that's really a challenge that we've been looking at how do we attach these molecules effectively and robustly to a solid state device that we can interact. You know with with with with with the exterior world. So this requires both creating maintaining the performance of the molecule and maintaining the attachment to reliability of such a device so me just just go back for a little bit and talk about you know performance reliability. If we look in the literature performance really get all the glamour and really is as often forgotten about. So this is a nice review article from it's a few years old now two thousand and ten where they talk they actually do discuss a bit about reliability particularly the most famous probably molecular functionalize devices a Dyson style solar cell in this review. They say there is there is certainly been few published results contain module fission seeds in combination with data from accelerator outdoor testing of D.S.C. modules an interesting trend is that the publications dealing with module stability generally have lower module efficiencies in publications where stability is not mention So people often report performance and not reliability in fact they go on to say that the devices offering the best long term stability are often different from those exhibiting the highest. Vice efficiencies. The stability of a D.S.C. module. They've concluded strongly related not to how it's designed but rather how the device is in capsulated So we'll talk a little bit more about the importance of encapsulation up to this point and why that's been used really to get reliability not inherently changing the devices. OK So before we do that let's think about let's look at what causes degradation in these molecular functionalize devices. So first a bit of an overview for a Dyson site solar cells everyone's on the same page here. So that's inside solar cells are nanostructure devices where you attach dye molecules that absorb light the light comes in and the electronic orbitals electron gets excited from the homo to the loo and it gets injected into the into the inner again at me in a structure and so this process needs to occur to then collect the charge on the electrode and run the place whatever the load happens to be so if you look at this. There's a number of mechanisms for degradation. But probably the most important fundamentally is the desertion of the dye from the surface. So if we lose the dye we're no longer going to be able to transport transfer that charge upon light absorption from the dye to the Inner Game six pieces and the reason dies does or primarily is due to water water attacks the binding chemistry between the dye molecule and the inner game except for us. OK so there's been many studies not just chosen to demonstrate the importance of water attack causing this or passion of of like their species on inner Gammick surfaces. This is a nice. Set of ab initio simulations showing the molecular dynamics of this process where they have a square rain die molecule attached to the surface. With a car box a look as a group of believe in this case they've placed it in basically in a quiz that environment right these are all these water molecules running around in the environment and when they look at this event you get hydraulic attack of one of these attachment chemistries which can be a problem but even in the case of a multi Dentate binding of a molecule So in this case we have to binding sites you might expect that this might reattach at some point before this one detaches. The problem they found in this particular simulation study was that once this detaches the water molecules start to surround this and sort of prevented from reattaching to the surface and so this drives it or makes it even more unstable and so eventually gives a sufficient time than other water molecule can attack the second site and sort of the molecule another another issue. The can happen is really a bounce of charge that occurs and so this is an experimental study where they're looking at the surface coverage of different diet molecules as a function of PH So you get some Vironment changing the PH and as you change ph you're going to change the Zeta potential the surface essentially the surface charge. Right. So in this case we're looking at a T O two surface and when you go below about PH six you get a positive charge on the surface above ph six you get a negative charge these these species are predominantly negatively charged species but as we sow as we go to lower ph is we expect that the positive charge on the surface will start to attract these molecules to the surface and create attachment. So in this case B. and C. are these core box elated. Species we see we don't have sufficient silica assets here to neutralize charge. So in this case we don't have electric stack attraction. Ever attached for the case of B. we do see attachment of a fuss phonic acids are known to statically it's even better attachment to higher PH is but even eventually with strong chemical binding we get this type of attack where we get detachment of the molecules so effectively what we're seeing here is that as we go to higher PH experimentally to lecture the analytically strip molecules from the surface you go to higher PH is and you can completely remove any sort of dye molecule attached to an inner again exorcise OK so this problem even becomes more complicated when we add other stimuli including light or electricity so we want to put this into a real device where we either want to run current through the device or we want to expose it to light to absorb light for example for a solar cell. Well this causes even more attachment points so this was a study done by my colleague Ken Hansen prior to us collaborating where he was looking at these die molecules acid bound to an oxide substrate and he looked at their detachment as he was exposing them to blue light and so not only were we in some ways environment but we were also exposing them to light and he tracked then using you even is how much die was on the surface as a function of time exposure to light and we see rapid detachment within sixteen hours and so in this particular case I believe we're we're a very low ph ph one. So you'll see from the previous study that you have Ph One we should be well attached to the surface especially for FOSS phonic acid. But here as soon as we extend it to expose it to light. We lose. And we detach the small. Kills within a period of less than one day. So this is this is really a challenge as we add additional stimuli so the system but this point might say wait. If I go into Amazon. I can buy Di sensitize solar cells. So why is that OK So this is a for example keyboard for your laptop it has three and a half stars on Amazon must not fail real immediately. So certainly there has been some commercial of ation of these dice or solar powered backpacks and the key there was to improve the efficiency it's about greater than eight percent but also to create reliable performance of these devices and the way they've gotten to reliable performance is not really an elegant way rather it's through brute force. It's really just using very good sealants on the exterior of these devices to take your device and then it capsulated it with a really good glue a really good poxy the case. So it's better than Elmer's There's in fact an entire industry surrounding the design of the Z. poxy is to encapsulate these die sensitized types of devices the other trick here of course is that the electrolyte they're using is non-equal is right. Synonymous with electrolyte and then seal it to prevent any ambient water from getting in. OK but what if the device that we want to use the device design necessitates exposure Damis fear war for example if we're doing some sort of catalytic process. It was environment we must have it you know in in water itself. And there's certainly a number of molecular or functional molecules that chemists are designing to do just that whether it be water based Dyson size solar cells fuel cell catalysts water splitting catalysts for hydrogen fuel generation C O two reduction biological protection. And so on and so forth. So if the chemists aren't wasting their time designing these we should we must find a way to attach them in a real environment because our approach has been instead of gluing on the X. here what if we were able to glue the molecule right at the site of attachment and that's really been been the revolution the that we've created is attaching the molecules right at the surface. And so our approach again has been using these days deposition techniques atomic layer deposition so we've gone over the process. This is one of the reactors in in our in our system again I remind you that we can can formally coat these nanostructures with no problems. So ten twenty nanometer particles we've shown that we can formally coat those you saw that on the first slide of this talk. The other important thing here is we can deposit these materials with about one angstrom percent. So you'll see in a few minutes that obviously we don't want to hurt the performance of these devices so we need to be very precise and how much material. We're encapsulating these molecules with. Because I will say. To be very clear there has been work done previously were people taken nano porous man a porous oxide scaffold. Applied to nail the coding and then attaching a molecule in this really to understand the photo physics of electron transfer between the molecule in your nano oxide scaffolds or putting in Slayer's or conductors in between changing the thickness of people done that. Previously would had not been done previously was to take the scaffold apply your molecules and then do the deposition and the reason that people didn't do that was because they assume that these very reactive precursors would react with their molecular functionality and we kind of thought that might happen as well it turns out that so far we haven't really seen my. Dacian or much less degradation that we would have expected when we do these processes and so there really were usually not very limited most of these reactions occur below well below two hundred degrees Celsius so we're not hurting the organic molecules thermally but we were concerned with with reactions. Between our vapor phase precursors and the surface of our molecules. So this is an example here of a common dye molecule using the S.S.E. devices N seven one thousand this is the molecular structure here. But if we look at the U.V. visit absorption especially Just where does the DI absorb light that's its prime functionality. We see that the black curve is just the bare die on a nano porous substrate and then if we coat with two three cycles that's about one half angstroms or aluminum three cycles or about three angstroms we still see a fairly strong absorption and maybe a slight blue shift. So we do lose some absorption but not that much and slight blue shift in the absorption we believe that's some modification to these groups and we've also looked at this catalytic molecule that use for water oxidation we thought for sure that this one would react we have an actual Aqua Ligon here on the site and many of our precursors react with water that's the CO react and so we actually went through a whole protection chemistry on one of the first experiments we did which it turns out that using protection chemistry or not using protection chemistry. We got the same results. The material was still catalytically active and likely what's happening is that we're hydrogenated. The catalyst prior to doing it because we're being done in a vacuum environment essentially no water environment so we're driving that water molecule off. Prior to doing the deposition. So this is an example here it will show you just a quick movie of if we take these these these slides of the dyed slides and we place them in a high ph. So we know high ph and strip the surface of all the molecules and so you'll see we have one that has just been dyed and then to the been ale be treated after dying. And we'll see the dye molecules in real time actually being stripped off of of the electrodes so the bare here. Treated. OK performance illuminance even better performance. So after about ten minutes we start seeing dye coming off of the untreated and really no diet coming off so it's pretty obvious even just visually that we're losing dye in these devices. So if we actually look at this quantitatively we can track the U.V. visible. Of these slides in this ph ten environment as a function of time. And we see that. Yes without a coating we can strip off all of the die within about twelve hours or so the T O two code in this case. I gave us some improved stability the aluminum coating gave us a very good stability. We retain about ninety percent of the dye molecules after even fifty hours in this very aggressive high ph environment. So we gone a bit further to look at again if we expose this to light. So this was ten ran these experiments now or is he had done before. When we expose these to light. We saw even faster detachment of these molecules so without a coating if we can plot the desertion concert for these materials we see that as we add this aluminum coating even just one angstrom ones. Like all of this material we can in prove the attachment by about in order to terms of decreasing the coefficient for these molecules and we've also looked a little bit at trying to analyze the chemistry that's occurring in situ so this was a system set up at N.C. State where we had an actual In Situ F.B.I. Our with with our a reactor and so we were doing in situ I.R. spectroscopy while we were doing it and we could look at each half cycle so each exposure of a precursor we could see was occurring in our reaction so these are the spectra that we collected as we dose the alumina precursor the aluminum precursor then the water aluminum water etc etc for three cycles. Your initial spectra here is shown as the spectra each of these specter shown is a different specter from the immediately prior spectra and so features like this indicate a shift in the peak position. Features like this indicate just the elimination of a particular stretch. OK So we see for example. These are stretches from these unbound carb oxalic acid groups and within a single exposure to R T M A. We see a removal of those sorts of stretches in the material the size sign a group we see this back and forth motion so we're somehow modifying the thought with each precursor Co reactant cycle and then these C.E.O.'s stretches we actually also see you'll see up down up down up down and then sort of the reverse of that on the other side if you look very closely. It's actually a shift that we're seeing. So we're seeing these these these asymmetric and symmetric stretches sort of getting closer and farther away from each other so we plotted that difference in the symmetric an asymmetric stretch stretching those of these C.E.O.'s. Groups and we see with each half cycle. We're sort of oscillating back and forth with both precursor chemistries that we're using and what that sort of indicates and this is somewhat interpretive what we're observing is a change in the binding state of the C.E.O. group from Amman and then Tate to buy Dentate so the water is probably releasing this from a mana Dentate to a book by Dentate a sort of binding group so we have some understanding we know there are some modifications going on but the exact chemical physics that are happening here are still pretty difficult to ascertain. So me show you now sort of if we take this this this idea and we apply it to two different devices the type of performance that we can we can achieve. So the first example or for Dyson inside solar cells. And so we might imagine that if we start applying a nail the layer to a Dyson sized solar cell that it may act or may somehow manipulate the transfer of electrons that needs to occur from the dye molecule into the name of scaffold it's and so this is what we would expect to occur and it is what we observe. So this is just again a band energy diagram all the prophecies. There are occurring and we can look at some of these processes using transit absorption spectroscopy right so we look at the rate at which each of these processes occur so we can look at this recombination process where if we excite the the electron into the Lumo of the dime all the Kulin it can't enter for whatever reason it can't inject it decides instead to recombine we can see that with fluorescents the transit fluorescence measurement injection we actually weren't able to directly measure we're doing that right now. Tim leans group at Emory but we can infer that from some other measurements and then we can look at back electron transfer using transit absorption spectroscopy looking at different. Excited modes on the molecules. OK so I won't go I have the details of someone to talk afterwards I can show you the details of those measurements. This is sort of the picture that we've created based on those measurements so without a coating we know that there's high injection that occurs and there's some back electron transfer so we want mostly injection we want to be collected by the device we don't want it to the lecture come back into the die but in fact even at. Even for a standard device we actually have more injection injections even faster than we need then we need it to be so we could take a bit of a hit to injections still have a high performing device. Unfortunately when we add the alumina code even at three anx terms or so we really really hurt the injection in the device but also prevents back electron transfer so it's really acting as it insulators one might expect. And we can't inject nor can we can we do we have electrons coming back with the T. out to coding we still we found as we maintain about the same high injection rate is as far as we could detect and what we see even higher back electron transfer rates than we had seen previously. So he had to just seems to be acting as a conductor because often the scaffold itself is T O two. So we're just making the scaffold closer to the molecule itself. Now as you'll recall the alumina has great stability. OK stability. So we came up with this very naive hypothesis that what if we mix the aluminum with the two could we get sort of a synergy of these properties or an averaging of these properties. OK So we actually went ahead and made some dice and sell devices this is a control device with no L.D. coatings we get about seven and a quarter percent efficiency so reasonable fission see dies as I solar cells if we just go ahead and put three cycles of alumina to we take quite a hit in efficiency maybe thirty percent to fifty percent reduction. Efficiency. So this is the pure the pure case however. If we now do mixtures we did a couple different ways we did mixtures and this is two cycles of alumina the one cycle two are we versus those we can actually get within ninety percent of the initial efficiency of the unmodified device so now we're we're pretty close to where we were. And if we look at the efficiency. As we age. These devices so this is a standard aging test where we do eighty degree C. in the dark side and of an eight degree C. we find and this is again it would help a lot. I'll point out here. Oftentimes people normalize these sorts of plots. We're not normalizing this data here this is actual fission see of the devices and so we see after about one hundred hours. Our devices are equivalent to our control devices and beyond that they show a higher efficiency in the control so the control has degraded at a faster rate and ends up being lower performing then our coated devices stuff we can pair this to the literature data. So this is our uncoded our control device we see this almost a forty percent drop in efficiency over four hundred hours. This is our OP sort of our optimized device and with this mix alumina to we get about twenty percent drop in efficiency again this is this is true. Fission C. This is a gradual device so aggressive devices they have their magic command of structuring that reproduce anywhere else in the world and they get you know upwards of twelve percent efficiency and this is what and seven thousand so no one of their fancy that's still not as good as their best devices. But when they test that for four hundred hours it drops to about seven low under seven percent efficiency so we're you know we're pretty close to that efficiency even though our starting fish and see is much lower and they obviously lose a lot more efficiency when they do this sort of aging test and we do so if we can get a. All of their devices we can probably improve their their door ability much better. This is a comparable study from another group that makes nice devices and they get about the same efficiency as we do initially when they age theirs they lose about sixty percent. So we think we're doing very good in terms of improving the reliability of these molecularly functionalized devices. So the second example is water oxidation catalyst molecule. So the Meier group. They've been working working on these molecules I think for twenty to thirty years now making these receiving molecules that are used for water oxidation catalysts for for solar fuel applications. OK so here we need to be in a quiz environment so we can take the water molecules and convert them into oxygen. And this particular case we're not doing it and we're just doing it. Driven So it's just an electrolyzer but instead of having platinum as your catalyst. We're using this molecular species as a catalyst on the OK so this is the picture of the chemical route that you used for the station it's a multi-step process that will go and that will look at the details a little a little bit but what we can see when we you know when we do cyclical Tammy tree. We can see this redux couple related to this process here and that indicates that the that that that we're getting catalytic activity. Now if we run the cyclical to metry you know multiple times we start to see a reduction in the currents indicating that these molecules are coming off of the surface and they're detaching So this loss in current is indicative of degradation of the device. So increasing number of cycles loss of catalytic molecules. So we went ahead and took. A control device and then we started coding these devices with increasing cycle numbers of T.-O. to what we saw was improved stability less loss of current eventually at about twenty cycles. We essentially see no loss of our electric catalyst current. However if we go to thick thirty forty cycles we're now this layer is now about one and a half to two nanometers these molecules are also about one and a half to two nanometers So we're actually coding. Now we've actually are coding is reached the top of the molecule and we're coding over the molecule and so these particular molecules. We're going to they're going to lose their activity because we're now no longer able to access the reaction sites for these devices so we eventually see a loss in our redux couple because we're coding basically the entire molecule. So this is just a plot of surface coverage from integrating the docs couple that C.V. curve. We can track the percentage of molecules on the surface as a number of cycles. No L.D. code and we see loss of surface coverage with an algae coating of optimize of twenty cycles. We see great stability for a variety of PH is from neutral ph up to PH of eleven. Now this is important because we can actually access different reaction kinetics based on the Ph. We're working at so if we go back and look at the mechanism for for this oxidation catalyst. This is the rate limiting step rate here. So the rate let me step is essentially when you add the second water molecule to your catalyst site and during this process you're forming the oxygen oxygen bond. So you need to add an O. H. Group to this receiving five complex. OK so so it ph is less than five this is really this is the. Ism for this reaction is just direct attack of a water molecule to the writhing in five complex as we increase the Ph. We now have some species in there some sort of conjugate based species that's creating you know our increase in PH They can then active Stracke the hydrogen from a water molecule creating an atom proton transfer process that facilitates the attachment of the group to the thinning five so that's of course an easier process to facilitate and so has faster reaction kinetics or even faster would be if we get a high enough ph is where we just have a lot of hydroxyl ions floating around in solution then we can directly attack a hydroxyl eye on earth in five complex. So what we're actually able to do by stabilizing these devices is to push our reaction mechanisms to different to different mechanisms right so Ph seven we start to see the atom transfer proton transfer process and as we increase Ph. We can actually get to direct attack from. And so we're showing here are just the curves and the same over potential So as we change ph that over potential is going to shift and so if we go to the same over potential we should see the same current but because we're seeing increasing currents that's indicating there we're getting different reaction processes that are in fact have faster reaction kinetics and so we can actually verify that these highs ph is we are getting direct attack from hydroxyl by looking at the reaction rate I.E. the electric chemical current as a function of ph which is essentially just the concentration of the O. H. on and so we see a linear reaction kinetic reaction rate as a function of zero eight species which is what we would expect for a first order reaction. With the Hydrox on. OK And so what that allows us to do is we've actually increased reaction kinetics by a couple of words of magnitude. This is actually one hundred thousand times faster than the process these occur. Lois ph is and that's really prior to demonstrating this the only reactions they could run or at PH is less than five because the molecules just don't don't don't adhere to the surface. Except for at the lowest those lowest ph is. So let me show just our work in perspective. So there's Michael Rose's group at U.T. Austin is now begun looking at using email deed to attach molecules to surfaces to use to shift electronic band structure of interfaces. There's also a very nice work from the hop group up at Northwestern where they're using these ale detached die molecules for. Dye sensitize solar cells so not only are they getting increased ability but they're also improving the wet ability of the wet ability to manage structure to allow your age with electrolyte to permeate the entire structure. And so I think there's a lot of opportunity actually in a quiz die sense type solar cells. Not only because of our stability demonstrations but also there's been work coming out about new redux couples that work more efficiently in the Queen's environments. So to summarize today's talk is the first of all that surface bound functional molecules Who great promise for a variety of devices whether it be in catalytic applications or bio sensing or energy applications like I sensed a solar cells. The challenge with these devices the. Versal challenge is maintaining attachment of our molecular species to a device scaffold. And what we shown is about using L. do you. We can effectively glue these molecules to a surface. And still remain tain the properties of these materials I've lost some texture it looks like but you'll see that you know through continue understanding of the interface chemistry and the electronic transfer process is there curry at these interfaces we can create a set of rational design principles for understanding how to design these complex organic inner Gaelic devices and not only can we improve the build up of tension we can access. New reaction pathways that also enhanced the performance of our devices. So that our knowledge number funding sources as well as our collaborators both in the Research Triangle Park as well as now here in Georgia Tech and angry. So thank you for your attention. I would love to find someone who does that and collaborate with them because I think there's opportunity there. But I don't know that field. So I'm definitely looking for a collaborator. And we you know. And we and we can do a potters' we can do lots of things. So it doesn't need to be a flat substrate or a nano scaffold. So I'd love to talk. So it's faster. It's still not fast platinum. It's still orders of magnitude slower but the surface area there is a strict they play with surface area to try to get it closer to platinum. So this is another. Another secret of the molecular catalyst folks is that a lot of these things are still not as fast as the inner game but you can get away with loading nanostructures and getting pretty close. And so I don't think there's an issue with heat. I think there is an issue with the nano structures in the gas transport once you form these bubbles. I'm not sure if he does an issue that you raise here. So you know our best guess is it's just Eric just preventing it from. Attacking. We know you know you can look up in Port Bay diagrams what the electro chemical stability of different oxides are. And so we know we'll use some other oxide that will dissolve and basically detach see do we have any other. Evidence. That's so that is your question. I mean that's our best understanding we would love to understand we've been doing some studies with Tim leans group. So we think there may there's this question right. And we're talking about and sure as a material whether or not it's going over top or underneath or how much of that is occurring we have some indications that in terms of the lecture on transfer that we might gain just a little bit underneath because we see some differences in the injections. And we're doing work with tens group at Emory where they're doing. Measurements some frequency generation measurements where they can track the spatial orientation of molecule before and after alle D. and so we do see rearranging somehow modifying its position. This is one of the things that to me isn't one of the biggest challenges how do we characterize the structure of the bank. I mean we've we've done a lot of I mean I can if you want. We have trays absorption measurements we've done is that what. You're asking your. So you know we have a number of measurements that we've done said transits or some measurements and we could I could have them all hidden here but. We've done in terms of looking at electron transfer rates. You know we've looked at so this is the simplest example right where we've we've taken with this is for alumina. And as we this is basically these are the trans absorption spectra for increasing aluminum thickness more centrally seeing this is tracking back electron transfer so higher. So if we if this if the states retained it means the electron is as not transmitted back and so a higher. Higher signal here higher that in this direction from zero indicates that slower back electron transfer rate this decays this is a slower decay than this is so without any L D. We see a fast decay fast back electron transfer here slow back electron transfer. And so we have a number of a measure to we actually don't see much of a change. And we some see some interesting things in the four essence which tells us about the process and so we've interpreted some of this we've not measured this directly. This is the thing that we're working with him now big. We need to get to pico second measurements these are named all nano second measurements these transit absorption measurements so we need a faster measurement system to probe that directly but I sort of summarize this does that. Does that does that give you that so I've summarize it all here in one slide to make it very simple and not to go into all the details but I'm happy to discuss more and we have some publications on that.