That's a story. Our viewers where you are what you're this is not for the poor man very you know that he is a really excellent black or actually we was actually brought back recently in France but you know that was thank you very much to Mark plant. And thanks for the invite to come and speak to it's been a great day visiting Georgia Tech my first time here and it really is a wonderful campus of The Great to speak to a number of you. So I want to tell you today about the work we've been doing over the past few years on black holes and Black Hole spin and this is going to be largely an observational talk and no there'll be some some more theoretical topics we have to touch on at the beginning so that you become convinced I'm actually doing something meaningful to me because I don't that's a good pointer. OK let me begin by just outlining my collaborators this list of collaborators Also I want to flag in particular and loafing is my current graduate student who has done quite a bit of the work I'll be showing you also Laura Brennaman is my former grad student history is now at the harvest Missoni in Center for Astrophysics. She's also been very important in a lot of the work I'll be talking about so I'll start off by telling you about black hole spin and you know why we should care about black hole spin you know white white and why we should care about black holes much we care about black holes spin and then I want to start telling you about the theoretical basis for measurements of black hole space you know black holes are perfect spherical black objects so they actually can be quite challenging to the Tech where the one of them is spinning or not and I want to tell you about how we go about actually trying to detect that spin. And then I'll actually show you the results we have and in particular I'm going to show you case studies from a big project that we've been executing this is awkward here in Spin survey and I'll wrap up with you know putting things together and try and tell you some of the actual physical implications of the results that we have to date. So why should we care about black hole spin. Well we can answer that both as physicists and also after the system. So as as physicists black holes are one of the ultimate means for studying strong field gravity for studying gravitational fields in the very very strong and that we have no hair theorem or generative A-T. no health or a general to it. He tells us that a black hole especially a black hole is isolated by itself in the middle of. Of space is completely described by just three numbers they got a mass a charge in the spin. And basically these are just the three quantities that you know macroscopic we conserved as the collapsing object is forming as a black hole. Now physically we believe that charge is irrelevant because if you if we were to somehow form a very strongly charged black hole. All that in any realistic ash physical environment is plasma around and would very quickly pull opposite charges out of the surroundings and will discharge the black hole. So in practice we believe the ash visible black holes are described just by their mass and by their spin and the mathematical description of. Of that space time is the is the Kermit trick. So I'm talking about isolated black holes right now this there's a lot of fabulous work done here for example on merging black holes and in the history of merging black holes the space time can get much more interesting and become very dynamic all. And it's not described by the current metric of these isolated black holes the curve metrics that ascription. So if we want to actually use black holes as a laborious these isolated black holes as a laboratory for studying strong field gravity. Then the most direct way of doing this is we find a black hole we measure its mass we measure its spin. And if G.R. is correct. We now know everything about that black hole in your predict the motion of particles around they're all pretty color caught other quantities and we can compare that to the observations and look at the relations from. From G.R. So that's the sort of the physicist answer of why we care about black hole spin actually physically and I'm Asheville's this. This thing excites me most as to physically. Black Hole spin is important for a couple of distinct reasons one is a black holes are black holes spin is a potentially very important source of energy. And in we have these systems here. This is a picture of the radio galaxy and maybe seven this is a radio picture of a nearby galaxy and at the center of the galaxy which is there. We have we believe a six billion solar mass black hole and it's generating a pair of jets. And we see those jets principly in the radio but in fact in this object we see them across the. All it might expect from and those jets are inflating in this object they get the Jets propagate out several killer past six. So maybe about ten thousand light years before inflating this giant low. We only see one jets because we see the approaching jet because relativistic beaming roast aberration. We believe there is actually an object going the other way which we don't see because the radiation is being beamed away from us what powers these jets the huge amount of energy coming out of these jets and in fact a whole other talk I could give is what we believe is enough energy coming out of these jets to actually impact the evolution of the galaxy by many ways who believe the galaxies the evolution of galaxies such as early as seven are actually truncated actually controlled by that black hole. So there's a huge wave energy coming out here. What I mean Joyce is that jets that jets one of the basic ideas. That's in play today is that that jet is powered by black hospital. So black or spin is important for systems such as this one way to quantify these jetted a these jetted black holes I just to show you example of is in this kind of plot I show you now I'm going to show it later on. As well. So we can plot for example the accretion rates going down into the black hole just a measure of how much material is falling in and we put it in dimensionless units with the ratio it to the so-called Edington rate. And we can plot that against a radio loudness which is operationally is the radio live not see of the of the system divided by in this case the optical luminosity the system. But it's a measure of how much power is coming out in those jets and we find that. The things since massive black holes are talking about divide into two general categories as two tracks on this plot here and it's been a long stand. Question Why are there these two classes of of active galaxies the two classes of A.G.M.. And one of the standard ideas the so-called spinning paradigm is that these objects are rapidly spinning black holes these objects are slogan black holes that nature produces slowly spinning and rapidly spinning black holes and that dictates what you have one of these powerful radio sources with strong jets or when you don't have. The final reason why Black Hostin is interesting is that spin is a fossil record of how the black hole formed. And black hole formation is is an issue of greatest risk when first in particular. Again if we look at super massive black holes in the centers of galaxies. It's a profound mystery is how those black holes got there. Their One possibility is that back in the early universe there were you know wholesale collapse of of saying hundred thousand solar masses of gas that form the black hole. It could have been formed from early generations of stars it's a family history as to how those because what they are and then how they for how they grew so the spin rate of black holes today is a is a fossil record of how the black hole actually grew. It records where the black hole grew in. Sort of monolithic accretion events where you took. A large scale accretion disk and let it feed into the black hole that was spinning up or whether the black hole forms through your randomly align mergers that would lead to a slow spinning like hole so black or spinning is a is a record of that. And just to show your plot from mater voluntary and collaborators that illustrates this we see in this calculation. The spin distribution of black holes so these are histogram showing the spin rate of a model population of black holes. Versus different assumptions for how the black holes group. So in the picture where. Today's black hole's group purely through mergers of small black holes created early times versus a picture where accretion from immigration desks was an important source of growth and you see that in the creation picture you end up with a population very rapidly spinning black holes. Whereas in the merger picture not much more modestly spinning black holes. Now just to orient you and many of you know this already but on this plot. I put this you're a parameter this and I told you this is the spin of the black hole. What actually is this quantity. It's this so. This is a so-called dimension the spin parameter the black hole. J is the actual angular momentum of the black hole and all we've done here is taken the anger meant when the black hole and put it in the obvious to mention the seen it is. And it involves dividing it by two powers of the Massey Energy in and multiplying by C. And G R tells us that for this to be an honest to goodness black hole meaning it must have been horizon has been promised must be between minus one and one. OK so that's why we should care about black holes spin. How do we actually go about measuring the black hole spent. So this is a just a fairly old movie now just to give you a vision impression of what a creating a black hole might look like if you could actually sort of sit near it and and look at what you're seeing here is the turbulence accretion disk that orbiting around the black hole. And of course there's a black hole in the middle here. But the important thing to recognize in this. In this simulation isn't what you see is a black hole here is not actually the black hole the black hole is a rather small object sits inside of here. What you're seeing here. Is the point where the Creation desk stops all butting in a dissipative manner and then just conservatively plunges into the black hole you're seeing a transition increase in this where you commission this goes dark and then just plunges conservatively into the black hole that location is called the innermost table circular orbit and is just the point where G.R. predicts that circular orbits become unstable no Newtonian gravity any circular orbit is stable you perturb it a little bit and you just have a slight perturb circular orbit. In G.R. within this critical radius. If you perturb a circular orbit. Then the party will just spiral into the black hole. So you know why and why does. Why does this matter. Well it turns out that when going straight directly from the Kermit trick the location of this in a stable circular orbit is a function of black hole spin. And this is not a paper by. By James by Dean from seventy two. And this shows you how the location of the Isco changes as a front so this is the spin which is shows you that for the non-spinning black holes it's a six gravitational radial six and to use. Relativists technology and as you spin up to maximally spinning black holes. It goes down to one M.. That's four pro-grade. Orbits. If a particle is going retrogrades to the direction of the black hole then in fact this is code is bigger and for regulate orbits it moves outwards to about nine and. Four for activities in Michael's. So if we can attach some observables to this Isco the fact that disco depends upon spin gives us away we can actually go after the black hole spin. Observationally. And so we make this Isco conjecture that the flow proper. The creation of this undergo this distinct change as the creation disk flows across the Isco in this basic conjecture is very fried by the simulations accretion disk and if that's true. This transition will actually leave imprints on the observables it will increase the efficiency of the creation desk because you're now getting deeper into the potential before the material plunges into the black hole the characteristic gravitational redshift of all of the signatures of all the spectral Simpsons of the creation this will be increased because you now close the black hole because you're getting more energy out the temperature of the creationist could be higher. And if you can measure any temporal frequencies we sampled the orbital frequency of that in a rage that would be higher. So all these things are in principle observables the observable I'm going to use is attached to gravitational Richard. So that's the sort of the basis of how we're going to do this. So now we need some spectral signatures that we can try to attach to it so that in a stable circular orbit and here's where just your nature has been kind to us. So if we look at one of the super massive black holes in a nearby galaxy. We find purely Imperatori that it's a very strong X. ray source X. rays pouring out of the system matters. But in fact on the first glance such a hard thing to understand because if we just make a model of the accretion disk around a black hole and with some very robust and simple assumptions we can calculate the temperature of that creation Discman turns out to be something about one hundred thousand kelvin. And that's a new resource. That's not an X. ray source. So when the X. rays come from. This is where we have to weigh the hands of the whole bit and say well you know just as in the case of the Sun The Sun is also next resource even though it's only six thousand cal the black body. Those X. rays come from a Corona and they come from this energized a million degree gas that surrounds the sun which is heated magnetically. And radiates thermally in the X. rays. So somewhere in our system there is enter there is this highly energized gas or at least as high enjoys electrons which we generically refer to as a Corona. And the other is just represented by this cloud here and it's presumably heated magnetically because creation disk is fundamentally Might it. Objects and is cooled not thermally but is a pool from inverse compromise ocean where it was Constance cattery of photons through it so this is where the X. rays come from the X. rays come from this extended structure that's not the accretion disk is associated The question is not the Krishnas and you know roughly half the X. rays are produced come straight up and we observe them because we're up here and half of them shine back down on the crease in this and all for rest the accretion disk failure they flash the creation disk with with with X. rays and when you take relatively cold matter and to an X. ray astronomer from his have walked impressions of temperature a case of one hundred thousand kelvin is cold to others so when you have hundred thousand held in gas and your flash it with with hard X. rays. There's a lot of almost neutral elements or not. Lowly ionized elements in that gas that will be excited in the caress you'll get Compton scattering their clothes off so you get the spectrum that you get shining back off the Krishnas called the reflection spectrum. Using some reflection poorly. So it's reflection spectrum that comes off the. Of the accretion disk. And because it's in the very sensual regions of this black hole accretion desk. We don't see the reflection spectrum as a. Comes off in the rest frame we see it once is being strongly affected by Doppler shift in and by the gravitational Ridge shipping with ember that's really a thing. Rafter So this blue spectrum here this blue model Spectrum shows just this reflection spectrum here can volved with the expected Doppler shift some gravitational red shifts for a typical system and in particular what you want to focus on is in there in the a reflective spectrum. There's actually a very powerful emission line. That's almost isolated by itself here and it's in a very convenient part of the spectrum is a six six and a half. Kaley. Which is just a place where we have plenty of X. for telescopes working. So this is the iron through essence line. This is the threatens line of. Of I in the case of present line and because it's relatively isolated it produces a nice broad feature in the spectrum that we can try to. Try to look for. OK So operationally what we do well and we're going to try to take real data and model pull these effects and. And try to destroy the black hole spin so what we do is this is a so humoristic cartoon of what an A.T.M. inspection would look like one of these active galaxies spectrums would look like all the way from you know some infrared band optical infrared band up to hard exercise and what we see is a big bump here which is just the black body like Thurman emission from the creation disk and then we see this inverse comet and scattered reduced emissions concentration tile the comes from this Corona. And this is the classical X. ray band. Here. So if we just zoom in on that classical X. ray band The important thing of this is a the underlying X. ray continuum is pretty much you. Early A power is pretty close to a power law. So it's the operational that's often how we model it. So what we're going to do is we're going to take real data and then we're going to model it. Assuming this kind of continuum this continent ocean continuum whatever we look outside our galaxy we have to put the effects of lighting absorption in we're looking through some column of gas out of our galaxy. We usually find these active galaxies is actually. Absorption close to the black hole itself accretion disk have winds for example that are often looking through they have the use of photon eyes wins. So we have to put that in. And then we have to put in the effects of this extra reflection I was talking about. And we often find that almost always find that there's a reflection component from a material that's a long way from the black hole. Those of you who know about active galaxies know there's a whole phenomenology about how active galaxies look different. If you're looking at different angles. Because we think that there are for example toroid of cold gas surrounding surrounding the black hole. And that Taurus will get through. S.. Just like anything else. So we often find example a sharp narrow emission line of the spectrum that comes from that and then what we want to do is to put in the accretion disk component which is this blue piece and we have to broaden it. OK so the name of the game for what I'll be showing you is going to be taking the best quality A.G.N. spectral we can best quality guy special we can and decomposing it into these pieces and we're ultimately after doing is studying this blue piece and trying to pull out of that in this case the black hole space but you know we can. We can study many things from it. This is just the sort of drive home the point that what we're after doing here is looking at how strong. These broadening affects our know how how strongly do I have to broaden this blue piece to fit the data. And what we've done here is just get a particular mission line just focusing on the particular mission line and make models of that mission line profile as a functional black hole spins to show that as you go to more rapidly spinning black holes. You're just drawing this tile out on the on the emission line these missionize have this characteristic skewed shape and this is what you get if you have if you're looking at a disk or intermediate inclination and you're putting in the combined effects of Doppler shifts and gravitational red shifts you get this very characteristic shape here. OK So let me show you some real data showing some real data after after all that this is just showing you that you actually see these kind of broadened skewed line profiles when you look at a host of relativistic systems. So this is an example of a super massive black hole. This is one of these active galaxies I'm talking about and this is the line profile you see. This is the example for a stellar mass black hole from a work by by John Miller and then this is the case for the neutron stars you also see these features a neutron stars to. The lines are narrow in neutron stars because the potential is not as deep as around the black hole. OK And then I think the very recently this new star which is a brand new hard experience there actually also saw the same effect. This is a hump and they were galaxy on here. This is an active galaxy N.G.C. thirteen sixty five and there. There is our broad line profile. You also see this big hump here in the spectrum. And just to show you. That's this hump here. Which is just Compton scattered X. rays of beans reflected off the. Of the disk. OK so that's now start talking about black hole spin. And the situation if you go back five years or so is that there was a specially one galaxy with good enough data we could actually really chase after the suspects in this galaxy was M.C.G. Maya six to the fifteen now this is a remarkable object you know many of us who have been in this field have cut our teeth on this object I mean David has in the past and so on. I have but it is just one object. And the. This is the first object where these broad lines were discovered with the Aska satellites back in ninety five. This this is this what the discovery what here. It was looked at intensively by the X. and M. satellites the European exercise light and by this is awkward satellite which is the current Japanese are like and again we can characterize these features and this was the first object where we really felt we could implement this sort of scheme that I just laid out about trying to systematically decompose all the pieces of the spectrum and go after a black hole spins so Laura better than I tried this in in two thousand and six and we came up with a very rapid spin for this object a very rapidly spinning object spinning greater than point nine eight. Now this is the formal result strickly assuming that the disk truncates Appius go for stocks rapidly spinning black holes the Isco is almost right up against the horizon. OK so. That a star that formal assumption may start to go wrong finite thickness affects might become relevant in the disk example. So I think if you go through some of those arguments. This limit may reduce to about point nine to a greater than point nine two but it still rock is getting back on. So the problem was there just weren't enough objects with with high quality data so. So in in two thousand eighty S she thousand in two thousand and nine and. We proposed for a key project result with satellite and the idea was to go out and get a large quantity of data on about half a dozen more A.G.N. so we could actually go after spin in a sample of objects albeit a very small sample but still a sample of objects. So this is awkward satellite just for those of you who aren't on the top where it is the currently operating X. ray Japanese. And Japanese X. ray Observatory. It's actually a joint Japanese U.S. collaboration the U.S. provided one of the key instruments for the satellite which unfortunately failed to do so. Integration era but. But still a go since at times we operated as a joint Japanese US collaboration and the key aspect of this is arc which is crucial for this work is it has a very broad coverage of energy back of energy band it. It has high throughput spectrometers in The point five to ten K.B. range and then it has a hard X. ray detector which operates from about fifteen up to six hundred K. now if any of the sources I'm talking about we run out of photons about fifty K.V. the fancy goes up six hundred is like here and there but but still we can get from about twenty five to fifty K.B. coverage for our objects. So the idea of the key project was the target Originally we had six but in the end we got five. Nearby A.G.N. with high enough quality data we can actually go after spin in those objects. And we're pretty much just concluding that project now with as one objects Mark Herron eight for one where we've yet to actually. Fully digest the data we've digested the data for all of the or the others missed what would be so in your summit some results from. So just to show you sort of the first result from from that program. This was a nearby A.G.M. and you see thirty seven eighty three. It's in the book all of these are bright nearby active galaxies and those of those who study active galaxies these are so nearby family members that we we know and love and this will show you the features in the spectrum. If you take a spectrum and just divide it by sort of a completely familiar to each of the spectrum we just divide the spectrum by a power law. We can see the structure in the spectrum and this is what we get who is bytes taken out of spectrum here. And then we have these features here so this big bite here is the absorption I was telling your powers when we're looking at this object we're looking at the central X. ray source which is very close to the black hole. There's a lot of photo nice plasma in the way which is part of the creation disk wind. We believe and that gives you this biters the spectrum but we can model that very accurately and and take that bite out of spectrum but we also have this narrow emission line here. That's what this distance stuff that I was telling you about this is distant cold and cereal and then when we take that out you can see it's just about seeing the specialist for the inflection point in the data here. That's the onset of these. Red specifically brought in features that I'm I'm I'm discussing. So we can we can model especially in the way that I was describing. And we can start to see how the. Black Hole spin affects the goodness of fit to the data. So we actually go through. Used to a formal comparison of the model with all the. Opponents fitting freely to the to the data and we can for example plot the goodness of fit parameter the Delta Chi squared versus spin as you see in this plot. We prefer rapidly spinning black hole again. The different lines here are just for different modeling assumptions and different data handling assumptions and the most conservative one here the green one is where we just assume we don't trust anything above anything below three K.B. which throw all this out. Assuming that we don't understand anything about this absorber and you see that even then we get a weak constraint on the spin that put it as it does we can. Just showing all of us if we take a base in approach and use Monte Carlo Markov chain methods to analyze the dataset we can get a formal probability distribution for the black hole spend and this shows you the same thing that the Alice's was telling you that in this particular object your push to rapidly spinning black hole greater than about point eight eight. I think is the limit. Now we can we actually use this object as a test bed to study a lot of our systematic and I just want to show you your what we were actually looking at in the data when we take a non-spinning black hole model in a spinning black hole model. This is the best fit to the data and these are the model components here if we force in a non-spinning model force in a non-spinning spectral model we can see that we produce the residuals to the fit with this wave and this is what we're looking at fundamentally what's going on here is if you force in a non spinning black hole then these brought this broadened online feature this thing in blue is a bit too narrow and it's sort of overboard fitting the core of this line commune negative residual here and under fitting the the wing giving a pulse of residual here. So these are uses a very subtle. Effect it's a few percent. Either way which is why we need such high quality data. Let me skip over that. OK So moving on. This is another very well known object is for all nine another nearby active galaxy and this one has no absorption so that this is arguably a slightly cleaner object and again this is the spectrum ray showed against a simple power law and you see that this is again a narrow mission line from the distant material and again we see this broad line start of our four. For four and a half by the or so and we can fit this. And again this is another test case where we could look at a lot of the modeling degeneracy S. We found for example that. There were narrow emission lines Juta ionized hydrogen in the spectrum those hydrogen twenty five hundred twenty six emission lines. They were blending with the blue edge of the. Broad ion line we're looking at. So we had to try to figure out how to disentangle that. And we did that by taking multiple POCs of data and since we believe those ionized lines are coming from. An extended region. They can be assumed to be constant ways of the elses flittering in flowing around. So we can disentangle those and the final number we get here is we actually get into media spin value. So this is nice. It shows that our methodology doesn't always get was rapidly spinning black holes. We actually got an intermediate value here for the lattice been. Really time. So so that's the sort of two radio loud so I Radio Choir at A.G.N. where we did during the spin cycle radio quiet meaning they don't have those powerful jets members. Certainly the project by consummate before was also interesting of course in the light of what I was telling. Telling you about with the. Jet Jet dichotomy to look at jetted objects. So one of her really nice examples of a jet an object is three C one twenty. This is a very bright A.G.N. that's quite close by and and it's quite intensively studied and there's a there's a very interesting going phenomenology surrounding it. Surrounding the saucer. Involving the physics of what makes the jet. So in this source those some some worked on some seminal work done by Alan Marsh or and followed up by other members of his group showing the. As the source. Well let's start off with this plot. So this this this is this is the bilby I map. This is a very high resolution radio map of this object and what you're seeing here is the jet. And you are literally saying blobs in the jet. That are moving outwards with time you're See you're seeing distinct. Shock saw you know some kind of feature probably a shock in the jet that's marching out with time. And as you look over time you can actually track how a distinct blobs move outwards. Now interestingly if you just say you know what's that linear distance here and how quickly are those blobs moving outwards. Right. They're often moving out superluminal in the movie are three four five six times the speed of light and that's a sort of optical illusion effect is because you have this thing moving out towards you almost relativistic speeds or. It's moving out at relativistic speeds almost the speed of light and it's sort of chasing up after the light that it's sending out. So it's its apparent separation in the sky was apparent motion in the sky appears to be superluminal. So you. We have these blobs of the coming out now interest we can actually track when these blobs are generated in the core. So there's well defined events for these blobs are generated and then shot out along the jet. And we find that when those blobs are generated the core radio flux goes through big flares. That's what was going on here and at the same time the X. ray flux crashes. And the basic interpretation of this is what's been coined the jet cycle which is that. And this is purely a cartoon of what we think is going on. There's no physics here we have an accretion this around the object which is emitting X. rays. There in a regions where many X. rays and then some process some instability destroys the in a region of that this. Just removes it blows it off and therefore it stops emitting X. rays and either associated with that time or very shortly afterwards. There is an ejection of energy down the jet. So it could be at least two steps of the same thing where the some instability that triggers a wholesale injection down the jet and actually inject the mass of the inner accretion disk. And then the Christian disc refills. And you're back to the stage. So this explains why there's a flare in the radio. This explains why the the the the the jet strongly reenergizes at the same time the X. rays crash the X. was occurring from this. So in addition to looking a black hole spin effects we can actually use our techniques to probe this because we can actually probe where the inner edge of the disk is we don't have to assume most of the disco we can we can actually probe with our ears and so that's what we're doing with with with three C. warm on twenty. So this is this is the radio. So this is the X. ray like a three C one twenty for me. Our extremist that. Right. And I'll show you here is the time of a few observations. This is an ex a member of ration in two thousand and three. We actually David published. And this is a set of says UK observations from two thousand and six and then we had a campaign in two thousand and twelve. I'll show you in a second. And. Nature was beautifully kind to us. Turns out you go back after the fact that there were other ejection events as well. I just put it to relevant ones on here. There was an objection event very soon after the X. members of a sion. And it was an injection event very soon before as is our course of regimes. So this gives a beautiful laboratory to test these ideas are a sister just to me around. So if you do this and are specific cartoon figure out here but the numbers are put up are actually based on this multi component analysis that I described a few minutes ago we find that at the time the external savation you need a very. Broadened. Line profile you need an in a radius of two R G or so. It pushes you to a to a rapidly spinning black hole with a creationist It goes all the way down to go all the way down to the center so rapidly spinning black hole. This is awkward situation on the other hand this time could require quite a truncated disk with a disk is out of it you know twelve thirteen R G or so. So that's nicely kind of very fine those ideas I will show you. And then coming up to the moment campaign came this was us is our clubs of ation which was a much more much higher quality spectrum than the previous are who especially And we believe there was an injection event just before this is the build the new V.L.B.I. data and we believe there's an injection of interest before and. Again we get a truncated Krishna's we get Krishnas seem to be truncated at but forty got a patient radio. So this seems to be nicely supporting this place objects like a picture but then also you know from the point of view of the Earth spins study it tells of the spin of this object is his own is directly spinning. Now this is one example of how sometimes you need to look at multiple data sets to be able to tell us going on because if we just looked at this dataset alone and saw a diskless truncated quite far out we would not be of the same thing about spin. OK what's going on here. Well we don't really know but just to share one idea from a colleague of mine in Maryland. John McCain me he has things i'd this idea of so can manage to clear rested accretion mad and the idea is that the accretion disk. These are some. Relativistic M.H.D. simulations that Jonathan has been pursuing the ideas of the creation desk has basically force fed as much my net IT field on to the black hole as it can take. And we're getting a very strong jet out because of that. And what happens is that every so often there's there's an instability and basically the managing field. The pressure humanity field is now able to push its way back out into the creation desk where the magic pressure is now comparable to the gram pressure of the flow. So the minutes become pushes way back out into creation this that truncates essential part of the creation this and then either with disturbances associated with doing that or the the sort of re squeezing of the field back into the black hole is what could give you a disturbance that propagates down the damage or. OK So let me move on to the ash physical implications for you and finish off with without physical education of what's going on. And there we sort of put all of the current spin measurements that we have on the plot so let's say when when we started this exercise is really only one object we can do this we put another four to happens onto this one in this plot and then in the meantime rest the community has also been busy and we have now about twenty objects which we can with some degree and you can tell so many are about a large but with with varying degree of certainty we can put a black hole spins down. So this is the mass mass versus spin plot of the super massive black holes that we have right now and there's a few interesting things to note one is that there certainly are a large number of black holes that are rapidly spinning. And this is important because there is your whole whole discussion in the literature about whether we would ever expect any black holes rapidly spinning because the there are certainly some authors who would argue it quite strongly that all accretion on to suit my supply holes. Should be this incoherent accretion where you have small pockets of matter coming in. And so that seems to at least not be true for at least some black holes in this mass range of few million solar masses up to a few tens of millions of masses this into a rapidly spinning black holes which implies that there is actually coherent accretion going on now with with some degree of uncertainty I would say is still very preliminary. It looks like. As you go to more rapid to more massive black holes we may be seeing a new population coming there maybe a new population of less rapidly spinning black holes come in if you sort of stare is plot it's really all dominated by two points but you know that point. Which is. Yes that point and it's that point this point here is the fair online point that I was telling you about this. So. And the other big Kaviak on their switch the astronomers can certainly. Sympathise with me for is that the selection affects of the objects we go into this plot are almost impossible to quantify because these are objects of been studied because you know they happen to be nearby and bright but not in a systematic way we haven't looked at all the brightest objects yet only be interesting for some other reason it is very heterogeneous sample of objects and so whenever you're trying to make statements about populations in astrophysics. It's very dangerous to do that without very well formed samples but one thing that is guaranteed is these objects not selected on some previous bias for their spin should be because no one had any previous biases so so so these were not selected on previous by spin and so that gives you some some reason to think there may be something to the state in that as you go to more rapidly them to more massive black holes. We're starting to pick up some objects and more moderately spinning. Doesn't want to show you is coming back to this spinning like the economy plot. Well this this and this radio allow really quite dichotomy plot. So remember that in this plot. These are basically the one jetted objects and these are the jetted objects of radio loud. And the idea was of this talk branch and main correspond to rapidly spinning objects. So I put some of our measurements on here. The the red balls are the back of the spinning objects and the this is blue like the red balls although the red ball is a slow spinning object and the blue balls are the rapid has been the object. This is going for online. And we can see that this picture is falling apart already because that clearly seems to be no particular preference for slowly spinning black holes down on this lower branch. That's not to say that so. Then may not be the ultimate power source of these jets. Because hoops. This is the three she won twenty point if something doesn't tear up the spinning object. So it's not to say the spin may not be the ultimate power source but it's not the only thing that determines whether a source is jetted or macho attitude and those people who have studied X. ray binary in our galaxy have known this fact for a long time that jets can turn on and off. For other reasons. OK So let me come to my conclusions. So black hole span is an interesting quantity both infill both from a physicist point of view but also to nationalise a point to do as basically it's an important probe of black hole growth and also it's important source of energy. So there is an interesting quantity to try to pin down and there's a fairly well developed theoretical framework for trying to do this. I have told you about the so-called your I AM line or the relativistic reflection technique for probing spend those other groups out there for example the group the space the Harvard. Who've been looking at the temperature of the creation desk and for various technical reasons you centrally can't do this in the super massive black holes I've been telling you about. But you can actually develop test this technique quite nicely for the start of mass black holes and they have been pursuing that but ultimately all comes down to this idea of a transition at the Isco that is giving the observables a spin dependence. And so I told you about the observational status of black hole spins in the super massive black holes and I think the most interesting thing right now is maybe the hint that there is something there are rapidly spinning black holes out there and there may be a little bit there maybe some mass the painless that's been that's the kind of thing which we can try to push out as time goes on. So. I want to start to you know advertise that this field is not standing still. There's a great results coming down from the new star. Mission which is so new a new mission that was just launched and. Some was involved. I think I was involved in that and. Then there's also asteroids which is a new Japanese U.S. Observatory which will be a very capable spectrometer for everything goes well and will will sort of lift a lot of these things up to a new level. So at a point I'll stop there and take any questions. Thank you thank you for what was most likely you are you know that great. And then you or underestimate millions if not all. Maybe you are there any way you are a good good question. So that the first question about my answer personally Isco this is this may well be important for very strong magnetic fields that would probably need a sort of super Edington disk to confine and women this become super enter the big the Isco become ceases to sort of take on a special role anyway so for the geometrically film disks that are probably relevant in the accretion right injures that our sources inhabit. Then we don't believe many think fields will be that that important but for setting of the location of the escape. I mean this is the kind of stuff where he Jonathan simulations that he is pushing or more will sort of tell tell us whether that's true or not most important thing to do to assess. So your second question about about the correctness of G.R.. So if there are alternative models that push the Isco way out during pushing out so. You know beyond ten or twenty. I think we can we can squeeze those models that model and I'll turn it over to G.R. which sort of imprint first or second order changes on the nature of the orbits very close to the black hole. I think we're still not the days we're still not of the level of being able to. To to do that and in fact to actually push on those kind of ideas. We don't most certainly need to go to the time resolved work because the problem is that what I've been showing now these are time average spectra we've averaged over many many orbital periods of the in interest to actually form the spectra. And so in many ways. All we have is a. Sort of the redshift histogram if you like you know how much of the disk is or what particular redshift. And if you break free of G.R. That leaves a huge degeneracy Now you can imagine shuffling things in many different ways. So I think we'd have to go to a time resolved picture where for example you or you are following me into orbits of individual hotspots on the disk and tracing their spectra evolution to look at the relations between. When this. With Ray again. Yes So the sixty six K.B. line is sort of the trail for Essence line of iron. So you have an eye on ATOM it could be a neutral. I now turn and a hard X. ray from the Corona comes in and he jacks the in a shell electron Village X. the shell electron will integrate this or that as it does so that then equals two to and it was warmest in six point four K. but I am cold I'm never I know his time is it's higher. So my understanding of this is go over. You're making things up like it was all the way down. Is there any evidence that it's already or what would be in the situation that there's you're not actually. I guess results. Yes but if you are because if you were completely Ike Gnostic about whether the disk. Could you know cause the Esko maybe it could be like one of the half time his God then the spin measurements where getting should be treated as it was lower limits on this but. What you can do in principle which is actually what we did in practice with we see one twenty is look at a whole slew of data and. You have a model which allows for the in a radius to not be of use go but also of a spin and the model will essentially lock onto the period of time when the line is broadest. And will sort of step that to be the look that has the spin. But yes so if if the disk can. Truncate to one of the hard disk goes all summer and these are limits on the on line. Record of every night here at all about me my life after that after. It is like yeah that's it that's it that's a really good question. I spent a lot of time thinking about this one more like and I couldn't even really define the RAM pressure very convenient myself in the systems we are very close of the horizon. I think what actually happens here is that it's more over for Brady Taylor like instability than the really blowing off storage only into the into the RAM pressure as more so the fingers of minutes. It feels can kind of work their way out in a non axis metric like as much or why but you know twit also me if you get your road times. Will it be squared ro time C. squared minus put pussy in there and to be greater than the be squared over over the pithe and then it can you can do this it can force it has enough for pressure in principle to force as well. But there. It's I think they're still trying to understand how from the assimilation how that happens. Next.