Please give a warm Georgia Tech Welcome to you Paul ground thank you thanks it's a real privilege to be here and thank you for coming in on the right first week of school is the first week back or second second we've got my daughter's a sophomore at S.M.U. and they don't start until next week and so but of course it is tech So it's a lot harder so you start out or you tell her that So what I thought I would do is try to make this as interactive as possible to talk a little bit about the the journey that we are on at Arby's and it certainly is a journey I tend to be a little bit of a glutton for punishment like turnaround situations I've had an opportunity particularly at Hilton right before Arby's to be part of a leadership team that took a business that was in a fairly difficult spot right at the beginning of the recession get the business a better place and and turn into a great result for the shareholders and so I decided to take on this opportunity at Arby's as C.E.O. to do the same thing so what I'll start doing is it is explain a little bit give a background of R.B.S. the situation that it was in and then what we're trying to do kind of how we are going about trying to turn around the company and turn around the brand and show some of the results early signs are good so far so first if I do this right. Just a little bit about R.B.C. hopefully most of you have eaten at Arby's before but it is a fairly significant fast food brand it has been around for fifty years in fact we celebrated our fiftieth anniversary last year and not a lot of fast food companies a lot of restaurant companies actually been around for fifty years it was founded in the middle of the country Boardman Ohio. The raffle brothers in fact the original R B was. The original what they one of the name of it to be but they couldn't do that because it was trademark so they used the phonetic spelling bees and that's how the name came along just for you that we're interested in that but it's actually neat because the company did start in the middle of the country and work its way to the coast which most brands actually think about them start on one coast to the other worked their way in so that has something to do about the culture and heritage in a very American type of culture and the company it's very seen as a very Americana type of brand has thirty four hundred restaurants vast majority of them in the United States we do have restaurants in Canada Turkey and Qatar which people say Well Turkey and Qatar have that happen. Certain franchisees want to do them and that's kind of how they got started there were actually at fifty in Turkey and we have over one hundred in Turkey in the next several years one of the opportunities for the brand is obviously expand more internationally three point two billion dollars and system sales so if you add up all the sales of all the restaurants about a third of the restaurants are company owned and two thirds of the restaurants are franchise and so we are a mixture of that we have nine hundred fifty company restaurants the revenues of the company are one point one billion which is a combination of what we make from our own restaurants most royalties off of the franchise restaurants and we have been on a nice run so far we've had seventeen consecutive quarters of same store sales growth which I'll talk about why this happened and that's fairly unique in the industry particularly right now and then also as far as the number of people that it employs we have seventy one thousand people that work for the Arby's brand twenty one thousand of them work for the company in our company owned restaurants and the remaining team members work in franchise restaurants so it doesn't employ It's a very people oriented business which is something that always excites me there's a lot of problems that come with a people oriented business but I really love the experience of people who were inside of it more talk about that going forward so what was the problem. If you look back at the time of the last downturn RB suffered dramatically during that town turn out a lot more than most restaurant companies did and there were a lot of reasons behind that first a kind of lost sight around what it was trying to be is a brand and it got too tightly defined around a particular product roast beef in fact if you think about Harvey's today most of us a roast beef in is very defined around roast beef and in fact they at the time said We are a roast beef company and everything we're to do is roast beef The challenge with that is while roast beef is a great product not everybody wants to roast beef all the time and so that kind of narrowly defined the space it had gotten where there was no product innovation going into the downturn and also was distracted by a merger with Windies And so you may have you know when you think about people say it was a part of Wendy's actually Arby's and Windies merged in two thousand and seven right before the downturn and so a lot of distraction was going on so a combination of lack of product innovation pretty poor marketing service levels of degraded in fact they degraded even worse after two thousand and eight in a lot of distraction going on with a big corporate merger we saw a significant decline in formants So what you see here is starting in two thousand and six the blue line is what the industry tracked if you set them both to the same point to index their average unit volumes to one hundred starting in two thousand and six the blue line is what the quick service industry did quick service which is the McDonald's the. Includes Pizza Hut's all the fast food chains you think are Q.S. are and then what Arby's paua performed during that same period of time and you saw that it was a tremendous decline and even during we'll say was that part of because the recession well if you compare it to the industry armies did a lot worse than that in fact it's hard to find a brand or restaurant brand. That did any worse relatively during that time period than Arby's and what that did was take its average unit volumes down challenge the economics greatly and get to a point where our Windies decided that they had to do something about that and what they decided to do was sell because if you frankly I got tired of answering the question I have an answer question during the endless calls around yeah that's great but what about our bees so they decided to sell our bodies to a private equity firm private equity firm is work Capital Partners which is capital manager rather which is based here in Atlanta right down the street actually they hire some people from Georgia Tech they specialize in franchise of all multi-unit brands a lot of those being restaurants but not all restaurants and they saw an opportunity in this and said it by taking it private by focusing on the brand again by bringing in new management by investing capital back in the business they said there's an opportunity for this to be a great business again and so they bought that about four years ago and then two years into about eighteen months into it brought me on so that's kind of the situation so the question is not how we have them what how we try to address this what's the approach that I in the management team of taken on trying to turn the business in the brand around and I kind of distill it down into really answering in addressing I call almost the five most important questions and business and because I think as a senior team and as particularly is the C.E.O. if you are clear around the the answer to these questions over the right answer these questions but if you're clear about these answers questions and drive these through this is a great way of approaching I think getting a business back on track and keeping it on track so what are the first question is why do we exist. I think it's really important for a brand and for a company to be clear on what its purpose is there is a great book and a great TED Talk. How many of you heard Simon Sinek talk on start with why I think it's a wonderful book you don't even really need to read the book just Google Simon Senate starts with why in the eighteen minutes it's a second most watched Ted talk I think still ever talks about why it's important for any organization to be clear on its purpose both from the fact that consumers like to do business with brands that have a higher order purpose even if they can't necessarily articulate what that is they can sense what that is and certainly team members like to be part employees like to work for his ations and companies that are clear on their purpose hopefully it's a purpose that they can align around and when you're clear on that purpose everything else everything else should fall out of that and align with that purpose statement and it needs to be something I believe in a lot of people say vision mission you call it whatever you call I like to call it purpose statement because there's always this big debate around missions versus visions and those kind of things so fine which is called Purpose and not even have to have a debate but it should be something that survives for a long period of time should be relatively lofty and in fact when you come up with a purpose for the first time it should generate a little bit of an eye roll it should but it shouldn't be so ridiculous that people can't see it going so we went through this process the mantra team and said What would be the purpose of our bodies and we look back spent time and try to rooted in the past not make it up completely new and we came up with a statement. On our purpose is to inspire smiles through delicious experiences and we every word in this matter and what we were trying to convey first and foremost I go backwards is I wanted to really get it right as mine around the fact. That we are in the experience business but we're not in the food service business yes we serve food right but ultimately that is the means to an end the means to an experience and if you think about the fact that if you're in the service business every service business really should think about your the experience business your facilitating experience whether that be straight up nourishment and feeding somebody when they're hungry whether that be the experience that our food may actually facilitate when you take it back home with your family or being aware of the fact that people are always coming everybody has a back story right when somebody walks into that restaurant it comes a drive through they're coming from somewhere going to somewhere and having that empathy in thinking about that fact the number of letters that I get around the fact that I was having this horrible day I was coming in the hospital and my wife you know having to visit my wife in the hospital and I went into your restaurant and they just had a smile on their face and they gave me a hot water speech sandwich or a hot curly fries and I felt so much better right that is an exciting business to be and in so really raised that delicious is a word that's been part of the brand for a really long period of time and so that sets a bar it's not just about experiences about delicious experiences and everything we do need to be able to held up to that bar both literally and figuratively and then inspiring smiles is kind of ultimately the law of the of course if you're in the experience business what was your objective be to inspire a smile and in fact my what I would like to be is if we're successful long term you can even drop the external issues experience at some point say are our purposes fire smile Disney has one of the best purposes of ever her does and I know Disney's mission statement vision same a purpose to make people happy that's a great that's a great you know I mean who wouldn't want to work for a company of any that you know their their their goal is to make people happy so once you answer that the second question is what are our beliefs right so what or so we're here here's why we exist what are our beliefs that's another way of saying what are about as our company baddies. Values are really important in a company in there really extremely important a franchise system because what they do is they set the guardrails right there in the movable way that we work and I think it's important for values of a company to be not just the human being kind of words right honesty integrity and that's great but you wouldn't want to hire anybody who wasn't honest or didn't have integrity I think it's good to go beyond that and have to work that actually define you I was lucky that Arby's had had the set of values for a little over a decade but they stopped talking about them and so we really we invigorated that and they're great values think about it dream big work hard get it done play fair have fun and make a difference great values in what we do is make those come to life and we have we tell stories around that and we celebrate people that are examples of those values in people that actually aren't you know work out of those values there are consequences to that but that really sets what I company in a brand is this may sound like a bunch of soft stuff it is kind of soft in many ways but it's really the glue that holds it together and it's amazing and a business particularly with seventy one thousand front line often part time people that they really people want to work for a company that has strong values people want to be part of that and actually we talk in terms of that and it really defines what we do. So now it gets a little bit harder in that you know this starts a little soft and we get a lot so the third is OK so fine we know what we're about we know what our beliefs are OK fine so where we go what is our strategy and so we embarked upon an exercise to really define you know in a very classic fact this is a slide of a B.C.G. deck could have been a slide McKinsey back at work for both and you know of. Find what our strategy is and what does that mean what is the space that we're going to play and what's the competitive space that we should be playing in where is there white space where do we have a right to play as a brand based upon our history and our capabilities which by the way I also believe strategy based on capabilities is is incredibly important lot of people who side of that if you can make sure that it's rooted in your capabilities. That are differentiated and so we went out there and to find that space and did it in a very big you know there's a binder like any other strategy with lots and lots of data behind it. Now and that's a great thing to do the challenge is while only about ten people will take the time to read that and can understand that So the big challenge is once you come up with a strategy assuming it's the correct one how do you actually start driving that through and communicate that and so before you this I what we were so what we've done is we've come up with some names around that so the first thing we did is really define clearly the competitive space and the challenge that Arby's has had in the past is it's always been not this and not that it's kind of been a tweener thing right so it's not burger it's really not traditional fast food you know it really kind of says you had it own space but it was a people talk about it like we're not this we're not that so instead of doing that why don't we actually come up with what we are and so we said we're going to follow We're going to play between Take us our space and fast casual how many people you know fast casual would be is the trendy restaurants that are starting it's still a very small segment but it would be the Chipotle lazed and the willies and fire house and you know so it's a little bit of an industry made up term but anyway it's kind of the upper end of Q.O.S. are and we said we're going to we're going to occupy that ideal space but. Tween the two and we're going to make up our own name for it because why not instead of saying where in between we're going so we are we came up with this name called Fast crafted and in fact kind of stole a little bit of a line from Starwood very sternly made up the term lifestyle hotel we now use lifestyle hotel like it is what it is he actually just made that up because he said I'm coming up with a new category I'm going to call it what I want to call it so he called lifestyle hotel and so we kind of cheated and did our own version of that but the way that we when we defined how we went we're going to win versus the Titian or the McDonald's of the world if you will buy superior food and we're going to have superior service and we're going to win versus the Firehouse Subs of the world because we have comparable food it's going to be priced just below it and it's going to be more convenient more community because we have more locations and we have drive through is fact very few fast casual have drive through is right you have to get out you have to go in so it's not as convenient as it could be and if we do that we're actually going to win we're going to play on both sides now playing on both sides is a very for those that have spent a lot of time in strategy and for the press in the room that it can be a dangerous if done poorly that is a really bad thing to do you have to actually execute that be very clear exactly how you're going to differentiate here and exactly going to for to here or you can't you can't fail right so that you know we're very conscious of that and we'll talk about that so great so we do that and we have this great B.C.G. strategy document so what we do next and what we decide to do is I want to paint a picture literally paint a picture of what this looked and felt like and because in a franchise system particularly I can't just say this is what we're going to go do in make everybody go do it right we can do that for a third of our system but we have over four hundred franchisees with thirty two hundred twenty two hundred franchise units. That I need to get on board and so how do you get them on board cinema big B.C.G. deck that doesn't work I can tell you I've tried that before so what you could do is paint a picture and come up with terms and so we came with a term called our whole vision which is if we are successful as a brand this is what our bodies will look and feel like not literally but just kind of paint a picture and we call it deli inspired delicious saying that we're not trying to be a deli we're going to take our inspiration from Delhi's because what do what we think of Delhi's in the great delis not the public's delis with a great delis you think of high quality proteins you think of sandwiches put together in a way that you wouldn't easily make it home with unique ingredients you think of you know a neighborhood type of feel you think of Create think of creativity and so we said what does that look like and we actually created a book and I had a firm that's done this for me before Hilton that actually created a series of pictures this is what the buildings could look like if you're thinking Delhi inspired delicious This is Qana what you would think about that we went out and toured a lot of Delhi particularly in New York and went and took a lot of pictures as inspiration if you think about the food it's not in these rappers with bunch of logos all over it and it but it's actually wrapped up and it's the cut this kind of food. And so. We did that and got a line around it and it spent about three or four months. At least four months just getting a line around that vision because once everybody was bought in the vision the thought would be it's a lot easier to go through the executional steps of your advice kind of bought in with where you're trying to go. So the fourth question then that brings us to four QUESTION OK fine that's where we're going. Our we going to get there right so what are the steps to get there and if this if our path our destination the mountain we're going to take what if you want to call it is that deli inspired delicious and we're going to be there in five to six years. How are we going to get there and so you go through this process of lat everything needs a ladder up to that so if you see right here at the top we have our purposes in the middle our brand vision our values and then the next thing not surprising is the thing is Who are your customers right so if you if we're in here and there be to see business you can't go very long without talking about your customers and so we went through a process of being very clear on who not only our current customers are but who our target customers are and we went through a process in in everybody says well I feel like to start with demographics and talk about customers in terms of how male are they how female What's their how is their ethnicity and in a mass business like fast food that's not the you can't look at it that way because you serve you serve a lot of different types of people what we did is we decided to take a very psychic graphic approach to it and so we went in and said What are the who are the people that like the type of food that we serve and like the vision of Delhi inspired delicious and what are their belief system right what do they do what we have who are they are what are they as a person and how many of them are there and then we flip that back around and said OK based upon that water their demographics and we came up with a view of there was a much broader potential customer base for the brand than anybody would have ever thought if we just started with a pure demographic segmentation looking at who our current customers and let's go find more people that look like that. Because by the way if we had done that our current customer base was older wider more male and you know not necessarily not representative of where the country is certainly go in and where the fast food population is growing so we did that and then out of that we've made very clear about what our brand promises are voice. Our guest experience and I will go through this in detail but really laid it out in very clear detail everything laddering up to not surprising our purpose statement of and really communicated that. And then the last question is OK That's fine if we've laid all this out and we know where we're going this is the step that a lot of people forget but I think it's probably the most important one is what is each person's role in the journey you can also call the divided by me function if you have seventy one thousand people that you actually want to deliver this deli inspired delicious vision right well great that's fine but what is everybody's individual role in that and how do you think through all the elements of the experience and define it in such a way that everybody knows what they're trying to do and so for us we had to take this and it needed to align around all the touch points what does it mean for the product what it means for the service experience what it means for the actual physical plants in the buildings and what in service what does it mean for the marketing the message and by the way I put the marketing in the messaging last purpose because a lot of times you know brand guys me included like to start with you know get really fast the advertising and go straight to I'm doing it you know turning around a brand so what's the new ad campaign right well the new ad campaign is important but it only works my belief is that the new ad campaign actually supports and tells the story that is a story that people want to be part of you can put a new ad campaign on a product that nobody wants and you might get a little bit of a pop in sales but it's not going to fundamentally change it so so I'll just take you through a little that So what we did is really crease the pace of innovation and stop talking about roast beef it said look if people want to we have great roast beef it's a great recipe probably we have people that you know Arkham credibly loyal to that product but you know what if you want to roast beef sandwiches. Fast food format where you going artists do we need it to you know so do we want to if we want to bring in other people we need innovate around that and so we came up with products that we actually built off of proteins and that we had in the restaurants but put it together in interesting ways that tell an interesting story and really jump started that and you can see we started with a few two thousand and fourteen we had great we have so many prospects there were now all the way out into two thousand and sixteen because we've gotten so focused we've changed the whole process around product development we've changed our whole market research approach to who we talk to that it's really really sparking some very interesting great products that are certainly very differentiated we went through and change the whole in-store experience the menu the packaging all those kind of things which actually are not the easiest things that we did all this before we launched our new marketing campaign. And we also wanted to focus on the in-store experience and I'll pause here for a minute because this is perhaps one of the most important things that we're doing. Is the service culture it's a challenge in the fast food environment or any kind of service environment we're dealing with as many people in a high turnover environment of the seventy one thousand people that work for us the majority of them are part time majority of them are actually working temporarily in fact the average tenure restaurant employee on the front line is six months. And so you have part time high turnover and people that are not entirely gauging the brand I mean it's a job I'm going to be here for six months or so do I really care right so how do you get people engaged in so we said how do you get the message out and so we contest against Dole a little bit of a playbook out of Starbucks camp and modified it a little bit. So you may remember several years ago when Howard took Starbucks back over again he did a little bit of a stunt part stunt part reality where he shut all. All the restaurants down for an entire day. And retrain everybody on how to be a barista. And you know it served a real purpose which he did really retrain everybody and was a cultural reboot but it also was a nice little P.R. move in Starbucks being Starbucks they could afford to shut the whole brand down for an entire day so we decided to kind of do the kind of gentler version of that and we did it on a rolling basis but we invested in every team in every team member in every restaurant for half a day taking them out of the restaurant offsite and bringing them to all chefs and go through a lot of what I'm just talking about here take them through what the brand is trying to be why the brand vision is the purpose statement what we're trying to be who our target customer is and then also went through an exercise a personal goal setting the divided by me function taking them through the what are you trying to get by the way you're here for however long you hear what is what is what are you trying to get out of being part of Arby's which by the way if you think about the type of team member that works for us a lot of them come from environments where they've never been taught how to do personal Never never been asked actually think about what your goals are personal and business wise and then we take and then the last step is they go back out and reengage in the community either through charity or through canvassing the the public and so we did this in a period of two months we took twenty one thousand people through this exercise and then we have now had another fifty seven thousand people go through this this year we're going to do it again next year and it was a way of getting everybody we also changed our hiring process as our training process everything to align with this vision and we really saw you know we really saw a change and in people's pride we also uses the opportunity to Kohl we told the team members by the way this is the we told the General Managers this is the opportunity that if there are people that are currently working for you that you know. Are not going to be able to deliver this this is kind of the opportunity for them to kind of move on and go work at McDonald's or whatever they want to do and so we also use that opportunity and it really has changed a lot of the services and then finally the restaurants this is always the this is the we're not funny funny will be the marquee next to finally the restaurant this is the part that's hard it's a bricks and mortar business hotels are bricks and mortar business and one of the frustrating things about a brick and mortar business is you just can't wave your hand and change all the buildings at one time. So we in an Arby's has some good buildings and they have some challenge buildings shall we say the one on spring state down here was a challenge building and and hopefully we're working to get a new one not too far from from here but so we had to think about that how do we actually create a design a new design that works with a wide variety of buildings which makes economic sense for our owners and actually aligns with the brand and so we went through the whole process and we've come up with a whole new building design by the way this building right there became that building. Through a remodel probably looks like a completely different building and we can apply that design to us and this is the interior. Of and it looks like it actually looks surprisingly like that whole picture that we put very beginning around the vision for the interior and it's just an example of people latching on to that in finding out a way to do that it's finding out a way to do that in a cost effective environ we don't have unlimited budget these are fast food outlets so we can't go and spend ridiculous amounts of money so we had to value engineer this down and find a way that actually works and makes economic sense and it does these are generating fifteen percent sales increases when when we go with the new building design versus the old. Generating over twenty percent return on investment for capital so makes a tremendous amount of sense economically and we're seeing a lot of traction in it we also are going for we come up with new building designs let us going to urban locations for the first time very small footprints will we're looking for sites in Manhattan for the first time in a long time we're going to be in downtown Atlanta at the corner of Marietta and Peachtree in a very urban location in the base of a building by the mid in the next year very small footprints which completely changes the whole. Potential growth proposition of the brand. Finally it brings me to the marketing are so that's great you're doing all these wonderful things. You need to go tell the story in Arby's I don't know what your opinion of Arby's previous marketing different than you know current but previous marketing is I had a very poor opinion of it myself in fact they kept changing the tagline every couple of years there's a slide that was put together by our ad agency if you go back in two thousand and two we changed our tagline to every two years for that period of time so obviously if you're like if you're a customer on the outside you don't even you don't even know what Arby's is trying to say about itself so we decided to go through in the line with our deli inspired to Lucius we can harden ad agency and we said we want you to tell the story and what and we and most importantly we want you to tell it because in the in the personality that Arby's wants to be we want to be authentic it is what it is we're going to tell you what we're going to show you we want to be very transparent we want to you know have a little bit of humor about it but at the end of the day we're not trying to distract you sometimes marketing particularly fast food market is a little bit of a sleight of hand exercise if you think about right there doing all these things and open the way his sandwich Don't look at it too long right so there's you know the little bit they're trying to distract you about it WORKS AS want to come straight at it and so we came up with this whole they came up with this as. This called you know we have the meat because the issue is we have high quality proteins and really do much the same they can see you know very high quality proteins. And and a lot of a lot more than than roast beef a lot of we have a lot of high quality proteins people just don't know what they want to believe it so what do you do about that surprise surprise when we just tell people in fact the montra the ad agency I love it is so what you sell is that simple particular you sell good product you know sell a good product and I guess you can't use that approach but and and so. I will show you first. And I know how many people have seen one ad agencies come in they'll generally do the brand manifest sort of everybody aligned this is not a commercial but just care about it kind of aligned around what you're trying to be so I'll show you that brand manifesto for. Takes out a clear vision it's all say here we go it. Was me and. Me. So it was going to stay with us on our commercial but it. But it takes out a clear position I think it's important to take me for a brand like Arby's that stake out a position of who you are and most importantly who your target audience is not you can probably guess your target audience is not by watching those but that's OK. Because we've done the math and our target audience is bigger than the other one so. And so that's kind of the out of that came you know a set and I'll just show you a quick set of commercials that they kind of show you and you'll see that we've tried to differentiate ourselves again by being very clean crisp very open and honest about our product. And there's one more. OK so you can see and it set out you know a clear view of what we are and it's really I think got people's attention. I was going to so we've had some real wins in social media we in that that has come from us saying that social media is very important creating a dedicated social media organization and also empowering our team to speak for the brand we had a number of successes for else hat was one where we actually sent a tweet about frills had during the Grammys that until Ellen's tweet at the Oscars was the most reach we did tweet in history and and really got us back on the map in fact by the way that the gift keeps giving because we also bought the hat for charity in the Hat is going to be on the Grammys and it's part of the Grammys again this year which is kind of nice for us but we really try to just be authentic So we also got a lot of buzz around this ad we did for Pepsi and for some reason won't play here but you'll play the minute I think it's because there's price something in the system here that won't allow a Georgia Tech ad for Pepsi play. The story here is that Arby's is a Pepsi company it has been has to be for a while contractually won't get into the details on that. But we were supposed to show Pepsi twice a year in ads I didn't know that I wasn't really wanting to do that anyway and but they called us and said By the way you have not met your obligation you need to show a Pepsi and this was in November and. Most I don't know how to do that and so he had the ad agency say why don't you put together an ad that you know show me what you got so they came up with this which I said when I saw it said if Pepsi says OK which I can't believe they'll say OK go ahead and do it because it will get a lot of buzz and so I don't know if you can show them you to be. But it just shows how we're trying to have fun and be authentic. So that you had three million views before it even aired. Wall Street Journal just rated as the tenth the whole story around it in the buzz around it as the tenth. Biggest marketing story of two thousand and fourteen. You know one of the big marking stories put in perspective was the potential merger between publicists and. On the other ad agency so I mean it's a calm so it was fun. So I'll kind of wrap up we've had some great success and I want to show this is I'm running a little long here net net because I want to open up a Q. and A net net results so far I'm happy so I take that same chart and go back to two thousand and ten so where that last chart left off in re index the industry. Average unit volumes and hours together to one hundred and start in two thousand and ten you see the red line that we have outperformed what I get very excited about is what's been happening recently and that kink in the line actually corresponds actually perfectly with where we started really implementing the new strategy even pretty the marketing the marketing didn't start until right here but it just shows that you know it looks like what we're doing is working the financial results are also private equity firms happy as that way and we continue to make progress so early. Signs are a success so hopefully that gives you a bit of an overview of what we're trying to do and open up for any questions. And I know I did run I guess a few minutes long and I apologize for that. Of the of thank. You. Want to know more about your product development and if there are any specific programs you used in developing some of the new sandwiches or methods for coming up with new things yeah I mean the method starts with your being again Once you're clear on the vision we have a call on every team so we actually have corporate chefs that will come up with you know a potential almost a thousand different combinations of different things around certain platforms like we need to do this with beverages we want to sandwiches going to the sides and so they'll try lots of different types of combinations and then kind of filter that down through certain processes to a subset that we then take and put in front of consumers and so we have our version of focus groups so we recruit. Consumers that look like our target and it is like a focus we bring them in there sitting at desks and we describe the sandwich them put a price point to it and actually serve them each of these sandwiches one by one in a very controlled environment they rate all those sandwiches and out of that will come a very small subset of that that kind of ranks of the top we're also now taking an approach to that we want to look for food that is going to broaden the base two and so sometimes we were always take the highest rated one but we'll take the one that seems to bring in a new customer base versus just switch people around because sometimes you can say you know you'll do is bring in somebody instead of eating this when they go we need this when you want to bring in new Then we put it through an operational test because one thing about this this business is we. We have thirty four hundred restaurants so therefore thirty four hundred manufacturing plants and so you actually have to be able to. Go through the supply chain and make millions of these things every time you do it you know we serve six hundred million meals a year right so it's a high volume you have to make sure you can actually produce this and produce this quality and then if it passes that test will go through a full market test will actually put the product in a market and then turn on advertising and see what it does to that business versus control markets and then finally if it passes that test will go into you know become part of the menu or become a promotional item so it's actually a long process you can shorten the front end it's kind of hard to shorten the back end particular if you're making big bets on marketing so it can generally be. You want to be about a year out if possible because you really would like to be doing a market test for a product in the same season that you're actually going to launch it because some people might want to heavy steak sandwich in the winter but they would might not want to eat out as much in the summer if you're testing it in the summer you may not get a very good read for what it would actually do in the winter so you really want to be thoughtful around that window so that's the you know the process of the show. My question is in the past marketing campaigns has there ever been I guess like an idea that or a factor that you thought was a mistake or the east there are we should not have done. Where do I start. All before I got there of course no I think the challenge with. I think the challenge of the previous Arby's campaigns is it actually talked about everything other than the food it really went in tried to tell these funny cute entertaining stories. That didn't. Necessarily selling thing and I learned this I had an opportunity to Expedia to work directly for Barry Diller and I don't know if you know Barry Diller just a great entrepreneur an amazing marketer actually responsible for the Simpsons actually he was the one who's President Fox who actually took the risk and put sanctions on the first time and he told me about advertising he said The one thing to keep in mind is that advertising needs to be entertaining because you want to capture people's attention but ultimately the objective of an ad is to sell something. And you can create something that is incredibly entertaining but if people can't remember the product it doesn't sell something then it's a miserable failures and that and I think that is you know where a lot of the ads fell down I think a lot of ads fall down today fact I was reading at age. And they were talk about the most successful ad campaigns of last year and you look at it most of them you look at line it up with the company's results and you're like how could that have been a successful ad campaign the company. Sales didn't grow and so what's this I think there's still a disconnect between. The talking about the ads do you have something ready for the Super Bowl it would be nice for. You showed today for which one for the Super Bowl. No we don't. We're not I don't think you'll see us on the Super Bowl anytime soon given that. Even though maybe you know we found I don't know if we actually get any real success on social media too I think what if anything maybe we'll get some get something going on there but we're not going to put it out on. The Super Bowl shows so much money it really is. And I question whether that's really valuable in fact Go Daddy right was always the big advertiser right. There almost bankrupt so I'm not really sure that really helped them out that much. As see like how many people do you directly work with and I can you decide think what task. Yeah so I have six direct reports in there what you would think C.M.O. head of operations C.F.O. general counsel people officer and you know and I have an executive committee which is made up of of those people another couple of individuals and we meet in spend time once once a once a week going through key business issues and keeping on touch and then I do a series of one on ones with them and talk on a weekly basis and and then what I dig into does change depending on the focus so early on I was really digging into the strategy side of it then I got really focused on the marketing side of it because we had to get that right and then I've turned a lot of my attention to the service side and getting the service culture and then I've spent a ton of time on the building and I've gone back to service culture and now I'm spending a lot of time on the development side around how we actually sell more franchises and getting And so my focus will shift with what the priority focuses but I think a good learning for a C.E.O. and where to spend your time and I heard a great P.R. person speak on this and one of the biggest thing it took away from it is always think about spending your time on something where there is leverage to that activity not where there's a one to one cause an effect right so if you're spending your time. Where you're trying to say you're in a selling position right so you go out and help sell an account that's great but all you've done is help sell that account if you spent a lot of time defining it in designing and working with head of H.R. to design an incentive system right and you roll that incentive system out that has a huge impact on anybody who is touched by that incentive system right so you really should be if you spend your time on strategy right if you implement a strategy it has a big impact on the entire organization so that doesn't mean you don't go and spend time with individual counts and the accounts but it is a good way of thinking about prioritizing your time and it's really helped me think about that is spent. Time on things that the end result of that will have a multiplicative effect a multiplier effect on the entire business not just a one to one. Implication business. Yes Can you comment on. Your application to see the social media data. The importance do you see. The display of the application or the social media data already data yeah I mean it is unbelievably important so the first one of the first things that we did was put in the monitoring capability right so you can actually see any conversation that's going on about R.V.'s that obviously can be monitored and then dedicated team to that. And so we have it plugged into the process so I have team that twenty four hours a day. You know maybe a few hours in the middle of the night or sleeping but are monitoring anything going on and it's routed real time to anybody who can do something about it right so if it Chris our head of P.R. is here he knows right if it has an implication on how the brand is being perceived we're on that immediately it has a service implication it is rooted immediately to our customer service desk and then it starts and then they handle it as if a call came in and so the way I think social media to look at it is first and foremost you need to look at it as a channel of communication you know like any other channel of communication right when it comes to the customer service side of it. And so if somebody tweets about something or somebody says something up a Facebook it's we handle it no differently than if somebody picked up the phone and called or wrote a letter and we deal with it as quickly as we possibly can and we have rules around how we we deal with that. And then the other thing we do is social media that's work so far is that we don't. We use it to magnify conversations we do. Don't use it to start conversations and I think a lot of brands make mistakes to where they try to be the one to start the conversation about something and that generally comes across as you know like right where if you can see a conversation going you can magnify the threat tweets a great example so Josh Martin our social media guy was sitting at home he was actually feeding a bottle to his baby watching the Grammys because that's his role because one of the things or social media guys do is watch key events and monitor them and you know for all came up with that ridiculous looking hat and people or you know talking about it obviously on Twitter and then we and they noticed on our Facebook page that a few people were posting on our Facebook page going hey rbs what are going to do about this looks like he's still in your hat and. So he put the two and two together and sent out the tweet that said hey for Elle we want our hat back and why that worked this because it was there he saw there was already a conversation going on about it so he knew he wasn't just out there taking a complete flyer and then it was rbs coming up with some that it was stupid it was actually something that other people and it magnified that conversation right and we've taken that approach all the way through and I think that's why we've had one could argue more social media wins than any out certainly any other brand our size this year because every one of them has been magnifying a conversation of trying to start. With your company being so I'm over here your company so you know from Lights Yeah because it's one third corporate in two thirds franchise you're rolling out all these changes what are the challenges that that you kind of face with I assume are there differences in the way that you rolled out and one of the challenges that are kind of. The franchise system yeah OK. You know I've worked in Francis's and for most of my career so. I think it's important what's helped us is that we do own a third of the restaurants because we can lead from the front. Because the majority of my P. and L. comes from those own restaurants not the franchise fees so I care desperately around whether the restaurants make money and so we don't do things in the restaurants that don't make restaurants money and so therefore that aligns us a bit with with the franchisees and then also lets us prove it so the remodels we did thirty of those this year with our own money to prove the concept and we are we have all the numbers and we walk the talk and now they are able to embrace that because they see it we're very transparent about the numbers which show that the new formats I talk about we've built them first. With our own money into a flyer on it and so I think that's really really important you know Wall Street will have various attitudes around restaurant companies and what percentage franchise versus what percentage own they can be and you could debate that to your blue on the face people love to holy that one hundred percent owned by people or same Burger Kings doing a wonderful strategy they just want a hundred percent franchise and there's everything in between I think it just depends on your point in time but certainly right now trying to turn around a brand that is one hundred percent franchise is really really hard to do because you can't you can't leave from. It To. Firstly I think. About all the changes that you made doing increase the morale of the employees what did and does Did you fear the gods to demand is going to negotiate who are these ten years in a well known hunting the brand and the entire company and secondly as a SEAL What do you think is the best way to get things done and if she does wants a baby now. So first thing is I was very fortunate majority the brand management team was great there was an obstacle. An individual that I was aware was an obstacle was a very senior guy would've been a direct report of mine and he was an obstacle for a number of reasons but most importantly was a cultural obstacle. I could tell very very quickly in fact even before I started that he would not he would not be an embodiment of what we were trying to create from a culture and actually be an impediment and so I took a very quick and decisive move and let him go within two weeks of my arrival C.E.O.. And sent a very strong signal to. You know the entire system that this is not the way that we were going to do things that I listened to feedback from everywhere about this individual and said I'm not going to sit around spending a lot of time on this were done and there were a couple of other people that work for that individual that had that same kind of issue Done done done and clear that out very quickly and you know because you have to take a decisive move because if they the people are looking for a key leader particular C.E.O. is is. Basically hypocrisy on this is is you say one thing you don't do it right or you say this culture things that important but you let this guy continue to act and behave that way so I sent that signal the rest of the team was completely aligned around it in the great thing about the company is the culture was built a lot on the foundations that were already there so so it was a little bit of an embracing it and people really it was actually not that hard the way you cascade that through as you get the buy in of your senior team in the next one down in down. So. Then on the C.E.O. question how I manage sorry I've got to go on the culture thing and get excited about this guy go. Yeah it starts with a clear vision and then I have a set of strategic priorities with it didn't go through and then said it. Initiatives behind each one of those strategic priorities and then so every we actually go through a killer goals cascading process and so every single person in the company starting with me and then my direct all the way down to the very front line individuals have all of their objectives line up to our overall strategic priorities and so it starts with having your senior team feel like they own those and be part of that and driving through and then you drive you know you create that real clarity around that but the goals cascading processes are really important. And so on I have kind of an odd P.R. question what's John Stewart in The Daily Show forgive the pun with Arby's I mean you see the yeah it is negative or at least it keeps the name guys Jon Stewart picks on us right now I mean you know I will say before I go into that the David Letterman loves us and Jimmy Fallon loves us. Jimmy Fallon last night said something incredibly important positive about us right there talk about Forbes I think listed hundred through that innovations of two thousand and fourteen in the meat mountain which I didn't spend time on was one of them and Jimmy Fallon said no it's not one of them is the most the best food innovation of two thousand and fourteen. You know it's funny Jon Stewart does make fun of us I think he does it for a couple of reasons one. We are still a bit of a metaphor for war middle America. Brand and and and he likes to pick on middle America and all definitions of the word Middle America and so and and and and Arby's too was you know a bit of a punching bag for good reason and so there is that we have from a P.R. standpoint. Cater to him and I in fact we've catered his crew a couple of times right. But at least four times we send and then actually his crew will treat and say this is great we love our babies to the point where recently when he you know bad mouses he says I don't know why I'm doing the. Because they're really nice guys and you know we saying that because we are nice guys and we feed them we would actually stop feeding him because I think that if we had become positive reinforcement you know why but every time he said something bad they got a free lunch and so we decided let's stop giving them so but you know why it's part of the conversation and it's real between you and me it will become useful at a certain point in time. And. You know there will be a point in time that his that we will use this to our advantage but you know like I said we don't force things we're patient sit and wait. In the meantime sales are looking like that so you know they can talk about us all he wants to as long as cells are looking like that but you know. So as a successful C.E.O. yourself what do you think is the most important now she beautiful a good leader like absolutely the most important one. I I actually think. It's a hard one and I had to pick one where I'd say empathy. Because you know in empathy and all were well always at that because what you have to do is get people excited Well first you have to empathize with their customers you have to understand what they're trying to do and if you really understand what their core behaviors what motivates their behaviors and I think therefore understanding them and empathizing with them gets you to a point of understanding where you should be going but ultimately what you do you need to get a lot of people aligned and moving and motivated and going in a certain way in the best way to do that is actually again understand why you think you know why are they there right people work ultimately for themselves and I I mean they don't work for a company they're there for themselves right you have your own personal set of objectives and so if you're a leader you kind of understanding that and understanding why and trying to tap into that and. In you know is I think a very useful skill set and I do think that the amount of time I spent working companies I was a head of a. I was a direct report of a C.E.O. for two different companies for you know acumen of eight years for example I think it's helped me empathize for what it's like to be a division head of any company and I think that's help me manage them a bit better too because I understand the trials and tribulations that they're going through but I don't know I mean I think if I had one word that would be it. I'm the last question for today many of the students have entrepreneurial mindset and are building entrepreneurial capacity and capabilities they want to own their own businesses is a franchise with R.B.S. or a geographic location to you develop a series of restaurants a viable entrepreneurial strategy for students and what is the process by which one would appear to be franchising is a great you know to be a franchisee of anything I'm not going to do an Arby's commercial but to be a franchisee of anything is if you like to be in business for yourself. And but at the same time also like to have the support structure of a broader organization that's a great thing in fact if you talk to franchisees of any Weatherby Hilton or whether it be Arby's it's a bunch of entrepreneurs going I mean they are really you know have that same drive and entrepreneurial spirit that any one of you would actually you know feel tap into I think the downside of being a franchisee of any brand is you do have rules and there are boundaries right so if you're the kind of individuals I want to be in business myself because I want to do whatever the heck I want to do and I'm into inventing new things and doing things new ways then being a franchise is probably not the right thing for you while you run your own business you do have to do it a certain way and you do have to adhere to certain rules so I feel. That you need to think through that but there are a lot of people that have that entrepreneurial I want to start and run my own business and being control but I don't actually want to have to go through the creative process and come up with a new idea and do it all by myself so it's a mixture. Thank you very much for coming Polly greatly appreciate it thanks.