So many of the members took welcome bad strictly tragic and say. They should thank you for that introduction it's quite an introduction to. Thank you for having me up so excited to join you in a talk about this interesting our topic of minutes to update you on the screen as related mentioned. Let's hope yeah it's Richard for State University graduate and I'm actually from time I see something a lot of fond memories growing up and to see and driving to Atlanta to come to Georgia State football games for what we consider was typically an easy win. But I also appreciated the fact that you guys would remind us of the bit that we are going to work for you one day right. Handed to you you think I do it for you I said I could see is wrong when he's a pro Georgia Tech I might. Have that the airlines also work for Chief Information Officer John Trainor who's actually in here is John back in I just I was actually the student body president Georgia Tech a long time ago. And I was going to search through a Human Resource Information sister to the system to find out who are Georgia Tech grads world and I asked John about them and this guy George people day. They told me about it someday you'll never maybe. Do a little bit of the Georgia Tech folklore and me I know a few stories so it really talked about and as you say the title of his presentation is failing chess solitaire Mark Webber and I was asked to talk to you guys really about. Important positive sustainable change can be achieved in a fairly large organisation and we've got quite a few would. The impulse of that it errands I'm going to an attempt to to weave this in I was told by do if I could interesting title that I would get more people here so I could title first and then we work backwards from there. OK So we as an organisation I might talk to you about some very specific instances in a company's history there's actually two dates I can add in a fine that the company had to prove it to make a positive sustainable change for the company and then also talk a little bit about myself and my career when I've had to put it made make some positive sustainable changes for me to be able to run to continue to do what I wanted to do first is talk about what we are what insurance is and is Ryan mentioned we are specialty we would tell it. In lease appliances electronics and furnishings we also I mean the fact that we have a manufacturing division called Woodhaven we produce I mean the factual of the furnishings that we sell in our stores as well as other retailers across the country now I think the questions about real business really isn't when I say we're specialty retailer and released. It's important for you to understand what we are because it's really the basis for our business model is unique and it's that we should be a client base that does not have access to traditional credit I can't walk into a Best Buy and purchase the necessities of life like a refrigerator or stove or television and some people think T.V. is a necessity of life but they can't break in and purchase those items on credit like a lot of Americans can so we provide them with the opportunity to acquire these things but we do it through trust and through ration ships we don't run credit checks we don't ask anything of them other than to sit down with our social it's and discuss their personal finances so we can. Make sure they can afford the things that they're asking for we ask them for three references and then we work with that customer to make sure that they're going to obtain the merchandise because we want them ultimately to own the merchandise so it's a unique business in that it's dealing with a segment of our population that a lot of people don't come into contact with but in reality it's actually half of America half of America doesn't have access to credit so that's a bit more graphic and that's who we're typically working with. We have twenty one occasions across the country seven hundred which are franchise we've got fourteen media factoring facilities the primary ones are in south Georgia and we've got eighteen distribution centers we have twelve thousand just over twelve thousand associates in the company we've been publicly traded since the mid eighty's. Revenue software corporate owned stores are just over two billion and we're about three billion system by if you include the franchise locations so great organizational base here in Atlanta. So this gets us to that Fed chair. And in one nine hundred fifty five we had a gentleman named Troy milk that fell with the company and he did it with that really fit and share and you would never thought that you could found a three billion dollar going to zation off of a failing ship but he did it he is a. Landmark he has a lot of their own fabric endeavors here in Atlanta but he is something that we're very proud of as an organization and because of all the things that he's done now how did he go about filling the company's interesting story he's a universe you know if you want to graduate he. Has made to actually own a restaurant here in Atlanta and after graduating from North Carolina he decided he didn't want to work in the restaurant so he got five hundred dollars and he parted with the body of his who also threw a five hundred dollars and they put it in the paper this it ends rinse anything and he got. From some individuals that said we were ready do you have a feeling cheers and he said Sure that feeling chips and a little what's the date of the rush that bats I'm feeling shares and that was the first little transaction that he had and that was really felt nation for the company and what it would become for many many years so the company was known as in the winds for a bit long time and it was what we call a traditional rent to it model I mean individuals rented for a specified period of time they had a rental contract I but they never attain ownership of the product so it was individuals that were finishing up payment for spent specific a time. Maybe they had a company that I just wanted to rent furniture for and we would fund the office and we were successful and they successfully business model I just went on through it the sixty's the seventy's and eighty's we continued to grow at a pretty steady rate and when it took nine hundred eighty six bit we really can identify the first moment of positive sustainable change in the company's history it was at this point that that traditional went to went model of the business started to decline and there was an individual I mean named Ken better who was a young regional manager here in Atlanta did approach Troy out of milk and said you know what I've got this idea that we could start a rent to own division and they could focus on a different customer demographic than what we've been focused on and I'm on a movie based on getting that individual that doesn't have access to credit the opportunity to obtain ownership of the product. Or to me to do that and they started to enhance rent to own division I don't actually went through. Archives to find some pictures I will do the same or it's a wrestling rink in front of the front of the grand opening. Wish we did it would be interesting but this is they just wrestling was really popular then but this is the vision Study Group through the eighty's and into the ninety's and it became enjoyment to purchase and then ultimately by the mid ninety's it was and sells only center ship and it wasn't really until ninety ninety four that this incessantly center ship model really started to click I started to grow substantially it was at that point that the company really if this was a want to have been productive it was something to combine and then suddenly starship started to do this and when my nine hundred ninety four was when they the two passed each other so you think back to that decision to create that division in one thousand nine hundred eighty six if they had done a crude I did which went division which no longer exists means that this company would no longer exist pretty significant impact by Ken Butler and Charlie did rather well to make that decision to pivot and change the business model you can see from our performance and this is our stock performance from since we went live in mid eighty's it was right around here in one thousand nine hundred four that the company really started to take off and that's when it started grow revenues grew up profitability grew and it was a result of that sells only so our ship model that they can bother truly just started. So this gets us to the first significant change in my career which was in two thousand and one I had been working on is run talk about I don't the law school you'll have to up forgive me for doing that but I did it really was wanted to be a lawyer and I was hired by several techs Corp to to be away with employment lawyer my dream job right out of the squad court for them and never thought they'd offer me a job but they did bake side had a big role. In. My office I was a big shot and about eight months into my employment they. Well made that hey we're us on the company of breaking it into pieces so that was my job I flew around the country and laid a bunch of folks off which was not fun and then I turned up the lights on the company was pretty sad pretty traumatic for me but that gave me an opportunity to move to Atlanta I came to Atlanta to work for a labor employment law firm that was opening an office here their best and from. That minute actually was traveling to Boston. Basically every week so a kid from Florida that's NOT use of the call that's been in there wonders and Boston was not fun so today's around I met the general counsel there's a guy named David wrote us and he talked to me about this company that he was general counsel of and the fact that he was very concerned because they did have a human resource function and he was constrained from both the compliance standpoint but also because he had store managers and operators calling all the time saying Help me out I need some advice on what I should do with this employee and we talked through it and I gave him some advice and he said you know what did you come in and talk to the milk I never have an H.R. department but maybe you could talk to me about coming on board so I'll do that and you know I knew the company and I do try lot of Macwas so I was pretty nervous when I went in there I never forget I went into his office and I sat down I catch a catch as office was set by Joe He didn't say anything and he said only looked at me and he said you know I don't like lawyers. And I sat there for about the last fifteen seconds of my life and the only response I could come up with was it. And. From that point on we talked about the value that I could bring to the organization even though he didn't believe in human resources because he was an entrepreneur or he believed that each store manager each operator was only human resource. Action they should be responsible for recruiting their own people and developing their own people making decisions when it comes to the people who didn't think that someone in the corporate office in Atlanta should be telling a story major in Milledgeville how to operate their store. So I came to work for a mine two thousand and one and when the first things I did I walked around and I said you know I understand his aversion to human resources but when I write could we develop some kind of H.R. function to really help the company and I was told of this legend and it was the religion of Solitaire is what I was told and John even if you know about the stork bed at some point in the ninety's one of choice friends convinced him that he should think about having a human resource function in the company and they talk about the fact that having high better people and helping develop better people say said that OK I'll take a chance when I'm by the way this is a legend I don't know what we have a fact checkers in here whether it's true or not but this is the legend I was told so you need someone to come in to start with an H. often she only saw one person do that and this is the ninety's and we had these new things called computers which were a major distraction toward working no not if you can understand that but it really was in the computers solitaire game was loaded and apparently the legend was Troy walked into that the new H.R. professional during the first week of appointments all playing solitaire and that was the end of a chore that if it interests at least for the next fifteen to twenty years or so that's a that's a solitary legend. So. To are really looking at when I came to work for the company around this point two thousand wanted only two thousand and two the dramatic growth that we experience after that point really had nothing to do with me it really was pure timing but it was a wonderful experience for me to be a part of that quote that we. Encountered during that time period we went from a few hundred stores to twenty one hundred stores in just over a decade few hundred million dollars in revenue to several billion dollars in revenue all operationally driven all about growth and all about cost control the resources were dedicated to corporate support functions because we were not a company and that's how we would grow the company. And this gets us to the next major pivot point in the company's history and that's two thousand and ten in two thousand and ten. I believe Trey was studying consider retirement at that point he only fifty nine percent of the shares of Aaron's at that time he decided to go ahead and divest his shares so he went from fifty nine percent ownership to five percent ownership his son his name was Robin lot of milk and was my boss he was the C.E.O. at the time when women could be a unique ability to see into the future and he was concerned about what with the company was headed because we had not invested resources into corporate support functions it's something that he talked about all the time and in particular he was very concerned about. Doing the right type of person for our business he knew that our business was predicated on the relationship of the customer and that it was something that we'd always focused on as a small company of something that we could enjoy when we were small but as we grew when we got to over two thousand locations you can't make sure your store managers are hiring the right type of people to ensure that relationship the customer is always going to be valued so they consumed about who I think concerned about how we're developing our associates how we run operations to do everything and he made the decision to create a human capital function and he said we're going to do this right we're going to build it from scratch with a make should it we're tracking the right type of people for business and. We're training them in that we're educating them and it we're taking off we had high turnover at the time it was becoming a distraction for the company. So this gets us to the next point my career where I had to make a decision Robin approached me and at that time I had been promoted to what we called vice president play relations in two thousand and six which really was just kind of the counseling and leave a function of a chore so I was still handling all the legal related employment matters was litigation or any other kind complaints issue and that was really the vast majority of my job and all and said we're going to create this function it's going to be a lot of fun but I don't want you to head it up which I was honored by but he said Betty to do something he had quit being a lawyer. And so that threw me off I was so excited about opportunity but I grew up my whole life went to be really are a good up to rise in my Uncle Gary and he was a labor to point lawyer and he actually was a law professor and he's going to do is be up again I've been perhaps and let me play that offer over ten years at that point and that's if you go to law school that's how you identify yourself what do you do I'm a lawyer so it's all you know and so for me to think about and consider giving that up was pretty traumatic. But he did think about it he said with think about this if you stay being a lawyer a good lawyer the best you'll ever become as a general counsel in a big company which was what I thought was pretty quick. But he said if you train zisha into the business side then you've got a lot more opportunities the opportunities are endless you've got you know business savvy and you've got. A passion for the positive side of our business being a lawyer is all about negative your cleaning stuff up all the time that's not really what you were doing. So I said you know what you're right. And I made the decision to give up practicing all when active and all the banners it was the best thing ever did but it was a big gamble I mean it was a really big gamble for me pretty shocking for my family my friends and almost school classmates that still can't believe I did it to this day but my point is if you wanted to replicate my career it would not be possible but it is all about seizing opportunities and that was a great opportunity for me to grab hold of and I want to talk about that Will bit more so this it's a two thousand and ten we went through a pretty significant period of change you know currently going through a period change from two as a lead in the two thousand thirteen when he decided to. Focus he had a real estate business he want to focus on real estate. Were tired came back to the chief operating officer retired after thirty nine years we convinced right now and have talked about before a problem Georgia Tech alumni. Member for fifteen years we convinced him to come on as our C.E.O. This is pretty exciting for us former C.E.O. of Delta Airlines understood how to run a business understood the need for building you know resources for support functions for operations and so it wasn't just human capital that we were interested in doing we wanted to make sure that we had an I.T. infrastructure that could support the stores we really hadn't dedicated any resources to over the years so we had a point of sale system that was really old that was struggling to keep up with their stores were going to make getting function they had been purely executional they just executed Web operations decided they needed to do in terms of marketing we didn't use it really any data about our customers to find out what customers wanted to hear when I came to marketing so we basically do marketing team a new head of marketing we've done the same thing with the legal Now rather compliance issues that we needed addressed we want to have a counted legal team I miss is what we've been doing over the last two and a half to three years. To change for a successful company. I want to talk about for the rest of us just about the change with human capital and building H.R. function in organization first is I want to talk about why we did it and kind of addressed that already we had compliance issues whether it was employee relations issues. Benefits we did have a compensation function do a lot of just fundamental compliance issues that we had to address with building H.R. I did next was told acquisition and really this is that the drive for me in my mind where we can really make a difference is we've got to make sure that we're hiring and attracting the right people we want to make sure that we once we attracted to those people and we don't bit we're able to develop them so we want to develop a running management system that's going to help train them a performance management system would they know what the expectations or and if they can be held accountable to those expectations and if they can also receive you know for instance a minute increase based on how well they performed these are things that we had to build literally built from scratch I mean culture it was very important to us as we built this function to keep in mind. The culture of the organization was built on this relationship the customer in this entrepreneur spirit when you get so big and you don't have someone focused on net you could easily lose that especially when you have high turnover have mentors but over the country so casual is something that we see a trade function in the organization being able to at least help drive with operations. The good for us in creating this function was to really make end's a great place to work we want to make end's great place to work so we would have happy to engaged associates there would be concentrated on developing meaningful relationships with our customers if we could do this we can make a significant impact on the business and that's what. I've been working on. So were the results were asked three years we've been working really horrid building a foundation it's not an easy thing to do to build an H.R. function for a company this big that's never had one there's been a lot of obstacles and we've been overcoming those obstacles over these years and that foundation that we've built I'm very proud to talk about because we've been able to achieve a lot of things that companies spend years and years and years working on we. Have tons of people we've developed a H off field team twenty four people on the field dedicated to helping our SO see it's in our managers with employee relations issues and recruiting we do tell that was a system which also includes a new plant a new employer brand and we're focused on how we attract the right type of candidate for unique business we've also implement performance management system where we literally went in touched every single employee all twelve thousand ploys and the whole company and explain to build with expectations not for their job and how they can be successful in that job and this is a when done within the last two and a half years. I guess a lot about metrics I wish I had more metrics but we didn't have any systems to provide us with the tricks we now do we've now built the systems so we're going to start being able to track metrics but one thing when women trip we do half that really is the key metric and a choice is what is your turn over them probably over the last two and a half years ago Trevor has been reduced by ten percent annually when you have twenty thousand employees and you have high turnover ten percent is a pretty significant number and this is just based on where we believe the new initiatives that we've you know been able to work around which also includes I forgot to talk about benefits we really focused on making sure that our benefits were comparative to the market we gave associates more vacation time which was a big hit. And we really focused on what other soft benefits we could provide employees to just make them feel good about work and it airs so we've got some good results we still want to do. Now I want to focus real quick on how you know how do we do this and this isn't something that you've been a funny text book this is really my thoughts on how you implement positive sustainable change in a large organization like this I. Could be wrong I could be wrong but this is what I believe you have to do for she got to have talented people to help you and I've got an amazing talented team the first thing we did was we went out and hired we started a director level we hired some leaders to come in from big successful organizations that knew a lot more about human resources than I did and they helped me do it but team that we have today and every single one of those individuals on this team. Hundred percent dedicated to building something special you come to work it ends in a choice function you're not going to be on cruise control we're building every single day since we walk in the door until we leave and sometimes at night and on the weekends we're building because we've got twelve thousand people four thousand families in drive as a livelihoods depending on the work that we do we've got to make sure that we're doing it right and we've got to make sure that we're we're building something this is stable so talent is number one it's the number one thing that we focused on and what you have told the people you can do a lot of special things leadership by and I know this would be impossible if our C.E.O. didn't believe that it was important and that we could achieve it but Rob a lot of milk and on believe in that and they've been unbelievable support function for us we're really excited to have leaders that really believe in what we're doing and it's not just those two but really leadership throughout the organization yet have transcended credibility. You know this is I think something that is you. Meet to someone who's been able to build lasting relationships with business partners I had worked it in for over ten years at this point it's been a rough time with our business partners we have divisional vice president spread out across the country those are really the individuals that are running the business and for us to tell him we're going to create an H. O. function in this company something they thought would never happen they had to believe and trust that we would do it the right way and that we wouldn't do something that would not help them or would not benefit them so we had to have a credibility and trust of the business partners and that's something I think is unique that you've got to be able to build it I don't think anyone could have come in to the company from the outside and it was kind of trust that we had with with our business partners so it's it was a unique experience for us. Culture to talk about this already you got to really evaluate the great things of your culture that you want to keep and know that there's parts of your culture that you don't want to keep. This is probably one of the most critical things that I have to do as a leader of this function I'm going to run it to people working for me and they come from a lot of different organizations they come from McDonald's a new Rubbermaid and all these great companies here in Atlanta they all have these different cultures that we're bringing in but it's up to me to make sure that we keep in mind what's made Aaron's great and what's made is great is entrepreneur spirit and focus on that relationship with the company with the customer and you've got to keep that in mind it every single change that we make every single tweak every single system every single communication that we have got to keep culture in mind and it's something that I can really consider has been part really the biggest little bit I've played in doing this timing to talk about the timing and to be you know in the fortunate situation where I came into the company during a great growth period. I was able to really work with the founder and chairman in an Archie popping off of a closely you don't get that opportunity many times in life and I say get to the point where we have grown so dramatically without dedicating these resources to support functions and then having it lead to realise it's what we needed I was totally timing but at the same time it was an opportunity and opportunities were presented to me and I took those opportunities and a lot of times I see people a bit of opportunities presented to him that they don't take and it's because it's hard work it's really really really hard work to do this kind of change to implement this kind of change it's not easy and if the opportunities presented to you I thought this is the one thing I would relate to you if you want to make a difference if you want to make a change you've got to seize that opportunity because you don't know when the next one's going to come a long. Commitment. I think that Reich we needed to show commitment to the chorus. Mediately said the last thing I wanted to do was tell the whole company that we were going to quit N.H.L. function and that it be several years before anyone really felt it so we immediately hired us and told the people to come work and we would need immediately without major initiatives that every employee in the company felt so within that first year everyone had felt the associate resources function of the company I think is really important because I wanted to build that momentum I wanted associates to feel like it wasn't just talk but we were actually going to do what we said we're going to do we're going to make errors a great place to work so we had to show that commitment early we had to show it often. Quick. I was talking to one of my colleagues last week actually and she's actually done something similar to launch company here in Atlanta and we talked about you know what was the biggest. Scariest thing that you had to do when you read about this change and we both said it's coach. We both agreed at the end of the day you have to be prepared to lose your job to implement positive sustainable change and you've got to be prepared to deal with consequences of doing that and you're going to meet resistance you're going to have pops of course placed in your way but if you really want to do it and if you know it's the right thing to do which I believe it is then you'd best be prepared to lose your job I mean it's just the way it is you've got to have that courage right there you have asked my job yet but but I think that's a really key component on how you can make an impact and how you can develop sustainable positive change in organization especially one this big step schizos the Mr Weber right however it does Mark Webber fit into this discussion. I like to think about companies I like to think about individual us dead have managed to change themselves in a sustainable way and I know as millennial So you guys all know Mark Webber as Mark Latham the great. Producer. You know. Right he fights I don't think he's great things but as a generic soup I know. This Marky Mark in the family bunch and the rest of the labor good as he never done it with this. OK Exactly so this is what I grew up with me and if you have told me twenty years ago when Ricky Martin the family bunch with it would become what he is today we would have to you but he is he constantly worked on making positive changes in his life to really develop his career and. Company there's so many companies have done the same thing you look at Apple Apple was making computers just like Compaq was thirty years ago Compaq doesn't even exist anymore you know Disney was you know making movies and now they they do everything. I like to think about it is a great example of someone who's made simple as a state it will change but we could also do it Arabs have made changes in their histories so was i get us to and that's really the destination I get asked this all the time you to ask this by the people that work for me I was going to get a whole going to build this I would ask if he wants a company you know what's the ultimate goal and where we go in. And I recently got asked a very interesting question by a consultant that does work on a project for us to kind of stump me for a second she asked me she said if any of us didn't exist. What is the one story that you could tell that really defines its legacy. And it took me a few minutes to think about but I tell you about this charity it's a community ed and it's a small charity that provides. A place for abused children to go and it provides a place for abused children and their brothers to go when they have no other place to go and we recently partnered with They'll miss part of our leadership development program to build bicycles for these children so we get it leaders together we go bicycles it's a great team building a bit my family went to the city. And I'm only going to. To visit it and see you know what it looks like and had been to before so they took me on a tour of the director took you know a tour she showed me a facility they had one if it functions in there I have cancer is live for the children and you know it's something it's pretty touching whenever he sees families coming in there because you know they don't have the will to go and this is their home until they can find some. You know to take them in. We would do to get in she said you know we've got actually have a long history with parents and I said you do it I didn't know that that we just saw a partner with you and she said no when we founded the company many many years ago before you started working there. So I founded a charity we have a lot of money but we do what we want to do we want to provide a safe place for families to go and for abused children to go so we went to Aaron's we went to the local M. store to help us with furnishings and we went in and we said we you know we really we want to start we really hope that you can you know give us a discount on on some furnishings a strong leader said Yeah we'll give you a discount to go in and pick out what you want I mean pick out you know what you can afford and anything else that you think you might want and we can talk about it so they were around it and picked out the furnishings that they thought they could fit in and they picked up a furnishings that they would love to have at the next day the trip is up and they unload everything functions that they want to pass the what the things that they really wish that it could have and it is such as you know noticed that she went to the manager said We didn't talk about price I'm not sure we can afford this in a store manager said don't worry about it's on else this is considered a charitable donation. And she got very upset with that pretty upset thinking about that store manager because we knew it ends we do that at store manager had the power to do that he didn't have to call the bucket and have called a corporate office and ask whether or not he had a permission to do that he was allowed to do that and that's part of the entrepreneurial spirit part of being in the community and being part of the community did that we serve so it's really two things it's two parts of our legacy that I think we've got to make sure that we keep in mind when we're making a change you know we want to keep the Great in the Great is you know. We will. Resent the opportunities that entrepreneurship brings We represent doctors on entrepreneurship wings for R. Soucy it's for the customer but also for communities and the second thing is well the business model that's serving a community and a customer base that other businesses don't let alone would they base their entire business model on it and we're only basing on to business sponsoring this this customer but also basing it on trust when asking for credit when asking them to do anything more than make a commitment to pay for the product over a period of time and so when I think about it you see when I think about what we need to keep That's it and that's what all good is going to be as we develop not only this human capital function but all the other changes that we're making going forward and I'm Bay excited about a future I'm excited about what we're doing and all the telling people that we have work force so I would be in big big trouble with recruitment team if I didn't show a talented group of Georgia Tech students at least one recruitment video some want to show you maybe it's a minute more I promise you it's something that we just put out this year but you're going to see how it incorporates that theme of relationships into the type of individuals that were recruiting we went through a pretty extensive process we asked for employees were it why do you work here. As I work it because it was a job and you pay well instead they told us the reason I work here is because I like the relationship with the customer I'm from this community I know customers going through and I appreciate the service that we're providing and it's right the customer comes in every month and I have that relationship with them and that's why I work here so you'll see that the as we go through this but maybe then woken up for questions on a self right. Now the volume. All right. Thank you thank you Sam member travel we've got sixteen minutes for questions which has a lot more time so I just wrap it up for questions now. I want her. I. Want you to share this I mean a little bit. But you mentioned a lot about charting the right type of employment and considering and specialty and your client base what would you say is the right type of employment. The question so it depends on the type of job we want to help. Right and as you say if I'm from that video that's really focused on story operations or working in a store typically the individuals that we want working in a store or individuals that live in the community that they're serving and it's individual is that are happy that's very important it's individuals a bit are engaging because again they're doing with customers it's not like retail where you welcome to Best Buy you buy something and they never see again this is literally a relationship where they're coming in every month to make a payment and you're also working with the individual customer to make sure that they can afford the products so you know it's a happy engaged individual someone that understands what that relationship is the corporate office who are looking for right now and I think I touched on this a little bit it's someone do it wants to build something because that's really what we're doing right now it's someone that is engaged in creating something special someone that understands. Big picture not only what we're doing as an organization but what particular function whether you're working in I.T. or marketing it's a lot of hard work but it's someone that I think has to be fully engaged in doing meaningful work and that with when I sit down to talk to someone that's what I'm looking for does this person really want to do meaningful work or are they just want a job. That no question yeah I know you have any time to ride and I'm. Not in each I function and all the components that go into that. Piece of advice if there's someone who's really passionate about going to facial teams in life to going to Human Resources. My best piece of advice. Would be we work it in a chair function that is strategic and not mistreated and I see this a lot. A lot of H.R. functions and unfortunately no matter what it's the culture or the leadership of both the H. O. function would be you'd have sales is just administrator so either you're processing payroll making sure new hire paperwork filled out they're not engaged in things like what is a play about you proposition for candidates how do we convince people to come work for us how do we make sure that we're developing a performance management system that's going to help drive the business that's very strategic and so if you want to be part of that you need to ask a lot of questions about what do you do every day and what's the long term strategy what we're working on our strategy all the time right now we're working on a five year long term strategy on it where do we want to be and how we're going to get there so if you asked us that question we'd be able to tell you how you do it would tell pretty quickly that that would we consider ourselves a strategic business partner not just said Mr. Good question. Here. Just. I'm. But you did a Silicon Investor we put that question many times and that's the unique point of our business and what's made us successful it very much is a transaction based on we're asking you for three references we're going to call. Three references and talk to them make sure that they're legitimate I want to talk to you about your finances make sure you can afford it and then from there you're signing a lease agreement and you understand as a customer if you can't make the payments we're going to work with you if you miss a month we're going to work with you we're going to come out pick up the march and I says it is you miss a payment but we also ask from you a commitment and that's a discussion that our general manager has with every single customer so it's the value of that general manager in the store is really what drives that that piece of the business and why it's so surprising for individuals to think you're going in a credit check what's to keep everyone from just leave it and we certainly have write offs I don't know what the rough percentage is but it's fairly low you know. I think about half of our customers end up getting the merchandise long term so they end up pushes it purchasing at long term and and we're really happy about that I mean that's that's our whole goal is to get the customer to ownership there's all the right to only retailers out there that that's not their business model they want to maximize the value of that product they want to get you get it back in place and other people that's not what we do we want to make sure the customer gets ownership I know it's OK It's a crazy concept it really is and that's what makes our our story I think so unique. Good luck story is the question we're going to have a question and so I think if you're speaking about my question regarding something you mentioned about how do you respond to the employees are guiding the country changing. Function and if so would that look like for someone like you. In terms of what you have to employ and what did that process look like. For you said you said to each individual employee and it was that my if you like an automated message really reaching out to the person. So that that talented team of H.R. professionals I said we had. Good. In March that they were going to travel to every single store in the company and they were going to sit down with every single employee and they were going to what we were doing was rolling up performance management system. I was expecting to wake up the door when we said that but they didn't they said bring it on let's do it and so we literally had a chart team going to every single store I mean we traveled from really march through August and we rode it out and win it for me you know I have communicated I'll tell you Communication is a challenge for us because we have always locations across the country and we have and this is a challenge for retailers we've got individuals in these locations that you don't have a direct way to communicate with and they don't have email so we don't issue email to store so it's typically So we're a lot on our general managers we rely a lot on our company internet so every time they log into the computer they see a message but a lot of it was just face face to face interaction I do a lot of interaction with our store managers we have a national mentors me several thousand people there I typically talk to all of our store managers about these concepts and what we're doing we read about them play a boy in to those managers face to face so it's. It's a challenge it's a lie work. But it's fun at the same time because you could meet all your people. Yeah yeah Chad you said that now when you talk about the. Critical ingredients it's kind of age you would say to date you need to be prepared to lose your job what have you actually ever been confronted with Dad is it. Has meant that that's on necessary. Have I ever been confronted with that this is being webcast live. I mean I've been. Appeared Yes I've been prepared to lose my job to do what's right to implement a change I have certainly encountered significant obstacles along the way that made me feel like I had to take that stand and it was the right thing to do and luckily I had leadership at the very top that would support me it's mainly but it's. Something that in your mind you think if I want this initiative if I do something that we're not used to how is the company going to react to it if it doesn't work what if it actually becomes a distraction and affects store operations and and our performance goes down. That's something that weighs on your mind all the time when you're making these really significant decisions like rolling out a performance management system or a new talent acquisition system but if you do it's right then you just got to do it you just got to go with it and I certainly been presented with that that decision many many times. I think I was wanting to talk a little bit about the most significant challenge that you rabbiting to function in two thousand and ten and I want to move be a few of the steps that you took to overcome that challenge. Sure. Though the most significant challenge was the culture challenge again this was an organization that literally one of the mantras was we would never have an H.R. department. I mean it was like you know when there was a cheer going on it was like. An illiterate H.R. department. It was thinking about how do we change the perception of what an H.R. function could do. In their mind a lot of operators in the business partners say Human Resources is that it ministry. To function or that police function it's going to keep us from doing things that we need to do good to get our business accomplished. So we were came that run the discussions a lot of education of trust a lot of let me explain to work with your most significant challenge right now business operator and they would say I think the best people. And we'd say when you have time to recruit that's a watchdog after all my stores and I say well that's what we could do for you you tell us who you want and who you think would be successful and we'll go up and find them for you that way you can focus on your customers and you can focus on operating your stores. Of international law discussion and it was it was a process I mean it really was a process to go through that. Well I should have to question that. Reputational issues. The first. Sexual harassment finding against the resolution which you were quoted as saying it was a right to which I mean this Democrats might have gotten. Into some resource as a protection. That's a first OK. A minus and in terms of the coaching staff I mean I have to. Have described. More about. Fights power case and you know how do. You know what. Doesn't extend to have the impression. And someone should understand QUESTION So the first one it's everyone knows we had. A sexual harassment case. Where we had a significant verdict against us it was actually ninety five million dollars in St Louis and I to cut the. Company it's really really the case that the verdict was overturned by the judge and then the company also settled the case around six million dollars The timing on that because I get asked that a lot we actually had started developing H.R. function before that case went to trial and whether or not it was for the catalyst for what we needed to do it probably was and we knew we kind of well we only had developed kind of a game plan to where we wanted to be in and how we want to develop the function and in the case happened so it helps to categorize you know what we wanted to do as an organization but the second piece. There's pending litigation we're going that F.T.C. case and my general counsel would absolutely kill me if I commented on it I would make it's come on I would love to discuss that with you and and hopefully one day I'll be able to but maybe you could maybe get me Yes exactly and we back end up talking about that just to talk about two unfortunately we actually talked about this you know we've been asked a lot about that recently and a lot of companies are facing the same challenges with privacy and security that's something that we have dedicated a lot of resources to making sure that one compliance and it's something that we're working really hard on but I can't comment on the case right now OK. Final question actually three plus years and. It has to show from that. Road Rick is going to change his mind regarding the Importance of people who are. I mean talk to talk to. Me We're talking. Now but I think he he was a hero he had before he tired I mean we're going to talk about the importance of it it was there he was still our chairman no whatever we made the decision to do it so he understood the company's change the company's grown really big company and just like to the things it was just asking about there's things that that a truck would help us avoid and help us make sure that we're going to be sustainable in the future so I think Charlie agreed with that because one final question. To. Say he would have a game on my computer if he gave her my computer. Group is very good last thing I would do is because played solitaire. OK Thank you.