Our our our next session as you can tell from your program is about some innovations and transport and way have replaced them with this afternoon or in the daily process that in their work situations of looking at these developing ideas and what's out there and what's coming and so we ask them to come to the day and share with you some of the things that they're doing very thinking about. That will help us broaden our horizons a little bit in terms of our own thinking about what may be possible in the future. The three people or Rick Rich. Mary director of business development and Siemens micro One director of advanced customer technology Duke Energy and just your work. How about the electric vehicle infrastructure commercial so you are at G.E. Energy. You can't read more about their background than what they do or how they prefer to be addressed in your and your program but I won't take up their time and doing that and they will speak to you in the in the order that I introduced them and we did with the last panel might have finished rule in or to your question. Well this presentation comes up I just want to go back to the some of the discussion at the tail end of the previous panel. We were talking about primarily high speed rail challenges that high speed rail facing in a regulatory environment perspective and a mayor's comment on that but I want to share. There are a lot of bright spots in the southeast region. If you look just to the north into North Carolina. You know there are there are hurting high speed investments to use existing freight rail right of way in conjunction with the freight is really dancing passenger rail in that state and it's just one model of being able to implement a solution. If you looked into our self into Florida Florida stating a very different approach florist looking between Tampa and Orlando as an investment where you really feel so they're looking at starting from a blank sheet of paper. That's the neighbors to discuss and they're looking to implement transcends train technology that's capable of greater than two hundred miles per hour so you know there's two different models right here just to our north and just to yourself. It certainly should be looked at as examples of different ways this can be done. The other bright spot certainly right here in our backyard here is the city of Atlanta at lower speeds than a street car network but much critical piece of the transportation puzzle because that less. Mile is really the ruler. For much of the high speed evolution. You know we need to have the mobility within the city center high speed gets you from city to city so that once you're in that city you've chosen relative primary mode of transportation. There is that next leg and next leg and I'll have no zero point one one final comment that I want to make previously as well as in the discussion is this whole concept of the train technology in absence of the regulatory environment seeming to build strength as a manufacturer trains around the world look to you really sheer investment in research and development on specific trains that technology X. Mas value to our customers the United States high speed is an emerging merging market in the rest of the world high speed is business as usual. So two hundred mph train sets are being built. You're all more or been built by Siemens every day we have over two hundred high speed trains that are World War to live or countries like China Russia Spain Germany all these countries and what the lesson from Europe can be learned in that at the boundary of each country in the early ninety's when high speed rail was involved. There was different technology so Siemens train that got to the border between Germany and Switzerland would not necessarily be able to operate. That was not due to track meet or anything. The standard electrification system wasn't so what we did as a worldwide supplier trainset technologies we built trains that for different. Electrification systems on or off systems are more. Well you can imagine that this was costly. There was a lot of engineering bar and there was the weight issue. You know vision of high speed rail just like with trains a very very very quick and I got all this technology just because of regulatory environment really set the technology back to what Europe did the car the countries got together and it created a standard specification T.S.I. and what that's best for cation says it sets the the regulatory environment from a technology perspective across all of Europe and so now the train starts its trip and spends an ingenue into other countries across borders and that's all I think there's a lesson to be learned there especially as forever ministration running the junction with the state of all the high speed programs in the United States that we don't have to rely on those lessons here for STATE reaches the border of Georgia and with the North Carolina. That would be a travesty of those characters to the whole New York region. So those are just a couple of things I was looking to share so to kick this off by looking at this from from what makes this environment now so critical and really it's the need to do more good more people are getting you know around the region and some of the some of the main pillars of causing this is where we live in new trends and that has to do with the growing population world wide and often we're getting older with advances in science and medicine we're living longer and that's actually burdening the call. Elation in the city centers. We also see a trend or arena zation So more and more of the world's population is living in cities and their definition of cities is growing the borders of both rise the city is growing but that puts an undue burden on the higher the structure network or the water or transportation and then there's the whole globalization in the world economy and the challenges that faces different regions and finally of course is the responsible use of responsible protection of our resources and the reduction of C O two emissions that primarily in many cases come from French transportation clearly transportation alone belief is what makes the city livable and it really drives the economic growth within the city or the mega region and also as I mentioned is the primary user of greenhouse gases. But this is not unique issue for the United States. So a study was conducted and we looked at the entire piece these regions in these countries across the world and you can see that throughout the world the growth in population and the yearly growth of free trade places when the need to move goods is growing in terms and by these two colleagues here so it's a it's a global issue. So really the challenge becomes how we define mobility solutions that benefit everyone and is even feasible to do so. I mean shall. And he is this really to do this in to Bill solutions that do this in a in a very efficient safe manner and address the needs to move those people and goods from where they need to go across the region. So how do we do this and answer within Siemens in the we're approaching the world wide issue is what we call complete mobility and what this is it looks to be the most cost efficient and effective measures and solutions to specifically address this growth in this demand and the key goals here are to officially utilize all those of transportation. It's not one Transportation Alternatives the expense of another but it's really I mean evil all of these transportation modes for the purpose and for the choice of the actual individual or the company that's trying to move their goods and services rail one aspect or below certainly critical airplane and container ship transport is critical and we do this through a couple of different ways to do this. Both with technologies specific to each mode of transportation but also through my team for sure. And now for the government networks. So I just think just a a brief overview of the to try to help visualize this within the Siemens portfolio we dress each of these different modes and that could be in the passenger goods transport with the rolling stock the vision rebuild trains the Traffic Management where we develop freeway traffic management solutions to operate the road network very efficient airport logistics and helping. To automate airports to move to to have that entire network operate efficiently the railroad infrastructure train signalling control how we use the listing that's been really worth more efficient manner and post automation how do we move our male scene and actually has automated systems using now working with the post automation division that process ninety percent of U.S. mail. So the key concept of complete mobility is really creating a systematic interlinked mobility solution and then a really focuses on the need for here it is so first it's the it's the metros in the cities and the urban or out of people within the urban or the next is how do we internet the cities across the region certainly important is the movement of infrastructure and the infrastructure supporting the movement of goods and lastly how to do this in the energy efficient. So I just want to reach one of these one by one. So we'll start with the cities. So in the cities really we look at two primary technologies to address the needs of the city the first is is like rail street car combination and really this gives you that last mile connectivity to your destination and you create an attractive development longitudinally within the sector. So I like inner city rail where you belong in a more spot around a station in an area. Well this is with streetcar networks you actually develop in higher order. So the value capture of that type of development is very. I think that they get it also enhanced as transit oriented development and livable cities concept. So the picture of the top. I think is the best example. So this is for women and it really shows here within this picture all of the various modes that the city residents can choose to use whether that be will whether that's by walking by by by their automobiles and the street car which really creates a really nice free skate and the instead it's what Portland Oregon was able to do was quite nice is they actually hit many of the features and evil a technology so the overhead cabinetry system is built into the tree scheme. So you really don't even see much of that work and it just creates this really vibrant feel if anyone happened before and I definitely recommend this a wonderful city to visit between the library and street car network. It's just a wonderful experience and the nightlife and a vibrant see as well. The other thing that's there. That was done very well the planners important is they looked at the order of development and as they planned the network. They actually increased the take the value area by having parallels three or segments so when you look at walking from the street car or drops it was to your destination your actual walking distances reduced because you know also it was three blocks away parallel street right now. I think one of the most important things as a rolling stock manufacturer is is the statics of the vehicle and this is critical to customers. So this is a real opportunity when you. Combs to merge in high speed is to street car and comes to life right. And I think it was mentioned earlier the discussion about the public may or may not recognize these different poses. I think the rally thing and oftentimes the break. I think of the locomotive pulling a couple of a mile long train or they think of a commuter line. So by level couple by level coaches enfold by every one of the motor so customer acceptance usability of a modern street car is really one of those things that until the public sees it. They really don't. May not have an appreciation for what we're talking about we're talking about a street car. You know where they should streetcar So some people also think about the heritage of the street cars that operated in the world for example we heard street. So the march street car and this is this is a picture of the scenes at seventy street cars and we work with our engineers in second medical for you as well as the B.M.W. design group to come up with a real a static look on the exterior sleeve also a blow for boarding critical when it comes to the streetcar because you want to have four sections so it's at current level and you step right into the pivot without having to go up steps. That's very very important for quick on quick off type service that you've seen a street car and again this is taking the car service proven platform that's been used by cities like Charlotte Salt Lake San Diego Houston and others and would really created. You know that we have to look out and this one here are right down the in terms of ocean systems and you know what we've changed is the exterior and the rock. And if we move to how we connect the cities. So with high speed rail and stuff overshadow all other forms of transportation at the moment because of the huge investment of money that the steel T. has to really share a high speed rail for us to cross the nation. Siemens work with the U.S. Conference of Mayors to support an economic study that what are the benefits and we look at the study group look at four specific areas. Look at L.A. Chicago Orlando and Albany New York and wanted to capture what would each metro area to realize by you commenting high speed rail and the key findings for each of those cities is shown up here. So primarily it was it was new jobs. It was job creation in the construction period and they were significant if you look at Orlando. They're looking at the free years of construction. They're talking about in the neighborhood of fifteen to I'm sorry. Betty to ten thousand jobs just in structure period. That's three years of construction here and your job then when you look at the direct jobs associated with maintaining it's affording the operations of the high speed system and the number of jobs increases dramatically and then there's the indirect there's the indirect organic growth that happens all around the high speed rail line and that leads to new business sales the gross domestic product improvements and of course associated wages. So I have a have a clip here that all. It will help your hear from each of the four mayors in how the feet is transforming New York tonight Hebrew national treasure with the most votes but more are on the stage during this mayor we see live every day like to work out why we're there and see the city and stop the crowd were there for a good show. Just from our list if you want to know what other Bush the first person people get out of the basketball and i Pad What trading Severus or better will be for the cells at speeds over one hundred miles an hour or more if you stuff the motor for building a new system a high speed rail will be faster to keep users going the more everybody is reading the article he says everybody stands a better deal for bit like cars here that you shall foresee that I'll never get around back to our high school on job creation on the number of jobs created just one day from Los Angeles to talk jobs to his oldest daughter to the bar for the means of transportation using just the door from the road we're losing jobs more though I think really it's a lot of water bottles that were. You know sold over the was you know had the worst of this in this bill thought it was major populations with water. We're very interested grading I. What's more it's around the world. What we're seeing of course our home our No one is born more or less to get a picture from really sure what I'd really like these different cities and what's always interesting listening to the mayors of the different expectations. What their specific measures area whether it's whether it's the creation of the medical centers in their community. They all see the benefit and of course addressing the ingestion in mobility within the city of but it's just something that while they are from Albany we planned this we study this it's time to move and that's really where this country stands right now as we look at planning studies going back to Florida for a Laura plan their high speed rail network high speed rail right there. I think the mayor earlier said took thirty years to build the Interstate System large planning thirty years ahead to shots that it tried to implement the first time through public really a public funded effort. It was killed by the governor and it did not move forward. The second time around when we were in a traditional private way of where of the private enterprise really going to take much of the risk and actually build the system that also failed because all street said there wasn't enough there to one best and here we are again and what's different now but. Wasn't there is a move on the U.S. the of T. to set the vision he said this is an emerging market. This will happen in the United States as you heard Mr ation talk about Florida being to take advantage of the fact that they didn't plan for thirty years. So what they were able to do is when the money was available from the U.S. to go to it was time to submit their applications. What they had is they had a job already been through the environmental clearance process for all of you where our long it takes to plan a transportation program and they were able to demonstrate that number one environmental triply or number to be right away was preserved for thirty years. So this train is going to run interstate for me. All of that each time they expanded the roadway each time the end of the lane interstate for no matter what Florida D.O.T. said we're going to reserve that driveway. One day to speed rail cars on the floor. So the set of vision. They continue to perseverance continue to crack at it till this happens and all the sudden there is an investment and there's a vision. I think the story presentation in the previous panel off a lot of the political scene here we are again are about to go to implementation in Florida and there's a new governor and that governor may or may not or I just believe where he wants to study it. Governor like he wants to study it and he wants to make sure that there's a business motivation for him for investing this money in high speed rail in Tampa. So eventually is a good idea. We don't know but there's certainly a lot of hopes and the most dramatic point of all of this is when you look at the program Florida will be the benchmark Florida will set the stage for what I see. Well is America because it is the only project that's ready to go to implement station in the United States with train sets and train technology for the two hundred miles for now if we want it is the next best but it's such a vast area and there are so much that they're doing from an environmental standpoint that it may or may not proceed. So we're watching this and as as the video talked about we're building trains in the United States. Now depending on where the actual Federal Railroad Administration comes in terms of what is the technology. What is the technology that the road ministration Lashley while for the year to operate on this line. Well that's going to dictate number of manufacturers that pursue this work out how they can localize that factory. If you just just one of the coming out of the top two hundred train sets but we don't know whether or have to live or you know high speed. The rioting. Well what we're talking about in terms of the order of magnitude Florida is five trains. So how do you make a business decision to localize high speed rail production in the United States in order trends California there's no promise of California. There's another line in Florida to go to Miami. So these are things that the business community is is really grappling with how do we how do we make this investment before with this public private partnership which is the delivery model for this project at the same time there's a lot of uncertainty. So the other area of focus on is is infrastructure and logistics and here's where we start to talk about freight movement and the compatibility between freight and passenger service. So really really there are enabling technologies that come that come about in order to allow Actually the service to co-exist on freight network and also to more efficiently manage the existing network. Whether that be a Metro like Marta or a traditional C.S. ex freight rail line and these two technologies are communication based trying to troll and positive trend trouble so any communication based training control this is a overall solution that really changes the way people think about how we manage our around that in a traditional signaling environment. There are the wayside signals that everyone sees the operator looks sad he determines whether or not he can actually operate his train to a certain area that area's called a fixed law. So he the motor will actually get. Durance into that fixed block it does not matter that six o'clock is a fixed light that would imply a new appliance Well that will remain operate saturating at six o'clock and he operates that he has that clearance and know the train them to that clock while he's in it. Whether he's operating at ten mph and takes a long time to get to the other end of it was offering a seventy mph It makes no difference. The guy runs going to get a red pill the players without So you really start to see a separation of trains where there's a capacity. Well what C.V.T. supervise is what's called a moving lot. So now multiple trains can enter that same physical real state of the track and they operate in such a way that they know the system knows the performance characteristics of both of those trains knows how much legs it needs to stop at the speed of authorized to go and it matches that are automatic train operation. So what you really need here is C.T.C. Abel's us to manage your existing infrastructure in a much more efficient manner you can look at either maximizing amount of passengers the system can use by really acting trains then maintaining that physical separation. That's needed or to look at more energy use and it will actually slow a train down before it gets to that time so that way it maximizes minimize the amount of exhilaration you do as it nears the next station the other technology is positive train control so positive train control is actually rational and this is part of the federal regulatory uncertainty that I was mentioning. So we're ever the freight railroad is going to operate passenger service and into the Atlantic what they now have to do is. You know we have to implement positive train control twenty fifty and this is the way in which the freight trains and the passenger trains operate on the same road that we're safe and implementing the rules for what we talk about this technology not yet written so we are looking at positive train control and several other manufacturers are looking at positive train control and we're developing what how we intend to meet that mandate by twenty fifteen. But at the same time. Right. We don't quite know what the best patient will ultimately be so there is the entire real mystery the freight operators see this is a bit of a burden. We talked about you know they needed something some platforms might have a reluctance to open up their own capital service with passenger train the whole level of oversight didn't exist all around the first operation and this is critical because there are for profit business and if you consider these things. So when you look at the positive train control mandate where they don't have signals on their line and everyone. Some of you may have seen the movie ensembles years for the train running loose along the line P.T.C. is one measure. You know where that Arenas and trolling for a very rare. Right now can operate without signals and they provide. It's called a movement authority in the motor is told. You can go from Mile Post A to mile post be great at thirty mph and you know and he knows this dispatch told me is your only train that's saying go until he gets that mile or so these are just two examples of signalling technology and then of course there is. There's going to G. efficiency and a couple of technologies that are better are utilizing the modern trend said is the whole concept of rejecting her for the electrical electric train and solar arrays there was a power from the grid and use it to drive the motors and propulsion system but one naturally breaks with electric braking actually lets that in let's that works out or just be lost so they drain manufacturers now let's go regenerative braking where on board or back to the grid we save that energy and use it for other trains in the same segment that are suffering so they saw a train is breaking it feeds the power back into the grid the other train in that same general said he draws from no power and does not pull from power grid it is basically using the wasted power that would have been with the other train the other concept is that actually store the hour or so this is interesting because this opens up an entire new type of Streetcar potential one that is possible to our E. train for a limited distance without a recap. So there are some very and very there are some just three states that did not want to see catenary there were some streets caves because of the geometry of the alignment and clearance with maybe overpass that you cannot you know have no room to have a great catenary or if you're crossing one street or with a freight railroad. Sort of river early life come across so these are old technology this technology of storing energy on board the train. Lets you run for about a mile and store it out till it's if it's a this is really a scene changer in terms of how we power trains. Right now there's only a couple of implementations around the world. We're doing a full implementation and listening. Of course we manufacture trains and we do with an environmentally responsible way. So if you look at the Valar which is our high speed trains that about ninety eight percent of that train set can be recycled at the end of its useful life. So this is this is credible because it's obviously a sustainable transportation move but it also limits the impact of that over the life of the train and then finally I think it's important to recognize that that we only build trains that are environmentally fission but we also do it in a responsible manner. That's our goal in Sacramento California. It's twenty five acres of property. We have the solar panel on the final assembly building and also on the parking lot that generates forty percent of the energy for the plants these were actually using our sun to build trains and to do it and in effect we see you can readily see it. Thank you.